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Jonny Bairstow's batting average in Test cricket is under 40 after 50+ Tests

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His batting average is now 38.40. Clearly, there is no doubt that he is a much better batsmen than what his numbers suggest.

However, the point of discussion here is that should he keep gloves or not? He is no Gilchrist and doesn't need to become one either.

He should leave keeping for whatever be the reason and play as a specialist batsmen otherwise it will continue costing England much.
 
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I've said since 2015 that he could be England's best batsman as a specialist. I know he wants the gloves but the team management must ask him to do what's best for the team and hand them over to Buttler so he can focus on his batting at 5.
 
I've said since 2015 that he could be England's best batsman as a specialist. I know he wants the gloves but the team management must ask him to do what's best for the team and hand them over to Buttler so he can focus on his batting at 5.

I've said so for longer than you have but the whole point is that Buttler won't be in the Test team for too long.
 
Very surprising as he is technically v.good but always seem to get out after starts.

For me he is the best wicket keeper batsman in world right now in tests.
 
Remember though Bairstow bats aggressively and also keeps wicket. In 67 of his 92 innings he's batted at 6 or 7 and averages between 42 and 43 batting in each position which for an excellent WK along with his ability to score quickly makes him an asset. It's his batting higher up the order that has taken his average a slight hit, which is understandable because it isn't easy to keep and bat higher.

Asad Shafiq has similar average (39.74) after a similar number of tests (60) but his stats on the other hand are actually unacceptable with his technical ability and having played nearly half of his games in UAE.
 
I've said since 2015 that he could be England's best batsman as a specialist. I know he wants the gloves but the team management must ask him to do what's best for the team and hand them over to Buttler so he can focus on his batting at 5.

Agree he should give up the gloves but Buttler is just not a Test class keeper so would it be worth bringing in a specialist keeper with the confidence that Bairstow can develop into one of the world's best batsman ? Baylis rarely gambles and prefers utility
 
Then get Ben Foakes in who was unfairly discarded. England have no shortage of keepers.

How about bringing Foakes in as specialist keeper instead of Malan who has mostly failed to make any mark barring that hundred at Perth?
 
I've said since 2015 that he could be England's best batsman as a specialist. I know he wants the gloves but the team management must ask him to do what's best for the team and hand them over to Buttler so he can focus on his batting at 5.

Buttler isn’t that much cop with the gloves. I would give them to Foakes, push Bairstow up to open and retain Buttler in the middle.
 
Jennings will get the India series, unless he's shocking. That leaves Malan, who may not make it to the team against India. Buttler isn't going anywhere after mature innings in both Tests, and hasn't played any red ball cricket to be trusted behind the stumps in a Test.

If Malan goes, then that's the only spot available. In which case? Surely, YBJ can't bat at 4? And that's too high for Stokes as well. Which means that the only way YBJ could play as a specialist batsman would be if he, Stokes and Buttler all move a spot up to give Foakes #7.

Which isn't likely because this utility player attitude is one reason that England have mostly been a rubbish team.
 
He's an aggressive batsman and bats low down the order. Stats don't do him justice, he's a great player.
 
He has been poor for a while. He was great against Pakistan but not every opposition is like Pakistan. His non contribution was a major reason behind England's poor performance in the Ashes.
 
One between Bairstow and Buttler had to be dropped.

Buttler played well in the final test and hence was retained.

Good Decision IMO. It's not the end for Bairstow but a good lesson.

Buttler has the talent but still is unproven in test cricket.
 
Bairstow doesn't deserve to be in Test team.

It is surprising that he got to play 50+ Tests.
 
To much white ball cricket has destroyed the very little decent techinic and tempremant he had in test cricket. Simply showed no patients in test matches to battle through tough situations.
 
‘My prediction is Jonny comes back stronger’ – Ed Smith on Bairstow axing

England selector Ed Smith confirmed Jonny Bairstow “hasn’t been rested” after he was left out of England’s Test squad to play New Zealand, but backed the wicket-keeper to become a “top Test match player”.

Bairstow has endured a tough time in Test match cricket with the bat, having averaged 25.91 since the start of 2018. There have been many reasons suggested for this, and while Smith didn’t offer an answer for why Bairstow has struggled, he did suggest he will have to force his way back in through weight of runs, rather than through his wicket-keeping ability.

“I wouldn’t be looking to narrow his options but I’d be looking to have a very open conversation with him,” Smith said. “I would say the primary issue which I discussed briefly with Jonny today and I’ll be discussing again when I meet up with him face to face, is getting the most out of him as a batsman.

“Currently for whatever reason it might be, whether it’s white ball, whether it’s a busy schedule, whatever it might be, whether it’s keeping wicket [we’re not getting the most out of him]. Park all that, I don’t have an explanation, but I do have an aspiration and my aspiration is that Jonny becomes a top, top Test match batsman.”

By the time the New Zealand tour starts, Bairstow will be 30 years old, and with a selection of young batsmen clamouring for selection, some have suggested the Yorkshireman concentrate on limited-overs cricket rather than try and make a success of Tests. However, Smith said Bairstow’s first-class record outside Test cricket shows he can come again at this level.

“The important thing to focus on there is Jonny was picked as a batsman for England in 2012, as the outstanding young batsman in England,” he said. “He has a non Test match first-class average of 50, which puts him alongside Joe Root; only Ollie Pope is above those two. And in the period of time that he’s been an England player, his non-Test match first-class average is 57. I think there’s a real opportunity for him to reset and focus on how he can go about becoming that really top Test match player.”

Bairstow has earned a reputation as a player who responds to setbacks well. When he was left out of England’s Test side in Sri Lanka in 2018, and then not given back the gloves when recalled, he responded by making a century in his first innings at No.3. In the Men’s Cricket World Cup too he responded to perceived media criticism and two consecutive defeats with a century against India in a pivotal game for England. The hope is that once more Bairstow digs deep to prove people wrong.

“I don’t think it’s a bad thing that every now and then people have an opportunity to reset and I think this will do Jonny good,” said Smith. “And I think it will do England good. And my prediction is he comes back stronger.”

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1356463
 
His batting average is now 38.40. Clearly, there is no doubt that he is a much better batsmen than what his numbers suggest.

However, the point of discussion here is that should he keep gloves or not? He is no Gilchrist and doesn't need to become one either.

He should leave keeping for whatever be the reason and play as a specialist batsmen otherwise it will continue costing England much.

Averaged 25 in the last two years, keeper or no.

Just gets bowled far, far too often.

Drop him from the tests and keep him for LO.
 
So this side for NZ could be:

Burns
Sibley
Pope
Root
Denly
Stokes
Buttler (a mistake, should be Foakes, unless it is succession planning for the captaincy)
Woakes
Curran
Leach
Broad

This immediately looks stronger than the team that player in the Ashes.
 
So this side for NZ could be:

Burns
Sibley
Pope
Root
Denly
Stokes
Buttler (a mistake, should be Foakes, unless it is succession planning for the captaincy)
Woakes
Curran
Leach
Broad

This immediately looks stronger than the team that player in the Ashes.

Oops, forgetting Archer, he can come in for Woakes and Curran move to #8.

No Jimmy in the squad.
 
Some technical issues with his batting.

Needs to work on those problems and I'm sure he will be back.
 
Bairstow has always looked good but somehow fails to score.

It is a poor call TBH, Bairstow has a much higher ceiling than Buttler in tests. Buttler should have been dropped for Foakes who should keep wickets in tests.
 
Some technical issues with his batting.

Needs to work on those problems and I'm sure he will be back.

Most of them from to much t20 and ODI cricket. Fishing, trying to drive balls with no feet movement, trying to whip straight balls off the stumps.

Over expansive shots.
 
Bairstow has always looked good but somehow fails to score.

It is a poor call TBH, Bairstow has a much higher ceiling than Buttler in tests. Buttler should have been dropped for Foakes who should keep wickets in tests.

Due to leaving half a metre between bat at pad.

Foakes hasn’t scored runs for Surrey all summer.
 
Same technical issues for a long sometime now, if he would have been a Pakistani player people would have criticized him like no tomorrow.

He plays with a gap between bat and pad and that gets exaggerated with his tendency to go towards the ball rather than waiting for it to come to him especially on wickets with bit of movement.
 
Yorkshire and England batsman Jonny Bairstow has been added to the Test squad for the two-match Test series against New Zealand as back-up for the injured Kent batsman Joe Denly.

Bairstow will stay in New Zealand, following the conclusion of the five-match IT20 series on Sunday at Eden Park, Auckland, for the the two warm-up matches against New Zealand Cricket XI starting in Whangarei on Tuesday.

Denly, who sustained ligament damage to his right ankle in practice ahead of the the first IT20 at the start of the month, is making progress on his rehabilitation and is hoping that he will be fit to play in the three-day warm-up match starting on Friday November 15.

England’s Test specialists arrived in Auckland this week and will travel to Whangarei on Monday with the rest of the squad and management.
 
Really dont get why england keep going back to such failures in test cricket.
 
Bairstow was doing good back then when this thread was created. There was a lot of discussion going around that he should give up keeping and now play as specialist batsman. He might well convert that average of 38 while keeping gloves to 43-44 if he plays as specialist batsman.

But things went south for him and he is currently averaging 34.
 
England need the Best of Bairstow tomorrow if they are to have a chance of making the Comeback of Comebacks !
 
England need the Best of Bairstow tomorrow if they are to have a chance of making the Comeback of Comebacks !

If Root gets a century and Bairstow chips in with fifty then I might start to believe.
 
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