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Iran - Israel Hostilities Watch (2025)

There is a chance of ceasefire if these hypersonic carry on.

But israel is begging now for usa intervention

And if that happens it's over for the iranians . Unless somehow china and Russia try to stop them but both these countries don't want to project on world stage conflicts .

Russians are screwed themselves and most of their weapons are now junk and scrap from old stocks .
 
Israel can bomb a few buildings here and there every day... Iran can do the same

Eventually both Israeli drone assets in Iran will run out and likewise Iranian missile stockpiles. Already Israel is having to carrying out car bombs in Tehran to keep up the mayhem. The airforce doesn't have to enter Iranian territory, it can release missiles from outside the Iranian border, it just needs to be close enough to it. The question is can Iran sustain the missile barrage and for how long.
 
The biggest mistake iranians made is not developing a nuke

And number 2 not investing In a solid airforce or develop their own 5th generation aircraft with a Russian engine.


If bankrupt corrupt pakistan in conflict for decades against 2 treacherous foes indian and afghanis could do this it's embarrassing for the iranians because technically they had the scientists and engineers , resources from their oil and gas to pull it off
 
Key live updates:

The conflict between Iran and Israel has intensified dramatically, with Iran launching another wave of missile attacks on Israeli cities including Tel Aviv and Haifa, killing at least eight people and injuring dozens. These strikes came in retaliation to Israeli bombings that targeted Tehran and other strategic locations, leaving over 220 people dead in Iran, many of them civilians. Among the casualties were senior IRGC officials.

Iran’s President has urged national unity amid the devastation, while Israel’s Defence Minister issued threats towards Tehran. One Iranian missile reportedly landed near a US embassy in Tel Aviv, escalating international concerns. Meanwhile, Iran's parliament is drafting legislation to withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, signalling a potential shift in global nuclear diplomacy.

On the ground, the situation in Gaza is also worsening, as Israeli operations intensify with heavy bombardment aimed at obliterating remaining residential infrastructure. Over 60 percent of Gaza's buildings have been destroyed, further displacing civilians. Analysts warn that the broader Israel-Iran conflict risks spilling over into a regional crisis, with energy infrastructure now becoming strategic targets.

The G7 summit is prioritising this confrontation, with leaders calling for de-escalation while reiterating Israel’s right to defend itself. Despite growing anger in Iran, experts suggest the country remains isolated internationally and lacks the strategic alliances enjoyed by Israel. Iran has promised to pursue all diplomatic options but continues to retaliate amid ongoing attacks.

Source: Al Jazeera
 
From your reply, I am assume you are a Pakistani Shia.
Funnily enough, I'm not a Shia but a staunch secularist and detest theocracy ! I don't even have any Shia friends. The reason why I feel so strongly is Iran has so blatantly been a victim of injustice and double standards.

Iran signed an agreement and abided by its terms only for America to discard it like chewing gum while its puppet Israel doesn't even declare its nuclear programme and acts with impunity.
The state of Pakistan has never sponsored any groups to Kill Iranians, or collude with an enemy country to actively create a terror network within Iran. Everyone knows that the Indian network has been operating out of Iran with their full blessing to foment trouble and kill Pakistanis on mass. Lest we forget the horrific train attack not so long ago.
For every allegation Pakistan levels at Iran, similar counter-allegations are made by Iran against Pakistan. If we define sponsoring as leniency towards Baloch militants then both governments are equally guilty.

Iran can point out their 10 troops who were killed by Jaish al-Adl last April, or the 27 soldiers killed in Feb 2019.
Parachinar is/was a fertile recruiting ground for Iran to find paid Pakistani Shia mercenaries to kill sunnis on mass in Iraq and particularly Syria. Those from parachinar are mass murdering genocidal MFs. That entire town should be investigated for crimes against humanity and ask Iran to take the entire populace of the area to Iran. They are a clear threat to Pakistan's national security.
No different from the Sunnis the Pakistani state sponsored to fight in Afghanistan from the 1980s onwards. Some of them committed awful abuses against Afghan minorities.

Parachinar was targeted for sectarian attacks long before the Iraq and Syria war. Look, all sectarian violence is an abomination. However Iran-backed militias helped defeat the ISIS scum.
The terms of the gas deal was not great and then you have the spectre of American sanctions. Why should Pakistan go out on a limb for Iran.
What were these unjust terms ? If the gas deal was unjust, why did we agree to it ?

Pakistan canot refuse the opportunity of Iranian gas that would be cheaper than foreign oil, and help supply our energy needs for the next 25 years, due to fear of American sanctions. Many countries are still purchasing Russian energy post-Ukraine.
Iran much like India, when the crunch came has been found wanting. Everyday, someone from their top leadership gets killed by Israel and they seem so powerless to stop it.

If you read my posts, I have said that pre revolution Iran was a great friend of Pakistan. Post revolution it is a different beast.

Now that they are under the pump, they want to be friends of Pakistan and want to create a "Muslim" army....... Why should Pakistan put its neck on the line for them? When all they been doing is to help Indian and now the TTP to create a new terrifying war front with terrorists using drones.
Brother whatever differences there are with Iran are easily manageable with dialogue. As per the link I previously posted, both governments have begun cooperating against Baloch militancy.

Pakistanis, and frankly the entire world, should put aside their differences with Iran, and rally behind their people in their darkest hour against this rabid dog called Israel led by this corrupt, warmongering wannabe fascist.
 

Very soon Pakistan will allow its bases too as soon as USA joins the war. Your truely predicted it 2 days ago and rightly so. There is a reason Trump supported Syrian protestors and saved Pakistan against India.
Syria is unable to do anything, it doesn't have the capacity to stop Israel. This is just good old war psyop.

As far as Pakistan is concerned. No mate. They will sit it out.
 
Syria is unable to do anything, it doesn't have the capacity to stop Israel. This is just good old war psyop.

As far as Pakistan is concerned. No mate. They will sit it out.
US don’t need Pakistan based anyways. It won’t make any difference

Indians are just hurt that Pakistan military have worked a good working relationship with US military
 
The big question is how many of these hypersonic missiles they have in stock. Professor Marandi says they have thousands of missiles underground, but it's unclear how many are ballistic and how many are hypersonic.

Iran is using a few each night along with the ballistic missiles(mainly old ones). It has a hundreds of hypersonic but Israel is trying to locate and destroy them, which is unlikley. Even if they do ,Russia and China will supply them. If USA can supply Ukraine and Taiwan, Russia and China will be egger to payback.
 
US don’t need Pakistan based anyways. It won’t make any difference

Indians are just hurt that Pakistan military have worked a good working relationship with US military
I know. They conflate everything with Pakistan now, such is their mental disintegration after the war.
 
Not a great call was it Bhaijaan?

There is a difference between precision strikes and raining missiles on civilians.
Israel targeted at strategic bases and high profile scientists, military officers and nailed it. Iran just trying to destroy Tel Aviv and attracting the wrath of the collective Wes. Please hold your horses we will be here a long time. Do you really think Iran is going to stop itself from being turned into the next Iraq? Israel laid the trap and Iran has fallen right into it.
 
Iran is using a few each night along with the ballistic missiles(mainly old ones). It has a hundreds of hypersonic but Israel is trying to locate and destroy them, which is unlikley. Even if they do ,Russia and China will supply them. If USA can supply Ukraine and Taiwan, Russia and China will be egger to payback.
This is a possibility but question is how will they do it. Have you noticed Russia and Iran got hit by similar tactics within weeks of each other.
 
This is a possibility but question is how will they do it. Have you noticed Russia and Iran got hit by similar tactics within weeks of each other.

Mossad has been in Ukraine since the start, along with MI6 and CIA so tactics will resemble.

Russia will deliver via land through Azerbaijan and China will deliver by land via Pakistan both bordering Iran. Its too risky to deliver via air.

I dont think they will need them imo.

Zionists are weak people, they do not have the resolve of the Palestinians, only after 3 days they are trembling and crying like little girls. 3 or 4 more nights of this and they will want a ceasefire.
 
There is a difference between precision strikes and raining missiles on civilians.
Israel targeted at strategic bases and high profile scientists, military officers and nailed it. Iran just trying to destroy Tel Aviv and attracting the wrath of the collective Wes. Please hold your horses we will be here a long time. Do you really think Iran is going to stop itself from being turned into the next Iraq? Israel laid the trap and Iran has fallen right into it.
The next Iraq?

Iraq didn’t turn NY into rubble did they?

Konsi Bollywood script parh rahe ho Bhaijaan?
 
There is a difference between precision strikes and raining missiles on civilians.
Israel targeted at strategic bases and high profile scientists, military officers and nailed it. Iran just trying to destroy Tel Aviv and attracting the wrath of the collective Wes. Please hold your horses we will be here a long time. Do you really think Iran is going to stop itself from being turned into the next Iraq? Israel laid the trap and Iran has fallen right into it.
Iran is largely Shia, it will not go the way of Iraq mate. Iranians will not turn on each other you can rule that out. It is your Indian delusions going off again in your head.

Israel is relying on internal drone network within Iran mate. It will run out at some point. Then the payload of the drones is not that great, the larger payload is from missiles launched from the jets outside the borders. The Iranian missiles on average have greater payload and thats why they are causing more damage.
 
People like Rajdeep believe Boris, Rishi, Suella and Preeti represent the complete British sentiment. They fail to understand the polarisation of UK and in particular London.

I guess he has no clue about the legions of English football hooligan fans who chant ‘free Palestine’ or ‘F Israel’.

He doesn’t understand what it means to be English/British. Never will.

The type of British people Rajdeep & co are cheerleading are the same ones who would turn their ire on the curry munchers ( British expression) given the slightest shift of official stance against India. They wouldn't need much encouraging despite all the bootlicking.
 
Seems like only Brit Pakistanis like @Rana is supporting this extremist regime of Iran. All of that living in comforts of UK. Here is what Brit Iranians have to say:

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‘Not our war’ – Iranians in Britain pray for downfall of regime​


Tortured daily by captors who threatened to rape his daughter, Mass still remembers the 39 brutal days he spent in an Iranian jail cell.

Christian convert “Mass”, who didn’t want to give his full name, was already living dangerously as a journalist under the Islamic Republic regime when he accused the Sept 11 attackers of starting “the third world war”.

He was arrested and thrown in jail.

“It was 39 days but it was non-stop. Two or three people would come into my cell. They would punch me, they would torture me,” the 65-year-old said. He would go on to require four years of treatment for PTSD.

Mass is one of many living in exile – unable to return to his home country for fear of the risk it would pose to his life – who hope the scenes of missiles being traded between the Islamic Republic and Israel could lead to the fall of the “Mullah” regime.

Speaking from his home in London, he said he was initially concerned about the strikes, but soon realised it could actually spell the beginning of the end of his exile in Britain.

He added: “Thinking of my people in that situation, it was very sad news. But later on I came to see it as good news. I firmly believe that given the current pressure from Israel and the international community, the continuation of the regime is no longer possible.”

Now he fears those upholding Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s regime will cause “considerable damage” to their own people, by hunting down dissidents who criticise it on social media, before they are displaced.


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This "extremist regime of Iran" is the reason why the Middle East isn't completely overrun by ISIS headchopping scum.

Iran has one of the highest rates of female participation in university and female STEM graduates in the region.

And until a few years ago, Iran also subsidised free contraception in face of some religious opposition. They are a model for countries like India and Pakistan where population growth is out of control.
 
This "extremist regime of Iran" is the reason why the Middle East isn't completely overrun by ISIS headchopping scum.

Iran has one of the highest rates of female participation in university and female STEM graduates in the region.

And until a few years ago, Iran also subsidised free contraception in face of some religious opposition. They are a model for countries like India and Pakistan where population growth is out of control.

Iran would do very well as a democracy. Better than Turkey.

When the Ayatollah first returned in 1979, he had promised democracy in interviews instead of a authoritarian rule .. but they lied and cruelly turned the country into a theocracy.
 
How is that India’s problem though?
It clearly is. You have a problem with it. Like you have a problem with Pakistan’s relation to China as well.

What did Victor Gao tell you? It’s not your problem. Stay out of it.
 
It clearly is. You have a problem with it. Like you have a problem with Pakistan’s relation to China as well.

What did Victor Gao tell you? It’s not your problem. Stay out of it.
Bro you are asking the question and then answering yourself. I would suggest you to calm down a bit.

You have done enough damage already brother. Have a glass of water.

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Bro you are asking the question and then answering yourself. I would suggest you to calm down a bit.

You have done enough damage already brother. Have a glass of water.

:kp
So you admit India has a problem with something that doesn’t concern them at all?
 
Iran would do very well as a democracy. Better than Turkey.

When the Ayatollah first returned in 1979, he had promised democracy in interviews instead of a authoritarian rule .. but they lied and cruelly turned the country into a theocracy.
They had a democracy before the Shah, I wonder who overthrew it and paved the way for generations of authoritarian rule.
 

Very soon Pakistan will allow its bases too as soon as USA joins the war. Your truely predicted it 2 days ago and rightly so. There is a reason Trump supported Syrian protestors and saved Pakistan against India.

Pakistan has some puppets but not to the extent they will help USA to attack Iran. Only an idiot would suggest this.

Chinese missiles are going into Iran via Pakistan right now.
 
The next Iraq?

Iraq didn’t turn NY into rubble did they?

Konsi Bollywood script parh rahe ho Bhaijaan?

Iran is largely Shia, it will not go the way of Iraq mate. Iranians will not turn on each other you can rule that out. It is your Indian delusions going off again in your head.

Israel is relying on internal drone network within Iran mate. It will run out at some point. Then the payload of the drones is not that great, the larger payload is from missiles launched from the jets outside the borders. The Iranian missiles on average have greater payload and thats why they are causing more damage.

Pakistani people's way of analyzing wars is very immature and a direct result of the propaganda fed commentary you are used to listen to for decades. Wars are about achieving desired objectives. Iran is simply falling into the Western trap here. You have Pakistanis dancing with joy at the sight of Iran managing a few strikes on Tel Aviv. The joy will be short lived once the next round of heavier retaliations are made by Israel.

Very recently, you must remember Pakistan responded to strikes on terror bases with drones. India intercepted all of them and blew away 11 military bases in retaliation within half an hour with BrahMos strikes leading to a ceasefire demand by Pakistan in no time.
 
They had a democracy before the Shah, I wonder who overthrew it and paved the way for generations of authoritarian rule.

That wasn't nice.

I think Obama had publicly apologized for that awful bit of history, when he was president.
 
I doubt its via Pakistan, it will be through Afghanistan through Herat area

Possibly if China accepts it going through Taliban territory.


Iran refuses ceasefire, very interesting move if true. Imo Iran should do so much damage to Zionist bases, depots and other military installations their Gaza dreams become distant.
 
We cannot accept the situation in Iran

Yossi Beilin, Israel’s minister of justice between 1999 and 2001, says Netanyahu made “a huge mistake” by inviting far-right “lunatics” into his government.

“They should’ve never been part of the government. They represent a small proportion of the Israeli public opinion. It’s very problematic,” Beilin told Al Jazeera.

“Netanyahu has made huge mistakes in the last years, and one of them was convincing Trump to withdraw from the [nuclear] agreement with Iran.”

He added, however, “the Iranian threat is a real threat”.

“In the past, we were friendly countries. Since 1979, we became the devil for whatever reason – because they hate the Jews and they want us to disappear. They don’t want to negotiate with us. This is the view of the enemy that you cannot tolerate. We cannot accept the situation in Iran,” Beilin said.

Source: Al Jazeera
 
It clearly is. You have a problem with it. Like you have a problem with Pakistan’s relation to China as well.

What did Victor Gao tell you? It’s not your problem. Stay out of it.

I don't know about @Rajdeep but I am not a member of India's ruling party to have any influence on international relations.

I'm a random ghoul on the internet, just like you 😄
 
I don't know about @Rajdeep but I am not a member of India's ruling party to have any influence on international relations.

I'm a random ghoul on the internet, just like you 😄
And I am not even an Indian citizen and never voted in Indian election

:rp
 

'They're weak': Israelis back conflict with Iran in neighbourhood struck by missile​


Bat Yam, just south of Tel Aviv, has long been a stronghold of support for Israel's right-wing governing coalition.

In the early hours of Sunday morning, an Iranian missile struck a 10-storey block of flats here, killing at least eight people and trapping dozens more under thick layers of rubble.

Despite the severe damage, locals strongly back Israel's attack on Iran, which began on Friday and has targeted nuclear facilities, missile sites, air defences, an airport and other infrastructure as well as nuclear and military personnel.

"It needed to be done," says Veronica Osipchik, 33, who lives about 200m (321ft) from the strike site. "But we didn't expect it to affect us like this."

Ms Osipchik had the windows and shutters of her apartment completely blown through. Almost every building in the vicinity suffered similar damage.

"We were in shock," she said, sat on a camping chair alongside a suitcase packed with food and toiletries.

The ballistic missiles that caused the damage in Bat Yam are far more powerful than the rockets fired by Hamas and Hezbollah over the past year and half. Those are mostly intercepted by Israel's sophisticated air defence system.

The first of those trapped under rubble were pulled out within hours. As of late Sunday, at least three people remained unaccounted for. "I saw fear in their eyes," said rescue paramedic Ori Lazarovich. "People came out all grey, covered in soot and ash and debris."

Avi, a 68-year old who did not want to give his surname, was born and raised in Bat Yam. "We need to keep hitting [Iran]" he says. "Of course we have to keep going. Otherwise, they'll drop an atomic bomb on us."

"They're weak. We're much stronger," he adds. "Israel is number one in the world."

Emil Mahmudov, 18, agreed: "We should have done this sooner. That's what most Israelis think."

Israel's justification for its attack on Iran is to stop its nuclear programme. For well over a decade, successive governments have sounded the alarm about the Iranian regime gaining nuclear weapons - something Iran denies seeking.

Even as Netanyahu has come under fire within Israel for the state of the war in Gaza, his chief political rivals - Benny Gantz, Avigdor Lieberman and Yair Lapid - have all expressed support for attacking Iran.

Professor Yossi Mekelberg, of the Middle East Programme at Chatham House, says there has "always been support to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear military capabilities".

But, he says, "this is much bigger than fighting Hamas in Gaza, even Hezbollah in Lebanon, or a very limited direct confrontation with Iran."

"This is evolving into a full-blown war. And there is fatigue in Israel after 20 months of war."

"If there are more casualties, if people are spending a long time in shelters, and if it becomes, again, another never-ending war," then support, he says, could erode.

By mid-afternoon on Sunday, Israel's far-right national security minister Itamar Ben Gvir - who was recently sanctioned by the UK government for "inciting violence against Palestinians" - arrived in Bat Yam to meet mourners.

Flanked by a cohort of armed security personnel, he shook hands with shop owners along a street where many had their windows blown through by the shock of the blast.

One, who did not want to give his name, was sat on a plastic chair outside his bakery, which he'd run for 29 years. He said he was there to prevent looting.

Does he support opening a new front against Iran? "Of course," he says, waving his hands. "What kind of question is that?"

Netanyahu also visited Bat Yam on Sunday, to chants of "Bibi, King of Israel" - a play on a popular song about the Biblical warrior King David that many Jewish children learn in school.

Hours later, in an evening address, he mourned the dead, telling the nation: "This is a difficult day. I told you, there will be difficult days."

Even with broad support for the conflict, if it continues to escalate - and civilian deaths continue to rise - there will be a question over how many difficult days the Israeli public will tolerate.

Source: BBC
 
They had a democracy before the Shah, I wonder who overthrew it and paved the way for generations of authoritarian rule.
The US of A and I beleive the head of CIA at the time bragged that it cost them only $5000.00
 
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