Is there any Pakistani batsman that can handle swing or seam? If not, what are we doing about it?

[adil79]

Hi,

Is there any pakistani batsman from this playing 11 that can handle swing and seam? If not, What are we doing about it?

Is there any coaching on technique?
Which coach is doing that? Younis Khan? Is he coaching them only for spin? Or swing & seam both, because he was unsuccessful against swing & seam and I really dont think how can he teach our players these things when he was failure himself.

Misbah Ul Haq? Is he an expert on swing & seam batting? Has he prepared our lads for this series?

I mean, we were going to play this flagship series. Who was going to improve the only thing we ever struggled in England? Swing & seam movement? if we couldn't improve technique, then what's the point of having a coach?

 

[KingKhan12]

Personally Mohammed Yousuf is the perfect person to be batting coach. But Misbahs ego won't allow that.
Yousuf has scored runs in difficult conditions like these and was probably our most technically correct batsmen we have produced. He only got better under good coaching and guidance. Knew how to pace a ODI innings aswell unlike Younis Khan.
Would prefer Younis as a head coach then a batting coach.

 

[adil79]

Personally Mohammed Yousuf is the perfect person to be batting coach. But Misbahs ego won't allow that.
Yousuf has scored runs in difficult conditions like these and was probably our most technically correct batsmen we have produced. He only got better under good coaching and guidance. Knew how to pace a ODI innings aswell unlike Younis Khan.

Yousaf also struggled with in dipper. I remember him getting out countless times to Irfan Pathan and other left armers lbw. We may need a foreign coach with experience so that our players can improve technique. Grant Flower wasn't a good pick for batting. Need someone with solid technique himself. Some english lad or Australian lad.

 

[adil79]

Ideally, I would love Jonathon Trott to coach our lads. He was a wall against Amir & Asif in the famous tour of 2009-10

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Pakistan team handled swing and seam very well just last week. Particularly Rizwan, Babar were super efficient.

 

[adil79]

Pakistan team handled swing and seam very well just last week. Particularly Rizwan, Babar were super efficient.

Really? Then why are they struggling now?

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Really? Then why are they struggling now?

Scoreboard pressure and more than technique, it’s the mindset at fault

 

[adil79]

Scoreboard pressure and more than technique, it’s the mindset at fault

That doesnt make sense. They are getting out due to lack of proper technique and you made it about scoreboard pressure. It's not ODI cricket when you have to score in limited overs. They have all the time in world to get set and score. They couldn't handle swing. All these who got out.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

That doesnt make sense. They are getting out due to lack of proper technique and you made it about scoreboard pressure. It's not ODI cricket when you have to score in limited overs. They have all the time in world to get set and score. They couldn't handle swing. All these who got out.

Are you to test cricket? I’ve been following the game for quite a while now and the scoreboard pressure is more grueling than what you see in odis

 

[adil79]

Are you to test cricket? I’ve been following the game for quite a while now and the scoreboard pressure is more grueling than what you see in odis

If you have good technique, score will come. Otherwise you will get out. As simple as that.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

That doesnt make sense. They are getting out due to lack of proper technique and you made it about scoreboard pressure. It's not ODI cricket when you have to score in limited overs. They have all the time in world to get set and score. They couldn't handle swing. All these who got out.

He is right. It is scoreboard pressure. It arguably has an even bigger impact than in ODIs

 

[shamaan]

Everyone countries struggles at something or another

 

[ataullah]

Hi,

Is there any pakistani batsman from this playing 11 that can handle swing and seam? If not, What are we doing about it?

Is there any coaching on technique?
Which coach is doing that? Younis Khan? Is he coaching them only for spin? Or swing & seam both, because he was unsuccessful against swing & seam and I really dont think how can he teach our players these things when he was failure himself.

Misbah Ul Haq? Is he an expert on swing & seam batting? Has he prepared our lads for this series?

I mean, we were going to play this flagship series. Who was going to improve the only thing we ever struggled in England? Swing & seam movement? if we couldn't improve technique, then what's the point of having a coach?

No one is master at swing and seam as u always get a delivery with your name on it. You do get players who have great techniques against it like Babar and yousaf. Best bet is an english coach like Michael Vaughan. It amazes me how much knowledge white people have like when they analyse for sky sports (third man). I think Asian teams and windies have less knowledge on techniques when it comes to batting. This i think from listening commentary. Wasim Akram and Ramiz etc havd never mentioned technical analysis like these skysports boys.
Anyone agree?

 

[Chokli]

Even our greats couldn't handle swing and seam that much.

Nothing's going to be done.

We will never be a top 3 consistent team.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Zaheer Abbas?