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Wicketkeeper batsman Kamran Akmal has expressed his disbelief at being overlooked for the five-match ODI series against Australia, despite a phenomenal run with the bat in the ongoing domestic season.

Pakistan Cricket Board’s (PCB) selectors dropped fast-bowler Sohail Khan and leg-spinner Yasir Shah, while reposing confidence on the team’s current batting line-up, overlooking the seasoned wicketkeeper-batsman.

“It’s very shocking for me to not see my name in the team,” Kamran told The Express Tribune. “I was confident of my selection after the PCB took my passport to register for an Australian visa and I am very disheartened over the snub.”

The veteran feels he has done everything he could to deserve a place in the side. “A player can only perform to force his way into the team again,” he said. “I have performed in all formats of the domestic season and my form is for everyone to see. I want to ask the selection committee and team management what else I need to do to return to the national team?”

Kamran, who last represented Pakistan in the World T20 in Bangladesh a couple of years ago, was under consideration for the ODI series due to his brilliant run at the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy (QAT) and National One-Day Cup.

The 34-year-old top-scored in QAT with 1,035 runs and made five centuries, scoring at an average of almost 80. He is also among the highest runs scorer in the ongoing National One Day Cup, amassing 361 runs at an average of over 51.

Kamran’s inclusion was advocated strongly by the selection committee headed by former captain Inzamamul Haq but the team management, led by head coach Mickey Arthur, opposed his selection.

“If the selection committee doesn’t have the power, then it should not be criticised for the side’s failures and only the team management should be held responsible,” he said.

Kamran, who has played 53 Tests and 154 ODIs for Pakistan, said he would continue to fight for his slot in the national team. “I am not stopping here. I would continue the hard work until it pays off,” he said.
 
Asif pretty much confirmed in his interview that day that although the PCB has taken Kamran's passport, he will not be selected.

He has been dealt with harshly. Deserves to be selected in all three squads.

However, I am pretty confident he will get picked for the WI tour after we get smashed in the Limited Overs.
 
He had a lot of chances at international level and his performances were generally quite poor. He never seemed to learn much, often getting dismissed early in his innings driving the ball outside off stump.

And he talks as though he is the only one getting runs in domestic cricket. He might be the most vocal, but there are others scoring runs with better averages:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...ost_runs_career.html?id=11467;type=tournament
 
Asif pretty much confirmed in his interview that day that although the PCB has taken Kamran's passport, he will not be selected.

He has been dealt with harshly. Deserves to be selected in all three squads.

However, I am pretty confident he will get picked for the WI tour after we get smashed in the Limited Overs.

He averages 26 in his career.

What's so harsh about being overlooked because of that.

We criticize Afridi for averaging 23 as an all rounder with the bat, yet we should accept Kamran as a batsmen with an average of 26 is not much better either.

I don't care if his cut shot is better than Vivian Richards.

His stats show a sorry picture and you almost know for sure if he is given a chance he will keep up his past average.

I just don't understand how can there be such desperate support for the most overrated cricketer in the history of cricket.
 
Loool judging by how Umar Gul got selected for the English Tour ODIs out of nowhere, A Kamran Akmal was on the cards... its a surprise.. however the rule of only one Akmal in the side applies here too.. we know who that is :)

His cousin ala Babar Kohli Azam is the only one who ate his spot up in this case.. he is our one down batsman instead of Kamran
 
You will note that on age grounds I oppose recalling 32 year old Salman Butt to the Test side now that the Australia tour is done.

For the same reason, why go back to a 34 year old slogger?
 
Every cricket follower is shocked.

Kami has been doing great in domestics but that's not the only reason.

He's an excellent player of pace and can punish Aus bowlers.

On the other hand, tailenders like Malik can't even put bat on ball against pace!

Double standards and shooting yourself in the foot.
 
He averages 26 in his career.

What's so harsh about being overlooked because of that.

We criticize Afridi for averaging 23 as an all rounder with the bat, yet we should accept Kamran as a batsmen with an average of 26 is not much better either.

I don't care if his cut shot is better than Vivian Richards.

His stats show a sorry picture and you almost know for sure if he is given a chance he will keep up his past average.

I just don't understand how can there be such desperate support for the most overrated cricketer in the history of cricket.

Yes yes, but I would rather open with Kamran than Azhar.
 
Kamran can't play opener, since Captain 205* is opener, with Sharjeel 'Gordon Greenidge Hook shot' Khan.. That leaves only one spot for Kami to fill, and I would take a youngster over flab anyday for that spot..
 
Yes yes, but I would rather open with Kamran than Azhar.

You would open with Kamran and Sharjeel and be 20-2 in 2 overs in all games.

I think 6-0 in 2 is better than 20-2.
 
You would open with Kamran and Sharjeel and be 20-2 in 2 overs in all games.

I think 6-0 in 2 is better than 20-2.

We will lose either way, but I look forward to a contest between and ball, even if it lasts for less than 5 overs.

If you conserving wickets in the first 10-15 overs is what you like, then sure go ahead and open with Azhar and Sami, you will rarely be 20-2 after 2 overs.
 
Kamran can't play opener, since Captain 205* is opener, with Sharjeel 'Gordon Greenidge Hook shot' Khan.. That leaves only one spot for Kami to fill, and I would take a youngster over flab anyday for that spot..

It is confirmed now that Kamran won't return to ODIs as long as Azhar is the captain, because Azhar will not be in the team without the armband.
 
It is confirmed now that Kamran won't return to ODIs as long as Azhar is the captain, because Azhar will not be in the team without the armband.

and who is threat to his palce? 35 years old who avg 26 after 150+ games , brilliant.

these are score for Kami in T20I when he was recalled last time in 2014
8,31,9,0 and these matches were played in Bangladesh.

Azhar need to b out of ODI team if we need to be win matches/series on regular basis as his batting style is way too slow for today's game. but atleast bring in emerging young players , not 35 yr old tested failure
 
I don't think a player consistently being the leader of batting stats in last 3-5 years in our prominent domestic tournaments matters to anyone.
 
why is it so shocking? Theres many players in domestics who top the chart year after year and never get a chance

Kamran got more than a clear run for years on end in the team and the results were there for all to see

Hes had plenty of chances and he was awful

Time to move on
 
Age is the reason for his non selection but than why did you pick Irfan ?

Inzamam picked Irfan. Irfan couldn't finish the match with very tight hamstring and Mickey was seen fuming. Irfan was rightly sent back from England and asked to land straight in NCA.

Irfan didn't like it. Inzamam didn't like it. Irfan got fit again played selected domestic matches performed well and Inzamam forced his re-selection. Mickey compromised but Mickey did not compromise on Kamran.
 
Problem is Kamran is living in the country where there is no concept of accountability, no one is answerable to anyone. I have rarely seen any domestic player showing such a great consistent performance and not selected. But who can ask Inzi , why, he is busy doing his own things.

Yes its shocking and regrettable. Players perform in domestic cricket for a reason. Shame on selectors.
 
Problem is Kamran is living in the country where there is no concept of accountability, no one is answerable to anyone. I have rarely seen any domestic player showing such a great consistent performance and not selected. But who can ask Inzi , why, he is busy doing his own things.

Yes its shocking and regrettable. Players perform in domestic cricket for a reason. Shame on selectors.

Do you think it might be something to do with the fact that despite being given so many chances in ODI's he averages 26 as an opener?

The same as Tatenda Taibu of Zimbabwe and only 3 points above the terminal failure Shahid Afridi?

When should a player be considered tried and tested failure?

1 chance? 2 Chances? 3 Chances?

Or should he keep getting picked if he hits centuries in domestics even if he flops in internationals?

Where do you draw the line?
 
The standard kami dismissal: full pitched delivery on 6th offstump and wait for him to carve it to man near point boundary. Does not deserve selection and neither does junaid.
 
He is the definition of a TTF ( that shameless grin when he gets out in low 20s on a stupid shot)

I am honestly very surprised [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is advocating for him, maybe he is trolling

I am way more shocked at Junaid Kahn not selected tbrh
 
Glad team management have stuck to their guns on this one.

We won't be missing Kamran's drives straight to backward point.

Kamran averaged 17 at a SR of 73 in the ODI series in Australia last time out. Domestic performances are of less value when that same player has already been proven a failure in international cricket over a large sample size.
 
with all folk lores about his supreme first class he has a grannd average of 38 . why are people even considering this 34 year old ttf

the illusion him being aggressive is pproven wrong again and again as he folds under pressure
 
His performances in domestics in the last three years have been brilliant , should have been in the squad. On the other hand top performers with the ball like mohammad abbas should also be given chaces given our pace attack is cannon fodder at the moment.
 
He is the definition of a TTF ( that shameless grin when he gets out in low 20s on a stupid shot)

I am honestly very surprised [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is advocating for him, maybe he is trolling

I am way more shocked at Junaid Kahn not selected tbrh

Not advocating per se, however, sometimes you have to select players depending on the situation. He should have been selected as the backup WK for the Test series because Rizwan is not ready for Tests. In ODIs, he is a better option than Azhar as opener because of his ability to attack. He is in excellent form and we should have cashed on it.
 
Not advocating per se, however, sometimes you have to select players depending on the situation. He should have been selected as the backup WK for the Test series because Rizwan is not ready for Tests. In ODIs, he is a better option than Azhar as opener because of his ability to attack. He is in excellent form and we should have cashed on it.

HE IS 34. this is not the time to bring it ttfs. Despite him performing as well as his form we all know we are gonna be clean sweeped in ODI series in Aus. ( India had all top 7 much better than kami and they lost 4-1)

Even if he gets a 50 or 70 ish for us ( his max) , he would be clinging on to this team where he are barely getting the right youngsters like Imad, Babar and Rizwan and Nawaz

At least chota Akmal has age going for him

Kamran is terrible against spin too

( At max he could prob be used as temporary t20 opener with sharjeel where his 20 odd would be valuable )
 
I'm shocked he's shocked at his shock at not seeing his name on the teamsheet after a shocking last few years in Pakistani colours!
 
Do we even have a team ready for the 2019 WC? What I'm saying is that we keep recycling the same players over and over again in hope that we win ODI series but we keep losing. Kamran was terrible in the previous T20 WC he last played in.
 
Good move. There really isn't anyone he can replace in the batting lineup after their performances in the series against WI. Top 3 spots are certain with Azhar, Sharjeel, Babar and he is not going to be happy batting in the lower middle order so there really isn't any point selecting him when we can invest in Imad, Umar and Rizwan for that role.
 
Why would you recycle same old players. Credit to team management on putting there foot down.

Inzi's selection has been atrocious to say the least .
 
Kamran deserved to be there on merit.

Now I do not know what is going around. Maybe the PCB doesn't want Kami again.
 
Scoring runs in domestic cricket should never be the only thing selectors should look for. He has played for Pakistan previously many times and failed. Some people have this mental block of playing in International cricket or their game gets found out at the top level and that is exactly the case with Kamran. He has failed many times and his international record is mediocre to say the least. He can continue to play domestics for himself but doesn't deserve another shot at the top level unless he can prove he has actually made technical/mental adjustments and improved his game. Personally I don't think he has.
 
He averages 26 in his career.

What's so harsh about being overlooked because of that.

We criticize Afridi for averaging 23 as an all rounder with the bat, yet we should accept Kamran as a batsmen with an average of 26 is not much better either.

I don't care if his cut shot is better than Vivian Richards.

His stats show a sorry picture and you almost know for sure if he is given a chance he will keep up his past average.

I just don't understand how can there be such desperate support for the most overrated cricketer in the history of cricket.

Hey you, stats dont tell the whole story! Kami is legendary cutter and it is said that had he been utilized correctly then he would have surpassed Tendulkar by now. Glove work of his was second to none. PCB is all political for not allowing legend kami back in the team

I'm surprised at the goldfish like memory of Pakistani fans. This is the same kamran akmal who the fans wanted out of the team at any cost and since we havent seen him for a while so everyone wants him back. This sort of behavior is also observed with 2 other legends, namely Shahzad and Umar akmal. I would rather see the team get whitewashed rather see this siyasatdan back in the team.

Isnt he the same guy who teamed up with his brother on the last Australian tour and Umar refused to play if Kamran was not included? Why would anyone want him back?
 
KAkmal's utility was best in AUS ODI, for which he is not considered, fair enough - he is officially 35 in January. My only concern is, after AUS ODI, there will be changes for WI tour & KAkmal might be called back.
 
With that tidd, I doubt Mickey would play him.

And considering he would have played in the outfield he would easily give Irfan a run for his money for the worst fielder in the squad.

Can't believe some PP 'experts' are calling for his selection.
 
KAkmal's utility was best in AUS ODI, for which he is not considered, fair enough - he is officially 35 in January. My only concern is, after AUS ODI, there will be changes for WI tour & KAkmal might be called back.

He averages 17 in Australia
 
Do you think it might be something to do with the fact that despite being given so many chances in ODI's he averages 26 as an opener?

The same as Tatenda Taibu of Zimbabwe and only 3 points above the terminal failure Shahid Afridi?

When should a player be considered tried and tested failure?

1 chance? 2 Chances? 3 Chances?

Or should he keep getting picked if he hits centuries in domestics even if he flops in internationals?

Where do you draw the line?

If Kamran , after a great domestic season is rejected for being time and tested, can you name any one new exciting talent picked up from domestic cricket. Are Irfan, Rahat, Nawaz, Rizwan , shafiq not tried before and failed.
 
Asif pretty much confirmed in his interview that day that although the PCB has taken Kamran's passport, he will not be selected.

He has been dealt with harshly
. Deserves to be selected in all three squads.

However, I am pretty confident he will get picked for the WI tour after we get smashed in the Limited Overs.

Good he deserves it, am glad they took his passport and got his hopes high only to crush them. It's the least PCB could do after all the failed investments in Kamran not to mention his questionable moral compass.
 
It's ironic we carried him when his keeping declined and his batting declined (in tests, ODIs he was always a poor batsman). When we should have dropped him before so that he could work on his flaws and comeback a better player. We dropped him too late and now when it seems he finally may have improved himself, we don't select him.

I understand why selectors don't want him though. 34 is kind of old now, for a player who has been sub par for the majority of his career and given plenty of international chances. Should have improved before. Not needed as a wicketkeeper as we have someone better in Sarfraz both bat and gloves (though see Kamran's given up gloves). It's a tough one but think the decision to keep Kamran out is the right one.
 
He has one run a ball innings of 124 against WI at Gabba, which can win an ODI - Azhar's 38/75 stats is not going to work much beyond Zimboks.

So what he has done in the past will dictate what he does in the future?
 
So what he has done in the past will dictate what he does in the future?

There is a term called "form" & then there is type of batsman. KAkmal is in great batting form & he bats in a way that suits on AUS wickets. Obviously past record doesn't mean he'll repeat that, just like it'll be foolish to think every time Azhar will score 205* at MCG.
 
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There is a term called "form" & then there is type of batsman. KAkmal is in great batting form & he bats in a way that suits on AUS wickets. Obviously past record doesn't mean he'll repeat that, just like it'll be foolish to think every time Azhar will score 203* at MCG.

Facing Starc, Hazelwood, and Zampa is different to facing some medium pace trundlers. He is 35 years old , ibut me to move on from him . I would rather see his brother open than see Kami back. Maybe in t20s but in Odis and tests we should move on.
 
Facing Starc, Hazelwood, and Zampa is different to facing some medium pace trundlers. He is 35 years old , ibut me to move on from him . I would rather see his brother open than see Kami back. Maybe in t20s but in Odis and tests we should move on.

That's exactly what I said - his only utility was this AUS tour, which anyway is likely to be 0-5. Had he done exceptionally, may be for another year as a stop gap. He wasn't picked for AUS tour which is fair enough; but worst will be not to consider for AUS tour, but as a knee jerk reaction, bringing him back in for WI.

I do believe that he'll be called back for WI, based on AUS tour result & based on WI's recent ODI outing in UAE, that'll will be considered a master stroke by CS Inzamam ul Haq.
 
I really hope he doesn't get selected. We need to keep cheats like him as far away from the team as possible. Besides, he's 35 and averages in the 20s in ODIs which is atrocious. Was he really expecting a career turnaround?
 
No point in dismissing Kamran because of his questionable character and moral compass. If it means anything to the PCB, Amir will be the first one to get the boot, and not particularly for his mediocre bowling.
 
That's exactly what I said - his only utility was this AUS tour, which anyway is likely to be 0-5. Had he done exceptionally, may be for another year as a stop gap. He wasn't picked for AUS tour which is fair enough; but worst will be not to consider for AUS tour, but as a knee jerk reaction, bringing him back in for WI.

I do believe that he'll be called back for WI, based on AUS tour result & based on WI's recent ODI outing in UAE, that'll will be considered a master stroke by CS Inzamam ul Haq.

There is no use in selecting someone for a tour which he might fail than not selecting him again.

When he doesn't get selected for the West Indies tour, don't look for an excuse as to why you was wrong. If Azhar remains captain he stays in the team, if he is booted than Umar or even Babar will open before Kami is selected.
 
There is no use in selecting someone for a tour which he might fail than not selecting him again.

When he doesn't get selected for the West Indies tour, don't look for an excuse as to why you was wrong. If Azhar remains captain he stays in the team, if he is booted than Umar or even Babar will open before Kami is selected.

Did I say that he'll be called for WI tour, that I'll need to find excuse? If it wasn't Azhar as Captain, KAmran would have been called for this AUS tour, why he wasn't - you can read my posts on this before the team was announced & before the story of divided opinion on KAkmal's inclusion.

If Azhar remains as ODI Captain after AUS tour, Kamran won't be called back - the excuse remains same.
 
Did I say that he'll be called for WI tour, that I'll need to find excuse? If it wasn't Azhar as Captain, KAmran would have been called for this AUS tour, why he wasn't - you can read my posts on this before the team was announced & before the story of divided opinion on KAkmal's inclusion.

If Azhar remains as ODI Captain after AUS tour, Kamran won't be called back - the excuse remains same.


Azhar might be booted out so you might be right but I think weather Azhar is captain or not Kami isn't coming back now.

He was in form this was the time to call him up if Inzi wanted to .
 
This guy should never be selected. Proven international failure
 
He has one run a ball innings of 124 against WI at Gabba, which can win an ODI - Azhar's 38/75 stats is not going to work much beyond Zimboks.

Afridi had many of such notable performances. Khurram Manzoor has a ton again Steyn, Shan Masood scored a ton in SL during 4th innings iof a test match, Should they all be considered for selection? KAkmal isn't an option, If he was selected it would've been another mistake alongside selecting 35 Year Old Irfan.
 
Inzi should be sacked.
He is THE WORST selector we ever had.

Actually Kamran went for the PM's reference and that's the main reason why he is shocked, otherwise, he's been performing since too long and still being ignored.

The thing is, Inzimam is really considering the 'age factor'
 
One akmal family member (babar) in the team : doable
Two akmal family members (babar, umar) in the team: raised eyebrow
Three akmal family members (babar, umar, kamran) in the team: syndicate alarm
 
One akmal family member (babar) in the team : doable
Two akmal family members (babar, umar) in the team: raised eyebrow
Three akmal family members (babar, umar, kamran) in the team: syndicate alarm

What about 4 akmal family members in the team?
 
Thank God he has not been selected!Runs in domestics matter,but his personality is what I am afraid of.It will ruin team spirit and unity which is much better now compared to the past
 
Afridi had many of such notable performances. Khurram Manzoor has a ton again Steyn, Shan Masood scored a ton in SL during 4th innings iof a test match, Should they all be considered for selection? KAkmal isn't an option, If he was selected it would've been another mistake alongside selecting 35 Year Old Irfan.

That 124 was an example of his ability, but what's more important is his domestic performance. His 124 was still there, but I never considered him in last 5 years - unless players are not considered after exceptional performance, what's the point of arranging domestic tournaments? This is probably his 3rd year in a row for domestic dominance since he played last time for PAK.

His age is definitely an issue, for that if he isn't considered, fair enough; as long as he or anyone at that age is not called back as a knee jerk reaction. It'll be a mockery of every logic if he is called back for WI, just like Irfan is called back now in AUS, or Gull in ENG or Zulfi Babar was carried to UK, than UAE for one last try.

Also, next WC is in 2019 - don't know which is the dumber idea - calling 34 years old KAkmal as stop gap ODI opener, based on his brilliant domestic form or carrying on with 32 years old Azhar as ODI Captain after 2 years of shambolic Captaincy, which makes him an automatic choice & by default, he is occupying one of the top 3 spots with his obsolete game.
 
Its not likely that kamran will perform as a specialist batsman.

They already have Rizwan as back up.

Kamran said that he wants 3 chances as opener in 20 20 WC also , he failed there.

His problem is that he is very loose outside off and throws away his wicket there 8 out of 10 times.
 
Its not likely that kamran will perform as a specialist batsman.

They already have Rizwan as back up.

Kamran said that he wants 3 chances as opener in 20 20 WC also , he failed there.

His problem is that he is very loose outside off and throws away his wicket there 8 out of 10 times.

Very weak batsman mentally. In fact the only one weaker is umar akmal.
 
Kami deserves 4 more tries. Give this jewel of a batsman a chance , is that too much to ask for ?
 
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We already have two keeper batsman in the squad. Is there any chance for 3 or drop one of them to include him and most probably that was Rizwan likely to be dropped against WI without playing.
 
It was very shocking for us as well seeing you drop countless regulation catches + You already had your three chances as an opener.

I loved this guy bat but he cost us more game with his keeping then anyone else in the team.
 
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