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I have been waiting for this guy to debut for a while now.

Good offie with emphasis on flight.

Decent lower order bat with a compact defense.

Lead spinner material.

What do you guys think of him?
 
Yes, looks international material at least for Indian pitches. His partnership with Ash was also crucial in getting us past 450. Looks calm and behaves like he belongs here :)

PS: Needs to improve his running btw wickets :yk
 
Does he put more body into his bowling than Ash?

Could be a great option overseas if he does so.

One issue I see with him is that the life of the ball isn't as much as I would like.

Apart from that, looks solid.
 
What I loved about him is that he flights the ball outside off and bring it back to right handers and troubles them.

Him and Ash are gonna form a great pair and trouble visiting teams a lot more (as they can threaten both lefties and righties).

Jaddu will be the stock bowler who keeps it tight and support these 2.
 
I have always thought that he was top order level batsmen.

He is better bowler than Ashwin was at age 26.
 
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Does this guy look like he could be our 2nd spinner or am I over-rating him?
 
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Uses the body well but doesnt put much revs on the ball,hence wouldnt get much turn on normal tracks.

Definitely better than Mishra but I'm not convinced hes the man we need.Can be a good backup to Ashwin

Was more impressed with his batting temperament
 
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Does this guy look like he could be our 2nd spinner or am I over-rating him?

2nd is Jaddu.Done enough for that
 
2nd is Jaddu.Done enough for that

Yep. But cricket is a game where things keep changing according to how players emerge.

If tomorrow Kuldeep Yadav outperforms Ash overseas, then Ash will have to sit in the bench overseas.

Jaddu is solid. His value is immense.

Jayant has something about him I feel. If he clicks, we can play 3 spinners.

Jayant/Ash combo may exert more pressure when we go for an all out attack imho.

Jaddu comes in when we have to exert control...or when the pitch is turning big when he will become a major force to reckon with.
 
Uses the body well but doesnt put much revs on the ball,hence wouldnt get much turn on normal tracks.

Definitely better than Mishra but I'm not convinced hes the man we need.Can be a good backup to Ashwin

Was more impressed with his batting temperament

Averaged 22 in India A tour of Aus I heard.

I know that doesn't necessarily mean he would do that in international games but there is more to him.

Should have been bullied like hell if he can't spin in normal tracks.
 
Averaged 22 in India A tour of Aus I heard.

I know that doesn't necessarily mean he would do that in international games but there is more to him.

Should have been bullied like hell if he can't spin in normal tracks.

Pandya did well in Aus A tour too,both with bat and ball.

These things are misleading.Aussie main team cant play spin,let alone A team :P
 
Pandya did well in Aus A tour too,both with bat and ball.

These things are misleading.Aussie main team cant play spin,let alone A team :P

A spinner doing well in Aus is a way bigger deal than a pacer even with bad opposition. :P

I get your point though.

But we are talking about 2nd/3rd spinner spot for now. If he can do that in Aus, can't he be decent in Asia (for starters)?
 
Only seen him bowl for an over. He will struggle if the pitch isn't spin friendly. Doesn't use the body well and not much revs either. He won't threaten Ashwin's career for sure.
 
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Does this guy look like he could be our 2nd spinner or am I over-rating him?


Want to watch him bowl more. There is no reason why he can't though.
 
Looks like he has ended Mishra's career.

Age and athleticism was never on Mishra's side. He is a very good bowler in spin friendly conditions. He can bat a bit too.

Mishra played on a real flat track at Rajkot. All Indian spinners looked toothless. A bit harsh on him to get dropped.
 
india is producing decnt spinners i mean offie we dont have any even in domestic/...
 
The few games I could dig up on this guy:

Him and Jaddu played together last year against Bangladesh A

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/918033.html

India A tour of Aus

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/1022337.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/1022339.html

There is bit less life in his ball (dunno the technical term for it) which is a negative point but he does have flight and can spin the ball.

Tomorrow should help us understand better.

Zip

Batsmen seem to have the time to adjust.

Like a right handed Ojha
 
I'll be honest here. He doesn't look like a guy who puts too many revolutions in the ball but someone who floats it in the air. I'm not sure if he can get a sharp turn. He has been impressive statswise regardless lately though and apparently Ashwin mentors him. But he doesn't look that great to me atm, can develop maybe with experience.
 
I have to be honest and say that i only saw a snippet and when I saw him run in i thought he was going to chuck( something reminded me of Botha) but he didnt. A nice simple action but i need to see more before i can form any sort of judgment.
 
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Does this guy look like he could be our 2nd spinner or am I over-rating him?

Haven't been able to watch him due to work, SIF. Will try some live streaming websites first and comment.
 
He might be a very effective offie, but I wonder whether its a good idea to play both Ash and Jayant in the same XI. Its fine when you've a team like England who have 7 lefties (or even if a team has 5 lefties). But when a team has fewer than 5 lefties, I do not see the point of playing another right arm offie.

With Ash and Jadeja in the XI, if we play 3 spinners, our 3rd spinner should be a leggie.

Of course, if we are looking at him as a back up for Ash, then its useful to play him on home tests once in a while.
 
Today I watched a bit more of him.

I like him. I think he will do very well for India moving forward.

Obviously has his weaknesses but there is something about him. Maybe the flight and the smooth action.
 
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Does this guy look like he could be our 2nd spinner or am I over-rating him?

So far he looks like a poor man's Ashwin, we should invest in a good leg spinner just for variety's sake.
 
Solid solid bat.

More solid than Ash, Saha, Rohit, Jaddu and co.

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Now onto his bowling.
 
He looks solid lower order batsman.. don't know about bowling but his batting completely resembles Ashwin
 
Ash has more skills but he plays risky shots time to time.

Jayant just reduces the chances of dismissal with his defense and shot making.

Solidity is more.

Ash has been solid in every conditions.Dont think Jayant will do as well against swing

Better version of Bhuvi you can say
 
Ash has been solid in every conditions.Dont think Jayant will do as well against swing

Better version of Bhuvi you can say

Better than Bhuvi.

Bhuvi was super compact himself. Jayant is that plus shots.

Ashwin is solid 90% of the time. The rest 10% is danger diabolic. :))
 
Solid solid bat.

More solid than Ash, Saha, Rohit, Jaddu and co.

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Now onto his bowling.


Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have found a mini Ashwin at the very least.

Indian spin attack = 2 Ash + 1 Jaddu

Jayant when he starts bowling more deliveries quicker will be more effective. Also looks much better when he settles down.
 
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We have found a very reliable lower order bat and a tidy off spinner. Remarkable discovery. Was silently performing all these years, got a chance in IPL and India A and is suddenly looking like a certain pick in all home tests. Could very soon even be leading the attack if Ash is missing! Will soon get picked in shorter formats though he does not have a good record in those formats.

Kohli and Kumble's first real 'discovery' and am sure they will ensure he develops well. Unfortunate for Mishra as it's tough to see him playing home tests now.

Most importantly he bowls with half sleeves and has a very clean action!
 
Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have found a mini Ashwin at the very least.

Indian spin attack = 2 Ash + 1 Jaddu

Jayant when he starts bowling more deliveries quicker will be more effective. Also looks much better when he settles down.

He's been spending too much time with Ashwin lol. But seriously that attack needs at least 1 wrist spinner at home, it's a shame Mishra sucked in the last match.
 
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Actually he is the perfect third spinner in Asian conditions, he can bat against spin, can play reverse swing and also can hang with tailenders.
With perfect action he can break partnership at right time.
Only thing I don't know how he plays bouncers.
 
Kuldeep is next in line.

Has higher ceiling in batting and bowling than ash1 and ash2.
 
Jadeja needs to really step up his batting. Jayant looks far better batsman than him.
 
Jadeja needs to really step up his batting. Jayant looks far better batsman than him.

Bowling too.

I have been saying this from NZ series.

Something is slightly off with his bowling.

Yes, he has been picking wickets but the threat quotient is low.

I don't know what happened. We need a firing Jaddu.
 
Kuldeep is next in line.

Has higher ceiling in batting and bowling than ash1 and ash2.

He's still a season or two away from international cricket. May get a shot in one of those series vs Zim which we play almost every year.

Has had a great FC season so far - 9 matches, 45 FC wickets.
 
Bowling too.

I have been saying this from NZ series.

Something is slightly off with his bowling.

Yes, he has been picking wickets but the threat quotient is low.

I don't know what happened. We need a firing Jaddu.

He looks much more innocuous when the pitch isn't spinning much as the only weapon he has is the 90-95 kph slider into the RHB which good batsmen will keep out, in the SAF series he looked lethal because the batsmen weren't sure which one would spin. His position in the team is not yet under threat for me especially since he is a brilliant fielder to boot but his batting has disappointed for a while.
 
He looks much more innocuous when the pitch isn't spinning much as the only weapon he has is the 90-95 kph slider into the RHB which good batsmen will keep out, in the SAF series he looked lethal because the batsmen weren't sure which one would spin. His position in the team is not yet under threat for me especially since he is a brilliant fielder to boot but his batting has disappointed for a while.

Don't think its about the turn or lack of turn in this case.

Jaddu can do well even on not so much turning pitches with his relentless lines and slight turn.

In fact, in this pitch he had a proper rough to work with against lefties. The only India spinner who could use the rough available.

He just was not hitting the right spots and when the ball turned from the rough, the batsmen were on backfoot easily playing it. Ali got out suddenly but he was comfortable against Jaddu for most part. Yesterday, he was bowling much better.

Maybe some technical problem has crept into his game or just lack of form.

Jaddu can surely do better than this.
 
Wow an Indian spinner takes a bag full of wickets against England on a wearing pitch. Shock horror. I'm happy if there is another spinner on the horizon as good as Ashwin but it's really too soon to big up this guy. Let's see how he is after a few tests.

But I think there is something about his action that doesn't seem 100% kosher. Need to see more though.
 
Kuldeep man.

Kuldeep.

India's hope.

Future star (hopefully).

He has been exceptional both with the pink and red ball this season. He was also the only bowler who troubled AB in a practice game that he played vs SA.

Needs to blooded in for the last one or two Tests if India is 2-0 or 3-0 up. Erapalli Prasanna has been saying that for a while.
 
Wow an Indian spinner takes a bag full of wickets against England on a wearing pitch. Shock horror. I'm happy if there is another spinner on the horizon as good as Ashwin but it's really too soon to big up this guy. Let's see how he is after a few tests.

But I think there is something about his action that doesn't seem 100% kosher. Need to see more though.

Lol he has one of the cleanest actions for an off-spinner and also bowls quite slow through the air.
 
Wow an Indian spinner takes a bag full of wickets against England on a wearing pitch. Shock horror. I'm happy if there is another spinner on the horizon as good as Ashwin but it's really too soon to big up this guy. Let's see how he is after a few tests.

But I think there is something about his action that doesn't seem 100% kosher. Need to see more though.

1. His bowling doesn't have the bite that Ashwin has but he is a mini Ash. Can improve over time.

2. As for his action, his action is clean.

3. This ain't a regular wearing pitch that helped spinners much. Watch him spin webs on a real wearing pitch.
 
Not a long term prospect .
His batting is inferior to Jadeja both in Indian and overseas conditions and bowling is no where close . The other problem is , being similar in bowling style there is a risk of reducing Ahwins effectiveness .

We need to invest on specialists for Tests
 
1. His bowling doesn't have the bite that Ashwin has but he is a mini Ash. Can improve over time.

2. As for his action, his action is clean.

3. This ain't a regular wearing pitch that helped spinners much. Watch him spin webs on a real wearing pitch.

Ashwin is class and a true hero for India. But this guy has only just broken into the 11 so let's wait and see.

Word of caution though. Rarely do teams pick two of a kind spinners especially when one is a talisman. (warne/McGill for instance) secondly have to wait and see how India utilise him when they play abroad.

But I don't want to sound negative. He gives good loop and flight , drifts in the air and is accurate and has a straighter one I think. Is very intelligent, knows how to set fields and traps which is a god send for any team. Unlike the thickos that play for us and just hustle and bustle without blowing anything down.

But I am not convinced his action is 100%. A definite kink in some of his deliveries, not all though. If he was a Sri Lankan or Pakistani or even a Zimbabwean then there def would be louder calls to get him tested.
 
He has been exceptional both with the pink and red ball this season. He was also the only bowler who troubled AB in a practice game that he played vs SA.

Needs to blooded in for the last one or two Tests if India is 2-0 or 3-0 up. Erapalli Prasanna has been saying that for a while.

Pant needs to get a cap if we are 2-0 or 3-0 up going into the final test. A genuine batsman replacing Saha is the biggest boost we can make going into the away season.
 
Pant needs to get a cap if we are 2-0 or 3-0 up going into the final test. A genuine batsman replacing Saha is the biggest boost we can make going into the away season.

Pant will get his chance sooner than later but he may be blooded in ODI series in January. As backup keeper and backup middle order basher to Jadhav.
 
Ashwin is class and a true hero for India. But this guy has only just broken into the 11 so let's wait and see.

Word of caution though. Rarely do teams pick two of a kind spinners especially when one is a talisman. (warne/McGill for instance) secondly have to wait and see how India utilise him when they play abroad.

But I don't want to sound negative. He gives good loop and flight , drifts in the air and is accurate and has a straighter one I think. Is very intelligent, knows how to set fields and traps which is a god send for any team. Unlike the thickos that play for us and just hustle and bustle without blowing anything down.

But I am not convinced his action is 100%. A definite kink in some of his deliveries, not all though. If he was a Sri Lankan or Pakistani or even a Zimbabwean then there def would be louder calls to get him tested.

Jayant is just a 3rd spinner for now. His spot isn't guaranteed in Asian pitches itself let alone overseas.

Maybe my term "lead spinner material" may have lead to some confusion. By that, I mean someone who knows what he is doing (sets his own fields), who can pick the crucial wickets needed for his team, who has the temperament of leading the spin attack, etc.

Skills wise, he is not quite as good as I wanted so he won't be the lead spinner for India anytime soon but can be a good support cast for now.

His batting is crucial for a 5 bowler attack.
 
Very good talent, India have found a good combination at home. Should be a period of domination at home for India in test cricket. Has the possibility to be a golden era of Indian test cricket if they can perform and win in Australia,nz, South Africa, and England.


Wouldn't be suprised if this team won in England and NZ. Be interesting how they do in SA and Australia the next time they tour.
 
He did get lucky while batting yesterday.

Root dropping a sitter when he was at 8, and then edging behind at 28 but getting away thanks to Cook wasting reviews.

Played much better this morning though.
 
He did get lucky while batting yesterday.

Root dropping a sitter when he was at 8, and then edging behind at 28 but getting away thanks to Cook wasting reviews.

Played much better this morning though.

True.

But has shown a lot of maturity.
 
Averages 73 with the bat and 29 with the ball.

Not a single failure with the bat.

Wow wow wow.

Statistically,first one to average that after 3 Tests? :P

Can be a really solid backup to Ashwin.Not that dependent on him anymore thankfully

Infact might take his place in ODIs if he improves his hitting :))
 
Jayant the Giant is a real asset for India in home tests. I don't see why they would need three spinners away from home though. Maybe he edges out Jadeja in away tests as the second spinner and allrounder option.

Five batsmen
Keeper
Ashwin
Jayant
Three pacers

That makes a well rounded side with solid enough lower order batting to make up for only picking five specialist batsmen. Certainly Jayant is an upgrade on Binny/Axar/whoever India picked as the allrounder in away tests previously.
 
His composure while batting clearly shows his comfort as a batsman. But on away tours remains to be seen how he handles bounce. As he has played a lot of FC Cricket at Lahli, a notorious ground known for excessive swing and seam, I would assume him to be decent in handling seam swing.
 
Jayant the Giant is a real asset for India in home tests. I don't see why they would need three spinners away from home though. Maybe he edges out Jadeja in away tests as the second spinner and allrounder option.

Five batsmen
Keeper
Ashwin
Jayant
Three pacers

That makes a well rounded side with solid enough lower order batting to make up for only picking five specialist batsmen. Certainly Jayant is an upgrade on Binny/Axar/whoever India picked as the allrounder in away tests previously.

Jaddu offers more with the ball at the moment which would be needed for overseas tours. Or Kuldeep Yadav could come in for him.

Jayant is perfect as a 3rd spinner in Asia but needs to improve his bowling to be considered for outside Asia tests.
 
Statistically,first one to average that after 3 Tests? :P

Can be a really solid backup to Ashwin.Not that dependent on him anymore thankfully

Infact might take his place in ODIs if he improves his hitting :))

Sadly Jayant doesn't seem to pick enough wickets in LOI. Even in List A, his wickets per match ratio is less than 1.

Feel Ash would rectify his not so good ODI record in the next 3-4 years. Just a matter of time. His weakest suit is T20s imho.
 
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Very good talent, India have found a good combination at home. Should be a period of domination at home for India in test cricket. Has the possibility to be a golden era of Indian test cricket if they can perform and win in Australia,nz, South Africa, and England.


Wouldn't be suprised if this team won in England and NZ. Be interesting how they do in SA and Australia the next time they tour.

No chance. Will get crushed away. Only Ganguly had that ability.
 
On topic he has a horrid weakness against short ball.. so unless he does something about it his honeymoon as a next all-rounder might come to an end

Not sure about Jayant the bowler.. any thoughts ?
 
On topic he has a horrid weakness against short ball.. so unless he does something about it his honeymoon as a next all-rounder might come to an end

Not sure about Jayant the bowler.. any thoughts ?

Seems like a classical offie but lacks the penetration of Ashwin. Pretty good 2nd/3rd spinner.

If he is likely to play only as the 2nd/3rd spinner, I dont think he will be considered for the overseas series. In India, his batting is good enough to be the all rounder. Even the short deliveries in India wont trouble him that much.
 
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