It's time for Bangladesh to win a World Cup

[RainMan_]

First of all the lack of Bangladesh related thread was really bothering me. As the rising tiger and the second best team of Asia we deserve a lot more attention. So, in order to end the long lasting drought i have decided to open one by myself.

Ok, so what do you think about the possibility of Bangladesh winning the odi world cup within next 10 years. Is it possible? Also remember the fact that Shakib, Tamim and Mushfiqur all of them have already touched 30. So, its highly unlikely that they will continue after 2023.

Don't you think a player of Shakib and Tamim's caliber deserves a world cup medal in their trophy cabinet? Do u think this Bangladesh team has it in them what it takes to win a world cup?
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[Sherlock]

Well, at-least you can't be accused of not trying...

 

[Syed1]

Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahah good luck, you are going to need plenty of it

 

[jagatk]

Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahah good luck, you are going to need plenty of it

Nope they are a good team, just need India, Aus, Eng, SA, Pak, NZ to not play the world cup and they can win it.

 

[Syed1]

Nope they are a good team, just need India, Aus, Eng, SA, Pak, NZ to not play the world cup and they can win it.

Also please no ICC conspiracy against the tigers like last time

 

[Fineline]

"Second Best Team of Asia".LOL!

 

[BreadPakoda]

Second best Asian ODI team? From bottom?

 

[MMHS]

First of all the lack of Bangladesh related thread was really bothering me. As the rising tiger and the second best team of Asia we deserve a lot more attention. So, in order to end the long lasting drought i have decided to open one by myself.

Ok, so what do you think about the possibility of Bangladesh winning the odi world cup within next 10 years. Is it possible? Also remember the fact that Shakib, Tamim and Mushfiqur all of them have already touched 30. So, its highly unlikely that they will continue after 2023.

Don't you think a player of Shakib and Tamim's caliber deserves a world cup medal in their trophy cabinet? Do u think this Bangladesh team has it in them what it takes to win a world cup?
[MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION] [MENTION=136446]Mainul[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Not in UK 2019.

In 2023, if they use same format, we have a good chance to make top 4 (SF) - then it's about 2 great days; improbable, but not impossible. But, need to find replacements for Shakib, Tamim, Mushi, Mahmudullah quickly, as they'll be in odd side of 30s.

 

[Godhelpma]

First of all the lack of Bangladesh related thread was really bothering me. As the rising tiger and the second best team of Asia we deserve a lot more attention. So, in order to end the long lasting drought i have decided to open one by myself.

Ok, so what do you think about the possibility of Bangladesh winning the odi world cup within next 10 years. Is it possible? Also remember the fact that Shakib, Tamim and Mushfiqur all of them have already touched 30. So, its highly unlikely that they will continue after 2023.

Don't you think a player of Shakib and Tamim's caliber deserves a world cup medal in their trophy cabinet? Do u think this Bangladesh team has it in them what it takes to win a world cup?

They can win a trophy probably but not in this 21 st century .

 

[CricFan2012]

I will be happy for any team to win the cup if they have never done so previously, but it is certain to be massive in Bangladesh and it will only benefit cricket.

Sadly Bangladesh doesn't have the team to pull it off.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Potentially Asia Cup winners, but not WC in UK.

 

[babajee]

Why not? They have best opener in Asia, best spin bowling all rounder ever and best Asian bowler?

 

[RainMan_]

Nope they are a good team, just need India, Aus, Eng, SA, Pak, NZ to not play the world cup and they can win it.

Huh, its a serious thread bro. Don't make poor jokes.

Yes, next wc is in Australia. So it might be difficult for us to do well on those placid pitches of Australia.

But what about 2023 wc which will be held in india. We r easily one of the best teams in lois when it comes to playing on slow and low wickets of Asia.

 

[Ab Fan]

First of all the lack of Bangladesh related thread was really bothering me. As the rising tiger and the second best team of Asia we deserve a lot more attention. So, in order to end the long lasting drought i have decided to open one by myself.

Ok, so what do you think about the possibility of Bangladesh winning the odi world cup within next 10 years. Is it possible? Also remember the fact that Shakib, Tamim and Mushfiqur all of them have already touched 30. So, its highly unlikely that they will continue after 2023.

<B>Don't you think a player of Shakib and Tamim's caliber deserves a world cup medal in their trophy cabinet?</B> Do u think this Bangladesh team has it in them what it takes to win a world cup?
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Yiu talking about Shakib and Tamim?

Yha already bade bade players world cup ke pyase hai

 

[Syed1]

Huh, its a serious thread bro. Don't make poor jokes.

Yes, next wc is in Australia. So it might be difficult for us to do well on those placid pitches of Australia.

But what about 2023 wc which will be held in india. We r easily one of the best teams in lois when it comes to playing on slow and low wickets of Asia.

Correction... Next WC is in England. The one after (2023) is in India. You are right you have a chance on slow, low pitches. However, the thing is the format is such that now every team plays against every other team and the top four go to semi. Do you really think BD can beat Eng, SA, NZ, Aus, Ind (I'll leave out Pak because that will hurt your feelings but we all know the head to head record of both sides).


If it was group format where top two advance and then quarter-semi-final then BD had more chance because in the group they would only be facing one more strong side and the possibly two other minnows. Then it is just three good days of cricket and you win the WC.


So the present format of WC is the last thing that BD need, however, between now and 2023 there is alot of time. Who knows maybe you find a whole bunch of good cricketers and a better captain.

 

[AMSS]

Do you really think BD can beat Eng, SA, NZ, Aus, Ind (I'll leave out Pak because that will hurt your feelings but we all know the head to head record of both sides).

BD would thrash Kiwis 9 out of 10 times in Asia. They'd also have more than a good chance of beating Aus, Eng and SA. Didn't they recently whitewash SA at home?

 

[RainMan_]

Not in UK 2019.

In 2023, if they use same format, we have a good chance to make top 4 (SF) - then it's about 2 great days; improbable, but not impossible. But, need to find replacements for Shakib, Tamim, Mushi, Mahmudullah quickly, as they'll be in odd side of 30s.

This is why I'm so worried.

Our younger players perfomance up to this point is below par. Although they r technically superior but don't have the mental strength.

Which is why perhaps 2023 will be too late for us since most of our world class players will become too old by then. But what about 2019 wc in England(thx syed1 for the correction).

Can we make it to the semis? After all we have a strong batting lineup.

 

[Syed1]

BD would thrash Kiwis 9 out of 10 times in Asia. They'd also have more than a good chance of beating Aus, Eng and SA. Didn't they recently whitewash SA at home?

This is such an academic and useless debate because we don't know what the teams will look like 5 years from now, also the sides that BD defeated at home (Pak, Ind, NZ, SA) all look considerably different (like upto 80-90% different) from what they looked when BD defeated them and that was also a few years ago now - 2015 to be exact.

 

[RainMan_]

Correction... Next WC is in England. The one after (2023) is in India. You are right you have a chance on slow, low pitches. However, the thing is the format is such that now every team plays against every other team and the top four go to semi. Do you really think BD can beat Eng, SA, NZ, Aus, Ind (I'll leave out Pak because that will hurt your feelings but we all know the head to head record of both sides).


If it was group format where top two advance and then quarter-semi-final then BD had more chance because in the group they would only be facing one more strong side and the possibly two other minnows. Then it is just three good days of cricket and you win the WC.


So the present format of WC is the last thing that BD need, however, between now and 2023 there is alot of time. Who knows maybe you find a whole bunch of good cricketers and a better captain.

Good analysis.

Sometimes ppl don't realise the fact that winning world cup is a lot easier than it seems to be.

Look at India in 83 or Lanka in 96. I think we r in a much much better position than they were during that period.

So, it won't be a miracle if we actually mange to win a world cup within next 10 years.

 

[AMSS]

This is such an academic and useless debate because we don't know what the teams will look like 5 years from now, also the sides that BD defeated at home (Pak, Ind, NZ, SA) all look considerably different (like upto 80-90% different) from what they looked when BD defeated them and that was also a few years ago now - 2015 to be exact.

That's true for 90 percent of the threads here. The larger point was that BD will be justified to back themselves against all the non-subcontinental teams.

 

[saeed5646]

First bd needs to win
Triangle series(against top side)
Asia cup
Champions trophy
World t20
Than they can even think of winning the 50 over world cup.In 2023 world cup they have good chance get any where near world cup as it will be played in asia

 

[RainMan_]

I will be happy for any team to win the cup if they have never done so previously, but it is certain to be massive in Bangladesh and it will only benefit cricket.

Sadly Bangladesh doesn't have the team to pull it off.

Oppps, that's sad.

I was expecting to see a lot of optimistic views here. I thought mamoon is the only pessimist around here.

I guess, I was wrong.

 

[RainMan_]

Second best Asian ODI team? From bottom?

From the top. (it's a bit debatable, but let's not get into the detail! )

Point is, we r the rising star of world cricket. So it will be sad if we can't win a wc in next 8/10 years, or at least make it to the sf/final.

 

[Hasan123]

Not in UK 2019.

In 2023, if they use same format, we have a good chance to make top 4 (SF) - then it's about 2 great days; improbable, but not impossible. But, need to find replacements for Shakib, Tamim, Mushi, Mahmudullah quickly, as they'll be in odd side of 30s.

It will take a few years to replace those guys. So you won't be winning the world cup without replacing .

You won't win the WC in 2023.

 

[pkckt]

First of all they are nowhere near the 2nd best Asian team and they seem to have this mentality where they manage to make it far but choke and panic when it matters but its definitely not impossible

 

[AFM]

Bigger flukes have happened, so why not? If a rubbish team like India can win, so could anyone

 

[MMHS]

This is why I'm so worried.

Our younger players perfomance up to this point is below par. Although they r technically superior but don't have the mental strength.

Which is why perhaps 2023 will be too late for us since most of our world class players will become too old by then. But what about 2019 wc in England(thx syed1 for the correction).

Can we make it to the semis? After all we have a strong batting lineup.

I would say less chance in UK than AUS to make the SF, because in AUS, on those large grounds spinners can come into play. For UK WC, we need at least 3 skilled pacers, right now none there (Mustafiz isn't an UK type pacer). 14 months is too close to find couple of quality pacer or improve Taskin to that level.

2023 WC is in India and condition will be favorable, players will be relaxed as well. In a 10 team WC, you need roughly 6 wins to confirm qualification for the SF; 5 wins can do, even mathematically 3 wins can take a side to SF (45 games, 90 points on offer - it's possible for top 3 sides end with 18, 16 & 14 points, rest 42 points can be shared by 7 teams equally - that's 3 wins each). I think, 11 points (5 wins & a tie/wash out) should be enough for SF.

Things can change lot in 5 years, but in a WC in IND, we should back ourselves to win against AFG, SRL, WI & NZ - that's 4 wins; need 4, at least 3 points against PAK, IND, SAF, AUS & Poms, which isn't impossible. So, the tactics should be not to lose those 4 games, not to lose any game by big margin so that NRR doesn't suffer much, and make every tough game tight, which should end in 1/2 wins.

Once you are in SF, it's basically 2 great days - in 1983, IND played their best 2 games in SF & Final; so did PAK in 1992; so you never know. But, at current resources, it won't happen - need at least 3/4 new faces better than current team + 4 replacements mentioned earlier - that's 7/8 players at the level of current top level. Shakib probably will be the Captain still (he'll be 35-36 for a spin all-rounder) and a mature one than what he is now.

Also, no matter whatever player (s) you have, most of them have to be in form during WC - couple of world class players at their prime and 7/8 good players hitting peak collectively at one time can do miracles in a team game. This is something happened for SRL in 1995-97 period, and for 2014-15 period for us; or say Greece in 2004 or Denmark in 1992.

 

[barah_admi]

I mean...no it's unlikely haha

Could pull off a few more upsets but I doubt they can win a world cup for at least 3 more editions.

 

[CadPakFan]

Tbh it's possible but they would need everything to do some crazy upset like they did vs NZ but definitely not in 2019 so 2023 is a possibility but they need some new talent and they need Fiz to get his Fiz back.

 

[MMHS]

It will take a few years to replace those guys. So you won't be winning the world cup without replacing .

You won't win the WC in 2023.

If you end the discussion like this one liner, then probably no point of having this thread - a simple poll can do.

I have seen same one liner regarding BD qualifying for CT, then BD making QF in WC .........

 

[Hasan123]

If you end the discussion like this one liner, then probably no point of having this thread - a simple poll can do.

I have seen same one liner regarding BD qualifying for CT, then BD making QF in WC .........

Yes you got the knockout rounds , then what happened? You couldn't deal with pressure.

 

[Rahul1]

The only things Bangladesh will win are hearts and lungs and kidneys etc. Or perhaps not even that anymore.

 

[MMHS]

Yes you got the knockout rounds , then what happened? You couldn't deal with pressure.

It's 5 years, long time for a cricket team. SRL lost 9/21 in 1989 Neheru cup to miss a SF spot .... handling pressure isn't genetic, it comes with experience at higher level and regularly playing competitive games. Few months back 2 batsmen chased 263 from 30/4 in a KO game, another 5 years BD team should be experience with 150+ games, which will help players to handle pressure better.

 

[RainMan_]

Why will Bangladesh win World Cup........


1. Tamim Iqbal- One of the best Openers in the world and has been in mind boggling form off late.


2. Mushfiqur Rahim - Easily one of the best and stylist wicketkeeper cum middle order batsman in the world.


3. Fizz- Nothing to talk about him. His unbelievable stats speak for himself. One of the best death over bowlers from Asia and possibly across the world.


4. Shakib Al hasan - Easily the best all rounder in the world right now. Potential ATG

 

[Hasan123]

It's 5 years, long time for a cricket team. SRL lost 9/21 in 1989 Neheru cup to miss a SF spot .... handling pressure isn't genetic, it comes with experience at higher level and regularly playing competitive games. Few months back 2 batsmen chased 263 from 30/4 in a KO game, another 5 years BD team should be experience with 150+ games, which will help players to handle pressure better.

NZ and South Africa have been saying cricket longer than Sri Lanka yet they still can't handle the pressure. Furthmore you don't produce the quality of players that Sri Lanka did when they won WC.

Your current team is very experienced . Most of them play in T20 leagues and have played lots of international cricket but still can't handle the pressure.

NZ are also poor under pressure. Had Australia or India been in NZ position, Bangladesh wouldn't have even crossed 100.

 

[RainMan_]

Yes you got the knockout rounds , then what happened? You couldn't deal with pressure.

This is what needs to be changed very shortly.

We almost won the asia cup, but couldn't do so due to lack of experience of handling pressure. (although I consider it as a Victory)

Same thing happened twice against India in some of the most important knockout matches. (bad umpiring didn't help either)

So its just a mental thing and bad luck. Otherwise our team is pretty much filled with world class players. What we need to do is be mentally strong, and if we can do that we r good to win quite a few ICC trophies(including WC) in next decade.

 

[Hasan123]

This is what needs to be changed very shortly.

We almost won the asia cup, but couldn't do so due to lack of experience of handling pressure. (although I consider it as a Victory)

Same thing happened twice against India in some of the most important knockout matches. (bad umpiring didn't help either)

So its just a mental thing and bad luck. Otherwise our team is pretty much filled with world class players. What we need to do is be mentally strong, and if we can do that we r good to win quite a few ICC trophies(including WC) in next decade.

Other teams can handle the pressure better than you. Your best players are 30 or just over. 2019 is your chance to do something . After that tournament you will need to try some newer players.

 

[MMHS]

Why will Bangladesh win World Cup........


1. Tamim Iqbal- One of the best Openers in the world and has been in mind boggling form off late.


2. Mushfiqur Rahim - Easily one of the best and stylist wicketkeeper cum middle order batsman in the world.


3. Fizz- Nothing to talk about him. His unbelievable stats speak for himself. One of the best death over bowlers from Asia and possibly across the world.


4. Shakib Al hasan - Easily the best all rounder in the world right now. Potential ATG

So true, but you can replace BD and find such 3/4 points for most teams - take AFGs, best leggi, one of the best mystery bowler, a top class LO all-rounder and a hard hitting WK-batsman.

Problem is, for other main contenders, you can probably go to No. 10, 11, 12 ... in that way.

This is the difference in cricket with other team games - a top player like Shakib can win one game almost single handed (he did actually recently against AUS - 10 wickets, 87 in one innings; or SRL 110 and 7 wickets; another one against NZ which we lost 9 wickets + runs in the Test, but we lost by 1 wicket); because cricket is the only game, despite being a team game individual can dominate like no other game. But, better teams have more holes plugged in, therefore you don't get then knocked off easily. That AUS side won a WC SF for the batting of No. 10 while in 1975 WIN qualified for SF scoring 63 in 9 overs by last pair!!!!

If we are to win WC, we'll need to improve quality of team (players pool), most of the players hitting top form collectively, couple of world class players to lead the charge, couple of good teams having a rough time .... and lots of good luck like winning crucial tosses, more 50-50 calls going in favor, favorable interruptions ... etc. Most importantly, as I say always for every team - Cricket has to wish.

 

[Kashmiri_Pak_fan]

The only things Bangladesh will win are hearts and lungs and kidneys etc. Or perhaps not even that anymore.

For what? May be chasing 340 against the likes of Australia or England and eventually falling short of 10 odd runs?

 

[big_gamer007]

I would like to see BD do well and maybe reach finals against India and lose there..

BD fans and players are one of the most passionate ones and they deserve to do well in WC.. good luck to their team

 

[MMHS]

NZ and South Africa have been saying cricket longer than Sri Lanka yet they still can't handle the pressure. Furthmore you don't produce the quality of players that Sri Lanka did when they won WC.

Your current team is very experienced . Most of them play in T20 leagues and have played lots of international cricket but still can't handle the pressure.

NZ are also poor under pressure. Had Australia or India been in NZ position, Bangladesh wouldn't have even crossed 100.

Same NZ has swept PAK in ICC events in last 15 years - take a look, 2002 CT, 2006 CT, 2009 CT, 2011 WCs, .... BD beat IND in 2007 chasing which took IND basically out of the WC; so what's your basis of thinking like so? PAK has 0-6 against IND in WC - so, should we take that, it's not going to change ever?

 

[Hasan123]

Same NZ has swept PAK in ICC events in last 15 years - take a look, 2002 CT, 2006 CT, 2009 CT, 2011 WCs, .... BD beat IND in 2007 chasing which took IND basically out of the WC; so what's your basis of thinking like so? PAK has 0-6 against IND in WC - so, should we take that, it's not going to change ever?

How does NZ beating Pakistan make them a clutch side? It's known they are chokers .

Bangldesh have conitnuley chocked with these current players with will this change ? I highly doubt Bangladesh will produce players better than the current players before 2023 WC.

 

[RainMan_]

I would like to see BD do well and maybe reach finals against India and lose there..

BD fans and players are one of the most passionate ones and they deserve to do well in WC.. good luck to their team

This. We r easily one of the most level headed supporters in Asia who understand and appreciate good cricket.

 

[big_gamer007]

This. We r easily one of the most level headed supporters in Asia who understand and appreciate good cricket.

Level headed or not I don’t know but you guys are the most entertaining supporters and can even make a useless tournament like Nidhas trophy turn into a mini World Cup.. BD fans and team of today are definitely bringing an extra flavour into the game of cricket which is otherwise pretty dull and monotonous..

 

[MMHS]

How does NZ beating Pakistan make them a clutch side? It's known they are chokers .

Bangldesh have conitnuley chocked with these current players with will this change ? I highly doubt Bangladesh will produce players better than the current players before 2023 WC.

Your first line doesn't put much value as the Kiwis are current WC Runners up.

2nd line, only time will tell - as I said, choking is not a fate or genetics, it's about grooming. Boys did hold nerves against SRL recently, in which is our weaker formats of LO game.

3rd one is your personal comment - I can't say much about that. There are kids with great potential, but potential doesn't make someone great.

 

[BobbySharma]

Good analysis.

Sometimes ppl don't realise the fact that winning world cup is a lot easier than it seems to be.

Look at India in 83 or Lanka in 96. I think we r in a much much better position than they were during that period.

So, it won't be a miracle if we actually mange to win a world cup within next 10 years.

Winning the World Cup is easier than it seems to be? LOLLLLL. You said this is a serious thread.... all I see is that you are seriously seriously delusional when you make that sort of statement.

To win world cups you need a team that works like a swiss watch.Or, you need individuals who can overcome a better team with individual brilliance. India in 83 had Kapil, Pak in 92 had Imran, Inzi, Javed. SL in 96 had Ranatunga, Jaya & Kalu. Opposing teams always thought they could beat these three teams but were always fearful of players who could turn the match on its head.

Where are such players in the current BD setup? Frankly i dont see them making semis of any major world tournament, unless they get lucky to be drawn into an easy group. But no such luck in WC 19 type format where each team plays everyone else.

So, how can BD actually win the WC? They need to discover world class talent at 15, 16, 17 year level and nurture it. And then hope for the best. And stop whining about umpiring or issues like that. Respect the game and respect the opposition. Once you have enough world class players, you can transform them into a world class team. Till then, find couple of players and hope their individual performance can beat the team they are playing against.

 

[Hasan123]

Your first line doesn't put much value as the Kiwis are current WC Runners up.

2nd line, only time will tell - as I said, choking is not a fate or genetics, it's about grooming. Boys did hold nerves against SRL recently, in which is our weaker formats of LO game.

3rd one is your personal comment - I can't say much about that. There are kids with great potential, but potential doesn't make someone great.

Home advantage had a lot to do with that. You think they would make WC final in subcontinent?

They didn't hold there nerves in the final though.

 

[MMHS]

Home advantage had a lot to do with that. You think they would make WC final in subcontinent?

They didn't hold there nerves in the final though.

Home advantage actually doesn't work in Cricket WC, because the game is dominated by nerves. So far only IND & AUS has won home WC, because those 2 teams were genuinely best at that time. Even then MS won a crucial toss at Mohali. Last time, at home we had a chance to make the QF against WI in 2011 - we got bundled out for 58 More or less, every team at home has choked at crucial times, because the pressure got better of them. Kiwis actually made SF of 2015, 2011, 2007, 2003 & 1999 WC in 5 different continents, also won CT in Kenya, which indicates they acclimatize well and handle pressure well also.

More than home advantage, I think what you need is conditions that favors your strength, and you have a good neutral support - that encourages you, but doesn't kill with expectation. This is one reason, I have mentioned many times that PAK's chances in UK/AUS is far more than in Asia - which actually is proven as well - you can check the records.

For us, probably the best venue for WC is IND - conditions are similar, climate as well and BD will get highest support outside home in IND, from locals and travelling fans. Recently, I was surprised to see that, BD has replaced Russia as the most friendly country/nation to Indians. Besides, those fast outfields on a smalish ground are exactly what you need for BD batting, as we don't have brutal hitters, rather sweet timers.

Winning WC, is always tough - even Germany or Brazil don't hit more than 1:2 odd (that's 2 out of 3 don't think they'll win). In Cricket, that 1979 WIN team was 1:1 - in that regard, you'll always have plenty of points to explain why not, rather than why (BD should win WC).

I can post 3 pages why BD won't win 2023 WC, but that's probably what we are not looking for here.

 

[dhonixi]

I hope bd does. I want to see them succeed, but i hope their fans do not get in face of others then.

 

[RainMan_]

Winning the World Cup is easier than it seems to be? LOLLLLL. You said this is a serious thread.... all I see is that you are seriously seriously delusional when you make that sort of statement.

To win world cups you need a team that works like a swiss watch.Or, you need individuals who can overcome a better team with individual brilliance. India in 83 had Kapil, Pak in 92 had Imran, Inzi, Javed. SL in 96 had Ranatunga, Jaya & Kalu. Opposing teams always thought they could beat these three teams but were always fearful of players who could turn the match on its head.

Totally disagree with all of ur points!!

Swiss Watches r durable but expensive. Obviously, if a team works like a Swiss Watch it's great but truth is in order to win a world cup a team does not necessarily need to work like a Swiss Watch because when it comes to winning world cup along with all the other icc trophies a Chinese Watch will do everything that a Swiss watch is capable of doing.

A team just needs to play 4 back to back good match to win a world cup. Hence, those 4 games r the ones that matter. After that even if that Chinese watch stops working it won't be a problem. Swiss watch is required to win ICC mace because that trophy demands a team to play consistent good cricket over a prolonged period of time. So durability of Swiss watch is required.

Where are such players in the current BD setup? Frankly i dont see them making semis of any major world tournament, unless they get lucky to be drawn into an easy group. But no such luck in WC 19 type format where each team plays everyone else.

It's sad that u aren't seeing them even though they r in front of ur eyes. Shakib, Tamim, Mushfiqur, fizz there r so many if them....
Zzzzz

So, how can BD actually win the WC? They need to discover world class talent at 15, 16, 17 year level and nurture it. And then hope for the best. And stop whining about umpiring or issues like that. Respect the game and respect the opposition. Once you have enough world class players, you can transform them into a world class team. Till then, find couple of players and hope their individual performance can beat the team they are playing against.

Thanks a lot for reminding me about the umpiring. I almost forgot about the Drs system. That system alone has increased our chances of winning the trophy by some good percentage since we have always been at the receiving end when it comes to bad umpiring. Hopefully drs will help us in that regard.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Not in 2019.

We’ll get an upset or two in, but might also lose to teams like PAK or SL. If we can win 5 games, we’ll have done well but that won’t be enough to make the semis.

 

[Kashmirilion]

Funny thing is people bring up Lanka 1996 or India 1983 those times are long gone last 5 world cups have been won by one of the favourites not underdogs cricket has changed alot since then.

 

[cricketindiafan]

A team that does Naagin dance after reahing finals of a useless tournament like Nidhas Trophy does not deserve to win a WC yet. BD will someday definitely win a WC but not the next one.

 

[BreadPakoda]

To be honest, if bottom ranked Pakistan can win a multi team tournament, why cant Bangladesh the World Cup?

 

[hadi123]

I can't see them winning a world cup any time soon as they are too reliant on a few players. Let them win an Asia Cup first, that's their best chance of winning a tournament for the foreseeable future

 

[PakLFC]

Please!! Banga have no chance of winning the WC Having never won even Asia Cup they should be aiming for that later this year. They can't even crawl yet and are dreaming of running! Only Pak can come from nowhere like in 1992 WC and the Champions Trophy last year and win a tournament

 

[Bhaijaan]

Considering WI & Pakistan both won the last two ICC tournaments, i certainly don't rule out another minnow making it big next. I think we're going through a great run here where the Giants are being taken down.

 

[saeed5646]

To be honest, if bottom ranked Pakistan can win a multi team tournament, why cant Bangladesh the World Cup?

So you are comparing the champions trophy with 50 over worldcup .it is good to know that atleast you have accepted the champions trophy as a major icc tourney

 

[saeed5646]

Considering WI & Pakistan both won the last two ICC tournaments, i certainly don't rule out another minnow making it big next. I think we're going through a great run here where the Giants are being taken down.

Pakistan and w.i have also won the icc trophy in history and also very important oversease series what have bd done or u are too fustrated with pakistan team so don.t want to miss opporunity to express your bitterness

 

[Oxfordchamp]

Bangla team has actually regressed over the past couple of years..they had some success at Home in 2015 but since then haven't acheived much.. In CT 2017 also they luckily got into semis due to weather..don't expect them to win many matches in 2019 world cup..

 

[BreadPakoda]

So you are comparing the champions trophy with 50 over worldcup .it is good to know that atleast you have accepted the champions trophy as a major icc tourney

No, but it was a huge feat for a bottom ranked team that was not directly qualifying for the tournament at a point of time. At least Bangladesh directly qualifies for the world cup. So why can’t they win it..

 

[RainMan_]

Pakistan and w.i have also won the icc trophy in history and also very important oversease series what have bd done or u are too fustrated with pakistan team so don.t want to miss opporunity to express your bitterness

Winning ICC trophy including world cup has got nothing to do with winning overseas series. Both r two different things.

Actually winning an World Cup is easier than winning a full fledged series in Australia or South Africa for an Asian team.

 

[saeed5646]

No, but it was a huge feat for a bottom ranked team that was not directly qualifying for the tournament at a point of time. At least Bangladesh directly qualifies for the world cup. So why can’t they win it..

Are you serious or just too naive
When did pak played the qualifer for CT pakistan was in top 8 when the CT cut off date was set

 

[saeed5646]

Winning ICC trophy including world cup has got nothing to do with winning overseas series. Both r two different things.

Actually winning an World Cup is easier than winning a full fledged series in Australia or South Africa for an Asian team.

LOL Good luck then for winning the worldcup if its too easy
Pakistan have won odi series in Sa and aus so have india so don.t know your point
Did you miss recent phainty by india to SA?

 

[BreadPakoda]

Are you serious or just too naive
When did pak played the qualifer for CT pakistan was in top 8 when the CT cut off date was set

Pakistan was struggling to qualify until they arranged a few games with WI. I didn’t say they had to play a qualifier. You couldn’t figure out the previous post as well, not sure why thought I equated the WC with CT. I see a trend here.

 

[RainMan_]

Bangla team has actually regressed over the past couple of years..they had some success at Home in 2015 but since then haven't acheived much.. In CT 2017 also they luckily got into semis due to weather..don't expect them to win many matches in 2019 world cup..

That's how tournament works. U need a lot of luck to win icc trophies. If luck wasn't the with india, PAK or srilanka none of them could've won theur first world Cup.

 

[FreakCricket]

Beating Sri lanka in Nidhas cup might be equivalent to WC win, dont worry guys just carry on!

 

[saeed5646]

Pakistan was struggling to qualify until they arranged a few games with WI. I didn’t say they had to play a qualifier. You couldn’t figure out the previous post as well, not sure why thought I equated the WC with CT. I see a trend here.

I have no idea what you are on about pakistan was right fully direct qualify in the CT and that is it if the other were that good they should have made without depending on pakistan
Alot of indian don.t rate champions trophy as a major trophy after pak winning so for a change you did compare CT win the worldcup

 

[Oxfordchamp]

That's how tournament works. U need a lot of luck to win icc trophies. If luck wasn't the with india, PAK or srilanka none of them could've won theur first world Cup.

Your delusion has no limits..Bangla were lucky due to rain..they won only one match in the group stage..and you are delusional enough to compare that with world cup wins...With luck you can only get into knockout stages sometimes but beyond that you need many other things ...in the World cup wins by india Pakistan SL ,luck only played a small part..

 

[RainMan_]

Your delusion has no limits..Bangla were lucky due to rain..they won only one match in the group stage..and you are delusional enough to compare that with world cup wins...With luck you can only get into knockout stages sometimes but beyond that you need many other things ...in the World cup wins by india Pakistan SL ,luck only played a small part..

U really need to read my posts a lot more carefully.

U said, Bangladesh went to the semifinal of CT due to luck. In reply I said, u need luck to win icc trophies, specially if u r comparatively a weaker team. Many things need to go in ur favor if u wanna win an ICC trophy as an underdog which is exactly how India and Pakistan won their first ever world Cup.


But that does not necessarily mean luck will do everything for u, obviously u need to play good cricket. Winning ICC trophy depends a lot on picking up at the right time. If a team can pick up their game at the right time and keep up the momentum, they can definitely win the trophy regardless of their quality. Look at the way how West indies and Pak won the CT in 2004 and 2017 respectively.

 

[Rishta Aunty]

I would like new teams to rise up and win stuff, but the vast majority of Bangladeshi fans I've met are insufferable. I'd support India over them everyday of the week, which tells you all you need to know.

 

[RainMan_]

I would like new teams to rise up and win stuff, but the vast majority of Bangladeshi fans I've met are insufferable. I'd support India over them everyday of the week, which tells you all you need to know.

I always support pak and India when they aren't playing against us. I think we have big hearts.

 

[Rishta Aunty]

I always support pak and India when they aren't playing against us. I think we have big hearts.

Our hearts are all scientifically of a similar size

Anyways, I really wanted Bangladesh to do well, but many of the fans I've met are full of conspiracy theories about how everyone is trying to keep them down and what not. And a huge chip on the shoulder based on beating us a few times, and India once or twice.

Now nobody is perfect and there are bad eggs everywhere, but that makes it very difficult for me to want the team to do well when I know I'll hear about that results and how that makes Bangladesh the bestest team ever for the next 10 days. Apart from that all the best to you guys haha!

 

[Mueez]

HAHAHHAAAHA.
to your thought!

 

[Varun]

For us, probably the best venue for WC is IND - conditions are similar, climate as well and BD will get highest support outside home in IND, from locals and travelling fans. Recently, I was surprised to see that, BD has replaced Russia as the most friendly country/nation to Indians. Besides, those fast outfields on a smalish ground are exactly what you need for BD batting, as we don't have brutal hitters, rather sweet timers.

No they won't. Please don't retain high hopes on this front.

Kiwis actually made SF of 2015, 2011, 2007, 2003 & 1999 WC in 5 different continents, also won CT in Kenya, which indicates they acclimatize well and handle pressure well also.

The 2003 semi-finalists were in fact, Australia, Lanka, Kenya and India.

 

[MMHS]

No they won't. Please don't retain high hopes on this front.



The 2003 semi-finalists were in fact, Australia, Lanka, Kenya and India.

My mistake, Kenya did make the SF.

Regarding support, you are expressing your own feelings, I can’t help - I quoted something based on survey, which you can’t deny. Also, I found BD team pulling quite a bit of support in the T20 WC at Kolkata, and I see quite a bit of support at PP as well from Indian posters, so not sure why I shouldn’t expect BD to get some local support in games against other teams than India.

 

[Sam99]

They should win but i hope my great grand childrens don't have to hear daily trolls from bangladesh fans in 2068 about that win.

 

[DeadBall]

They should win but i hope my great grand childrens don't have to hear daily trolls from bangladesh fans in 2068 about that win.

My grandchildren would still be watching Hafeez play at the time while going for his 56th action test and Kami hoping for a comeback.

 

[rhony]

The first world cup BD will win is the U19 WC. Then it will be T20 WC. As far as the ODIs go, BD can win the Champions trophy. It's the format that can allow surprises. ODI world cup, I don't think that will happen in the next decade

 

[SamNJ]

As a coincidence two threads on top on PP cricket forum are

1. about Indian bowler breaking record of fastest delivery bowled
2. about BD winning the world cup