Israel, India both face threat from radical Islam: Benjamin Netanyahu

[Abdullah719]

New Delhi: The threat of radical Islam and its terrorist offshoots can 'upset' the international system, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Tuesday.

At the same time, he batted for stronger ties between India and Israel to overcome the challenge.

Addressing the inaugural session of the 'Raisina Dialogue' in the national capital, Netanyahu hailed India as Israel's "natural friend and partner".

He said closer ties between democracies was essential to secure the common future of humanity at a time "our way of life and the quest for modernity and innovation" are being challenged.

"Most notably the quest for modernity, the quest for innovation is being challenged by radical Islam and its terrorist offshoots from a variety of corners and this can upset the international system. One of the ways to overcome such a challenge is to strengthen the relation between our two great democracies. The alliances of democracies is important to secure our common future," Netanyahu said, addressing the inaugural session of the three-day geopolitical conference.

Netanyahu began his 16-minute speech by identifying military strength, economic prowess and political power as the prerequisites for the development of a nation, factors which he said were behind the Jewish nation's rise from the "ashes".

"The weak don't survive, the strong survive. You make peace, alliances with the strong. You are able to maintain peace by being strong," he said.

Netanyahu, who arrived in New Delhi on a six-day visit on January 14, 2018, said PM Modi's July 2017 visit to Israel "broke ground". "You were the first leader of India to come to Israel in 3,000 years. It will not take long for your next visit, I know that," he said.

Netanyahu further said he found "astounding" the fact that under PM Modi, India has climbed nearly 42 spots in the ease of doing business rankings even as he stressed on the need to cut red tape to encourage businesses.

He said a government can both facilitate and block economic growth. Growth is possible when there is a free market, which facilitates innovation by business entities, the Israeli PM said.

Netanyahu added that to defend a nation, one needs a strong military, which in turn requires a lot of money. The money, he said, comes from a strong economy.

"Defence costs a great deal of money. The money comes from the second source of power, economic power... The third power is political power, which means the ability to make political alliances and relationships with many other countries," he said.

http://zeenews.india.com/india/isra...radical-islam-benjamin-netanyahu-2074380.html

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Good to see two secular nations in agreement on the dangers of religious extremism.

 

[Madplayer]

There was one time when such statements would have caused Indian governments to worry about the reaction of the hundered million muslims in India. Pretty sure that time hasn't changed and Modi is also worried about how the muslims he is ruling over will recieve such statements when an outisder speaks like this in their own home.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There was one time when such statements would have caused Indian governments to worry about the reaction of the hundered million muslims in India. Pretty sure that time hasn't changed and Modi is also worried about how the muslims he is ruling over will recieve such statements when an outisder speaks like this in their own home.

I doubt Modi will be too worried, his supporters can always deflect criticism by claiming his policy is more about economy and social progress and that is what the Indian public vote for, nothing to do with religion.

 

[IAJ]

Why hasn’t any indian leader visited Israel before Modi?

 

[Gabbar Singh]

There was one time when such statements would have caused Indian governments to worry about the reaction of the hundered million muslims in India. Pretty sure that time hasn't changed and Modi is also worried about how the muslims he is ruling over will recieve such statements when an outisder speaks like this in their own home.

The majority of Indian Muslims are against radical and extremist Islam in the same way the majority of Muslims in Indonesia, Pakistan or any other country are. What kind of reaction are you expecting from Muslims in India?

Nevertheless it's a shame like the likes of Netanyahu don't talk about Jewish extremism or Modi Hindu extremism in the same way they do about Islamic extremism.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Why hasn’t any indian leader visited Israel before Modi?

Because they didn't want to annoy their Arab allies. But the Arabs don't care anymore (just look at what's happening with say Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Israel behind the scenes) and India thinks it can have a productive relationship with both the Arab world and Israel at the same time.

India didn't even have full diplomatic relations with Israel until 1992 - the Israeli President visited India in the mid 1990s and their PM in 2000. But India didn't return the favour until 2015 when the President visited and then last year when the PM visited.

 

[Varun]

There was one time when such statements would have caused Indian governments to worry about the reaction of the hundered million muslims in India. Pretty sure that time hasn't changed and Modi is also worried about how the muslims he is ruling over will recieve such statements when an outisder speaks like this in their own home.

Because the Muslims of India largely aren't proponents of 'radical Islam' and oppose it themselves?

 

[Varun]

Because they didn't want to annoy their Arab allies. But the Arabs don't care anymore (just look at what's happening with say Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Israel behind the scenes) and India thinks it can have a productive relationship with both the Arab world and Israel at the same time.

India didn't even have full diplomatic relations with Israel until 1992 - the Israeli President visited India in the mid 1990s and their PM in 2000. But India didn't return the favour until 2015 when the President visited and then last year when the PM visited.

Probably relevant that I post this video as an extension to your post:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/723FU6w6OjE" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

38:45 is an interesting chat.

 

[Madplayer]

The majority of Indian Muslims are against radical and extremist Islam in the same way the majority of Muslims in Indonesia, Pakistan or any other country are. What kind of reaction are you expecting from Muslims in India?

Nevertheless it's a shame like the likes of Netanyahu don't talk about Jewish extremism or Modi Hindu extremism in the same way they do about Islamic extremism.

If you understand a little international relations, its not a politically correct statement to make when you come to the home of 120 million muslims. He could have said "religious" extremism but no, he singled out muslims. I wonder how he felt confident enough to say this in presence of Indian PM who will surely be worried about how muslims perceive this statement from an ISRAELI PM.

 

[Madplayer]

Because the Muslims of India largely aren't proponents of 'radical Islam' and oppose it themselves?

Ofcourse they do. They would like such statements from the Israeli PM in their own country, wont they?

 

[CricketCartoons]

I am done with my daily quota of outrage, so I will pass this statement.

 

[the Great Khan]

Because the Muslims of India largely aren't proponents of 'radical Islam' and oppose it themselves?

lol, is that why ISIS recruitment is doing roaring business in Kerala?

 

[Varun]

lol, is that why ISIS recruitment is doing roaring business in Kerala?

If you read beyond the media hype, you'll realize that 21 people going to Syria isn't that big a number. Hardly anything you'd refer to as a 'roaring business'.

 

[the Great Khan]

If you read beyond the media hype, you'll realize that 21 people going to Syria isn't that big a number. Hardly anything you'd refer to as a 'roaring business'.

21 we know about and the ones in afghanistan?

but overall I would have to say indian Muslims by and large are so economically and socially downtrodden that going abroad to fight is hardly top of their list.

 

[Varun]

21 we know about and the ones in afghanistan?

It's a similar number:

22 Missing Keralites Have Reached ISIS's Bastion In Afghanistan: NIA Sources

https://www.ndtv.com/kerala-news/22...ss-bastion-in-afghanistan-nia-sources-1458610

but overall I would have to say indian Muslims by and large are so economically and socially downtrodden that going abroad to fight is hardly top of their list.

Why do you presume they want to fight at all? They just want to get on with their lives like the rest of us.

 

[rahulrulezz]

Probably relevant that I post this video as an extension to your post:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/723FU6w6OjE" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

38:45 is an interesting chat.

Awesome video!!

 

[cricketjoshila]

There was one time when such statements would have caused Indian governments to worry about the reaction of the hundered million muslims in India. Pretty sure that time hasn't changed and Modi is also worried about how the muslims he is ruling over will recieve such statements when an outisder speaks like this in their own home.

Can you tell me if Muslims by and large around the world not worried by rise of radical islam?

 

[cricketjoshila]

If you understand a little international relations, its not a politically correct statement to make when you come to the home of 120 million muslims. He could have said "religious" extremism but no, he singled out muslims. I wonder how he felt confident enough to say this in presence of Indian PM who will surely be worried about how muslims perceive this statement from an ISRAELI PM.

Isnt the world talking about radical islamic extremism? From New York to London to Paris to Belgium to Istanbul to Moscow to Kabul to Peshawar to Mumbai to Sydney, terror attacks happened in the name of Islam. Various muslim leaders have condemned this radical islamic extremism. There is nothing wrong in doing so.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Isnt the world talking about radical islamic extremism? From New York to London to Paris to Belgium to Istanbul to Moscow to Kabul to Peshawar to Mumbai to Sydney, terror attacks happened in the name of Islam. Various muslim leaders have condemned this radical islamic extremism. There is nothing wrong in doing so.

Radical Islamic extremism is counter-productive, I also, along with the rest of the world condemn it. Islamic countries need to follow the lead of countries like Israel and India, build a religious foundation inside a secular structure. Or a secular foundation inside a religious structure, I am not really sure which is which.

But if we take the Zionist project Israel, and the BJP Hindutva philosophy for India as examples, it may be the way to go.

 

[rahulrulezz]

Radical Islamic extremism is counter-productive, I also, along with the rest of the world condemn it. Islamic countries need to follow the lead of countries like Israel and India, build a religious foundation inside a secular structure. Or a secular foundation inside a religious structure, I am not really sure which is which.

But if we take the Zionist project Israel, and the BJP Hindutva philosophy for India as examples, it may be the way to go.

Funny enough, they need to secular first. Then only they can build religious foundation inside or outside, whatever floats in your boat. Problem is, Islamic countries only seems to have religious foundation only.

 

[Madplayer]

Can you tell me if Muslims by and large around the world not worried by rise of radical islam?

Muslims in India are more worried about the rise of radical hinduism.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Radical Islamic extremism is counter-productive, I also, along with the rest of the world condemn it. Islamic countries need to follow the lead of countries like Israel and India, build a religious foundation inside a secular structure. Or a secular foundation inside a religious structure, I am not really sure which is which.

But if we take the Zionist project Israel, and the BJP Hindutva philosophy for India as examples, it may be the way to go.

Neither the Zionists nor the Hindutvavadis are involved in terror incidents killing 1000s around the world. No one will care what Islamic nations do in their country if 1000s had not died in incidents done in the name of Islam in various countries around the world.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Muslims in India are more worried about the rise of radical hinduism.

Which if it exists is miniscule in comparision to radical islam.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Muslims in India are more worried about the rise of radical hinduism.

Is radical hinduism on the rise? Why was it not rising for all these decades, especially given the bloodshed through which the country was formed?

 

[Madplayer]

Isnt the world talking about radical islamic extremism? From New York to London to Paris to Belgium to Istanbul to Moscow to Kabul to Peshawar to Mumbai to Sydney, terror attacks happened in the name of Islam. Various muslim leaders have condemned this radical islamic extremism. There is nothing wrong in doing so.

They dissociate from any form or justification of terrorism is what they do. They generally choose their words carefully to not use terrorism/extremism alongside Islam.

I hope PM Modi comes out in support of muslims and says some good words for them. That should shut Netanyahu's mouth. #GoModi

 

[CricketCartoons]

Which if it exists is miniscule in comparision to radical islam.

Love it when minuscule is spelt as miniscule. Puts a dagger in the hearts of the english grammer snobs.

 

[Madplayer]

Which if it exists is miniscule in comparision to radical islam.

Its not miniscule in India, the most relevant country to us.

 

[Madplayer]

Is radical hinduism on the rise? Why was it not rising for all these decades, especially given the bloodshed through which the country was formed?

Maybe because of Initial euphoria post independence. Maybe.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They dissociate from any form or justification of terrorism is what they do. They generally choose their words carefully to not use terrorism/extremism alongside Islam.

I hope PM Modi comes out in support of muslims and says some good words for them. That should shut Netanyahu's mouth. #GoModi

Indian Muslims are Indians, As Indians we will stand by them againist any external force.

 

[Madplayer]

Indian Muslims are Indians, As Indians we will stand by them againist any external force.

Very good. I expected this. Long may this unity continue.

 

[Rafa]

Indian Muslims are Indians, As Indians we will stand by them againist any external force.

Muslims are Muslims first then come bogus identities like Indian, Sri Lankan, Nepali. Any Muslim in India would care much more about Islam than some Unnatural Unity of various Indian States and Man written Indian Constitution.

Quran is the message of God , while Indian Constitution is only a worthless paper. It's India today tomorrow it could be some other country and it's constitution makes no difference really.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Maybe because of Initial euphoria post independence. Maybe.

There were riots earlier too, but there was no media or internet to spread the news, so it was localized. Thanks to media, now a conflict in assam can have impact in kerala.

Personally I have had good experiences with muslims, in fact have been helped by muslim friends during my most testing phase in life. But when I come online and see hindu haters saying bad things about my community, I turn anti muslim and start giving back more hatred.

 

[kaayal]

Muslims are Muslims first then come bogus identities like Indian, Sri Lankan, Nepali. Any Muslim in India would care much more about Islam than some Unnatural Unity of various Indian States and Man written Indian Constitution.

Quran is the message of God , while Indian Constitution is only a worthless paper. It's India today tomorrow it could be some other country and it's constitution makes no difference really.

May be for Pakistani's their "constitution is only a worthless paper", but for us Indians it's much more than that. If we could stay together for 70 years despite our differences, then that indicates how strong our constitution is and the people's faith on our democracy. Being a Pakistani, you will never understand this. Leave it.

 

[CricketCartoons]

May be for Pakistani's their "constitution is only a worthless paper", but for us Indians it's much more than that. If we could stay together for 70 years despite our differences, then that indicates how strong our constitution is and the people's faith on our democracy. Being a Pakistani, you will never understand this. Leave it.

It is good to respect the constitution, but it is subject to change on the whims of the elected govt. Indian constitution is one of the worst in the world. Copied from many countries constitutions. Made by lawyers for lawyers. No fundamental rights. Every so called fundamental right is subject to terms and conditions. The cow vigilantism and UCC have its source in this so called great constitution.

 

[Pakistanian]

Once Kashmir secedes from India then india will be an offical Hindu republic.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Ironic coming from leaders who support radical/extremist Judaism and radical/extremist Hinduism.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Muslims are Muslims first then come bogus identities like Indian, Sri Lankan, Nepali. Any Muslim in India would care much more about Islam than some Unnatural Unity of various Indian States and Man written Indian Constitution.

Quran is the message of God , while Indian Constitution is only a worthless paper. It's India today tomorrow it could be some other country and it's constitution makes no difference really.

Speak for yourself. Most Indian muslims associate themselves as Indian first.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Once Kashmir secedes from India then india will be an offical Hindu republic.

And let say that happens, why is it a problem to neighbours? I dont see India’s so called extemists going to mosque and blowing themselves up or killing innocent in the name of Bhagwan. Some BJP leaders are extemists in their views not denying that, however there is very little they can do. Last thing Indian govt want is a civil war breaking out and damaging the economic and social progress that have made in last two decades. Im certain that there will never be extremisim in India has some of Pakistani folks are potraying.

Lastly, its our country and our rules, why does it annoy an average Pakistani? BJP aren’t forcing this hindu extremisim on Pakistani soil, no?

Some of you guys worry alot about minorities in India, but hardly anyone speak up about the atrocities the minorities are facing in Pakistan. Time and time again i have observed that most muslims only show their concerns towards fellow muslim( nothing wrong) but conviniently ignores the suffering of other religion. I wonder if their so called humanity is only limit till muslim brotherhood..

 

[KingKhanWC]

Speak for yourself. Most Indian muslims associate themselves as Indian first.

1. We dont even know if you're an Indian Muslim.

2. Do you have any genuine data to back this up or do you speak on behalf of most Indian Muslims?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Muslims are Muslims first then come bogus identities like Indian, Sri Lankan, Nepali. Any Muslim in India would care much more about Islam than some Unnatural Unity of various Indian States and Man written Indian Constitution.

Quran is the message of God , while Indian Constitution is only a worthless paper. It's India today tomorrow it could be some other country and it's constitution makes no difference really.

What makes no difference is your opinion on Indian muslims and what they will do.

They proudly stood by their country and defended it with their blood so take your opinions and keep it in your country. Ayub Khan made the same assumption as you and realised his mistake.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Speak for yourself. Most Indian muslims associate themselves as Indian first.

Its not Indian first or muslim first, there is no first and second here.

 

[CanadianG00se]

1. We dont even know if you're an Indian Muslim.

2. Do you have any genuine data to back this up or do you speak on behalf of most Indian Muslims?

1) I dont care if you dont think im Indian muslim. Im not here to prove my identity to anyone.

2) Grew up in India and was volunteer for Muslim charity organisation and very well can speak what i observed all my life in India. Im in better position to pass judgement than you.
Now do you have any 1st hand experience or any valid data to claim that Indian muslims arent partriotic Indians?

Lastly, worry about minorities in Pakistan and leave us Indian muslims alone

 

[CanadianG00se]

Its not Indian first or muslim first, there is no first and second here.

It was just a counter argument to fellow poster who claims muslim are muslim first.

 

[KingKhanWC]

1) I dont care if you dont think im Indian muslim. Im not here to prove my identity to anyone.

2) Grew up in India and was volunteer for Muslim charity organisation and very well can speak what i observed all my life in India. Im in better position to pass judgement than you.
Now do you have any 1st hand experience or any valid data to claim that Indian muslims arent partriotic Indians?

Lastly, worry about minorities in Pakistan and leave us Indian muslims alone

1. I dont believe you are , just my opinion.

2. lol. You was a volunteer in a charity so this means you can speak on behalf of near 200 people. Im not the one making absurd claims. If any Muslim sees more importance of their nationality over their faith, they need to read their holy book again.

I discuss the topic duh.

 

[CanadianG00se]

1. I dont believe you are , just my opinion.

2. lol. You was a volunteer in a charity so this means you can speak on behalf of near 200 people. Im not the one making absurd claims. If any Muslim sees more importance of their nationality over their faith, they need to read their holy book again.

I discuss the topic duh.

1) Again IDRC what you believe

2)You seemed to know more about us Indian muslims than we do ourselves. Im patriotic Indian as well as proud muslim. One doesnt overshadows the other.

Like i said, do you have any data to back your claim or just spouting garbage as always?

 

[KingKhanWC]

1) Again IDRC what you believe

2)You seemed to know more about us Indian muslims than we do ourselves. Im patriotic Indian as well as proud muslim. One doesnt overshadows the other.

Like i said, do you have any data to back your claim or just spouting garbage as always?

lol. You've been on this forum a few months and always defend radical Hinduism, sure India needs more Muslims like you.

What claim have a I made to you?

 

[R3verse Swing]

Well there's a surprise. Nethanyahu says Israel and India both face threat from radical Islam, but India is best chums with Iran and is supporting Afghanistan too.

L to the O to the L!

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Probably relevant that I post this video as an extension to your post:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/723FU6w6OjE" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

38:45 is an interesting chat.

Netanyahu, Modi and an Ahmadiya Muslim leader all in the same frame - that must have triggered quite a few people in certain parts of the world .

 

[R3verse Swing]

Neither the Zionists[ nor the Hindutvavadis are involved in terror incidents killing 1000s around the world. No one will care what Islamic nations do in their country if 1000s had not died in incidents done in the name of Islam in various countries around the world.

Have you heard of the Rothschilds? Their motto is to win by deception.

Islamic terror as we know it today didn't exist before 1969. Go figure what changed since.

I can assure you the Americans do care about what goes on in Islamic nations, long before you can imagine. Why did the USA intervene when Iraq invaded Kuwait? Or when Gaddafi was working on the Islamic Dinar? Why do the Americans care about Syria? Or Hussein attacking the Kurds? Why did USA government overturn a democratically elected leader in Iran and install the Shah?

Look up Operation Ajax as a starting point, then CIA training Bin Laden, and the link is to the Rothschild Zionist agenda.

Though you are correct in a sense, the world doesn't care about what goes on in India.

 

[Test champion]

Once Kashmir secedes from India then india will be an offical Hindu republic.

Kashmir is intrigal part of India . No body in world change that .Ur country tried 4 time already and how we defeated all knew that.

 

[www787]

Kashmir is intrigal part of India . No body in world change that .Ur country tried 4 time already and how we defeated all knew that.

Never say never because nothing is impossible.

 

[Saeed]

Kashmir is intrigal part of India . No body in world change that .Ur country tried 4 time already and how we defeated all knew that.

BJP is doing a great job of making everyone feel secure in India. All groups especially Kashmiris contribute to India’s greatness and they know they are nothing without India. Few years under Pk’s occupation and they would have been begging us to take them back.

 

[Test champion]

Never say never because nothing is impossible.

Some things are universal truth ,its one of them .

 

[Saeed]

Some things are universal truth ,its one of them .

This reminds me of that science thing, universal law of gravitation. Just like two masses are attracted to each other, Kashmir and India are attracted to each other according to universal truth.

 

[PakLFC]

If Israel and India would stop killing innocents Muslim's then radicals would leave them alone as well.

 

[Test champion]

This reminds me of that science thing, universal law of gravitation. Just like two masses are attracted to each other, Kashmir and India are attracted to each other according to universal truth.

If any Pak friends tell me that indian J&k is less dovelep than Pak occupied Kashmir I might change my thinking but I know they don't have answer for that..

 

[Saeed]

If any Pak friends tell me that indian J&k is less dovelep than Pak occupied Kashmir I might change my thinking but I know they don't have answer for that..

I know right. They expect people to change their thinking when they cannot even develop the part of Kashmir they control. In addition to development, many Kashmiris from POK don’t have the privilege to live under curfew under in which almost 15,000 people got injured. http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/front-page/after-15000-injuries-govt-to-train-forces-in-pellet-guns/239453.html

 

[CricketCartoons]

Whenever I read the term radical islam, i visualize the great Donald Trump pinching an imaginary object in the air.

 

[MenInG]

no personal stuff pls

 

[sshakir411]

Also both have a government gag on their media unlike any other countries in the world.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Both countries find themselves in very similar situations and it might just be the time to activate Project Hinjew. Those who know, know.

 

[big_gamer007]

Both countries find themselves in very similar situations and it might just be the time to activate Project Hinjew. Those who know, know.

Man you got real free time digging up threads from 6 years ago to troll.
Gotta admire your dedication towards your craft