Joe Biden: Former President of the United States

[Robert]

The HoR wanted an excuse to get rid of Trump because he beat the establishment and the best they could come up was an allegation was Trump colluded with Russia - Trump was innocent. Comey's firing is neither here nor there. What was more important was once again the MI6 producing a fake document trying to implicate Trump.

The mainstream and and facts? Right.

If you want facts here is one - the investigation into Trump was invoked not by the House of Reps, but the Department of Justice.

 

[Robert]

Biden: ‘Priority’ For Economic Business Relief To Be Made Based In Part On Race, Gender

https://www.dailywire.com/news/bide...siness-relief-to-be-made-based-on-race-gender

Biden posted his policy via a video on his Twitter account, and lets just say, the reaction hasn't been a positive one.

Straight off the bat, a racist policy.

An anti-racist policy to try to reduce structural and systemic race-based inequality.

Of course people who don't understand their white privilege will kick against this.

 

[IMMY69]

Always worth another watch

https://youtu.be/0_v00iGJCLY

 

[Firebat]

William Burns: Biden nominates veteran diplomat as CIA director

US President-elect Joe Biden has chosen William Burns, who served for three decades as a diplomat, to be his CIA director.

Mr Burns led the Obama administration's negotiations with Iran to reach a landmark nuclear deal in 2015. Before that he served as ambassador to Russia.

He is currently the president of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, an international think-tank.

If confirmed by the Senate, he would be the first career diplomat in the post.

The president-elect, who takes office on 20 January, has asked Congress to confirm his national security team as close to his inauguration as possible.

Mr Burns retired from the US Foreign Service in 2014 after a 33-year career at the state department, serving under both Republican and Democratic presidents. He holds the highest rank in the Foreign Service, career ambassador.

In a statement, Mr Biden said: "[Mr Burns] shares my profound belief that intelligence must be apolitical and that the dedicated intelligence professionals serving our nation deserve our gratitude and respect."

Mr Burns served as deputy secretary of state under former President Barack Obama, ambassador to Russia and Jordan, and assistant secretary of state for near eastern affairs.

Recently, he has written articles critical of the Trump administration's policies and, last August, warned about the risks of President Donald Trump not accepting an election defeat.

"If he loses, I doubt that he will suddenly embrace the traditional bipartisan commitment to effective transitions. At best, he'll be consumed by efforts to rationalise his defeat and paint the election as rigged; at worst, he'll seek to contest or undermine the result," he wrote in the Atlantic.

Mr Biden's priorities in national security and foreign policy include plans to revive the Iran nuclear deal after President Trump withdrew the US from it in 2018. He has also nominated:

General Lloyd Austin as his defence secretary: the 67-year-old who retired in 2016 would become the first African-American to lead the Pentagon

Antony Blinken as secretary of state: the 58-year-old's work relationship with Mr Biden goes back nearly 20 years

Jake Sullivan as national security adviser: he is a former state department official and Hillary Clinton aide who also played a key role in negotiating the Iranian deal

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55619279

 

[Technics 1210]

If you want facts here is one - the investigation into Trump was invoked not by the House of Reps, but the Department of Justice.

Impeachment and investigation was invoked by HoR, by non other than Nancy P.

DoJ carry out the investigation.

 

[Technics 1210]

An anti-racist policy to try to reduce structural and systemic race-based inequality.

Of course people who don't understand their white privilege will kick against this.

Yes, because low class, struggling, whites do not exist in the USA :/

Well done to Biden, not a day in office and he's already dividing the US.

 

[Stewie]

Impeachment and investigation was invoked by HoR, by non other than Nancy P.

DoJ carry out the investigation.

Explain the term invoke.
You are grievously misguided here. The legislative branch doesn’t “invoke”
Anything. The DOJ and judiciary act independently. Rod Rosenstein who was the deputy attorney general after the AG Sessions recused himself, authorized the investigation (all involved were republicans here) just like the investigation into Hilary’s email server was very motivated by Comey (another Republican) under Obama’s administration. They work totally independently and are not obligated to do anything if the executive and legislative branches ask them to do something without enough evidence. There was enough evidence and the Mueller investigation ended up with 8 guilty pleas and plenty of indictments. Just because it was outside their legal purview to indict a sitting president.. doesn’t mean the investigation was a sham or a hoax, the outcome states otherwise.

 

[IMMY69]

I hope Biden didn't promise a wall which would be paid by the Mexicans!

 

[Bigboii]

‘Fact’ and ‘likely’ don’t belong in the same sentence.

Biden’s huge task is firstly to get COVID under control, and secondly to tackle climate change - the latter is an incalculably larger threat to humanity than any local war, and one which Trump claimed didn’t exist. Get USA back in the Paris Agreement and start pushing development of green tech.

First of all cherry picking who gives a flying you know what with fact and likely going together you know what I meant

Secondly what does covid and climate change have to do with the point I was making

If you disagree that Biden is more likely to start a war than Trump than tell your reasoning

Cause other things I already agree with you

 

[Technics 1210]

It will be interesting to see how many of Trump's decisions Biden will reverse; including tariffs on China and pulling out of the Iran deal.

 

[Stewie]

First of all cherry picking who gives a flying you know what with fact and likely going together you know what I meant

Secondly what does covid and climate change have to do with the point I was making

If you disagree that Biden is more likely to start a war than Trump than tell your reasoning

Cause other things I already agree with you

What makes you think that Biden WILL in fact start a war?

Because for all intents and purposes, at the moment Iran is the only country on USA’s radar. There are no other so called “threats”. Most middle eastern countries have caved in and accepted Israel.

John Bolton under Trump was itching for a war with iran. He didn’t get it. They undid the Iran deal and the trump admin conducted assassinations of Irani officials to stoke fears of war.

Under Obama, there was a Iran deal which trump admin undid and by and large most experts say Biden will continue Obama’s policy.

So I fail to see why you believe IS will start a war and against who?

 

[Robert]

First of all cherry picking who gives a flying you know what with fact and likely going together you know what I meant

Secondly what does covid and climate change have to do with the point I was making

If you disagree that Biden is more likely to start a war than Trump than tell your reasoning

Cause other things I already agree with you

Things that have happened are facts. Things that are likely to happen are not, they are conjecture.

I don’t think Biden will start new wars because:

- He has the two bigger fish to fry that I mentioned.
- He doesn’t need to grab anyone’s oil as USA is energy self-sufficient now.

 

[Technics 1210]

I wonder how large Biden's inauguration crowd will be given the risks of C19, and recent FBI warnings.

 

[Robert]

I wonder how large Biden's inauguration crowd will be given the risks of C19, and recent FBI warnings.

DC Mayor is telling people to stay at home. Might just be Biden, Pence, Bush, Clinton, their wives, and about 5000 National Guardsmen.

 

[Stewie]

At least now Trump can rightly claim his inauguration crowd size was bigger than Biden’s. Hahahah

 

[KoyoAli]

Trump supporters planning armed protests ahead of Biden inauguration, FBI warns

The FBI has warned of possible armed protests across the US as Trump supporters and far-right groups call for demonstrations before Joe Biden is sworn in as president.

There are reports of armed groups planning to gather at all 50 state capitols and in Washington DC in the run-up to his 20 January inauguration.

Security will be tight for the event after a pro-Trump mob stormed Congress.

House Democrats say a vote to impeach the president will happen on Wednesday.

They accuse President Trump of "incitement of insurrection" and say the vote will be held unless Vice-President Mike Pence invokes constitutional powers to remove Mr Trump from office. There is no sign Mr Pence is prepared to do so.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-55625707?__twitter_impression=true

 

[Technics 1210]

DC Mayor is telling people to stay at home. Might just be Biden, Pence, Bush, Clinton, their wives, and about 5000 National Guardsmen.

Bush the warmongering President who must be tried for war crimes. Clinton, the only living US President to be impeached for going incognito in the oval office; and Pence, the Evangelical Satanist. What great company!

Biden deserve's this moment in history. He's earned it. A failure, fake, and fickle President-Elect personified by the lack of an inauguration crowd - nobody reads the small print.

 

[Robert]

Biden unveils $1.9T benefits package.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55670801

 

[Technics 1210]

Biden unveils $1.9T benefits package.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55670801

LoL! Trump tried the same and his package was refused.

Don't think Biden is doing anything special. HoR simply like Biden cos he doesn't have the balls to stand against the establishment.

When Biden reverses Trump's decisons, including, removing China tariffs, rejoins Iran deal, then his actions will be news worthy.

 

[Firebat]

'No time to waste': Biden unveils $1.9tn coronavirus stimulus package

Joe Biden has unveiled a $1.9tn coronavirus relief proposal, aimed at urgently combating the pandemic and the economic crisis it has triggered. As the US faces its deadliest stage of the pandemic, Biden described the moment as “a crisis of deep human suffering”.

The ambitious, wide-ranging plan includes $160bn to bolster vaccination and testing efforts, and other health programs and $350bn for state and local governments, as well as $1tn in relief to families, via direct payments and unemployment insurance.

“There’s no time to waste,” Biden said. “We have to act and we have to act now.”

Details of the aid package had been released by Biden’s transition team earlier on Thursday.

If adopted, the proposal would tack on $1,400 to the $600 in direct payments for individuals that Congress approved most recently. “We will finish the job of getting a total of $2,000 in relief to people who need it the most,” Biden said.

Supplemental unemployment insurance would also increase to $400 a week from $300 a week and would be extended to September.

“During this pandemic, millions of Americans, through no fault of their own, have lost the dignity and respect that comes with a job and a paycheck,” Biden said on Thursday, speaking from Wilmington, Delaware. “There is real pain overwhelming the real economy.”

Biden ran on the promise that he would deliver Americans through the coronavirus crisis, and more recently has pledged to ramp up vaccination efforts, and oversee the administering of 100m covid-19 jabs during his first 100 days.

s having gained an edge over Republicans in the Senate, the Democratic leader Chuck Schumer has said Biden’s Covid-19 relief package will be his top priority, even as the legislative body contends with the impeachment trial of Donald Trump.

In passing the proposal, Biden has an ally in Bernie Sanders, the Vermont senator and former presidential contender, who will soon be at the helm of the powerful Senate budget committee. As chair of the committee, Sanders will have control of budget reconciliation, a process that allows Congress to expedite some legislation.

The “rescue plan will begin to provide our people with much-needed support”, Sanders said.

Biden has also called on lawmakers to extend a national eviction moratorium, which expires on 31 January.

Housing advocates have been pressing Biden to extend and bolster a federal ban on evictions in recent weeks and months, and they have asked him to additionally include funds for rental assistance in relief proposals. His current plan includes $30bn in rental and utility assistance for those struggling to pay bills. Advocates are also asking Congress to cancel any rent or mortgage debt incurred during the pandemic.

The president-elect said that while “these plans won’t come cheaply”, a failure to act “will cost us dearly”.

Still, several provisions in the president-elect’s plan could face resistance, including his bid to have Congress raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour. As a candidate, Biden signaled that raising the minimum wage would be a top priority. But Republicans have long opposed such a move. The Republican Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, blocked a minimum wage increase in 2019, and Republicans filibustered a minimum wage increase effort in 2014.

So far the plan has, however, united two diametrically opposed forces – Democratic socialist Sanders and big business. The US Chamber of Commerce, an influential lobbying organization that represents business interests, praised Biden’s proposal.

“We applaud the president-elect’s focus on vaccinations and on economic sectors and families that continue to suffer as the pandemic rages on,” the group said in a statement. “We must defeat Covid before we can restore our economy.”

The proposal will be Biden’s first test of his ability to work with a divided Congress and make good on his promise to pull the country out of the coronavirus crisis.

“Come Wednesday, we begin a new chapter,” Biden said.

Trump’s leadership during the pandemic has been erratic. He backed “Operation Warp Speed” to quickly develop vaccines and treatments, but also picked fights with leading government scientists like Dr Anthony Fauci and his own appointees at the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Biden has pledged to take his lead from science, and has named Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, as his top medical adviser. He has tapped businessman Jeff Zients, who has a reputation for successfully tackling complex missions, to coordinate the government’s coronavirus response. He has also selected the Yale medicine professor Dr Marcella Nunez-Smith, to head an effort to ensure equity and fairness for racial and ethnic minorities in access to vaccines and treatments.

But he will need more than top-résumé talent, experts say. It is still unclear how the new administration will address the issue of vaccine hesitancy, with many Americans, including a worryingly high percentage of healthcare workers, saying they are wary of getting a shot.

Next Wednesday, when Biden will be sworn in as president, marks the first anniversary of the first confirmed case of Covid-19 in the United States.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/14/joe-biden-coronavirus-stimulus-package

 

[Markhor]

Right, now the circus is drawing to a close we can get back to serious policy matters and 2021 continues to pleasantly surprise.

I feared Biden would pander to the austerity crowd but the COVID stimulus proposal goes further than I expected, and if passed by Congress would make a huge difference.

- $2000 stimulus check to Americans.
- Emergency paid sick leave.
- Funding for 100,000 public health workers.
- $110bn investment into vaccination rollout, testing expansion, PPE and upscaling domestic production.
- $130bn to help schools reopen safely.
- Extending eviction and foreclosure moratoriums through September.
- Expanding tax credits for children and low income workers.
- Hundreds of billions investment into small businesses.
- $350bn funding for state and local governments.

Whether that gets through Congress, especially centrist Senators like Manchin and Sinema, remains to be seen. I hope Biden doesn't waste too much time trying to win over obstructionist Republicans, just pass it through budget reconciliation.
[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] [MENTION=17315]Stewie[/MENTION] [MENTION=151956]Bigboii[/MENTION]

 

[KingKhanWC]

Right, now the circus is drawing to a close we can get back to serious policy matters and 2021 continues to pleasantly surprise.

I feared Biden would pander to the austerity crowd but the COVID stimulus proposal goes further than I expected, and if passed by Congress would make a huge difference.

- $2000 stimulus check to Americans.
- Emergency paid sick leave.
- Funding for 100,000 public health workers.
- $110bn investment into vaccination rollout, testing expansion, PPE and upscaling domestic production.
- $130bn to help schools reopen safely.
- Extending eviction and foreclosure moratoriums through September.
- Expanding tax credits for children and low income workers.
- Hundreds of billions investment into small businesses.
- $350bn funding for state and local governments.

Whether that gets through Congress, especially centrist Senators like Manchin and Sinema, remains to be seen. I hope Biden doesn't waste too much time trying to win over obstructionist Republicans, just pass it through budget reconciliation.
[MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] [MENTION=17315]Stewie[/MENTION] [MENTION=151956]Bigboii[/MENTION]

Where is he getting the money from? More borrowing and if so how much debt will increase?

 

[Markhor]

Where is he getting the money from? More borrowing and if so how much debt will increase?

Same way Trump blew over a trillion for useless tax cuts to benefit his wealthy donors.

An economic emergency in the midst of a pandemic is not the time to worry about deficit spending. This is a must to revive the economy and relieve the hardship of those suffering.

 

[GenericBrand]

Same way Trump blew over a trillion for useless tax cuts to benefit his wealthy donors.

An economic emergency in the midst of a pandemic is not the time to worry about deficit spending. This is a must to revive the economy and relieve the hardship of those suffering.

Keynesian Economics back at it.

How long do you reckon before the GOP start showing concern about the deficit all of a sudden

 

[Robert]

25,000 National Guardsman and 10,000 Police on duty for the inauguration. Fences going up. Razor wire on top, like in jails. This is unreal.

 

[Technics 1210]

Where is he getting the money from? More borrowing and if so how much debt will increase?

Don't belive the hype from the LL. They do not understand economics, if they did they'd under understand austerity is the cause.

Past Presidents and their stimulus plans have also helped big corporations and doners, including Obama who not only bailed out the banks, but funded them through relentless QE. Remember, the president of change, Obama, hired the same cronies that cause the 2008 crash.

LL are blinded by their illogical hate of Trump to the extent they do not realise they're hypocrits.

My advise to you, if you want to know what the LL are thinking in the UK - read the Guardian, cos they just rehash lefty articles.

LL read the Guardian cos it's lefty, and cos it's free. Cheap skates. You give them too much credit. Number of posts doesn't equate to quality.

 

[JaDed]

Not gonna be good for Indian govn..

https://frontline.thehindu.com/dispatches/us-president-elect-joe-biden-inducts-second-kashmir-born-expert-in-his-team-leading-to-speculation-of-a-boost-to-international-human-rights-groups-activism-on-kashmir/article33579468.ece

 

[Madplayer]

Not gonna be good for Indian govn..

https://frontline.thehindu.com/disp...roups-activism-on-kashmir/article33579468.ece

India doesnt need to worry about US on Kashmir at all. US is backing India against China. Thats the geopolitical game right now in our region and its not going to change until India receives serious setbacks in an escalated military conflict and is no longer useful to the US empire.

 

[JaDed]

India doesnt need to worry about US on Kashmir at all. US is backing India against China. Thats the geopolitical game right now in our region and its not going to change until India receives serious setbacks in an escalated military conflict and is no longer useful to the US empire.

Not really, if you saw Biden’s campaigns you will be know, also this is a Liberal govn unless they indulge in a war where they forget about Kashmir for time being but if they aren’t involved in a war they ll focus their energies on right wing govns incl Turkey, India etc

Also tbf to Sameera she is a great choice .. highly qualified .

 

[HasanA]

Biden: ‘Priority’ For Economic Business Relief To Be Made Based In Part On Race, Gender

https://www.dailywire.com/news/bide...siness-relief-to-be-made-based-on-race-gender

Biden posted his policy via a video on his Twitter account, and lets just say, the reaction hasn't been a positive one.

Straight off the bat, a racist policy.

Only a white supremacist sympathiser would say that economic policies which overhelmingly impact people of color during economic and healthcare events and aid focused on them in racist. It’s racist because almost all white folks live in privileged position in society so either you are white or a white man worshipper

 

[Madplayer]

Not really, if you saw Biden’s campaigns you will be know, also this is a Liberal govn unless they indulge in a war where they forget about Kashmir for time being but if they aren’t involved in a war they ll focus their energies on right wing govns incl Turkey, India etc

Also tbf to Sameera she is a great choice .. highly qualified .

You seem geopolitically naive. Long story short, Biden is not a threat to Indian interests in Kashmir. Rest is jabberwock.

 

[Oxfordchamp]

Only a white supremacist sympathiser would say that economic policies which overhelmingly impact people of color during economic and healthcare events and aid focused on them in racist. It’s racist because almost all white folks live in privileged position in society so either you are white or a white man worshipper

biden nominates 20 indian americans to key roles.


https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad...nistration-2353700?pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories

 

[Bigboii]

biden nominates 20 indian americans to key roles.


https://www.ndtv.com/indians-abroad...nistration-2353700?pfrom=home-ndtv_topstories

How's that related to the post?
Or you just wanted to get it out of your system

 

[Oxfordchamp]

How's that related to the post?
Or you just wanted to get it out of your system

his tenure will be influenced by all these indians in key roles..all major policies

 

[Technics 1210]

Only a white supremacist sympathiser would say that economic policies which overhelmingly impact people of color during economic and healthcare events and aid focused on them in racist. It’s racist because almost all white folks live in privileged position in society so either you are white or a white man worshipper

Are you telling me that there are no whites struggling in the USA who deserve support on a priority basis?

Of course not to say anything of Blacks who have a far greater quality and successful life in the USA compared to other countires in the world - the best country for black communities in the world is USA. Blacks dominate sport, music, arts, and slowley shifting into politics in the USA. Struggling my foot.

A couple of police brutality videos sensatioanlised by the the media are not representative of the wider picture.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Same way Trump blew over a trillion for useless tax cuts to benefit his wealthy donors.

An economic emergency in the midst of a pandemic is not the time to worry about deficit spending. This is a must to revive the economy and relieve the hardship of those suffering.

Two issues with this.

1. People need to be clearly told this is not money the US has to give away, it will increase their debt which is nearing 30Trillion. This while foriegn nations are no longer willing to buy US bonds(loans). China is cutting down/dumping their bonds, others will follow leading to a huge crash in the years to come.

2. Raising taxes on large companies at the same time will ensure more job losses and liqudation.

This wont end well in 4 years time.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Biden will have MANY monumental obstacles and tasks ahead of him: COVID and the economic fallout, balancing the moderate and progressive wings of the Dem party, enacting real change with the slimmest of majority in both the House and the Senate.

I saw a guy on CNN say that what Biden and the Dems have to do is forget politics and help Americans. Thats the only thing they will see when they vote in 2022, not ideology. Whether its a $2000 stimulus check, or universal basic income, or medicare for all...if Biden and the Dems fail to actually give tangible results - they will be toast in 2022 and 2024.

 

[JaDed]

Biden will have MANY monumental obstacles and tasks ahead of him: COVID and the economic fallout, balancing the moderate and progressive wings of the Dem party, enacting real change with the slimmest of majority in both the House and the Senate.

I saw a guy on CNN say that what Biden and the Dems have to do is forget politics and help Americans. Thats the only thing they will see when they vote in 2022, not ideology. Whether its a $2000 stimulus check, or universal basic income, or medicare for all...if Biden and the Dems fail to actually give tangible results - they will be toast in 2022 and 2024.

So basically he has to be a populist just to win... ? Is that how GEN z and Millenials threatening the govn now?

Whats the diff between Evangelicals and them thrn?

 

[Robert]

Biden will have MANY monumental obstacles and tasks ahead of him: COVID and the economic fallout, balancing the moderate and progressive wings of the Dem party, enacting real change with the slimmest of majority in both the House and the Senate.

I saw a guy on CNN say that what Biden and the Dems have to do is forget politics and help Americans. Thats the only thing they will see when they vote in 2022, not ideology. Whether its a $2000 stimulus check, or universal basic income, or medicare for all...if Biden and the Dems fail to actually give tangible results - they will be toast in 2022 and 2024.

It’s more about saving American lives and livelihoods at this point.

If a decent GOP candidate triumphs in 2024 so be it. Anything is better than the societal cancer and creeping fascism of Trump.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It’s more about saving American lives and livelihoods at this point.

If a decent GOP candidate triumphs in 2024 so be it. Anything is better than the societal cancer and creeping fascism of Trump.

I think you need to do so basic research.

The democrats are also facists. Hilary Clinton has openly spoken in fascist terms regarding black people. Find it , its interesting.

 

[MenInG]

Emotional Biden says 'when I die, Delaware will be written in my heart'

Joe Biden has made a final speech before setting off to Washington DC where he will be sworn in as the 46th president of the United States tomorrow.

The president-elect started with saying, "it's kind of emotional" before thanking the people of Delaware and the nation for their support.

He said it is "deeply personal that our next journey to Washington starts here, a place that defines a place that best defines Americans".

"I know we are in dark times, but there is light," he said.

"I am truly honoured to be your next president".

Overcome with emotion, Mr Biden said: "When I die, Delaware will be written in my heart".

He added: "Delaware has taught us anything is possible".

 

[MenInG]

'Threat is high' as two National Army Guards removed from inauguration security mission

Olivia Troye, former homeland security adviser to Mike Pence, says she is "not surprised the threat is high" after two US National Army Guards were removed from the security mission for Joe Biden's inauguration - as we reported on a little earlier.

"I have been concerned about this being an ongoing threat and I'm not surprised that the threat is high".

She said she was concerned over inside job threats, but was confident the "checks are working" as the two individuals were found out.

Going forward, Ms Troye said it raises questions on how the US is going to deal with "these kinds of domestic issues and terrorism".

 

[Nadeemp]

People comparing republican nuts with democratic nuts ( yes there are nuts on both sides) need their head examined. There is no comparison.

 

[Nadeemp]

Any president from any party who is following up after trumps epic failures is going to suffer. Trump is leaving the country in total shambles in EVERY aspect. Very hard to recover from this in the short term.

 

[Stewie]

Deepest ever divisions in the nation
Highest Covid death toll in the world
Economy in disarray
~50% of the nation asking for blood and refusing to listen to reason regarding covid


It’s a terrible situation to walk into. I just hope people at least are more serious about the threat of the virus and open to vaccinations if nothing else. Need to be done and over this pandemic so we can get on with our lives.

 

[Nadeemp]

Deepest ever divisions in the nation
Highest Covid death toll in the world
Economy in disarray
~50% of the nation asking for blood and refusing to listen to reason regarding covid


It’s a terrible situation to walk into. I just hope people at least are more serious about the threat of the virus and open to vaccinations if nothing else. Need to be done and over this pandemic so we can get on with our lives.

Will be brutal 2 years before we see some hope

 

[Technics 1210]

Biden got lucky with Covid 19. Trump stated many times a vaccine would be found before the end of 2020. He was spot on.

Biden will not face the same challenges as Trump, who had to guide USA on the back of iffy guidance from WHO.

The vaccine is being rolled out, and all Biden has to do is ensure it is.

Biden is riding on the coat-tails of Trump when it comes to handling C19.

 

[Nadeemp]

Biden got lucky with Covid 19. Trump stated many times a vaccine would be found before the end of 2020. He was spot on.

Biden will not face the same challenges as Trump, who had to guide USA on the back of iffy guidance from WHO.

The vaccine is being rolled out, and all Biden has to do is ensure it is.

Biden is riding on the coat-tails of Trump when it comes to handling C19.

After seeing trumps response to the pandemic i would need let him run my neighborhood tandoor.

 

[Robert]

I think you need to do so basic research.

The democrats are also facists. Hilary Clinton has openly spoken in fascist terms regarding black people. Find it , its interesting.

I think you need to look up the definition of fascist and consider the tactics - personality cult, nationalism, demonisation of the press, intellectuals, courts, institutions, science and certain racial or religious groups. Does this fit Trumpism? Clearly. Does it fit the Democrats? No.

And then read Clinton’s remarks on certain gang kids who are devoid of empathy in context.

 

[Robert]

Deepest ever divisions in the nation
Highest Covid death toll in the world
Economy in disarray
~50% of the nation asking for blood and refusing to listen to reason regarding covid


It’s a terrible situation to walk into. I just hope people at least are more serious about the threat of the virus and open to vaccinations if nothing else. Need to be done and over this pandemic so we can get on with our lives.

Sure. Trump deliberately stoked the culture war to a point unmatched since the Civil War. Disgusting individual who never wanted to serve, merely to rule to satisfy his monster ego. Deserves jail for the rest of his life.

Add to that 400k deaths with no sign of slowing down and an economy teetering.

Biden has his work cut out. But he’s a decent guy who cares about people and I believe will give his best in this last stand of his political life. Forty-plus years of public service have prepared him for this enormous final challenge.

 

[MenInG]

Joe Biden is to be sworn in as US president, taking the helm of a nation wracked by political division, economic anguish and an unrelenting pandemic.

Vice-President-elect Kamala Harris will take the oath of office alongside him in Washington DC, which has been fortified amid fears of civil unrest.

Some 25,000 troops will guard the inauguration ceremony after a deadly riot at the Capitol earlier this month.

Donald Trump will leave the White House for the last time, bound for Florida.

Americans' hopes and fears for Biden's presidency
He will not be attending the inauguration ceremony.

How will inauguration day unfold?
Mr Biden will be sworn in as 46th president of the United States by Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts shortly before midday (17:00 GMT) on Wednesday outside the US Capitol.

Due to Covid restrictions, the ceremony will be bereft of the cheering throngs of well-wishers traditional at inaugurations. It will also see extra-tight security after the US Capitol was breached by violent pro-Trump protesters on 6 January.

Among those present will be three former presidents: Barack Obama - whom Mr Biden served for eight years as vice-president - Bill Clinton and George W Bush.

What happens at the inauguration?
Outgoing Vice-President Mike Pence will also attend the ceremony, skipping Mr Trump's farewell event at a military base outside the nation's capital.

Aides say Mr Biden, a Democrat, will use his inaugural address of about half an hour to deliver an optimistic call for national unity after his Republican predecessor's turbulent tenure.

Minutes beforehand, Vice-President-elect Harris will be sworn in, becoming the first black and Asian-American elevated to serve in a role a heartbeat from the presidency.

There will be musical performances from Lady Gaga - who will sing the national anthem - Jennifer Lopez and Garth Brooks.

An evening concert at the Lincoln Memorial in the city will be hosted by Tom Hanks and include Bruce Springsteen, John Legend, Jon Bon Jovi, Justin Timberlake, and Demi Lovato.

Mr Biden, a Catholic, plans to attend Mass on Wednesday morning at a cathedral in the city with the four top congressional leaders - Republicans and Democrats.

What is Trump doing?
Mr Trump will become the first president not to attend his successor's inauguration since Andrew Johnson snubbed Ulysses S Grant in 1869.

He will host a farewell ceremony at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland on Wednesday morning before catching a final flight on Air Force One to begin post-presidential life at his Mar-a-Lago golf club in Palm Beach.

In his last hours, Mr Trump granted clemency to more than 140 people, including his former adviser Steve Bannon, who is facing fraud charges.

A pardon was announced for rapper Lil Wayne and commutations for rapper Kodak Black and former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick.

In a farewell video message on Tuesday, Mr Trump called on Americans to pray for the incoming administration, though he did not mention his successor by name.

He said he was proud of what he had achieved over the past four years, highlighting his Middle East peace deals and his record as the first president in decades not to start any wars.

But the political drama surrounding him is far from over. The US Senate is expected to put him on trial soon, following his record second impeachment by the House of Representatives for allegedly inciting the Capitol riot.

On Tuesday, the Senate's Republican leader, Mitch McConnell, said the mob had been provoked by Mr Trump and fed lies.

 

[ahsan17]

Biden got lucky with Covid 19. Trump stated many times a vaccine would be found before the end of 2020. He was spot on.

Biden will not face the same challenges as Trump, who had to guide USA on the back of iffy guidance from WHO.

The vaccine is being rolled out, and all Biden has to do is ensure it is.

Biden is riding on the coat-tails of Trump when it comes to handling C19.

He also said the pandemic will go away in a few days like magic, then it will go away by easter, then it will go away magically in the summer. His leadership has largely been non-existent when it comes to covid.

 

[LongHorn]

Large European nations have suffered as much as America with Covid, there was no Trump so why did they suffer ? Some of them had nationwide mask mandates since September.

Even within America California suffered the most though they had the longest lockdowns and mask mandates, compare them with Florida....

 

[Saj]

The world will undoubtedly be hoping for a more stable tenure from this US President after the turmoil of the past few years.

 

[Rajdeep]

More people attended and cheered for Trump's farewell speech in Maryland than Biden's inaguration

 

[KingKhanWC]

Farce of an event. Full of war criminals, corrupt politicians working for big companies talking about democray. This is expected but what is interesting is this old, ill President has mentioned civil war. He must know what's coming.

The world is watching with a smile on it's face, knowing the decline of the US is in full swing.

 

[MenInG]

More people attended and cheered for Trump's farewell speech in Maryland than Biden's inaguration

Think this would be because of precautions.

 

[Rajdeep]

Aplogies but I am not against democracy. I am only against giving certain section of people more privilege or doing appeasement politics in the name of democracy.

Lets look at some of the events from today's inaguration. First Joe Biden spoke about white supremacy. Was it really required in inauguration speech?Then Amanda Gorman, a young black lady speaking in stage about black lives matter, equality etc. Though everyone agrees about equality and humanity but why it always need to be addressed via a black person? Are we saying other races dont face harassment and inequality? Why it is always black lives matter? Cant it be all lives matter?

Now there is another guy name Silvester Beaman taking about slavery that black people faced. How is it relevant today? Who is taking about plights of white person that faces prejudice in United States? Why the podium is always given to black person to play victim card in the name of democracy?

If a layman watched the inauguration events today, they will draw 2 conclusions - White pople are supremacists and black people are victims.

I am not a fan of Donald Trump's reckless behaviour but the reason he attracted such a mass following because he spoke harsh realities which people neglected due to political correctness and in the name of democracy.

 

[Technics 1210]

Hillarious! Biden had to hire people to fill up the crowd. Mostley band players.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Aplogies but I am not against democracy. I am only against giving certain section of people more privilege or doing appeasement politics in the name of democracy.

Lets look at some of the events from today's inaguration. First Joe Biden spoke about white supremacy. Was it really required in inauguration speech?Then Amanda Gorman, a young black lady speaking in stage about black lives matter, equality etc. Though everyone agrees about equality and humanity but why it always need to be addressed via a black person? Are we saying other races dont face harassment and inequality? Why it is always black lives matter? Cant it be all lives matter?

Now there is another guy name Silvester Beaman taking about slavery that black people faced. How is it relevant today? Who is taking about plights of white person that faces prejudice in United States? Why the podium is always given to black person to play victim card in the name of democracy?

If a layman watched the inauguration events today, they will draw 2 conclusions - White pople are supremacists and black people are victims.

I am not a fan of Donald Trump's reckless behaviour but the reason he attracted such a mass following because he spoke harsh realities which people neglected due to political correctness and in the name of democracy.

Good post. Democrats are more responsible for the huge race hate which is now sweeping through America. The majority of America is white but today have been made to feel like 2nd class citizens in a foriegn nation. He also mentioned civil war. IT wont be a civil war it will be a race war, even if it's small battles at a time for many years even decades to come now.

 

[Robert]

I’m choked up. I don’t mind admitting some moist eyes. The four-year aberration is over. Decent, competent people are back in charge of the USA.

Looks like Senator McConnell is turning on Trump too, so impeachment may succeed after all.

Now if only we get can decent competent people to run the UK too!

 

[Robert]

Aplogies but I am not against democracy. I am only against giving certain section of people more privilege or doing appeasement politics in the name of democracy.

Lets look at some of the events from today's inaguration. First Joe Biden spoke about white supremacy. Was it really required in inauguration speech?Then Amanda Gorman, a young black lady speaking in stage about black lives matter, equality etc. Though everyone agrees about equality and humanity but why it always need to be addressed via a black person? Are we saying other races dont face harassment and inequality? Why it is always black lives matter? Cant it be all lives matter?

Now there is another guy name Silvester Beaman taking about slavery that black people faced. How is it relevant today? Who is taking about plights of white person that faces prejudice in United States? Why the podium is always given to black person to play victim card in the name of democracy?

If a layman watched the inauguration events today, they will draw 2 conclusions - White pople are supremacists and black people are victims.

I am not a fan of Donald Trump's reckless behaviour but the reason he attracted such a mass following because he spoke harsh realities which people neglected due to political correctness and in the name of democracy.

The first thing to do is admit the inequality. Much structural change must come before black lives matter as much as white lives in USA. President Biden wants to fix this inequality and has put a marker down straight away. Good man!

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I congratulate President <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoeBiden</a> on his inauguration. Look forward to working with <a href="https://twitter.com/POTUS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@POTUS</a> in building a stronger Pak-US partnership through trade & economic engagement, countering climate change, improving public health, combating corruption & promoting peace in region & beyond</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1351936403584774151?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2021</a></blockquote>
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[Stewie]

Aplogies but I am not against democracy. I am only against giving certain section of people more privilege or doing appeasement politics in the name of democracy.

Lets look at some of the events from today's inaguration. First Joe Biden spoke about white supremacy. Was it really required in inauguration speech?Then Amanda Gorman, a young black lady speaking in stage about black lives matter, equality etc. Though everyone agrees about equality and humanity but why it always need to be addressed via a black person? Are we saying other races dont face harassment and inequality? Why it is always black lives matter? Cant it be all lives matter?

Now there is another guy name Silvester Beaman taking about slavery that black people faced. How is it relevant today? Who is taking about plights of white person that faces prejudice in United States? Why the podium is always given to black person to play victim card in the name of democracy?

If a layman watched the inauguration events today, they will draw 2 conclusions - White pople are supremacists and black people are victims.

I am not a fan of Donald Trump's reckless behaviour but the reason he attracted such a mass following because he spoke harsh realities which people neglected due to political correctness and in the name of democracy.

According to FBI, white supremacy is a major threat to the security of the country and has surpassed radical Islamic terrorism in the last few years. Why would you not mention it? It is the presidents obligation to point it out and work on eliminating it. The recent attempted takeover of the capitol included majority white supremacist groups. The alt right has held a number of rallies in the last few years resulting in violence and blood shed.

 

[Stewie]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/04/white-supremacists-terror-threat-dhs-409236

 

[Rajdeep]

The first thing to do is admit the inequality. Much structural change must come before black lives matter as much as white lives in USA. President Biden wants to fix this inequality and has put a marker down straight away. Good man!

Thats fine but then dont call it a democracy. Minority appeasement is not democracy. What is the inequality black people faces in modern times anyway? I see fair share of black representation in every field in USA. Heck, the ex president was African American. Black lives matter was a leftist political movement and it makes me sick that so many people falls for such propaganda.

Today Joe Biden talked about White Supremacists and no one bats an eyelid. Imagine he said something so openly about blacks....the world will go bonkers and riots will start.

 

[Stewie]

Thats fine but then dont call it a democracy. Minority appeasement is not democracy. What is the inequality black people faces in modern times anyway? I see fair share of black representation in every field in USA. Heck, the ex president was African American. Black lives matter was a leftist political movement and it makes me sick that so many people falls for such propaganda.

Today Joe Biden talked about White Supremacists and no one bats an eyelid. Imagine he said something so openly about blacks....the world will go bonkers and riots will start.

For one, when an equal number of white people are being shot dead by cops around the country for no good reason, we can have this talk.

 

[Rajdeep]

For one, when an equal number of white people are being shot dead by cops around the country for no good reason, we can have this talk.

But George Floyd was no innocent and was a criminal. The fact that he was being made a martyr to start a political movement says it all.

Anyway, its not my headache since I have nothing to do with United States. I am closing the conversation here.

 

[IMMY69]

But George Floyd was no innocent and was a criminal. The fact that he was being made a martyr to start a political movement says it all.

Anyway, its not my headache since I have nothing to do with United States. I am closing the conversation here.

Is there a difference between ignorance and racism?

 

[Bigboii]

But George Floyd was no innocent and was a criminal. The fact that he was being made a martyr to start a political movement says it all.

Anyway, its not my headache since I have nothing to do with United States. I am closing the conversation here.

Please tell me what crime he was commiting at the time of his death?

So many people in US got felonies cause laws and thier charges are OTT so the criminal charge excuse won't work cause cops see that type of people on a daily basis

But why is it that GF was chocked to death even though a lot of people in US have felonies but cops don't go around chocking every one with felonies on sight

So injustice happened even the most right wing people agree that what happened was unlawful and cop should be charged (Rush limbaugh and his kind)

So that TTF excuse of being a criminal is not working anymore even in the US...

 

[Stewie]

Wow.. some Indians are as daft as some pro trump Pakistanis I have to say. Drinking up white nationalist kool aid by the buckets.

Amazing!

 

[KingKhanWC]

Please tell me what crime he was commiting at the time of his death?

So many people in US got felonies cause laws and thier charges are OTT so the criminal charge excuse won't work cause cops see that type of people on a daily basis

But why is it that GF was chocked to death even though a lot of people in US have felonies but cops don't go around chocking every one with felonies on sight

So injustice happened even the most right wing people agree that what happened was unlawful and cop should be charged (Rush limbaugh and his kind)

So that TTF excuse of being a criminal is not working anymore even in the US...

Didnt he hold a gun to a pregnant womans stomach in the past? Or was it fake news?

 

[Stewie]

Didnt he hold a gun to a pregnant womans stomach in the past? Or was it fake news?

Don’t care what someone has done, extra judicial killings are never ever justified. What happened to due process? Can cops simply kill people (overwhelming majority black) just because they were guilty of crimes and criminals?

Is it ok for a cop to kill an alleged drug dealer/murderer/rapist/thief, etc, when they are not resisting arrest? When you have them handcuffed? When they are unarmed?

 

[LongHorn]

For one, when an equal number of white people are being shot dead by cops around the country for no good reason, we can have this talk.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Guess what, forget equal, far more whites are killed by police than blacks in America, but MSM has brainwashed you into believing more blacks are killed than whites

 

[KingKhanWC]

Don’t care what someone has done, extra judicial killings are never ever justified. What happened to due process? Can cops simply kill people (overwhelming majority black) just because they were guilty of crimes and criminals?

Is it ok for a cop to kill an alleged drug dealer/murderer/rapist/thief, etc, when they are not resisting arrest? When you have them handcuffed? When they are unarmed?

I never suggested it was.

So it's true. He shouldnt have been murdered but not someone I would sympathise with due to him being a violent criminal threating women in such a way. He also shouldnt be made a hero with statues and paintings everywhere.

 

[LongHorn]

Can cops simply kill people (overwhelming majority black) just because they were guilty of crimes and criminals?

More whites than blacks were shot and killed by American police...

 

[HitWicket]

More whites than blacks were shot and killed by American police...

Probably best to take into account the race distribution of the population however.

 

[Stewie]

I never suggested it was.

So it's true. He shouldnt have been murdered but not someone I would sympathise with due to him being a violent criminal threating women in such a way. He also shouldnt be made a hero with statues and paintings everywhere.

I never said any of the allegations are true. I just don’t know. That aspect of the discussion is beside the point.

That’s like saying waterboarding/humiliating/killing suspect terrorists in Gitmo facilities is ok.

Like I said.. due process.

 

[IMMY69]

More whites than blacks were shot and killed by American police...

News without context is Fake news

 

[Stewie]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Guess what, forget equal, far more whites are killed by police than blacks in America, but MSM has brainwashed you into believing more blacks are killed than whites

You have absolutely no clue how to research and reach your own conclusions, do you?

Stop listening to RW media brainwashing you and reach your own conclusions. If you want to discuss, be ready to back it up using evidence.

Here is mine:

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793