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As strategists parse the nearly 20 Indian-Americans appointed in the Biden administration, noteworthy are those who didn’t make it.

Obama administration staffer Sonal Shah as well as Amit Jani, who worked on the Biden campaign team, have so far been excluded, allegedly due their RSS-BJP links, which has been brought into the limelight by over a dozen Indian-American organisations.

Biden’s team has people like senior diplomat Uzra Zeya, who had played a role in the Devyani Khobragade case, or Samira Fazili, who had joined protest rallies in the US against the CAA, NRC and the Kashmir lockdown. But those with RSS-BJP links have not found a place as secular Indian-American organisations have maintained the pressure on the Biden-Harris transition team to keep such individuals on the sidelines, said sources.

The Democrats may have been more circumspect over accommodating pro-BJP-RSS elements in the government following renewed activism by organisations opposed to the Hindutva project and also after witnessing the fate of such candidates, added the sources.

Congressional candidate Sri Preston Kulkarni lost the elections after strident opposition from Indian-American organisations and former US Congressperson Tulsi Gabbard also lost political ground because of this reason.

Sonal Shah has served on Biden’s unity task force but her father was the president of Overseas Friends of BJP-USA and is the founder of RSS-run Ekal Vidyalaya for which she has raised funds.

Jani’s may have been the case of lax vetting. Name Biden campaign’s ‘Muslim Outreach’ coordinator, he was re-appointed National Asian American and Pacific Islander Director after it was pointed out that his family had ties with PM Modi and other BJP leaders.

To ensure the Biden administration does not backtrack on excluding those with RSS-BJP links, 19 Indian-American organisations have written to Biden pointing out that many South Asian-American individuals with ties to far-right Hindu organisations in India are affiliated with the Democratic Party.

Key omissions

Sonal Shah: Obama admn ex-staffer, she served in Biden’s unity task force. Her father was Overseas Friends of BJP-USA chief and founded RSS-run Ekal Vidyalaya

Amit Jani: He was the ‘Muslim Outreach’ coordinator of ‘Name Biden’ campaign. His family reportedly has ties with PM Modi and other BJP leaders

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/joe-biden-keeps-dems-with-rss-bjp-links-out-201733
 
Kamala Harris herself is pretty hated by the BJP. Also not surprising it's the Indian organisations who helped highlight these far right BJP lovers. A lot of Indians in the west do see who the BJP and RSS really are, so credit to them. I have seen many Indians in the UK too change their view on BJP over the last year.
 
The precedent has been set, good on Biden [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] as i said you didn’t see the campaigns , there is a shift internally in Democratic party.. it’s going to be tough for GOI..compared to under Trump but should be good for Indian Biz
 
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LOL

Biden the lefty politican with rightwing views.

His VP is a BJP sympathiser.

Move on.
 
Good stuff.

Show the Sanghis where they belong.
 
CricketCartoons said:
Biden should go one step further and declare RSS a terrorist organization.
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That aint going to happen because as i said the Americans dont care about anything to do with desis, they just see them as a cash cows to pay for tables at fund raising events, and as long as the BJP/RSS do that they will get what they want.
 
Bewal Express said:
That aint going to happen because as i said the Americans dont care about anything to do with desis, they just see them as a cash cows to pay for tables at fund raising events, and as long as the BJP/RSS do that they will get what they want.
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That logic holds true for whole world not just Americans, Pakistani govnt had no issue dealing with Vajpayee-Rss govn either
 
Technics 1210 said:
LOL

Biden the lefty politican with rightwing views.

His VP is a BJP sympathiser.

Move on.
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She isn’t, you are confusing her with Tulsi.. , if she was a BJP sympathizer you would had seen her in BJP overseas rally.

She isn’t the Liberal ethnic Goddess that everyone portrays her to be either but tbf to her she isn’t biased towards BJP or Blacks, she is an Establishment candidate though, probably a Tech backer.
 
Pakpak said:
Kamala Harris herself is pretty hated by the BJP. Also not surprising it's the Indian organisations who helped highlight these far right BJP lovers. A lot of Indians in the west do see who the BJP and RSS really are, so credit to them. I have seen many Indians in the UK too change their view on BJP over the last year.
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Well she's half Black and Half Tamil. Some Indians are extremely racist and they despise black people and Tamils.
 
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JaDed said:
She isn’t, you are confusing her with Tulsi.. , if she was a BJP sympathizer you would had seen her in BJP overseas rally.

She isn’t the Liberal ethnic Goddess that everyone portrays her to be either but tbf to her she isn’t biased towards BJP or Blacks, she is an Establishment candidate though, probably a Tech backer.
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Harris is no progressive. She wouldn’t even be considered a leftie in Europe.

She has disgusting record. Especially towards African-Americans.

Hard on minorities and the poor, soft on Wall Street. That’s Biden-Harris for you.
 
JaDed said:
She isn’t, you are confusing her with Tulsi.. , if she was a BJP sympathizer you would had seen her in BJP overseas rally.

She isn’t the Liberal ethnic Goddess that everyone portrays her to be either but tbf to her she isn’t biased towards BJP or Blacks, she is an Establishment candidate though, probably a Tech backer.
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He's still coping with the Trump loss, ignore him.

Kamala sucks to be honest. She locked up so many people (allegedly in more ethnic areas disproportionately) for weed. All these establishment democrats need to go, or at least move over to the Republican party.

Yep, I'm still salty about Bernie.
 
miandadrules said:
Harris is no progressive. She wouldn’t even be considered a leftie in Europe.

She has disgusting record. Especially towards African-Americans.

Hard on minorities and the poor, soft on Wall Street. That’s Biden-Harris for you.
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I actually just was reading on it, its pretty shocking stuff. Shows us what politics really is, all £££££ and sloganeering.
 
We have Prithi Patel in Britain who is a right wing BJP Modiand Israel supporter. Surely none of them American ladies come close to this bully.
 
Some semblance of normalcy appearing in American Politics
 
For now and for the forseeable future, BJP and India are one and the same. 60-70% of Indians appear to support Modi and his government, and this has been the case since he came to power. If all the controversies could not support his popularity, it will have to see something massive (ala Trump insurrection). This will however stop or stymy BJP influence within the US government, so there's a positive. But if they are expecting this as a way to send a message to India, it's not going to make much difference.
 
Don't be fooled. Biden will use his close members to infiltrate India's nationalism for warmongering reasons, just as he used his son with Ukraine and China.
 
In Biden team, a cousin of man held in J&K under PSA post-August 5

Sameera Fazili, one of the 20 Indian-Americans who will be part of the Joe Biden Administration, has a unique India connect: her cousin Mubeen Shah was among those held under the Public Safety Act (PSA) in the Valley clampdown coinciding with the scrapping of the special status of Jammu and Kashmir. Shah’s mother and Fazili’s father are siblings, and the family had tapped into their Washington and Delhi connections to help secure his release.

Fazili was picked by the new US President as Deputy Director of the National Economic Council (NEC), a policy body that is part of the White House. She had been a senior advisor in the NEC during the Obama Administration.

Shah was released in December 2019, and his is a rare case in which the J&K administration withdrew the PSA.

Fazili’s sister Yousra Fazili, a human rights lawyer, was among the Kashmiris who testified at the November 2019 US Congressional hearing on the situation in the Valley. She spoke in detail about her cousin’s sudden arrest, his health condition and how members of her Srinagar-based family had gone “from jail to jail in Srinagar” trying to find out where he had been taken. She said she could not begin to describe how closely knit the entire family was.

In her testimony, Yousra added that she and Fazili had dialled friends in the State Department on learning about Shah’s arrest on August 8, 2019. And that they were only able to confirm he was imprisoned in Agra after the State Department placed an “informational request” with the Indian government on his status.

“My cousin Mubeen has been made an example of. His imprisonment sends a strong signal to the people of Kashmir that money, family and status mean nothing in the face of Indian capriciousness,” she said in her testimony, going on to talk about how “armed forces are conducting night raids on homes and pulling young men and boys from their beds into military custody” in Kashmir.

Her cousin, she said, was “not a politician or a dissident, he isn’t a freedom fighter, or even a kid in the street throwing stones. He’s just a businessman. His life’s work has focused on bringing economic opportunity to Kashmir”.

Shah, who is based in Malaysia and owns a crafts business, was arrested when visiting Kashmir along with his wife. Belonging to one of the most prominent families of Kashmir, Shah has at various times headed the Kashmir Chamber of Commerce and Industry, the Jammu & Kashmir Joint Chamber of Commerce and Industry, and a body active on both sides of the border to promote trade across the Line of Control that was started in 2008 and is at a halt since India discontinued it in 2019.

Another family member, a niece of the Fazili sisters and Shah, is the India-based head of an international trade services’ association and also worked behind the scenes for his release, using her connections at the highest levels of government, sources said.

Shah’s arrest had also been mentioned by Indian-American Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal at the first US Congressional hearing on Kashmir on October 22, 2019, who flagged his poor health. She wanted to know if the State Department had raised the matter of his arrest with the Indian government, and was assured by Alice Wells, then Acting Assistant Secretary for South and Central

Asian Affairs, that the US government had taken up Shah’s case with Delhi.

Following the intervention by the Fazili sisters, their Delhi-based niece and Jayapal, Shah’s wife and his brother had been able to visit him in Agra.

On December 6, 2019 — incidentally the same day as Jayapal introduced a bipartisan resolution in the House of Representatives urging the Indian government to end the restrictions on communications and the mass detentions in J&K — Shah was “temporarily” released. Two days later, the J&K administration informed the Supreme Court, in reply to a petition moved by his wife, that it had “permanently revoked” the PSA against Shah.

In October 2020, incidentally, the J&K Police said they were seeking to arrest Shah through Interpol over a purported Facebook post by him. J&K Director General of Police Dilbagh Singh said they had registered a case for the post that allegedly targeted non-local people living in the Valley. The DGP said they had initiated the process to declare Shah a proclaimed offender and attach his properties in Kashmir. But there has been no movement on this.

Fazili is one of two Kashmiri-origin members in the Biden team. The other is Aisha Shah, the partnership manager at the White House office of Digital Strategy. Married with three children, Fazili has degrees from Harvard and Yale, and is a community development finance expert. She was born in the US, where her doctor parents migrated to in 1970-71.

Speaking to The Sunday Express from Malaysia, Shah said, “We are happy as a family that Sameera has taken an important position in the United States government.”

https://indianexpress.com/article/i...n-held-in-jk-under-psa-post-august-5-7159296/
 
Good job! This removed my concerns over appointments of Indian American (sympathizers to Modi regime)
And now we can celebrate this unprecedented, history making cabinet appointees as one big desi cammunity cause this is a pretty big deal :wy

I know in UK it's normal to have desis in high profile positions but this never happens in US (because of our size) but it's good to see punching us above our weight and getting to high profile positions

But I would go further and say any overt sympathizer of any foreign government/organization/opposition party should never be given security clearance meaning they can never hold an important office

This will mean that no congress, PTI, or german SPD party's overt sympathizer with german, Indian, Pakistani desent should ever get security clearance or hold any public office
 
miandadrules said:
Harris is no progressive. She wouldn’t even be considered a leftie in Europe.

She has disgusting record. Especially towards African-Americans.

Hard on minorities and the poor, soft on Wall Street. That’s Biden-Harris for you.
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That's US for you

But at the same time in larger sceme of things it worked (not the minorities part) and is working for US
So why fix something that ain't broken maybe fiddle around with it but by and large business interests helped US prosper
 
Bigboii said:
That's US for you

But at the same time in larger sceme of things it worked (not the minorities part) and is working for US
So why fix something that ain't broken maybe fiddle around with it but by and large business interests helped US prosper
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Why you say it helped the US, I have to ask, who in the US truly benefited and at what cost? The US just like every other country has power concentrated among a select few.

And yes, they benefit, at whatever cost is necessary to the rest.
 
miandadrules said:
Why you say it helped the US, I have to ask, who in the US truly benefited and at what cost? The US just like every other country has power concentrated among a select few.

And yes, they benefit, at whatever cost is necessary to the rest.
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For a 360 mil plus pop living standards are phenomenal
They wouldn't be that way without businesses

Everyone benefitted but not equally agreed

but inequality doesn't matter does it?

If with business interests rich person is getting rich by 1000% or something
But middle/lower classes are also seeing their incomes rise by about 10_20% than whats the problem

Does inequality really matter if everyone is benefiting but just not equally?
If that's the case than business intrest is not such a bad deal for everyone in society
 
JaDed said:
The precedent has been set, good on Biden [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] as i said you didn’t see the campaigns , there is a shift internally in Democratic party.. it’s going to be tough for GOI..compared to under Trump but should be good for Indian Biz
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Our discussion was about how the changes in US administration will affect the Kashmir issue. I stand by what i said. Isolate the Kashmir issue in your mind when it comes to India US relationship. Nothing will change there. In other business, some things might change.

On a side note, looks like there will be a bit of arm twisting by the US administration against India now. For the new US administration to have India as a counter balance against China in the region, US will try and make sure that India looks like a secular democracy. This is only because of how Pakistan is highlighting Indian regime's fascism at every platform. Otherwise even Saudi Arabia is US ally but there is no country to play the role of Pakistan there (also the US interests are greater there).
 
Madplayer said:
Our discussion was about how the changes in US administration will affect the Kashmir issue. I stand by what i said. Isolate the Kashmir issue in your mind when it comes to India US relationship. Nothing will change there. In other business, some things might change.

On a side note, looks like there will be a bit of arm twisting by the US administration against India now. For the new US administration to have India as a counter balance against China in the region, US will try and make sure that India looks like a secular democracy. This is only because of how Pakistan is highlighting Indian regime's fascism at every platform. Otherwise even Saudi Arabia is US ally but there is no country to play the role of Pakistan there (also the US interests are greater there).
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My predictions couple of months ago before elections I think
(It's from a different thread so excuse some of the unrelated substance in this post)

I really believe this is the way Biden Administration will go down with india

Bigboii said:
It's good and bad

Dems don't like human rights problems that's why their relations with Pakistan were bad compared to rep (before Pakistanis get too excited...)

so this can also hurt India because of Modi (this is a real possibility but don't expect solid actions or something, India is still a democracy and the US respect most democracies because it's a bit harder to defend actions against democratically elected countries)
but I 150% expect him to pay lip service down the line against Hindu nationalism in India

but I think he should improve the relationship with India because India is becoming more and more important in the grand scheme of things for the US to counter China (with the help of other allies because we saw what happened just a couple of months ago when India was all alone)

Now the most important thing the US/Biden should do with India is to end their neutrality b* they want to enjoy the best of both worlds but we can't allow that happen

give them "Plata o plomo" or a bit of both but make sure they get in line with US foreign policy against China they're making a fool out of the US as of know

we can't/shouldn't deal with China problem alone we need strong Allies to counter China just like we had western Europe to stop USSR quad nations should hep US (if China is stopped its better for them than it is for the US because we are thousands of miles away but Quad is directly threatened by China)
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Bigboii said:
My predictions couple of months ago before elections I think
(It's from a different thread so excuse some of the unrelated substance in this post)

I really believe this is the way Biden Administration will go down with india
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This looks like how things are going to be. We'll have to see though how the hindutva brigade handles it. US needs India in the region, make no mistake about it. How the democrats go about it is going to be interesting! And also, i am afraid time is rapidly running out for the US on the CPEC front. You know what that means for the region.
 
Madplayer said:
Our discussion was about how the changes in US administration will affect the Kashmir issue. I stand by what i said. Isolate the Kashmir issue in your mind when it comes to India US relationship. Nothing will change there. In other business, some things might change.

On a side note, looks like there will be a bit of arm twisting by the US administration against India now. For the new US administration to have India as a counter balance against China in the region, US will try and make sure that India looks like a secular democracy. This is only because of how Pakistan is highlighting Indian regime's fascism at every platform. Otherwise even Saudi Arabia is US ally but there is no country to play the role of Pakistan there (also the US interests are greater there).
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So in short Democrats will make BJP accountable on fascism and also help India counter Pakistan,China? Lol I see this as a win-win if it happens irrespective lets see how it plays.
 
JaDed said:
So in short Democrats will make BJP accountable on fascism and also help India counter Pakistan,China? Lol I see this as a win-win if it happens irrespective lets see how it plays.
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"Accountable" is a very strong word. I'd say they'll offer (at least) lip service about it. Not sure if they'll take any concrete actions. But overall, yes thats what i mean.

Win-win? Not sure brother. They'll try to "help" India (or help themselves?) from a few continents away but does that guarantee an Indian win in the region? What happens if all of these plans fail? Who will be left at the mercy of hostile adversaries in the neighborhood? Especially when there is a fascist government in the Indian centre which will be justification enough for belligerent actions against India, diplomatically speaking.

If you ask me, geopolitically speaking, the situation is dire for India and its pretty much a lose lose situation. India has also been adopting an almost isolationist approach in the region. There are so many more factors at play, so many. As far as my opinion is concerned, the writing is on the wall for India. I hope me and my people remain shielded in all of it.
 
Madplayer said:
If you ask me, geopolitically speaking, the situation is dire for India and its pretty much a lose lose situation. India has also been adopting an almost isolationist approach in the region. There are so many more factors at play, so many. As far as my opinion is concerned, the writing is on the wall for India. I hope me and my people remain shielded in all of it.
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I disagree but lets see ... our socialist agenda and non alignment movements caused all of our major issues before 1991, next 5 years we should get a better picture.
 
JaDed said:
I disagree but lets see ... our socialist agenda and non alignment movements caused all of our major issues before 1991, next 5 years we should get a better picture.
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Lets see how it goes. And i agree that next 5 years will be really crucial.
 
Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Sunday urged the new US administration of President Joe Biden to recognise that the world, Pakistan and specifically India have changed a lot in the last four years, hence any engagement and relations should be developed on the basis of new ground realities.

Addressing a press conference in Multan, Qureshi said he had a "short message" for the new US administration. "In [these] four years [since the previous Democrat administration] the world has changed, the region has changed and Pakistan has changed and you have to engage with this new Pakistan," said Qureshi, further adding, "India has changed. Is it the same shining and secular India today? No."

He pointed out that voices from within India were rising and confirming that it is not a secular India, it is "a new face of Hindutva, a new practical demonstration of the thinking of the RSS. Minorities in India are finding themselves to be insecure."

The foreign minister said based on this new reality, the PTI government hoped to engage with the new US administration based on a "new approach and new guidelines".

"I understand that there is a lot of similarity [between] the United States' current thinking and our policies," said Qureshi. He further mentioned that he had penned a letter to the incoming US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, updating him about the trajectory of Pakistan's current policies and looked forward to having more talks on the issue with him in the coming days.

"We have made a very big shift, from a geo-strategic position to a geo-economic position," said the foreign minister.

'You have constitutionally accepted Imran Khan as the prime minister'
Qureshi also addressed PPP Chairman Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari's suggestion of a no-confidence motion to the opposition's Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) against the incumbent government. The PPP chairman had hinted at such a course of action during a press conference in Larkana on Friday.

Qureshi welcomed the idea, terming it a "constitutional measure". He added that the PTI government and its allies were confident that they are "in a position to confront and defeat it in a constitutional and parliamentary manner."

"Now it is clear from this, Bilawal when you say you will bring a no-confidence motion, it means you have constitutionally accepted Imran Khan as [your] prime minister," said the foreign minister, adding that Imran Khan was the prime minister, which is why Bilawal wanted to bring a no-confidence motion against him.

In light of the above situation, he advised the PPP chairman to "stop saying that he [Imran Khan] is [a] selected prime minister, he is [an] elected prime minister and [the] people of Pakistan have elected him."

He said the no-confidence motion vindicated his stance that the PDM was an "unnatural" alliance since they first agree on a united position then eventually disagree, referring to the PDM's changing stances on the issue of resignations and the long march to Islamabad.

"They will scatter and you are seeing that has [already] started."

Will never hurt interests of an allied state
In response to a question from a reporter regarding reservations of certain allied Arab states over recent decisions taken by Pakistan, the foreign minister clarified, "We haven't signed any agreement that hurts the interests of an allied state."

"We have never done, and will never do such an agreement which causes damage to any brother Muslim state."

Qureshi pointed out Pakistan's relationship with Azerbaijan in this regard. He said Turkey and Pakistan had openly supported and congratulated Azerbaijan on its "big success" in reclaiming its occupied territory. As a result of that support, Qureshi said, after Azerbaijan's victory, the flags of Turkey and Pakistan were waved in the streets by the citizens of Azerbaijan. "We hadn't handed them [flags], this was the people's emotions, acceptance and tribute to Pakistan."

He also addressed the recent restriction by the United Nations for its employees against travelling aboard any Pakistani airline and said it was a "temporary measure, not a permanent one" and the issue will soon be resolved. "We are sad and we are pained that these inadequacies were present in our system [...] and because of that our airlines and genuine pilots faced difficulties."
 
JaDed said:
I disagree but lets see ... our socialist agenda and non alignment movements caused all of our major issues before 1991, next 5 years we should get a better picture.
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What socialist agenda? Wouldn't free healthcare, affordable university, and social welfare help the poorest in Indian society? A more social democratic system (perhaps even with a market socialist economy) would do wonders for the huge inequity in India, a country with the biggest disparity between the elite and the poor.
 
Tubs said:
What socialist agenda? Wouldn't free healthcare, affordable university, and social welfare help the poorest in Indian society? A more social democratic system (perhaps even with a market socialist economy) would do wonders for the huge inequity in India, a country with the biggest disparity between the elite and the poor.
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Check out their history they tried Democratic sociolism but it crashed their economy and because of that they had to liberalise
Now even though inequality is rising but at the same time most of the people in the economy is seeing thier income rise
 
I don't get Indians. The day we have to man nearly a million soldiers into one small province and lock it down or kidnap it's citizens is the day I'll happily give it independence. If we have to do the same to Balochistan where we have to post nearly 800,000 soldiers there then they can have their independence.

Biden won't do anything to annoy India, the US needs India to needle China. I expect more support diplomatically and even militarily being given to India. It's important for Pakistan to keep on warming our ties with the Russians and improve our economy. One day when the RSS and Hinduvta brigade is replaced with someone reasonable then maybe peace can happen.
 
Tubs said:
What socialist agenda? Wouldn't free healthcare, affordable university, and social welfare help the poorest in Indian society? A more social democratic system (perhaps even with a market socialist economy) would do wonders for the huge inequity in India, a country with the biggest disparity between the elite and the poor.
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IMHO socialism is easier to implement when you have exploited rest of the world, not when u r setting up a new country with such a huge illiterate population.

I believe in capitalism with laws against monopoly, esp for countries laying their foundation.

We suffered enough till 1991.. and now delaying the farm laws will hurt us again unfortunately, hopefully we don’t miss the bus once again
 
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JaDed said:
IMHO socialism is easier to implement when you have exploited rest of the world, not when u r setting up a new country with such a huge illiterate population.

I believe in capitalism with laws against monopoly, esp for countries laying their foundation.

We suffered enough till 1991.. and now delaying the farm laws will hurt us again unfortunately, hopefully we don’t miss the bus once again
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The economic liberalization was going to happen in 1968, but there were huge protests against foreign investment, so it was called off. Finally it happened in 1991 when there was no choice left and country was on the brink.

in india everyone wants govt job, subsidies and waivers, but only a tiny fraction pay income tax.
 
CricketCartoons said:
The economic liberalization was going to happen in 1968, but there were huge protests against foreign investment, so it was called off. Finally it happened in 1991 when there was no choice left and country was on the brink.

in india everyone wants govt job, subsidies and waivers, but only a tiny fraction pay income tax.
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So wouldnt it be better if the government comes up with a better mechanism to ensure most people pay taxes? Maybe even invest heavily in such a mechanism.
This rather than making controversial farm laws and all.
 
Madplayer said:
So wouldnt it be better if the government comes up with a better mechanism to ensure most people pay taxes? Maybe even invest heavily in such a mechanism.
This rather than making controversial farm laws and all.
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Muftkhori and even haramkhori has become second nature of indians. If laws are introduced that everyone above taxable income will have to pay taxes, there is going to be protest again with accusation of fascism and vendetta. But the present govt cannot blame others, when they are responsible for people (non bjp supporters, who are still majority) not trusting them, so a deed no matter how good is seen with suspicion.

I brought many jobs to india and got silver certificate of appreciation for paying taxes but now planning tax evasion, so that I pay minimum tax and donate the money i save. Not worth it to bring jobs and pay taxes when it goes to the unowrthy (which includes politicians as well). Planning to settle as a farmer growing my own food in a farmhouse.
 
Bigboii said:
For a 360 mil plus pop living standards are phenomenal
They wouldn't be that way without businesses

Everyone benefitted but not equally agreed

but inequality doesn't matter does it?

If with business interests rich person is getting rich by 1000% or something
But middle/lower classes are also seeing their incomes rise by about 10_20% than whats the problem

Does inequality really matter if everyone is benefiting but just not equally?
If that's the case than business intrest is not such a bad deal for everyone in society
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I think you’re referring to trickle down economics. Which is usually propagated by those in power.

If you’re as wealthy as the US, you should have universal health care, no homelessness and no hungry children. Yet, we have obscene concentrations of wealth, which are generational.

Whereas, the workers, who are the main main generators of wealth, receive the least and are treated the worst.

Of course inequality matters, as it’s leads to abuse of power. Decisions are made to favour the elites, at whatever cost to the rest.

Sorry for the short reply, but happy to carry on the discussion, there just might be long delays to my replies.
 
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