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"Jasprit Bumrah will find it difficult to sustain his action" : Aaqib Javed

OS_89 said:
Still photos at different points of delivery do not prove chucking.
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These screenshots were taken just before the delivery release. Wouldnt ICC be checking the same?


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"Get Ashwin checked.."

"Get Bumrah examined.."

.. As for safety measures, get Sudhir Kumar Chaudhary's action tested as well! :murali
 
Bumrah is lucky he isn't Pakistani about make his debut in a month's time when this "coach" will be Pak's coach (probably).

Would've changed his action, the way he walks, talks, eats, and would've ended his career right there.

Think this is the same looney tune who changed Anwar Ali's action post 2006 U19 WC and made him the trundle freedom fighter he is today.
 
That action looks real ugly especially when he's tired or being hit around
 
miandadrules said:
Looks like hyperextension from the screen shot.
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Much like with Shoaib Akthar. Which also makes it a tad more difficult for batsmen to pick up the ball I believe?

Whatever Aaqib Javed says selectors and team manager should do the opposite.
 
Dios said:
Bumrah is just another bowler in the long list of one-season wonders for India. He'll have vanished by this time next year. How can you even compare him to Mustafizur or Taskin? As for his action don't worry Soumya and Tamim will beat him into changing his action on Sunday.
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Almost 2 years gone..time for fresh gyan?????
 
Its 4th year for Bumrah after the ODI debut on 23 January 2016.

Got 49 wickets from 10 tests.
 
Aqib the serial action changer destroyed many promising young careers by changing their actions most noticeable Anwar Ali If Bumrah was Pakistani he would be playing quaid e Azam trophy languishing in 33rd place in the bowling averages for the season
 
Musakhel said:
Its hyperextension, some people can hyper extend their joints more than others.
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It is true that hyperextension is discounted under the ICC regulations but a player must first be tested to see if he hyperextends the elbow or now.

The fact that a camera can pick out the bend, and I have been able to pick it out multiple times (as have many others), means the naked eye can see it, which is likely that it is bending beyond the 15 degree angle (supposedly the point at which the human eye can pick it out). This should at the very least constitute Bumrah having a look into it, as has been the case with many bowlers in the past.
 
For a player to be tested; his action has to be reported by the umpires. A lot of top umpires in world cricket have officiated in matches in which Bumrah played, if they had any concerns he would have been reported long back. Sometimes athletes benefit from deformities in their bodies ala ** Chandrashekar or Muralitharan. Peace out bro , dont look at everything with a negative mindset.
 
Legend once said 😂Bumrah is out for atleast 2 to 3 month with minor back fracture

Let's see how long it will take for bumrah to recover . will be interesting to see if it will effect his form and bowling or not
 
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Back injuries for a fast bowler are always lethal
 
Savak said:
Back injuries for a fast bowler are always lethal
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I hope it is not lethal for him.. they are really bad injuries for fast bowlers but a lot of them get them. Waqar had serious back injuries throughout his career. It is true that first few years of his career were Waqar’s absolutely unplayable peak, but he was always a pretty decent bowler. But I hope Bumrah comes back, as I love seeing good fast bowlers. My favourite aspect of cricket. But having said that, I enjoy watching Cummins and Rabada more in test cricket than Bumrah. And when I first saw Bumrah’s action, I also thought that it was a dangerous action and injury prone, but he has bowled injury free for a while now.
 
saeed5646 said:
Legend once said 😂Bumrah is out for atleast 2 to 3 month with minor back fracture

Let's see how long it will take for bumrah to recover . will be interesting to see if it will effect his form and bowling or not
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As long as he is available for full season of IPL 2020 I won't mind. :inti
 
A masterstroke by BCCI by not exposing Bumrah on dry Indian pitches against a mediocre team.

No need to bother the pacers in India.

On Indian pitches you need a horse. Like Ishant Sharma who can even bowl a 10 over spell on Mars.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
A masterstroke by BCCI by not exposing Bumrah on dry Indian pitches against a mediocre team.

No need to bother the pacers in India.

On Indian pitches you need a horse. Like Ishant Sharma who can even bowl a 10 over spell on Mars.
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Dumb post. May be you are not aware that every test match counts whether its against a mediocre side like South Africa or a champion team like West Indies. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
As long as he is available for full season of IPL 2020 I won't mind. :inti
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Injuries are part and parcel of life but i totally agree bumrah have played too much cricket in very little time .i would have rested him for westindies test series which obviously was tricky situation due to test championship but then again he is pure diamond and India should manage him very carefully
 
i would like to know why are we discussing a cricket team we do not have cricketing relations with?
 
He hasn't played many tests so it is difficult to tell if he can remain injury free.His action is very dubious but because BCCI has financial clout it has not been called suspect.Anyway he won't be able to sustain this action.
 
Bumrah has a very weird and unorthodox action. I have a feeling he will get seriously injured at some point (unless India manages him well).
 
Jasprit Bumrah's action makes him susceptible to injuries, not technically sound: Kapil Dev

India's legendary fast bowling all-rounder Kapil Dev feels Jasprit Bumrah's bowling action is not technically sound and hence he is vulnerable to injuries while his compatriot Bhuvneshwar Kumar will last longer.

Dev, who retired in 1994, and is still India's leading Test wicket-taker (434) among pacers, believes that a bowler's action needs to be technically sound for greater impact.

"...if your bowling action is technically sound you make a bigger impact. See what happened to Bumrah, his action attracts injuries. He uses his arm more than body, so that can be a problem. A bowler like Bhuvneshwar will last longer because he uses his body," the 1983 World Cup winning captain told Sportstar

Bumrah's exceptional rise in Test cricket has made many believe he is the lethal most bowler among India's power-packed pace attack, which includes Mohammed Shami, Umesh Yadav and Ishant Sharma.

There is little doubt among cricketing circles about Bumrah's ability as a world class fast bowler but there are concerns aplenty with regards to his bowling action.

After becoming the first Indian bowler to bag a five-wicket haul in South Africa, England, Australia and West Indies, Bumrah was primed for home debut in Tests against the Proteas in September.

However, the 25-year-old pacer had to pull out of the series as he suffered from a stress fracture in the lower back.

After his injury he had tweeted, “Injuries are part & parcel of the sport. Thank you for all your recovery wishes. My head is held high & I am aiming for a comeback that’s stronger than the setback.”

Bumrah's unusual action has been a subject of contention for some time now with even researchers making use of bio-mechanics to breakdown the Gujarat pacer's action.

Former fast bowler Ashish Nehra, someone whose career was marred with multiple injuries and surgeries, dismissed the theory that stress fracture has got anything to do with his action.

"Stress fracture is unrelated to action and we must get our concepts clear. He doesn't need to change his action and if he tries to do that, it won't be great. Let me assure you when he comes back, he can bowl with same action, intensity and pace," Nehra was quoted saying by PTI.

While left-arm fast bowler Zaheer Khan feels that Bumrah's awkward action has worked in the bowler's favour while bowling coach Bharat Arun said his 'unique action is what makes his special'.

https://www.firstpost.com/firstcric...-not-technically-sound-kapil-dev-7701991.html
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Dumb post. May be you are not aware that every test match counts whether its against a mediocre side like South Africa or a champion team like West Indies. :inti
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The goal is to win.n the test match, not show off. Which is what bhai means here. We are winning so the strategy us right, against more difficult team overseas we need our best more
 
Since it came out of Aqib's mouth, one of the most clueless coaches ever specializing in fixing actions that don't need fixes and destroyer of promising careers, I can now sleep in peace knowing that Bumrah will have a long and fantastic career.
 
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When it comes to nitty gritty of fast bowling I would take Bharat Arun's word over Aqib 'I fix bowlers' Javed and Kapil 'Mushkil toh nahi lagta lekin tough zaroor hoga' Dev anyday.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Jasprit Bumrah's action makes him susceptible to injuries, not technically sound: Kapil Dev

India's legendary fast bowling all-rounder Kapil Dev feels Jasprit Bumrah's bowling action is not technically sound and hence he is vulnerable to injuries while his compatriot Bhuvneshwar Kumar will last longer.

Dev, who retired in 1994, and is still India's leading Test wicket-taker (434) among pacers, believes that a bowler's action needs to be technically sound for greater impact.

"...if your bowling action is technically sound you make a bigger impact. See what happened to Bumrah, his action attracts injuries. He uses his arm more than body, so that can be a problem. A bowler like Bhuvneshwar will last longer because he uses his body," the 1983 World Cup winning captain told Sportstar

Bumrah's exceptional rise in Test cricket has made many believe he is the lethal most bowler among India's power-packed pace attack, which includes Mohammed Shami, Umesh Yadav and Ishant Sharma.

There is little doubt among cricketing circles about Bumrah's ability as a world class fast bowler but there are concerns aplenty with regards to his bowling action.

After becoming the first Indian bowler to bag a five-wicket haul in South Africa, England, Australia and West Indies, Bumrah was primed for home debut in Tests against the Proteas in September.

However, the 25-year-old pacer had to pull out of the series as he suffered from a stress fracture in the lower back.

After his injury he had tweeted, “Injuries are part & parcel of the sport. Thank you for all your recovery wishes. My head is held high & I am aiming for a comeback that’s stronger than the setback.”

Bumrah's unusual action has been a subject of contention for some time now with even researchers making use of bio-mechanics to breakdown the Gujarat pacer's action.

Former fast bowler Ashish Nehra, someone whose career was marred with multiple injuries and surgeries, dismissed the theory that stress fracture has got anything to do with his action.

"Stress fracture is unrelated to action and we must get our concepts clear. He doesn't need to change his action and if he tries to do that, it won't be great. Let me assure you when he comes back, he can bowl with same action, intensity and pace," Nehra was quoted saying by PTI.

While left-arm fast bowler Zaheer Khan feels that Bumrah's awkward action has worked in the bowler's favour while bowling coach Bharat Arun said his 'unique action is what makes his special'.

https://www.firstpost.com/firstcric...-not-technically-sound-kapil-dev-7701991.html
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With bumras weird bowling action, you would think that he will be finished as a bowler within a few years , if he plays regularly, but who knows?
I would predict, and its only a prediction, that he will have shoulder problems within 3 years and that will lead to the end of his career.
 
IndianFan2018 said:
Lol....Fizz fizzing out, Taskin who? .... Bumhrah No. 1 ODI bowler and also got 5 fer vs SA in debut test series

:aag
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Taskin was close to enter the elite list of bowlers with a ln economy of 6+ in odis before he was dropped. His test average is 97.4

BTW,even Fizz has become a bench warmer for a side which keeps losing to Afghanistan
 
One thing is clear he wont last very long as a test match bowler - He can play longer in shorter formats.
 
I said even when he came into the scene that he will have back and side issues. He survived much longer than my expectation without any serious injury until recently (Though I am not sure of the gravity).

However, he is currently at his peak of body condition as the time will go by he will find it more difficult to
remain injury free or as potent as he is when he will compromise a bit on his action or pace.

Dont remember many bowlers in the history of the game to sustain an action in which you bend on left side as much. Bond had to retire early while Cummins, Shinwari etc and recently Naseem had to modify their actions. Though for Bumrah his action is one of the most important thing in his effectiveness.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Since it came out of Aqib's mouth, one of the most clueless coaches ever specializing in fixing actions that don't need fixes and destroyer of promising careers, I can now sleep in peace knowing that Bumrah will have a long and fantastic career.
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That's you being optimistic and being in denial.
There's no way he can sustain himself with that action for another 4 years.

Come back here in 2023. I'm sure his career would be finished by then due to a major injury.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Since it came out of Aqib's mouth, one of the most clueless coaches ever specializing in fixing actions that don't need fixes and destroyer of promising careers, I can now sleep in peace knowing that Bumrah will have a long and fantastic career.
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Don;t know why everyone is after Aqib, he was a very good bowler and learnt from some legendary fast bowlers in his playing days including IM, Akram, and Waqar. I'm sure he possesses a great knowledge of fast bowling. He said initially what others are saying now regarding Bumrah's action. Aaqib was right then and he is right now.
 
Relic said:
That's you being optimistic and being in denial.
There's no way he can sustain himself with that action for another 4 years.

Come back here in 2023. I'm sure his career would be finished by then due to a major injury.
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There is a saying in my native tongue Bengali which roughly translates to "The Cow won't die no matter how hard it is cursed by the Vulture".
 
moghul said:
Don;t know why everyone is after Aqib, he was a very good bowler and learnt from some legendary fast bowlers in his playing days including IM, Akram, and Waqar. I'm sure he possesses a great knowledge of fast bowling. He said initially what others are saying now regarding Bumrah's action. Aaqib was right then and he is right now.
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Good bowler but a crap coach, as I said when it comes to technicality of fast bowling I would trust Bharat Arun over Aqib or Kapil. What being right you are talking about? Injuries are parts and parcel of fast bowling and I will blindly put my faith on BCCI when it comes to facilitating the best rehabilitation program and care money could buy. Bumrah is an asset, as important to us as Kohli and Rohit if not more, mark my words he will have a longer and better career than most Pak greats.
 
Can anyone tell me how a few posters are claiming that Aqib Javed was a very good bowler? Goodness!
 
Aaqib said so - lets hope Bumrah recovers and is back soon
 
Rightarmfast said:
Wasim Akram has insisted and categorically said not to change his action and that its not going to result in injuries as bumrah is used to his action. I prefer to go with Wasim
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Great one more reason for me to mute wasim whenever he comes on .
Seems like he was just playing to the gallery or I'm afraid he has totally lost it when it comes to modern cricket .
 
Well well Aqib is becoming Baba Zonga of cricket, no wonder he unearths gem for LQ
 
It’s such a diabolical action, for once Aqib didn’t need to overthink that it’s a problem.
 
Slog said:
Broken clock is right twice a day

No pacer has ever crossed Aqib Javed’s eyeliner whose bowling action he did not want to change.
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Yes, Aqibbhai is so sharp, sometimes he advises to change actions of bowlers without seeing a single ball bowled by them.

While playing 1992 WC, he advised IK to change his action but IK did not listen to him.

I don’t have any evidence of above though.
 
Hitman said:
Can anyone tell me how a few posters are claiming that Aqib Javed was a very good bowler? Goodness!
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Aqib was just unfortunate he played in a team with two of the ATGs so he had to play second fiddle.

He would have walked in to the Indian team and would have been India’s greatest ever pacer.
 
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