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Is Turkey heading for an economic and financial crisis?

Recent developments in the country's financial markets have certainly been alarming.

The Turkish currency, the lira, has lost about 30% of its value against the US dollar since the New Year.

The stock market has fallen 17%, or if you measure it in dollars as some foreign investors would do, the decline is 40%

Another measure often watched in the markets is government borrowing costs.

Borrowing for 10 years in its own currency now costs 18% a year. Even borrowing in dollars is expensive for Turkey at a cost of around 7%.

So what is going on?

Debt dangers
Turkey has a deficit in its international trade. It imports more than it exports. Or to put it another way, it spends more than it earns. That deficit has to be financed, either by foreign investment or by borrowing.

In itself that is neither unusual nor dangerous. But Turkey's deficit is quite large at 5.5% of national income, or GDP, last year.

There are two features of Turkey's foreign debt that also increase its vulnerability.

First, it has a high level of debt due for repayment in the near future - loans that have to be repaid and the money borrowed anew. To use the language of the financial markets, the debt has to be refinanced. Credit rating agency Fitch estimates that Turkey's total financing needs this year will be almost $230bn.

Second, many Turkish companies have borrowed in foreign currency. Those loans become more expensive to repay if the value of the national currency declines - which it has.

The currency weakness also aggravates Turkey's persistent inflation problem. The weaker lira makes imports more expensive.

Turkey's lira has plunged in value this year
The central bank has an inflation target of 5%. A year ago, inflation was well above that, at about 10%. Since then the situation has deteriorated further with prices now rising at an annual rate of about 15%.

Financial market investors are also very uneasy about President Erdogan's views on economic policy and the pressure he is seen as exerting on the country's central bank.

There is an obvious policy option open to a central bank that wants to bear down on inflation - raising interest rates.

That can curb inflation in two ways. It can weaken demand at home, and by increasing financial returns in Turkey encourage investors to buy lira - which strengthens the currency and reduces the cost of imports.

Turkey's central bank has taken several such moves, but without any lasting impact on the problem.

US relations
What bothers the markets is the president's well known - and most economists would say, ill-informed - opposition to higher rates. He has described himself as the enemy of interest rates.

The result is that investors are not convinced that the central bank will do what is needed to stabilise the currency and bring inflation under control. In turn, that makes them more wary about the outlook for Turkish financial assets.

Confidence has been further undermined by Turkey's strained relations with the United States.

Turkey has detained an American evangelical pastor and there are differences over the approach to Syria. In addition, the US is reviewing Turkey's eligibility for a programme that gives many exports from developing countries duty-free access to the US market.

Turkey is also at risk from developments in the US. The Federal Reserve continues to raise interest rates, which encourages investors to pull money out of emerging markets. The impact has been moderate, but it is potential aggravating factor for countries such as Turkey with other vulnerabilities.

In some respects the recent performance of the Turkish economy looks reasonable. It has grown every year this century apart from 2001 (the country's last economic crisis when it received an IMF bailout) and 2009 (in the aftermath of the global financial crisis). In some years growth has been very strong.

Unemployment is on the high side - the most recent figure is 9.9% - but it has been relatively stable.

One important difference compared with the country's crisis at the beginning of the century is that there is now no exchange rate target, unlike in 2001.

Back then, the pressure in the currency markets forced Turkey to abandon the targets. This time there is no currency peg so the lira has simply been allowed to depreciate.

That said, credit rating agency Moody's says that economic growth has been boosted to unsustainable levels by spending and tax policies. Policies for long-term growth have been sidelined, the agency says, given the focus on election cycles.

Fitch warns that the risk of a hard landing for the economy, meaning a sharp slowdown or even a recession, has increased.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45113472
 
That chap Erdogan has successfully driven that country into the ground.
 
No problem, the greatest Muslim leader in the world and the defender of the ummah will continue to live in his palace like a king. :101:
 
That chap is the one who revived the economy and gave growth to the economy when he came to power.

Do you think it is time for the great leader to cut down on his expenses? How does one justify him living a life of supreme luxury in a huge palace with carpets and curtains worth millions?
 
There may be sonething in it but there is a desperation in the West to keep Turkey down. Turkey has become a regional superpower in just over a decade and its not following the script of the Powers where they do the bidding the Likes of USA and Russia. If the Coup was successful to overthrow Erdogen, like in Egypt then democracy would not be under threat as democracy is what the West defines to be in its interest. A friend of mine undertook a mercy mission to BD for the Royhinga and he said it was the Turks that were there for the poor muslims, not the Saudis or the defenders of "human rights" from the West. Erdogen is not perfect but IA he takes Turkey to new heights.

Btw before people get too carried away, Turjeys GDP/Debt ratio is in the low 30%. Sorry to disappoint the haters.
 
There may be sonething in it but there is a desperation in the West to keep Turkey down. Turkey has become a regional superpower in just over a decade and its not following the script of the Powers where they do the bidding the Likes of USA and Russia. If the Coup was successful to overthrow Erdogen, like in Egypt then democracy would not be under threat as democracy is what the West defines to be in its interest. A friend of mine undertook a mercy mission to BD for the Royhinga and he said it was the Turks that were there for the poor muslims, not the Saudis or the defenders of "human rights" from the West. Erdogen is not perfect but IA he takes Turkey to new heights.

Btw before people get too carried away, Turjeys GDP/Debt ratio is in the low 30%. Sorry to disappoint the haters.

Turkey has done well for the last decade, but it does show you have to be on board with the USA or they can make things very difficult for you. You just need to look at Iran to see the effect a hostile America can have on an economy.
 
Turkey has done well for the last decade, but it does show you have to be on board with the USA or they can make things very difficult for you. You just need to look at Iran to see the effect a hostile America can have on an economy.

Each empire feels invincible and then suddenly its power goes. American arrogance will end like the arrogance of all those that went before it.
 
And both oppose the West.

I’m afraid it has very little to do with the west and more to do with the countries endemic corruption and horrendous domestic policies.

Venezuela should be one of the richest Latin American countries in the world given it has one of most prosperous oil reserves.

But fact is 2 Million people have fled the country in the last 4 years because the country’s economic policies have benefited only those at the top even though it claims it’s social democratic country. It’s in a total chaos and the leadership done squat all to change course.

As for Turkey I used to be a fan or Erdogan but he’s now become a ruthless power hungry dictator. He’s jailed many journalists just for being critical of him and he’s changed the constitution so he can remain in power. Also there is no doubt whatsoever he’s very corrupt - it’s a well known the palace he owns is worth £400 Million. Also read how his wife is a total shopaholic spending obscene amounts of money. It’s all there and we’ll
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I’m afraid it has very little to do with the west and more to do with the countries endemic corruption and horrendous domestic policies.

Venezuela should be one of the richest Latin American countries in the world given it has one of most prosperous oil reserves.

But fact is 2 Million people have fled the country in the last 4 years because the country’s economic policies have benefited only those at the top even though it claims it’s social democratic country. It’s in a total chaos and the leadership done squat all to change course.

As for Turkey I used to be a fan or Erdogan but he’s now become a ruthless power hungry dictator. He’s jailed many journalists just for being critical of him and he’s changed the constitution so he can remain in power. Also there is no doubt whatsoever he’s very corrupt - it’s a well known the palace he owns is worth £400 Million. Also read how his wife is a total shopaholic spending obscene amounts of money. It’s all there and we’ll
Documented.

In the case of Venzuela i agree but have you asked yourself as to why you read so much about Turkey and very little about Egypt. As i said Erdogen is not perfect but whether the West likes it or not, he is very popular. The West wanted him overthrown and he wasnt and hence the constant accusations of being a dictator. When was the last time anyone told you that he is popular in Turkey?
 
In the case of Venzuela i agree but have you asked yourself as to why you read so much about Turkey and very little about Egypt. As i said Erdogen is not perfect but whether the West likes it or not, he is very popular. The West wanted him overthrown and he wasnt and hence the constant accusations of being a dictator. When was the last time anyone told you that he is popular in Turkey?

Erdogan is not popular at all. In case you didn’t know he lost his referendum power vote in Istanbul last year.

Also regarding this years election he got much more coverage then any of his opponents with his control of the media.

His party is only popular in the east of turkey which is much poorer. But the question is he’s become a dictatorial not because the West says so but because of his own actions - he’s jailed numerous journalists and academics only because they have criticised his policies. Why has he become so insecure in the last few years in order to take such action ?

He changed the constitution so he could remain in power - only someone greedy who does not want go by hook or crook does such a thing.

And of course you haven’t addressed the rampant corruption including the ridiculous palace he has as well as his wife going on mega shopping sprees.
Where did this money come from ?? Certainly he wasn’t some oil tycoon before he got elected.

These charges against Erodogan are not some western conspiracy but based on ample evidence and facts.

And I used to be one of his supporters but wow what a massive disappointment he has become.

Whoever you are, once you overstay your welcome and manipulate to stay in power it becomes clear what a type of person you are.
 
Erdogan is not popular at all. In case you didn’t know he lost his referendum power vote in Istanbul last year.

Also regarding this years election he got much more coverage then any of his opponents with his control of the media.

His party is only popular in the east of turkey which is much poorer. But the question is he’s become a dictatorial not because the West says so but because of his own actions - he’s jailed numerous journalists and academics only because they have criticised his policies. Why has he become so insecure in the last few years in order to take such action ?

He changed the constitution so he could remain in power - only someone greedy who does not want go by hook or crook does such a thing.

And of course you haven’t addressed the rampant corruption including the ridiculous palace he has as well as his wife going on mega shopping sprees.
Where did this money come from ?? Certainly he wasn’t some oil tycoon before he got elected.

These charges against Erodogan are not some western conspiracy but based on ample evidence and facts.

And I used to be one of his supporters but wow what a massive disappointment he has become.

Whoever you are, once you overstay your welcome and manipulate to stay in power it becomes clear what a type of person you are.

I dont accept that he is not popular, he just won the election and Turks have access to more all the international media. How do i know this, well one of the British teachers that i worked with has now retired to Turkey. He tells me that he gets all the channels, do you know more than him? His crackdown is more than justified as they were planning a coup but it was only the popular mandate that stopped them from taking over. Just look at the coup in Egypt- any outcry from the West- no. A democratically elected leader kicked out and jailed and not a peep. I say to Erdogen keep up the good work. If the west hates you, you must be doing something right
 
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ISTANBUL (Reuters) - President Tayyip Erdogan denied on Saturday that Turkey is in a currency crisis, dismissing a plunge in the lira as ‘fluctuations’ which have nothing to do with economic fundamentals.

Speaking after U.S. President Donald Trump doubled tariffs on Turkish steel and aluminum imports, Erdogan described Friday’s 18 percent fall in the lira to a record low as the ‘missiles’ of an economic war waged against Turkey.

Erdogan said those who plotted against Turkey in a failed coup attempt in July 2016 were now trying to target the country through its economy, and pledged to fight back. He did not name any countries.

“Those who can’t compete with us on the ground have brought online fictional currency plots that have nothing to with the realities of our country, production and real economy,” Erdogan told a provincial meeting of his AK Party in the Black Sea coastal town of Rize.

“The country is neither crumbling, nor being destroyed or bankrupt or in a crisis,” he said, and added that the way out of the ‘currency plot’ was to boost production and ‘minimize interest rates’.

The Turkish lira has lost about 40 percent this year alone, largely over worries about Erdogan’s influence over the economy, his repeated calls for lower interest rates in the face of high inflation and deteriorating ties with the United States.

The two governments have been at odds over a wide range of topics - from diverging interests in Syria, to Turkey’s ambition to buy Russian defense systems, and the case of evangelical pastor Andrew Brunson, who is on trial in Turkey on terrorism charges.

Erdogan also appeared to allude to a ‘deadline’ for handing over Brunson, although he did not name the United States as having set any such deadline or say precisely when it might have expired. “(They are) threatening, saying you will send (him) until 6 pm ... This is not some random country. This is Turkey,” he said.

A Turkish delegation visited Washington for talks this week but left with no signs of a breakthrough.

After almost 20 months in a Turkish jail, Brunson was moved to house arrest in July by a court. Since then Trump and his vice president Mike Pence have repeatedly called for his release while Ankara said the decision was up to the courts.

Washington in response sanctioned two Turkish ministers and Trump on Friday announced it was doubling the tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from Turkey, saying relations with Ankara were “not good at this time”.

LANGUAGE OF THREATS

An important emerging market, Turkey borders Iran, Iraq and Syria and has been mostly pro-Western for decades. Financial upheaval risks further destabilizing an already volatile region.

A meeting on Friday unveiling a new economic approach by Turkey’s finance minister Berat Albayrak, Erdogan’s son-in-law, did little to offer support for the free-falling lira as investors sought concrete steps such as an interest rate increase to restore confidence.

“I am asking you. What possible reason could there be behind the lira which was at 2.8 against dollar in July 15, 2016 to slide below 6 yesterday? During this period, Turkey has set records in its exports, production and employment,” Erdogan said.

He repeated a long-standing plan to shift to trading in national currencies and said Turkey was preparing for such a step with Russia, China and Ukraine.

He also repeated his call to Turks to sell their dollar and euro savings to shore up the lira. “If there are dollars under your pillow, take these out... Immediately give these to the banks and convert to Turkish lira and by doing this, we fight this war of independence and the future,” he said.

He also said it was a pity that Washington chose Brunson over Turkey, its partner in NATO, and in an opinion piece in the New York Times, he warned the United States that Ankara had other alternatives as allies.

Washington “must give up the misguided notion that our relationship can be asymmetrical”, he said in the opinion piece.

Turkey, home to the Incirlik air base which is used by U.S. forces in the Middle East, has been a NATO member since the 1950s. It is host to a critical part of the Western alliance’s missile defense system against Iran.

In a separate opinion piece in the pro-government newspaper Daily Sabah, Erdogan’s spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said Turkey’s efforts to solve the crisis with diplomatic methods had been dismissed by the Trump administration, warning that “the U.S. runs the risk of losing Turkey” as an ally.

“The entire Turkish public is against U.S. policies that disregard Turkey’s legitimate security demands. Threats, sanctions and bullying against Turkey will not work,” he said.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...key-after-trump-doubles-tariffs-idUSKBN1KW08U
 
Turkish lira hits new record low after last session's free fall

The Turkish lira touched a new record low in early Asian trade after its free fall in the previous session.

On Monday, the lira last traded down by around 9 percent against the greenback at around 6.9915 at 11:05 a.m. HK/SIN. It had earlier dropped to a fresh all-time low of 7.24, before paring some losses after the Turkish government moved to assuage market nerves frayed by the currency's recent fall.

Finance Minister Berat Albayrak said in a Sunday interview with local media outlet Hurriyet that the government had a plan in place following the fall in the lira, Reuters reported. Albayrak said Turkish institutions will take "necessary steps" beginning Monday, but Reuters said few specifics were provided on what those steps included.

The lira briefly plunged 20 percent against the dollar on Friday, finishing the U.S. session lower by some 16 percent after U.S. President Donald Trump said he had approved metals tariffs on Turkey to be doubled.

The weakness in the lira came against the backdrop of the Turkish economy facing major challenges, but it has come under pressure most recently after U.S.-Turkey talks over the detention of a U.S. pastor in Turkey appeared to make no major progress.

"The decline in the lira is multifaceted, caused not only by a weak external position in terms of current account deficit and inadequate currency reserves, but also the challenging political environment which exacerbates the vulnerabilities in the lira," Kerry Craig, global market strategist at J.P. Morgan Asset Management, wrote in a recent note.

"A mid-meeting rate hike and tightening of monetary policy may help to avert the lira's decline, to some extent," he added.

After calling for citizens to convert out of dollars and gold and buy the lira to help fight a "national struggle" last week, Turkish President Recep Erdogan said Sunday that the drop in the currency was not an accurate reflection of the country's fundamentals, Reuters said.

"There is no economic reason ... This is called carrying out an operation against Turkey," Erdogan said, based on a translation.

Although sentiment in the wake of the lira's plunge has been cautious, the turmoil in Turkey is not widely seen by analysts as posing a significant contagion risk for a broader financial crisis due to the confluence of factors that have resulted in the drop in the lira.

"[T]he drivers of the lira's decline are very specific to Turkey — therefore it should not derail the positive fundamentals in other emerging markets over a longer term," Craig said.

Still, some think the crisis could have a degree of fallout in the short term.

"While Turkey does not reflect any endemic risk amongst emerging markets, there could still be some sentiment spillovers into (emerging market) currencies and risky assets in the near term," Chang Wei Liang, a strategist at Mizuho Bank, said in a note.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/13/turkish-lira-turkey-currency-hits-new-record-low.html
 
From being one step away of joining the EU to this :@

Erdogan is doing a Kim un jung to his countrymen. Credit to Trump and Putin as well tho.
 
The US sanctions is a blessing in disguise for Erdogan. It's a mistake to think all this has to do with the recent US rift, the economic mess started long time ago. Trump's tweets simply gave Erdogan a villain for his narrative and his support base will lap it up no questions asked.

Returning the US pastor and ceding independence to the central bank will go a long way in strengthening the lira as well as abate investor fears. The issue is the man is way too stubborn to see sense. If it goes down this path it will end up as an all too familiar and tragic ending like most dictator stories!
 
Imran Khan extends support to Turkey in times of 'severe economic challenges'

Prime minister-in-waiting Imran Khan on Tuesday extended his support to Turkey which is embroiled in an intense dispute with the United States that has seen the lira tumble.

In a tweet, Khan assured Turkey's President Recep Erdogan and the Turkish people that "we (the people of Pakistan) are praying for their success in dealing with the severe economic challenges confronting them".

He also expressed hope that the country would succeed in coming out of the crisis, "as they have always succeeded against adversities in their glorious history".

A day earlier, the Foreign Office had also announced the country's support for Turkey and had insisted on dialogue with the US in order to maintain peace and stability.

"The people and the Government of Pakistan reiterate their strong support for the Government and the people of Turkey in their quest for peace and prosperity," the statement said, adding that Islamabad will continue to stand by the Turkish people "as always".

On Monday, Turkey’s central bank failed to halt the precipitous plunge of the lira with a raft of measures aimed at soothing markets, as Erdogan accused the United States of seeking to stab its Nato ally “in the back”.

A dispute between Turkey and the US — which reached new intensity over the detention of an American pastor — has hammered the lira and also raised questions over the future partnership between Washington and Ankara.

Last Friday, President Donald Trump had said via a tweet that the tariff on aluminium imports would be increased to 20 per cent and the tariff on steel imports would be raised to 50pc as the Turkish Lira “slides rapidly downward against our very strong Dollar!”

Trump had also declared that “Our relations with Turkey are not good at this time!”

Pakistan and Turkey have enjoyed close ties over the years. In February, during the vote on US's motion to ‘grey list’ Pakistan at the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) plenary meeting, the only country left opposing the motion was Turkey.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1426955/i...turkey-in-times-of-severe-economic-challenges
 
Reading about the effects sanctions are having on Russia, Turkey and Iran, does make you realise that the USA can still wreck other countries economies, and despite all the talk of these countries forming an eastern bloc, it doesn't seem to provide much of a shield. Imran Khan himself might find this out when he tries to set terms with the USA from a far weaker position one would imagine.
 
Turkey has slapped an additional tax on imports of a broad range of American goods, the latest escalation in a standoff that’s brought ties between the two NATO allies to a breaking point.

The decision follows President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s call on Tuesday for a boycott of U.S. electronics including Apple Inc.’s iPhones to retaliate for the Trump administration’s punitive actions over the past few weeks to pressure Turkey into releasing an American pastor.

A calculation by Bloomberg shows the items listed in the decree accounted for $1 billion of imports last year, similar to the amount of Turkish steel and aluminum exports that were subjected to higher tariffs by President Donald Trump last week. The decision shows Turkey giving a proportionate response to American “attacks” on the Turkish economy, Vice President Fuat Oktay said in a Tweet.

Turkey will impose an additional 50 percent tax on U.S. rice, 140 percent on spirits and 120 percent on cars. There are also additional charges on U.S. cosmetics, tobacco and some food products.

The lira weakened Wednesday morning after an 8.4 percent jump on Tuesday. It was trading 0.7 percent lower at 6.33948 per dollar at 9:25 a.m. in Istanbul.

The Turkish currency has lost about a quarter of its value since the U.S. sanctioned two ministers in Erdogan’s administration over the continued detention of a U.S. Pastor Andrew Brunson to increase pressure on Ankara for his release. Erdogan has rejected Washington’s pleas, saying that Turkish judiciary won’t take orders from abroad.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ditional-tax-on-american-goods-including-cars
 
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Reading about the effects sanctions are having on Russia, Turkey and Iran, does make you realise that the USA can still wreck other countries economies, and despite all the talk of these countries forming an eastern bloc, it doesn't seem to provide much of a shield. Imran Khan himself might find this out when he tries to set terms with the USA from a far weaker position one would imagine.

The western countries and American allies still control most of the economy.

Only Russia India and China are the big economies outside US influence. Even here India and China have divergent views. China and Russia alone do not have the wherewithal to counter the huge economic scale of America and its allies. So practically we dont have a counter eastern block.

Out of the 1tn dollar economies Russia China India Brazil Indonesia and Mexico can form a block. But there are political differences to create a NATO like cohesive unit.
 
Qatari Emir meets Erdogan in Ankara, pledges $15 billion investment to Turkey

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Qatar's Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani visited Ankara Wednesday in an apparent show of support for Turkey, pledging $15 billion in direct investments in the country that found itself embroiled in a crisis with the U.S.

https://www.dailysabah.com/economy/2018/08/15/qatari-emir-meets-erdogan-in-ankara-pledges-15-billion-investment-to-turkey

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/son-dakika-katar-dan-turkiye-ye-siyaset-2725442/

:trump
 
Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said the U.S. is ready to slap Turkey with more sanctions if President Recep Tayyip Erdogan refuses the quick release of an American pastor, escalating a diplomatic rift that has roiled global financial markets.

“We put sanctions on several of the Cabinet members,” Mnuchin said Thursday during a Cabinet meeting at the White House. “We have more that we’re planning to do if they don’t release him quickly.”

Mnuchin’s remarks were prompted by President Donald Trump, who said Turkey has “not proven to be a good friend” to the U.S. Trump complained that his administration had secured the release of a Turkish citizen from an unnamed country on behalf of Erdogan, who didn’t reciprocate by releasing pastor Andrew Brunson.

“We got somebody out for him,” Trump said. “He needed help getting somebody out of some place, he came out. They want to hold our wonderful pastor. Not fair. Not right.”

The lira pared gains Thursday following Mnuchin’s remarks. The dollar and Japanese yen rallied.

The plight of Brunson has dominated the Trump administration’s policy toward its NATO ally, even as the dispute shakes currency markets. Brunson, who Turkish officials say had links to a failed 2016 coup, is being held under house arrest. A lower court already turned down his lawyer’s request to free him and the U.S. has said it won’t negotiate until he’s released.

Erdogan has said the standoff would push Turkey to forge other alliances. His government said it would not comply with U.S. sanctions against Iran, a key oil supplier to Turkey.

He has also moved to shore up alliances in Europe and the Middle East, easing pressure on the battered lira, as the standoff with the U.S. has deepened. Efforts to rally support and bolster domestic markets included a call Thursday between Turkish Finance Minister Berat Albayrak and international investors.

Erdogan also spoke with French President Emmanuel Macron, a day after talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel. While Berlin isn’t offering any aid, the conversation reflects the stakes on both sides and Germany’s sway as the biggest economy in Europe.

Germany wants Turkey to avoid a financial meltdown and can’t allow the country to descend into chaos, according to a person familiar with Merkel’s thinking who asked not to be identified. After a war of words over democratic values sent relations to a low point a year ago, Germany is also making an overture by hosting Erdogan for a state visit on Sept. 28.

Relations between Berlin and Ankara deteriorated as Erdogan consolidated power after the failed coup in 2016. Tensions escalated after Turkey detained a group of a human-rights activists and jailed a German journalist. Another dispute led Germany to withdraw troops from a NATO air base in Turkey. But Erdogan’s overtures to Europe suggest he’s prepared to mend ties in an attempt to weather the U.S. pressure.

A $15 billion pledge of support from Qatar will help Turkey buy time as it tries to contain double-digit inflation and a mass of foreign currency debt, investors say. But it won’t replace the need for new policy. Qatar’s pledge rewards Erdogan for standing by the gas-rich Gulf country against a Saudi-led boycott backed by Trump.


Turkey’s effort to bolster its political alliances came in tandem with steps taken by authorities to support the banking system and curb short selling of the lira. The lira had lost as much as a quarter of its value within a matter of weeks after the U.S. sanctioned members of Erdogan’s government. Albayrak on Thursday ruled out restrictions on movement of capital as a policy option, helping lift the currency before Mnuchin’s remarks.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...y-faces-more-sanctions-if-pastor-not-released
 
ANKARA, Turkey -- Shots were fired at a security booth outside the U.S. Embassy in the Turkish capital, Ankara, early Monday, the Ankara Governorate confirmed in a statement. It said six rounds were fired from a moving white car, targeting a security booth outside Gate 6. It said a preliminary investigation determined that three bullets hit the gate and a glass section, but no one was hurt. Police were searching for the car and suspects, who had not yet been identified.

The U.S. mission is closed this week as Turkey celebrates the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Adha, but an embassy spokesperson issued a statement confirming that a "security incident" had occurred. The spokesperson added, "We have no reports of any injuries and we are investigating the details. We thank the Turkish National Police for their rapid response."

Ties between Ankara and Washington have been strained over the case of an imprisoned American pastor, leading the U.S. to impose sanctions and increased tariffs that sent the Turkish lira tumbling last week.

The Reuters news agency notes that, "The U.S. embassy in Ankara and the consulate in Istanbul have been the targets of attacks by militants and have faced numerous security threats in the past."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-embsssy-ankara-turkey-shots-fired-gate-reports/
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Turkish lira reaches a new record low of 8 to the dollar after President Erdoğan goaded European leaders and dared the US to hit Ankara with sanctions. Geopolitical tensions have exacerbated more deep-rooted concerns about the management of the economy.<a href="https://t.co/lbsJCGpZhW">https://t.co/lbsJCGpZhW</a></p>— Laura Pitel (@laurapitel) <a href="https://twitter.com/laurapitel/status/1320645095897661440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Turkey’s lira sinks to 8 against the US dollar for the first time <a href="https://t.co/Y3aEqYftoa">https://t.co/Y3aEqYftoa</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/laurapitel?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@laurapitel</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/FTMarkets?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FTMarkets</a> <a href="https://t.co/wdDXRBHNnK">pic.twitter.com/wdDXRBHNnK</a></p>— Adam Samson (@adamsamson) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamsamson/status/1320632611379814405?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 


The sinking of the Turkish Lira against the USD may not be bad news. It may benefit Turkish exporters and make their goods more competitive.
 
Erdogan has ruined Turkey.

He makes Modi look like Mother Teresa in comparison.
 
Erdogan has ruined Turkey.

He makes Modi look like Mother Teresa in comparison.

Only in your eyes

Turkey has not been more internationally relevant in its last 100 years as it is today under erdogan
 
Mr Erdogan also dared the US to follow through on what he said were threats to impose sanctions on the country in relation to its role in the re-eruption of fighting in the disputed Caucasus region of Nagorno-Karabakh. Ankara has supplied weapons and offered strong political backing to the armed forces of Azerbaijan, which is battling Armenian soldiers in the region.

https://www.ft.com/content/aa6f87e8-9f5b-4861-822b-acd633db9dea

Now asking for more sanction .. this guy is on a suicide mission for his country. I feel for the numerous
well meaning Turks in his country who are frustrated with his rule.
 
Now asking for more sanction .. this guy is on a suicide mission for his country. I feel for the numerous
well meaning Turks in his country who are frustrated with his rule.

You just don't like him because he doesn't support India. Don't act as if you care about Turkey or Turks.
 
This is not bias, it is Islamic brotherhood which is an article of faith for Muslims.

Hindutva apologists understand this and their best response every single time is to undermine it, idk why. Maybe they just dont want to or like to see it happen. One Indian poster even wrote that Pakistanis should distance themselves from African muslims over the mocking of Prophet (pbuh). As if this issue doesnt concern muslims from all over the world.
 
Hindutva apologists understand this and their best response every single time is to undermine it, idk why. Maybe they just dont want to or like to see it happen. One Indian poster even wrote that Pakistanis should distance themselves from African muslims over the mocking of Prophet (pbuh). As if this issue doesnt concern muslims from all over the world.

The poster you mention regularly rails against Pakistan's refusal to recognise Israel. On the one hand I can agree with him that Pakistan should worry about issues closer to home, but where is the advantage to seeking closer ties to neighbours who wish to cripple you?

My advice to neighbours would be extend the embrace of welcome openly and sincerely and then if Pakistan refuses to reciprocate, we will be the first to castigate them.
 
Ankara ka Joker has been making one bad move after another for the last few years. My friends in Istanbul say the economic crunch is killing them.
 
Its not similar as I am passive about Erdagon. Atleast to some extent, you have exposed the general Indian bias.

See the contradicting answer i got from captain, also I have an Indian bias never refused that..
 
Hindutva apologists understand this and their best response every single time is to undermine it, idk why. Maybe they just dont want to or like to see it happen. One Indian poster even wrote that Pakistanis should distance themselves from African muslims over the mocking of Prophet (pbuh). As if this issue doesnt concern muslims from all over the world.

I don’t undermine it, If its a thing Muslims in all countries should own up to it, have no issues to that.

Also the brotherhood goes weak when it comes to Chinese Muslims, maybe thats why I question the bias, undermining is negative way.
 
Hindutva apologists understand this and their best response every single time is to undermine it, idk why. Maybe they just dont want to or like to see it happen. One Indian poster even wrote that Pakistanis should distance themselves from African muslims over the mocking of Prophet (pbuh). As if this issue doesnt concern muslims from all over the world.

Please don't lump all indian posters as hindutva supporters. That poster gives us hindutvas a bad name. If an hindutva supporter is honest about his ideology, he will never support france.
 
Erdogan is amazing though, Turkey is part of Eu , Nato, New Islamic Order, does billions of trade with Israel, supports Azerbaijan along with Israel, has troops outside its nation in Libya, Syria.

As @sweep shot says defn the best leader out there.
 
Turkish lira sinks amid Erdogan fury with allies

The Turkish lira has hit a record low of 8.15 against the dollar amid investor anxiety about the Turkish economy, hit by coronavirus and friction with Nato allies.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has riled France and the US among others.

Analysts attribute the weakening to concern about Turkish inflation - 11.7% last month - and the central bank's refusal to raise its key interest rate.

A rate rise could dampen inflation and encourage investors to buy lira.

President Erdogan's regional muscle-flexing - in Libya, Syria, around Cyprus and in the Caucasus - has disconcerted investors, market analysts say.

"The rising geopolitical tensions with the USA and EU are new sources of pressure weakening the lira," said a Turkish foreign exchange trader quoted by Reuters news agency.

Piotr Matys, an analyst at Rabobank, said there were concerns that a win for US presidential candidate Joe Biden could mean "severe sanctions on Turkey for purchasing the Russian S-400 [anti-aircraft] defence system" and "the market is also concerned about [the] rapidly deteriorating relationship between Turkey and France".

The lira has lost 26% of its value this year and the Turkish authorities are reported to have spent about $134bn (£103bn) in the past 18 months propping up the currency.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54705617
 
Turkish lira sinks amid Erdogan fury with allies

The Turkish lira has hit a record low of 8.15 against the dollar amid investor anxiety about the Turkish economy, hit by coronavirus and friction with Nato allies.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has riled France and the US among others.

Analysts attribute the weakening to concern about Turkish inflation - 11.7% last month - and the central bank's refusal to raise its key interest rate.

A rate rise could dampen inflation and encourage investors to buy lira.

President Erdogan's regional muscle-flexing - in Libya, Syria, around Cyprus and in the Caucasus - has disconcerted investors, market analysts say.

"The rising geopolitical tensions with the USA and EU are new sources of pressure weakening the lira," said a Turkish foreign exchange trader quoted by Reuters news agency.

Piotr Matys, an analyst at Rabobank, said there were concerns that a win for US presidential candidate Joe Biden could mean "severe sanctions on Turkey for purchasing the Russian S-400 [anti-aircraft] defence system" and "the market is also concerned about [the] rapidly deteriorating relationship between Turkey and France".

The lira has lost 26% of its value this year and the Turkish authorities are reported to have spent about $134bn (£103bn) in the past 18 months propping up the currency.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54705617

Thats why Erdogan is speaking so much. Diversion from what he has created
 
It is not easy to maintain a good economy while keeping anti West stance in modern world.

Erodgan turned Turkey into an economic power house and hopefully he will be able to survive the present storm and shift his country's economy towards indigenous growth.
 
It is not easy to maintain a good economy while keeping anti West stance in modern world.

Erodgan turned Turkey into an economic power house and hopefully he will be able to survive the present storm and shift his country's economy towards indigenous growth.


Erdogan is famous for is nepotism. He has his family, and friends in all the important positions. They are there because of him and not on merit. Kinda like trump. 1 dollar to 8 Lira is insane
 
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A good summary by Shekhar Gupta as usual. Worth a watch.

Talks about the tinpot Turkish economy with some interesting facts and figures.
 
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A good summary by Shekhar Gupta as usual. Worth a watch.

Talks about the tinpot Turkish economy with some interesting facts and figures.

Afraid that tells me what I need to know about this video.
 
Afraid that tells me what I need to know about this video.

Those are my words, not the video's. So you can still give it a watch and make your own conclusions.
 
My Turkish friends have been badmouthing Erdogan from a long time. They think the country is getting too fundamentalist to their liking. The downward spiral of economy isn’t helping matters.
 
My Turkish friends have been badmouthing Erdogan from a long time. They think the country is getting too fundamentalist to their liking. The downward spiral of economy isn’t helping matters.

I did not watch the above video. However my friends in turkey also complain about getting too religious. One complains that at work if you don’t pray with everyone they make it uncomfortable for you. Regarding economics. That what happens when you put you family me members and cronies in important positions. 1 dollar to 8 lira
 
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A good summary by Shekhar Gupta as usual. Worth a watch.

Talks about the tinpot Turkish economy with some interesting facts and figures.

Your source of information is Shekhar Gupta of all people? Raise your standards buddy! This man is the definition of half-baked knowledge.
 
I did not watch the above video. However my friends in turkey also complain about getting too religious. One complains that at work if you don’t pray with everyone they make it uncomfortable for you. Regarding economics. That what happens when you put you family me members and cronies in important positions. 1 dollar to 8 lira

I cannot comment on the religion bit but Turkey was very liberal and that is how Ataturk wanted it, however, Erdogan like IK carries his religion on his sleeve and therefore trying to make Turkey more 'religious'. The Turkish people democratically elected him and even laid down in front of tanks when there was a coup attempt by the Turkish Army. Surely they are not stupid to not know that Erdogan envisions a more religious Turkey. There might be enough people wanting Erdogan's version of Turkey to enable him to keep winning elections/hold onto power. Obviously not everyone would be happy.

Secondly it is Erdogan who brought the Turkish economy out of the dumps and made it into a regional power to begin with. Corona has really hit them hard because Turkey used to earn about $40b just through tourism that stopped at literally the flick of a switch. The Turkish economy has enough strength to bounce back from these shocks.
 
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I cannot comment on the religion bit but Turkey was very liberal and that is how Ataturk wanted it, however, Erdogan like IK carries his religion on his sleeve and therefore trying to make Turkey more 'religious'. The Turkish people democratically elected him and even laid down in front of tanks when there was a coup attempt by the Turkish Army. Surely they are not stupid to not know that Erdogan envisions a more religious Turkey. There might be enough people wanting Erdogan's version of Turkey to enable him to keep winning elections/hold onto power. Obviously not everyone would be happy.

Secondly it is Erdogan who brought the Turkish economy out of the dumps and made it into a regional power to begin with. Corona has really hit them hard because Turkey used to earn about $40b just through tourism that stopped at literally the flick of a switch. The Turkish economy has enough strength to bounce back from these shocks.



Not like some countries having 500 million in abject poverty and experiencing double digit negative growth.

I have been going to turkey for decades now. Istanbul is by far my fav city in the world . You were free to pray before if u wanted. To be forced to do so is very different . That’s what I gather from my friends. One of them is a practicing Muslim but does not like the environment. Erdogan is a polarizing figure. He has less than 50 percent of the votes. Also he changed the system to stay in power. Pm was the man in charge. Now the president. He has made it illegal to criticize the president. But every Friday after the prayers he goes on tv and criticizes his opponents. He has some of his opposition people in prison. Has journalist in prison who oppose him. He is a dictator Kinda like Putin. I have lived long enough to know that you should not bring nationalism or religion in public sphere . Has terrible consequences. See pakistán under zia, see india under modi, see usa u see trump. These are the easiest sentiments to manipulate to get the masses going. Turkey economy was in the shambles before the pandemic. However will recover in due time.
 
I have been going to turkey for decades now. Istanbul is by far my fav city in the world . You were free to pray before if u wanted. To be forced to do so is very different . That’s what I gather from my friends. One of them is a practicing Muslim but does not like the environment. Erdogan is a polarizing figure. He has less than 50 percent of the votes. Also he changed the system to stay in power. Pm was the man in charge. Now the president. He has made it illegal to criticize the president. But every Friday after the prayers he goes on tv and criticizes his opponents. He has some of his opposition people in prison. Has journalist in prison who oppose him. He is a dictator Kinda like Putin. I have lived long enough to know that you should not bring nationalism or religion in public sphere . Has terrible consequences. See pakistán under zia, see india under modi, see usa u see trump. These are the easiest sentiments to manipulate to get the masses going. Turkey economy was in the shambles before the pandemic. However will recover in due time.

I can guarantee you people will never understand it even 1000 years from know

Short term goals >>> long term stability with keeping religion and state separate

humanities can teach people the constitution side of things but unfortunately teaching rule of law is not a priority in Muslim countries where every other guy wants to be KHALIFAA
 
I have been going to turkey for decades now. Istanbul is by far my fav city in the world . You were free to pray before if u wanted. To be forced to do so is very different . That’s what I gather from my friends. One of them is a practicing Muslim but does not like the environment. Erdogan is a polarizing figure. He has less than 50 percent of the votes. Also he changed the system to stay in power. Pm was the man in charge. Now the president. He has made it illegal to criticize the president. But every Friday after the prayers he goes on tv and criticizes his opponents. He has some of his opposition people in prison. Has journalist in prison who oppose him. He is a dictator Kinda like Putin. I have lived long enough to know that you should not bring nationalism or religion in public sphere . Has terrible consequences. See pakistán under zia, see india under modi, see usa u see trump. These are the easiest sentiments to manipulate to get the masses going. Turkey economy was in the shambles before the pandemic. However will recover in due time.

I agree with you that religion and nationalism should be kept out of politics, or more realistically, restricted to where they are appropriate since every aspect of life has some political element. But I've also been to Turkey and under Erdogan it is still very westernised and very liberal compared to just about any other Muslim country. I would say if anything he has redressed the balance somewhat where religion has been allowed some leniency whereas previously it was forced underground. Seems like a decent balance at the moment to me.

As for Turkish economy diving, when you are sucked into a regional conflict as happened with Syria, and the world in general is in recession for reasons beyond control, then hard to say that he is directly responsible.
 
The massive earth quake now will make it worse .. disasters like earthquakes requires billions of dollars for recovery
 
Turkeys finance minister ( also son in law of erdogan the calipha) resigns citing health issues. Lira in a free fall
 
Turkey has stood behind Pakistan in tough times. It's time Pakistan should support turkey as respect.
 
I heard India's mangoes are better in quality (from Pak ppers). Haven't eaten Pakistani mangoes so not sure.

I have had indian mangos 🥭 once in New York. The were good. Alphonso I think. Pakistani mango That I have had in Pakistan were much better
 
The Turkish lira weakened as much as 0.8% against the dollar on Friday as persisting investor worries about a low interest rate monetary policy and rising inflation pushed it back towards last week's record low.

After weakening as far as 13.9095, the lira stood at 13.8750 versus the US currency at 0625 GMT. It has lost 46% of its value to the US currency this year, touching an all-time low of 14.0 last week.

Turkey's lira weakens 2%, Erdogan endorses low rates anew

Turkey's new finance and treasury minister Nureddin Nebati said on Thursday the budget deficit would come in under 3.5% of GDP this year and would be managed with fiscal discipline, after he was appointed last week.
 
https://www.reuters.com/markets/rates-bonds/turkish-lira-trades-near-record-low-after-rate-cut-fuels-slide-2021-12-17/

Turkey's currency crisis accelerated on Friday as the lira plunged 8%, gripped by fears of an inflationary spiral brought on by President Tayyip Erdogan's unorthodox plan to slash interest rates in the face of soaring prices.

Business leaders issued rare public criticism of economic policies. The head of Istanbul Chamber of Industry said he had been "astonished" to watch the central bank slash rates, then sell foreign reserves to support the lira the next day.

The lira hit a new record low of 17.0705 to the dollar, triggering direct central bank intervention in the market - its fifth effort this month to address what it called "unhealthy" prices.

The bank's dollar-selling trimmed some of the lira's losses and it stood at 16.71 at 1427 GMT. At that level it had still lost 55% of its value this year - including 37% in the last 30 days - deeply unsettling the major emerging market economy.

"Turmoil in markets and the level of exchange rates is worrying many companies and having a negative impact on them," Rifat Hisarciklioglu, head of Turkey's Union of Chambers and Commodity Exchanges, said on Twitter.

Hisarciklioglu called for "urgent measures" to ensure stability and predictability in the markets.

Erdogan's decision to push through 500 basis points of monetary easing since September, including another big cut on Thursday, has sent inflation soaring above 21%. It is likely to blow through 30% next year due to ballooning import prices and an emergency hike in the minimum wage, economists say.

"With Erdogan seemingly becoming more entrenched in his anti-interest rate stance, the longer the currency crisis lasts, Turkey could be beyond the point of no return," said Patrick Curran at Tellimer, describing the lira as totally disconnected from fundamentals.

The knock-on effects have been fast and painful as Turks watch their savings and earnings dissolve.

Erdogan announced a 50% hike in the minimum wage, to 4,250 lira ($275) per month next year. But that is expected to boost overall consumer price inflation by 3.5 to 10 percentage points.

The hike affects some six million workers but, given the sharp lira depreciation, the new minimum wage is still lower than the equivalent $380 a year earlier. read more

"We believe that the current mix of policies is essentially unsustainable," Maxim Rybnikov, director sovereign ratings for the EMEA region at S&P Global Ratings, said in a webcast.

The rapid market meltdown has outstripped Turkey's 2018 currency crisis, which sparked a deep but brief recession.

The lira has also plunged 51% against the euro and 54% against sterling this year, while the country's 10-year benchmark yield has almost doubled to 22.5%.

Longer-dated dollar-denominated sovereign bonds were down as much as 2 cents on Friday, according to Tradeweb. Spreads over U.S. Treasuries widened to 590 basis points on the JPMorgan EMBI index.

The central bank's 100 basis point rate cut on Thursday sent Turkey's real rate deeper into negative territory.

The bank signalled it would pause the easing cycle to monitor its effects in the next three months, when "all aspects of the policy framework will be reassessed in order to create a foundation for a sustainable price stability", it said.

"Possibly that means other interest rate channels could be under consideration," Rybnikov said. The central bank has in the past used an interest rate corridor in setting rates.

If the rate-cutting cycle were to continue the possibility of capital controls could be on the rise, Rybnikov added. "This is not our base line...we believe that as a policy measure, they would be used as a measure of last resort."

The central bank has been under pressure from Erdogan to slash rates to boost economic growth, lending and exports under his new economic plan. Economists and opposition lawmakers have widely criticised the policy as reckless.

Though Erdogan has rebuffed pleas even from within his government to reverse course, traders predict it will have to come soon.

JPMorgan predicted a massive 12 percentage point rise in interest rates next year, far more than any of Turkey's peers.

The bluechip share index BIST100 (.XU100) and banking index (.XBANK) dropped 8.24% and 8.6% respectively, triggering indexwide circuit breakers which temporarily halted trading.
 
I think Erdoğan is losing the plot

He should know his westernised population is nothing like pakistans poor masses who can survive in a mud hut eating stale roti and a onion.
Or Afghans who will just smoke hash and opium and meth which will numb out lifes problems

He has big problems Erdoğan.
 
To the Turkish nationalists, he is the promised warrior who would restore the Ottoman Empire back to the throne :qdkcheeky

Turkey’s debt and current deficit are on record-breaking levels, and continuing to increase.
 
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