Is the Islamic State a threat for Pakistan?

[dzor]

3 Major significant terrorist attacks last week, including the butchering of 120 innocent women, children, just how dangerous are they and significant are they? Obviously there a big group but now there presence is really spreading outside of Syria and Iraq, not long ago the Taliban of Pakistan annouced an alliance with ISIS, whereas the Afghan Taliban didn't, so my question is how significant is the Islamic State influence in Pakistan and is/will it grow?

this shows us the map of where ISIS has either allies or terror attacks plan, that's a large chunk of the world, which is quite scary for a terror group which emerged as a small splinter from Al Qaeda

 

[Bullet Drive]

Need to wipe them out immediately iA.

 

[DW44]

Yes, it is. IS attacks in most places tend to be carried out by their followers among the general public and we have plenty of those here.

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[Cpt. Rishwat]

The news reports over here have been placing ISIS in Afghanistan recently. Supposedly they are challenging Taliban control of Eastern Afghanistan.

http://rt.com/news/270502-afghanistan-isis-taliban-terrorism/

 

[Deosai]

Different name, same people.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

ISIS conquers Afghanistan.

Then Pakistan.

Then India.

Then China.

Then Russia.

Then Japan.

Simultaneously conquering whole of Africa meanwhile.

Then it launches an attack on the West and conquers them.

Then peace will prevail.

 

[MSaad1237]

ISIS conquers Afghanistan.

Then Pakistan.

Then India.

Then China.

Then Russia.

Then Japan.

Simultaneously conquering whole of Africa meanwhile.

Then it launches an attack on the West and conquers them.

Then peace will prevail.

Damn...!!

 

[Abdullah]

The news reports over here have been placing ISIS in Afghanistan recently. Supposedly they are challenging Taliban control of Eastern Afghanistan.

http://rt.com/news/270502-afghanistan-isis-taliban-terrorism/

Some interesting comments on that link!

 

[Saeed]

Is modi going to provide them with money and guns? If not then threat level is same, just under a different name.

 

[nish_mate]

Is modi going to provide them with money and guns? If not then threat level is same, just under a different name.

Err aint Modi accused of being a Muslim hate & killer- why would he arm & fund Muslim bearded fundoos?

Point being whats it got to with Modi, unless Pakistanis just secretly love him

 

[Saeed]

Err aint Modi accused of being a Muslim hate & killer- why would he arm & fund Muslim bearded fundoos?

Point being whats it got to with Modi, unless Pakistanis just secretly love him

Because ISIS kills a lot of Muslims just like he did. He reminds me of Abu Bakr Albagdadi.

 

[nish_mate]

Because ISIS kills a lot of Muslims just like he did. He reminds me of Abu Bakr Albagdadi.

By that definition whole of Pakistan is the character you have quoted??

On a side note- if some one from minority burns a bogey full of Muslims in Pakistan- will there be no riots?

 

[Saeed]

By that definition whole of Pakistan is the character you have quoted??

Pakistan doesn't kill people for being Muslims, Modi and ISIS does.

 

[nish_mate]

Pakistan doesn't kill people for being Muslims, Modi and ISIS does.

So Shias and Sunnis live in brotherly peace- I thought they were all Muslims??

Cute you sidestepped the second question...

 

[Saeed]

So Shias and Sunnis live in brotherly peace- I thought they were all Muslims??

Still the same thing, terrorists like ISIS and modi spreading violence.

 

[nish_mate]

Still the same thing, terrorists like ISIS and modi spreading violence.

So whats the bigger threat, a Modi or Pakistanis killing each other even being Muslims??

 

[nish_mate]

And why is the Pakistani govt not doing anything about all these Shias and Sunnis killing each other for so many years.

Same incompetency/complacency or terrorist sponsorship as Modi....

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Why is Modi in discussion here? Why is he a threat to Pak?

Have the Saudi Mullahs declared a fatwa on ISIS yet?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Err aint Modi accused of being a Muslim hate & killer- why would he arm & fund Muslim bearded fundoos?

Point being whats it got to with Modi, unless Pakistanis just secretly love him

Well I make no secret of the fact I love him. Whenever I think Pakistan is a basket case nation, it always gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling that parosees voted an even bigger basket case for PM.

 

[nish_mate]

Well I make no secret of the fact I love him. Whenever I think Pakistan is a basket case nation, it always gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling that parosees voted an even bigger basket case for PM.

Well we are the original "bigger hearts" that our padosees love so much about themselves

 

[Bashira_taeli]

3 Major significant terrorist attacks last week, including the butchering of 120 innocent women, children, just how dangerous are they and significant are they? Obviously there a big group but now there presence is really spreading outside of Syria and Iraq, not long ago the Taliban of Pakistan annouced an alliance with ISIS, whereas the Afghan Taliban didn't, so my question is how significant is the Islamic State influence in Pakistan and is/will it grow?

this shows us the map of where ISIS has either allies or terror attacks plan, that's a large chunk of the world, which is quite scary for a terror group which emerged as a small splinter from Al Qaeda

So the whole of Pakistan is an ISIS territory.
OP where did you get this bs graphic from?

 

[Saeed]

So the whole of Pakistan is an ISIS territory.
OP where did you get this bs graphic from?

I think he got it from Dailymail. Pakistan is light red, dark red represents ISIS territory. Still the map is BS, isil only controls like portion of Iraq and half of Syria.

 

[Saeed]

Well we are the original "bigger hearts" that our padosees love so much about themselves

You guys have deformed hearts in that case, should check up with your doctor. Normal people have normal size.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Turkey is on the brink of becoming an Al Qaeda stronghold according to that map. No more cheap holiday packages with full English breakfasts for the Brits.

 

[nish_mate]

You guys have deformed hearts in that case, should check up with your doctor. Normal people have normal size.

yupp we can see the love for the ummah in the "normal" hearts Saeed bhai....

 

[Bashira_taeli]

I think he got it from Dailymail. Pakistan is light red, dark red represents ISIS territory. Still the map is BS, isil only controls like portion of Iraq and half of Syria.

I saw a similar graphic on NYT. And believe it or not, according to it ISIS has provinces in Pakistan.



http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t/map-isis-attacks-around-the-world.html?_r=0

 

[Saeed]

I saw a similar graphic on NYT. And believe it or not, according to it ISIS has provinces in Pakistan.

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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t/map-isis-attacks-around-the-world.html?_r=0

Lol. At least this map didn't have Iran highlighted.

 

[Syed1]

So all of Pakistan is an ISIS territory now.. when 90% of the population has probably not even heard of ISIS..


Damn these terrorists are stealthy now

 

[Lurker_Ind]

So all of Pakistan is an ISIS territory now.. when 90% of the population has probably not even heard of ISIS..


Damn these terrorists are stealthy now

Pak is marked in light red. Which means ISIS have formed alliances with locals.

 

[Syed1]

Pak is marked in light red. Which means ISIS have formed alliances with locals.

Funny they never televised the signing of the alliance documents.. afterall Taliban TV is the most watched channel in Pakistan.


We all have a blast watching hit shows like "Real Housewives of Waziristan"

 

[leg-side-flick]

Funny they never televised the signing of the alliance documents.. afterall Taliban TV is the most watched channel in Pakistan.


We all have a blast watching hit shows like "Real Housewives of Waziristan"

Your signature is great

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Apparently some targeted killings in Karachi recently have been carried out by ISIS affiliates

They pose a threat if they weren't already fighting a battle on so many different fronts
They best idea would bet for them to battle the ttp to establish who was jihadi top dog, that way they would be embroiled in killing each for years and forget all about Islamabad

 

[Saeed]

Apparently some targeted killings in Karachi recently have been carried out by ISIS affiliates

They pose a threat if they weren't already fighting a battle on so many different fronts
They best idea would bet for them to battle the ttp to establish who was jihadi top dog, that way they would be embroiled in killing each for years and forget all about Islamabad

So Pakistan should just leave these groups alone and let them kill more innocents because they for sure will not fight each other? Pakistan should put their enablers behind the bars and improve its HDI. Pakistan should also monitor religious schools, find out what they are teaching and where their funding is coming from.

 

[IAJ]

Taliban in Afghanistan will take care of Daesh. Two super powers have struggled in Afghanistan and I hope Afgan Taliban destroys these animals.
A famous scholar from Baghdad was in Norway a couple of months ago and he was questioned about IS. He replied they had nothing to with Islam and they are from Shayateen (satans). These were quite strong words.

I also heard people say: If they are the truthful muslims they claim to be, why dont they go and liberate Palestine and fight against Isreal instead of killing other muslims? Either they know Israel will eliminate them in no time or they are on Isreal's side to create the so called "greater Israel".

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

ISIS is definitely a threat but i dont think they can inflict the sane level of damage they have done to other countries to Pakistan. The army thankfully is not sitting ducks. However, they must have a lot of local sympathizers. That i am sure off.

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

I hope they clash with Talibs tho. It will be fun seeing two animals ending each other.

 

[Kean0]

Pakistan and its people are a threat to Pakistan. Never mind IS.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

So Pakistan should just leave these groups alone and let them kill more innocents because they for sure will not fight each other? Pakistan should put their enablers behind the bars and improve its HDI. Pakistan should also monitor religious schools, find out what they are teaching and where their funding is coming from.

Pakistan is closely monitoring it's NGOs which is a good sign

The problem is whether Pakistan uses the good Taliban to wipe out ISIS or not

 

[the Great Khan]

Mangal Bagh and his band of merry idiots have joined ISIS to fight the afghan Taliban in Afghanistan. Knowing where Mangal and his crew were getting their khuffia support raises questions about this ISIS affiliated faction in Afghanistan. Essentially its the TTP under a different name.

 

[the Great Khan]

ISIS are the TTP..the same bunch we've been fighting for the last decade and are currently wiping out in zarb-e-azb..the result will be the same against these proxies!!

 

[RWAC]

Depends what the parameters are.

Is ISIS likely to over run and control some areas of Pakistan? - No.

Is there a possibility for groups motivated by or supporting ISIS within Pakistan to carry out attacks in Pakistan? - Likely.

 

[GenericBrand]

Wow that map makes it seem like ISIS is the Ottoman Empire incarnate of the 21st century

 

[MenInG]

In a statement to the UN Security Council in New York, Ambassador Mohamed Abushahab, Deputy Permanent Representative and Chargé d’Affaires, urged all United Nations organisations to stop using the term "Islamic State" when referring to the group. He said they must not allow them and other groups to hijack a religion of tolerance and give credence to their pretences - there is nothing Islamic about terrorism.

In charting the group's expansion across Iraq, Syria and through areas of Africa that until recently had been largely spared from attacks, UN counter-terrorism chief Vladimir Voronkov attributed their success in part to a decentralised structure focused around a “general directorate of provinces” and associated "offices".

These operate in both Iraq and Syria, as well as outside the core conflict zone – notably in Afghanistan, Somalia and the Lake Chad Basin.

Providing an overview of vulnerabilities around the world, Mr. Voronkov said that the border between Iraq and Syria remains highly vulnerable, with an estimated 10,000 fighters operating in the area.

In April, the group launched a global campaign to avenge senior leaders killed in counter-terrorism operations.

While the number of attacks claimed or attributed to local affiliates has decreased in Afghanistan, since the Taliban assumed control last year, its presence has expanded into the north-east and east of the country.

https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/nati...sedgntp&cvid=42584caf16ad4a469f97f27b6cccf192

 

[ex-q-zit]

Terror Group ISIS Says Its Leader Killed In Battle, Names New Chief

Beirut, Lebanon:

The Islamic State jihadist group said Wednesday that its leader Abu Hasan al-Hashimi al-Qurashi has been killed in battle and announced a replacement.

A spokesman for the group said Hashimi, an Iraqi, was killed "in combat with enemies of God", without elaborating on the date of his death or the circumstances.

Speaking in an audio message, the spokesman identified the group's new leader as Abu al-Hussein al-Husseini al-Qurashi.

Qurashi refers to a tribe of the Prophet Mohammed, from whom IS leaders must claim descent.

The spokesman did not provide details on the new leader, but said he was a "veteran" jihadist and called on all groups loyal to IS to pledge their allegiance.

After a meteoric rise in Iraq and Syria in 2014 that saw it conquer vast swathes of territory, IS saw its self-proclaimed "caliphate" collapse under a wave of offensives.

It was defeated in Iraq in 2017 and in Syria two years later, but sleeper cells of the Sunni Muslim extremist group still carry out attacks in both countries.

IS's previous leader, Abu Ibrahim al-Qurashi, was killed in February this year in a US raid in Idlib province in northern Syria.

His predecessor Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed, also in Idlib, in October 2019.

Hassan Hassan, who authored a book on IS, said one "unprecedented" but possible scenario was that the Hashimi "was killed 'accidentally' during a raid or fighting without him being known to whoever killed him".

In October this year, US forces killed a "senior" IS member in a pre-dawn raid in northeastern Syria, the US military's Central Command said at the time.

It said a later air strike had killed two other senior IS members.

The US leads a military coalition battling IS in Syria.

In July, the Pentagon said it had killed Syria's top IS jihadist in a drone strike in the north of the country.

US Central Command said he had been "one of the top five" IS leaders.

Turkey in September said security forces had arrested a "senior executive" of IS known as Abu Zeyd, whose real name was Bashar Khattab Ghazal al-Sumaidai.

Turkish media said there were some indications Sumaidai might have been the IS leader.

NDTV

 

[MenInG]

While it no longer controls vast swathes of Iraq and Syria, Islamic State remains a threat and will seek to spring 10,000 of its fighters from Syrian prisons in 2023, experts say.

The infamous terror group is much diminished from its peak in 2014 but it remains a menace in a volatile part of the Middle East, as well as abroad in Afghanistan and parts of Africa.

https://news.sky.com/story/islamic-...0-of-its-jailed-fighters-experts-say-12768069

 

[MenInG]

The United States carried out a military operation that killed a senior Islamic State leader in Syria on Monday, US Central Command (CENTCOM) said on Tuesday, the latest blow to a group that once struck fear across the Middle East.