Jharkhand: Mob sets Muslim man’s houses ablaze over alleged cow slaughter on Eid

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I dont know how you confidently nail anyone as Indian online.

India is a emerging economy and everyone has to face some hardship somewhere.May be you only see muslims.

Everyone has to follow the law of the land and no one should get any special treatment.If anyone is involved in any kind of crime againist any Indian then that person is to face justice.

Perhaps that's what the mob who torched this residence were thinking, they were implementing the law of the land, i.e., the Prevention of Cow Slaughter Act passed in 2005, which they may feel hasn't been enforced vigorously enough by the authorities. With the spate of such vigilante acts, it's the only conclusion I can come to.

 

[the Great Khan]

I dont know how you confidently nail anyone as Indian online.

India is a emerging economy and everyone has to face some hardship somewhere.May be you only see muslims.

Everyone has to follow the law of the land and no one should get any special treatment.If anyone is involved in any kind of crime againist any Indian then that person is to face justice.

Called out by whom?Why should any Indian be answerable to any foreigner?They are right if they dont give a damb to what a foreigner has to say about internal matters of India?

and this here is the crux of the problem..your response has simply made my point for me. Before puffing out your chest perhaps you need to reread what you have written.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Perhaps that's what the mob who torched this residence were thinking, they were implementing the law of the land, i.e., the Prevention of Cow Slaughter Act passed in 2005, which they may feel hasn't been enforced vigorously enough by the authorities. With the spate of such vigilante acts, it's the only conclusion I can come to.

Regardless of what the mob thought.They committed arson will be punished for that.

That doesnt mean the guy who killed cows is innocent.

 

[cricketjoshila]

and this here is the crux of the problem..your response has simply made my point for me. Before puffing out your chest perhaps you need to reread what you have written.

I have considered what i had written before i wrote that.If anyone breaks the law of the land he needs to be punished.The law applies to the bovine maniacs and the cow killers alike.

 

[sshakir411]

Thank the Almighty for Pakistan otherwise there would be massive killings every Eid in India.

Wonder if these mobs will ever confront the million Hindus who eat beef regularly?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Regardless of what the mob thought.They committed arson will be punished for that.

That doesnt mean the guy who killed cows is innocent.

No of course not. With the cow being a holy animal, no doubt many Hindus will feel the slaughter of the cows was the bigger crime, hence the mobs fury.

 

[CanadianG00se]

"India" isnt Canada. Muslims were in India before there was anything called India and are a part of the land and culture..suddenly asking them to silence their azaans is uncivilised.

How is stopping noise pollution being "uncivilised"? Just because it is happening for past few centuries doesnt mean it should be happening for next few centuries as well.

I really hope Modi and Govt take note of noise pollution been created by lot of religious ceremonies and put proper regulations in place to tackle it.

 

[CanadianG00se]

No of course not. With the cow being a holy animal, no doubt many Hindus will feel the slaughter of the cows was the bigger crime, hence the mobs fury.

No one here is denying the crime committed by the mobs. We all wanted the proper legal proceedings, none of us( sane ones) approved of mobs taking law in their hand. Whatever happened was unfortunate and hope the guilty ones are trial and sentenced

 

[UN talkz]

How is stopping noise pollution being "uncivilised"? Just because it is happening for past few centuries doesnt mean it should be happening for next few centuries as well.

I really hope Modi and Govt take note of noise pollution been created by lot of religious ceremonies and put proper regulations in place to tackle it.

Modi ji's bhaiyoun aur behnou makes my ear bleed... can u pls ask him to stop speaking rubbish and most importantly stop using LOUDSPEAKERS during his rallies.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Modi ji's bhaiyoun aur behnou makes my ear bleed... can u pls ask him to stop speaking rubbish and most importantly stop using LOUDSPEAKERS during his rallies.

Im in favour of banning loudspeakers used as a whole. If India intend to move forward then they need to get their act together.
The only loud noise should be allowed is for Emergency vehicles. Rest should happened within limits.

 

[UN talkz]

Im in favour of banning loudspeakers used as a whole. If India intend to move forward then they need to get their act together.
The only loud noise should be allowed is for Emergency vehicles. Rest should happened within limits.

I have no reason to disagree with u....
i agree whatever u said in this post... politicians first needs to stop blocking roads and using DJ loudspeakers for thier rallies..

 

[dauntless]

Some so called patriots are trying to portray India as the ideal country to live which India is definitely not!! I don't know why they can't accept reality that India is one of the worst place to live.
#mera bharat mahaan

 

[JaDed]

Unfortunate but not surprising,Law and order was never a strong hold in that belt/state.

 

[JaDed]

Some so called patriots are trying to portray India as the ideal country to live which India is definitely not!! I don't know why they can't accept reality that India is one of the worst place to live.
#mera bharat mahaan

If you don't like it you can move out,no one is forcing you to live here, surely other Ideal countries would accept you.

I might dislike a lot of things here but it's still my home and ideal for me.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I have no reason to disagree with u....
i agree whatever u said in this post... politicians first needs to stop blocking roads and using DJ loudspeakers for thier rallies..

Rules say no loudspeakers between 11Pm to 6AM.I would be happy if they enforce this first.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No of course not. With the cow being a holy animal, no doubt many Hindus will feel the slaughter of the cows was the bigger crime, hence the mobs fury.

There is no bigger crime or smaller crime.A crime is a crime.

Its pathetic that people like you make fun of religious beliefs of others.Respect others faith or god forbid someone may disrespect yours.

 

[dauntless]

If you don't like it you can move out,no one is forcing you to live here, surely other Ideal countries would accept you.

I might dislike a lot of things here but it's still my home and ideal for me.

To begin with Jammu is much much better than other parts of India with 370 act and all. low crime rates I believe, people are friendly, development in right direction,etc some Hindus Muslims issues are still there but that happens occasionally but still not the ideal place. Work in progress in few years hopefully I would leave this great country.I m no Indian I consider myself proud citizen of my state.I fear for minorities. #god save them

 

[UN talkz]

Rules say no loudspeakers between 11Pm to 6AM.I would be happy if they enforce this first.

U r once again bringing religion into it... u know it will only hurt Muslims and maybe DJ's will have to wind up their business....
look brother, noise pollution is a harmful thing... it is as harmful during rest of the day as it is during 11 to 6 ... so it's better to take uniform decisions rather than targeting one community.

 

[JaDed]

To begin with Jammu is much much better than other parts of India with 370 act and all. low crime rates I believe, people are friendly, development in right direction,etc some Hindus Muslims issues are still there but that happens occasionally but still not the ideal place. Work in progress in few years hopefully I would leave this great country.I m no Indian I consider myself proud citizen of my state.I fear for minorities. #god save them

The minorities in your state are Hindus good to know you fear for them.

 

[the Great Khan]

How is stopping noise pollution being "uncivilised"? Just because it is happening for past few centuries doesnt mean it should be happening for next few centuries as well.

I really hope Modi and Govt take note of noise pollution been created by lot of religious ceremonies and put proper regulations in place to tackle it.

noise pollution? lol, for centuries people have been hearing this "noise" and ab yaad aya hay noise pollution. its nonsense and just another way to discriminate against Muslims.

 

[CanadianG00se]

noise pollution? lol, for centuries people have been hearing this "noise" and ab yaad aya hay noise pollution. its nonsense and just another way to discriminate against Muslims.

Dude do u even read what i just said?

Things happening for ages dont mean should happen in future as well.

So a muslim wants to discriminate a fellow muslim, great!

 

[cricketjoshila]

U r once again bringing religion into it... u know it will only hurt Muslims and maybe DJ's will have to wind up their business....
look brother, noise pollution is a harmful thing... it is as harmful during rest of the day as it is during 11 to 6 ... so it's better to take uniform decisions rather than targeting one community.

How is this about religion? Is this rule of no use of loudspeakers only on for a certain religion?Everyone be it hindu or muslims or sikhs have to follow it.Be it loudspeakers for Azaan or aartis for temple,they have to stop.Couple of weeks from now the navratra starts and then there will be all night long celebrations with loudspeakers,that has to stop as well.

You cannot totally ban loudspeakers in India.Thats impossible.But banning them during unearthly hours is certainly possible.

 

[dauntless]

The minorities in your state are Hindus good to know you fear for them.

Nope not in Jammu city and I was talking about your great country "The India" no need to be bitter all the time you need to accept the bitter truth.India is a pseudo secular country with pseudo patriots.

 

[UN talkz]

How is this about religion? Is this rule of no use of loudspeakers only on for a certain religion?Everyone be it hindu or muslims or sikhs have to follow it.Be it loudspeakers for Azaan or aartis for temple,they have to stop.Couple of weeks from now the navratra starts and then there will be all night long celebrations with loudspeakers,that has to stop as well.

You cannot totally ban loudspeakers in India.Thats impossible.But banning them during unearthly hours is certainly possible.

Sorry but then i need Azaan on loudspeakers for waking me up for FAJR prayers and after prayers i sleep again and then I need Mandir AARTIS to wake me up, they help me to be on time for my college.

look if u talk about noise pollution.... then like i said earlier, loudspeakers are as harmful during the night as they are during the day...
look somewhere in banglore recently Azaans for Fajr were banned and AARTIS were allowed...
I said earlier i am for uniform law... doesn't matter there is no Azaan on loudspeakers on day as well, I am absolutely OK with it. I believe in term SECULARISM and i don't think it exists in India.

But when u take a step, if shud be uniform and apply to every community, society and religion.

 

[JaDed]

Nope not in Jammu city and I was talking about your great country "The India" no need to be bitter all the time you need to accept the bitter truth.India is a pseudo secular country with pseudo patriots.

Jammu and Kashmir is the state and Muslims are majority there,and it's part of India,as I said if u have issues u can move out ,be part of the solution if u want ,and u r the bitter person here,I don't have to accept anything u say, neither u do what I say,but surely if someone hates something they would try not to be there..so yeah take the clue listen to ur heart.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sorry but then i need Azaan on loudspeakers for waking me up for FAJR prayers and after prayers i sleep again and then I need Mandir AARTIS to wake me up, they help me to be on time for my college.

look if u talk about noise pollution.... then like i said earlier, loudspeakers are as harmful during the night as they are during the day...
look somewhere in banglore recently Azaans for Fajr were banned and AARTIS were allowed...
I said earlier i am for uniform law... doesn't matter there is no Azaan on loudspeakers on day as well, I am absolutely OK with it. I believe in term SECULARISM and i don't think it exists in India.

But when u take a step, if shud be uniform and apply to every community, society and religion.

You can use alarm clocks for waking up.

The law is uniform.No loudspeakers from 11pm to 6am.Be it mosque temple DJ political rally marriage anything.

Secularism has a very wide definition.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There is no bigger crime or smaller crime.A crime is a crime.

Its pathetic that people like you make fun of religious beliefs of others.Respect others faith or god forbid someone may disrespect yours.

I don't know why you feel I was making fun of anyone's religious beliefs in that statement. If anything I was expressing sympathy.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You can use alarm clocks for waking up.

The law is uniform.No loudspeakers from 11pm to 6am.Be it mosque temple DJ political rally marriage anything.

Secularism has a very wide definition.

Doesnt the beef ban go against Secularism?

How about when cows hold up traffic and people are worried about rushing them?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Doesnt the beef ban go against Secularism?

How about when cows hold up traffic and people are worried about rushing them?

You talk about how anyone who talks about non Islamic Pakistan is a traitor, and then you talk about secularism.



No it doesnt.It respects someones religion.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You talk about how anyone who talks about non Islamic Pakistan is a traitor, and then you talk about secularism.



No it doesnt.It respects someones religion.

Pakistan is an Islamic republic and doesnt claim to be secular.

So India is secular but then bans the slaughter of cows because of religion. Hypocrisy.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistan is an Islamic republic and doesnt claim to be secular.

So India is secular but then bans the slaughter of cows because of religion. Hypocrisy.

Then Pakistanis shouldnt ask others about secularism.Pakistanis are unable to follow secularism but questions others secularism.That is Hypocrisy.

Just like Freedom of Speech doesnt give anyone to insult others's religion, secularsim doesnt give the right to kill another religions sacred beings and insult that religion. Dont try to understand secularism, its beyond you stick to your ideology.

 

[big_gamer007]

So is there any justice done yet? Any attackers being caught or is this issue died down?? Unless you send a strong message against mob violence it will continue to happen pathetic from he state government if they let attackers go unpunished..
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

 

[cricketjoshila]

So is there any justice done yet? Any attackers being caught or is this issue died down?? Unless you send a strong message against mob violence it will continue to happen pathetic from he state government if they let attackers go unpunished..

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

Havent followed this incident.But strict action is needed againist the cow vigilantes and the bovine madness has to be stopped.

 

[CricketCartoons]

So is there any justice done yet? Any attackers being caught or is this issue died down?? Unless you send a strong message against mob violence it will continue to happen pathetic from he state government if they let attackers go unpunished..

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] [MENTION=137142]JaDed[/MENTION]

But first catch those who slaughtered the cow. If you can't punish them for this crime, then you should not punish the mob who committed the crime only in reaction.

 

[Talented]

The Muslim countries you talk about profess to be Islamic countries. So in those countries its norm for Islamic law and customs to be followed.

While India carries out the charade of being a secular country. If India declared itself as a Hindu Rashtra then not many would point out the obvious hypocrisy.

Learn to follow logic

This has been discussed to death on many online and offline forums and it is clear secularism that India follows is giving equal importance to all religion. It is not separation of religion and state.
Hindus feel offended by killing of cows then it must be respected.Now don't bring to me how ancient texts include instances of beef eating. It simply doesn't matter. Hinduism isn't an organised religion. They dont follow any book literally.People are free to adopt different views according to current generation and period. If most hindus feel offended by killing of cows and as long as it doesn't deny non Hindus their right to life by not allowing them to kill cows then so be it.
Islam doesn't specifically recommend eating beef. So abstaining from eating cows meat doesn't hurt Muslim sentiments. You guys are hypocrites of first order.

 

[big_gamer007]

But first catch those who slaughtered the cow. If you can't punish them for this crime, then you should not punish the mob who committed the crime only in reaction.

Yes of course everyone who breaks the law should be punished.. If the people are guilty of committing cow slaughter they should be punished, what's the punishment for cow slaughter? Jail term or fine any iidea?
They should be punished as per the law..

But mob violence is a very very serious crime which needs to be stopped dead in its track and there should not be any excuse for anyone involved in mob violence...

 

[big_gamer007]

Havent followed this incident.But strict action is needed againist the cow vigilantes and the bovine madness has to be stopped.

Ok thanks if you find anything on this incident please post here and tag me..

 

[Talented]

Havent followed this incident.But strict action is needed againist the cow vigilantes and the bovine madness has to be stopped.

Bovines are safe to eat sunnyji.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Then Pakistanis shouldnt ask others about secularism.Pakistanis are unable to follow secularism but questions others secularism.That is Hypocrisy.

Just like Freedom of Speech doesnt give anyone to insult others's religion, secularsim doesnt give the right to kill another religions sacred beings and insult that religion. Dont try to understand secularism, its beyond you stick to your ideology.

lol. Indians have no idea about secularism, they voted in a religious right wing party not a secular party. Im British Pakistani and live in the UK. Here secularism means religious people dont get any special favours. The slaughter of cows for beef which is eaten by people around the world will never be banned for the happiness of one group. This is true secularism, stick to Hindutva ideology which you are more knowledgeable of.

 

[cricketjoshila]

lol. Indians have no idea about secularism, they voted in a religious right wing party not a secular party. Im British Pakistani and live in the UK. Here secularism means religious people dont get any special favours. The slaughter of cows for beef which is eaten by people around the world will never be banned for the happiness of one group. This is true secularism, stick to Hindutva ideology which you are more knowledgeable of.

What happens in UK has nothing to do with India.In Europe people are allowed to make cartoons of revered personalities and make fun of them.Thats their version of freedom of speech.You support that?Because i remember very well what your views on Charlie Hebdo was.India doesnt allow such things in the name of freedom of speech so no one can insult any religion.

Similarly secularism means everyone is free to practice their religion.But no one is allowed to insult another religion.Cow is a sacred animal of Hindus its killing is insulting their religion so its banned.

Your hypocrisy is well known.You whine when freedom of speech is used to for things that you dont appreciate and want them to be stopped.But want complete freedom for your own ideology even if others have objections to it.

I dont want my country to be a hindu republic and dont call people who dont support that as a traitor.

 

[KingKhanWC]

What happens in UK has nothing to do with India.In Europe people are allowed to make cartoons of revered personalities and make fun of them.Thats their version of freedom of speech.You support that?Because i remember very well what your views on Charlie Hebdo was.India doesnt allow such things in the name of freedom of speech so no one can insult any religion.

Similarly secularism means everyone is free to practice their religion.But no one is allowed to insult another religion.Cow is a sacred animal of Hindus its killing is insulting their religion so its banned.

Your hypocrisy is well known.You whine when freedom of speech is used to for things that you dont appreciate and want them to be stopped.But want complete freedom for your own ideology even if others have objections to it.

I dont want my country to be a hindu republic and dont call people who dont support that as a traitor.

You can rant and rave about how India is a great but the reality is India is a 3rd world country who has elected Hindu extremists. Since then people have been killed over cows. To even suggest India is a secular country is a joke not worth laughing at. I suggest you get out of the 3rd world and travel to western secular nations and learn.

 

[www787]

Yes of course everyone who breaks the law should be punished.. If the people are guilty of committing cow slaughter they should be punished, what's the punishment for cow slaughter? Jail term or fine any iidea?
They should be punished as per the law..

But mob violence is a very very serious crime which needs to be stopped dead in its track and there should not be any excuse for anyone involved in mob violence...

It won't stop. And, why i think it won't stop because this law has "religion" factor in it. Your leader won't speak against so called "cow vigilantes" because it will hurt his base, he may condemn it here and there but that condemnation will come with also holding responsible those (only Muslims) that has to do anything with cows (transporting, feeding, petting, milking, "but only if you are Muslim"). People will continue to die because anyone can accuse anyone of hurting cow.

This "Blasphemy" law is design to make happy couple of groups, and which are uneducated hindu extremists and educated hindu extremists. And, for this reason, I think India can't call itself a secular nation yet.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You can rant and rave about how India is a great but the reality is India is a 3rd world country who has elected Hindu extremists. Since then people have been killed over cows. To even suggest India is a secular country is a joke not worth laughing at. I suggest you get out of the 3rd world and travel to western secular nations and learn.

In reality you dont have an answer.You want others freedom opinion acts ideas to be curtailed if it offends you but want your own ideology acts ideas to be unhindered even if they offend others.That is hypocrisy.You have been totally exposed here.

Regarding extremism, well we know where people like OBL Baitullah Mehsud Hafeez saeed lived or live.Where UN sanctioned organisations like LeT or JuD are functioning.That is extremism and terrorism.Declaring someone extremist on PP doesnt make him extremist.It only shows frustration.

To even hear someone who believes that anyone who doesnt want Pakistan to be islamic republic is a traitor talk about secularism and giving other countries a certificate on secularism is a joke i can laugh all day.

India is an emerging economy and is considered one of the most promising economies in the world, far ahead of Pakistan.So give your advise regarding what 3rd world countries should do, to your countrymen in Asia.

 

[www787]

In reality you dont have an answer.You want others freedom opinion acts ideas to be curtailed if it offends you but want your own ideology acts ideas to be unhindered even if they offend others.That is hypocrisy.You have been totally exposed here.

Regarding extremism, well we know where people like OBL Baitullah Mehsud Hafeez saeed lived or live.Where UN sanctioned organisations like LeT or JuD are functioning.That is extremism and terrorism.Declaring someone extremist on PP doesnt make him extremist.It only shows frustration.

To even hear someone who believes that anyone who doesnt want Pakistan to be islamic republic is a traitor talk about secularism and giving other countries a certificate on secularism is a joke i can laugh all day.

India is an emerging economy and is considered one of the most promising economies in the world, far ahead of Pakistan.So give your advise regarding what 3rd world countries should do, to your countrymen in Asia.

Status is still a 3rd world country. Status hasn't changed yet regardless of how much more money it has generated than Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Status is still a 3rd world country. Status hasn't changed yet regardless of how much more money it has generated than Pakistan.

If only you could decide Indias status.

 

[www787]

If only you could decide Indias status.

I knew you would be irritated by this fact, instead of agreeing with fact you would make a personal comment. But fact doesn't change just because it irritate you, which is India is still consider as a 3rd world country.

 

[www787]

If only you could decide Indias status.

And before you remind me that Pakistan is also a 3rd world country, we all know it is. No one is denying that fact, because we aren't delusional.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I knew you would be irritated by this fact, instead of agreeing with fact you would make a personal comment. But fact doesn't change just because it irritate you, which is India is still consider as a 3rd world country.

India is an emerging country.Why would i be irritated?If your wishes would reality may be i would, but they are not.

 

[www787]

India is an emerging country.Why would i be irritated?If your wishes would reality may be i would, but they are not.

You don't know what my wishes are, so, stop assuming.

I presented you a fact, which is India is still consider a 3rd world country and since you have no fact to deny it you are resorting to assume my "wish" when you clearly have no clue about my wish.

India is an emerging country but it is still a 3rd world country, get your fact correct.

 

[CanadianG00se]

You don't know what my wishes are, so, stop assuming.

I presented you a fact, which is India is still consider a 3rd world country and since you have no fact to deny it you are resorting to assume my "wish" when you clearly have no clue about my wish.

India is an emerging country but it is still a 3rd world country, get your fact correct.

No denying that India is 3rd World country. Its gonna take around 25-30 years of continous progress for India to uplift mass population from below poverty line.

 

[big_gamer007]

It won't stop. And, why i think it won't stop because this law has "religion" factor in it. Your leader won't speak against so called "cow vigilantes" because it will hurt his base, he may condemn it here and there but that condemnation will come with also holding responsible those (only Muslims) that has to do anything with cows (transporting, feeding, petting, milking, "but only if you are Muslim"). People will continue to die because anyone can accuse anyone of hurting cow.

This "Blasphemy" law is design to make happy couple of groups, and which are uneducated hindu extremists and educated hindu extremists. And, for this reason, I think India can't call itself a secular nation yet.

It won't stop I know but one can hope it stops.. Mob violence is not just related to cow vigilantism it's been increasing slowly for other issues as well where the mob takes law in their own hands.. This needs to be stopped ASAP its the biggest failure of BJP government if they don't do anything to stop this menace..