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Justin Trudeau in India: Is the Canadian PM being cold-shouldered?

The only lies exposed in this thread are threefold:

1. Indians don't care about Khalistan movement.
2. Canada is earning handsomely through a not ratified uranium deal with India.
3. Canada needs Indian trade.

Despite the falsehoods above, the truth is the world doesn't revolve around India.

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Trudeau’s India trip is a total disaster, and he has himself to blame

HOW did Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, the world’s favourite liberal mascot — a feminist man, with movie-star good looks, a 50 per cent female cabinet and a political lexicon that has replaced “mankind” with “peoplekind” (making millions swoon) — end up looking silly, diminished and desperate on his trip to India this week?

Trudeau’s eight-day India expedition has been an absolute fiasco.

Hours before meeting with Prime Minister Narendra Modi, his journey hit a dead end when the Canadian high commissioner invited a Sikh extremist named Jaspal Atwal to a dinner to honour Trudeau in Delhi. Atwal was found guilty of trying to kill an Indian minister in 1986; he was also blamed for an assault on Ujjal Dosanjh, the former premier of British Columbia.

By the time Atwal’s invitation was rescinded — Trudeau called it “unfortunate” — Atwal had already posed for photographs with Trudeau’s wife, Sophie, in Mumbai, as well as with other members of his entourage.

“It’s a disaster,” Vishnu Prakash, former Indian high commissioner to Canada, said. “I am convinced Trudeau was blindsided. Whoever drew up the list screwed up and dealt him a fait accompli. But it is also symbolic of how Khalistanis have penetrated the system.”

Since Trudeau won the election in 2015, the 1980s have returned to haunt Indo-Canada ties. Sikh secessionists who supported a separate country (Khalistan) unleashed a bloodbath in the state of Punjab in the ‘80s. Indira Gandhi, then prime minister, sent the army to purge the Golden Temple (the holiest place of worship for Sikhs) of militants who were hiding inside. She was assassinated by her own Sikh bodyguards, followed by anti-Sikh riots in which more than 3,000 were killed. In 1985, the Air India jumbo jet ‘Kanishka’ flying from Montreal to Delhi was blown up by Sikh terrorists, leaving 329 people dead.

Knowing all of this, Trudeau still attended a Khalsa parade in May, where many of these militants were feted. So, his India trip was already mired in tensions when the Atwal snafu broke. Then, Canadian media released more photographs showing an apparent familiarity between Atwal and Trudeau back home. Nearly half a million Sikhs live in Canada and account for 1.4 per cent of the population. Trudeau was such a favourite among them that he is jokingly called Justin Singh. Now he has competition. Jagmeet Singh, who recently took over the reins of Canada’s New Democratic Party, is considered left of Trudeau’s left. He even refused to condemn the terrorist who blew up the Air India plane.

“Trudeau’s India trip from the outset was playing to a diaspora gallery back home, one in which he has been studiously ambiguous on the Khalistani ties of some of his Liberal Party’s Sikh Canadian supporters,” said Vivek Dehejia, a professor at Carleton University in Ottawa. “But for those who are lukewarm on Trudeau, this will reconfirm their impression that the rock star image hides feet of clay, and that he has been undone by his own cleverness in trying to massage the diaspora vote back home yet appear statesman-like here in India. That facade has crumbled.”

Given the seriousness and the sensitivities at stake, it was infuriating to watch Trudeau sashaying out, doing Bhangra, at the same Canadian reception this week that was at the heart of the storm. You could feel the collective groan of Indians: please. Stop. Enough Already.

I confess, from afar, I used to be a Trudeau fan-girl. But after this trip, I’ve changed my mind. Trudeau has come across as flighty and facetious. His orchestrated dance moves and multiple costume changes in heavily embroidered kurtas and sherwanis make him look more like an actor on a movie set or a guest at a wedding than a politician who is here to talk business. Suddenly, all that charisma and cuteness seem constructed, manufactured and, above all, not serious.

“He seems more much more convinced of his own rock-star status than we ever were,” said one Indian government official, who preferred to remain anonymous.

Indians are also wondering, what is Trudeau doing here for so long? Doesn’t he have a country to run?

The length of Trudeau’s stay may help explain why the trip started on a discordant note. Government sources said India urged Canada to cut the trip shorter or to at least sequence it differently. India wanted to start the trip with political talks before Trudeau played tourist. The Canadians disagreed. Also, the Canadians expected Modi to accompany Trudeau to his home state of Gujarat, just as he had done with Shinzo Abe, Xi Jinping and Benjamain Netanyahu. India declined.

“There was a disconnect between Canada’s expectations, which had very little basis, and what we were ready to do,” said Vishnu Prakash, pointing out that 200 heads of state have visited India in four years. “Receiving leaders at the airport is an exception. And the Canadians should know — Modi has only gone to Gujarat with those leaders he has personally invited there.”

The frostiness with which Trudeau has been received is quite telling in a country where “Atithi Devo Bhavah” — “the guest is equivalent to God” — is usually the philosophy toward hospitality. Modi meets the Canadian prime minister on Friday, the sixth day of Trudeau’s India tour, and the only half-day of his sojourn that officially counts as “work”.

Most people agree that the Modi government has shown impressive toughness in setting the terms and in offering bipartisan support to the opposition leader, Captain Amarinder Singh, who governs the Sikh-dominated Punjab. Singh first accused Trudeau of backing Sikh separatists. Singh’s media adviser Raveen Thukral said that Trudeau gave a “categorical assurance that his country did not support any separatist movement in India” and drew parallels with Quebec, saying that he “had dealt with such threats all his life and was fully aware of the dangers of violence”.

Sounds good. So next time you come to India, Prime Minister Trudeau, do try and leave the terrorists — and the wedding kurtas — at home.

Barkha Dutt is an award-winning Indian TV journalist and anchor with more than two decades of reporting experience. She is the author of This Unquiet Land: Stories from India’s Fault Lines.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1391351/t...-a-total-disaster-and-he-has-himself-to-blame
 
Lol I don't think Indians know what "rockstar" means, they call any famous person that *cringe*. Indian English is the funniest dialect there is :))
 
Lol I don't think Indians know what "rockstar" means, they call any famous person that *cringe*. Indian English is the funniest dialect there is :))

Got off an Uber ride just now. My driver was a Pakistani who claimed he had Masters in Finance from Pakistan. We were chatting during the ride. At one point he said: "there is too much illiteration in Pakistan."

So much for Pakistani version of English!
 
Got off an Uber ride just now. My driver was a Pakistani who claimed he had Masters in Finance from Pakistan. We were chatting during the ride. At one point he said: "there is too much illiteration in Pakistan."

So much for Pakistani version of English!

So? That man was gifted enough to make a new word! Bow down to greatness, indian.
 
Got off an Uber ride just now. My driver was a Pakistani who claimed he had Masters in Finance from Pakistan. We were chatting during the ride. At one point he said: "there is too much illiteration in Pakistan."

So much for Pakistani version of English!

So? That man was gifted enough to make a new word! Bow down to greatness, indian.
 
Got off an Uber ride just now. My driver was a Pakistani who claimed he had Masters in Finance from Pakistan. We were chatting during the ride. At one point he said: "there is too much illiteration in Pakistan."

So much for Pakistani version of English!

So? That man was gifted enough to make a new word! Bow down to greatness, indian.
 
And now news comes that Modi went to the airport to receive King of Jordan. This will confuse the hell out of our Pakistani friends here. They wouldn't know whether they should appreciate Modi for extending the courtesy to their fellow Muslim or hate him for not doing the same to their favorite pretty boy Trudeau!

Ab kya karein?!
 
I won't say India has a whole lot to teach Canada about women's rights, but the rest of the West is different. The "rape rate per 100,000" for India is 1.8, about the same as Canada (1.7), but other countries like Sweden (63.5), USA (27.3), UK (17) etc. are off the charts. Some would include SA (132) in the West.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#By_country

If you are concerned about underreporting, then consider Obama's statement that 25% of US female undergrads are sexually assaulted during their undergrad years. That would translate to 6,250 per 100,000 for the US rather than 27.3. Even if rapes in India are underreported by a factor of 10 (unlikely), it still only gets to 18.

It should not be surprising that the rate is so low for India. Traditionally in Hinduism women have occupied a high place, with many female goddesses etc. Isolated events of course occur in a country of 1,300 million but the average is very good for women. From my personal experience the demographic that gets the most respect and consideration in India are older women who are usually referred to as "Mataji".

You have to be careful with rape statistics.

Sweden has a broader definition of rape than the US and many European countries. Sweden also records every alleged incident of rape as a separate even when the perpetrator and victim are the same, i.e. if a woman claims a man raped her 20 times, its recorded as 20 cases.

Their very thorough and open method of investigating and reporting rape doesn't necessarily mean it has a bigger rape problem than anywhere else.
 
You have to be careful with rape statistics.

Sweden has a broader definition of rape than the US and many European countries. Sweden also records every alleged incident of rape as a separate even when the perpetrator and victim are the same, i.e. if a woman claims a man raped her 20 times, its recorded as 20 cases.

Their very thorough and open method of investigating and reporting rape doesn't necessarily mean it has a bigger rape problem than anywhere else.

Yes, Sweden's definition of rape is broader than others. The recent infamous case would be that of Assange, where the woman woke up in the morning, made coffee for him, and decided weeks later she had been raped. Such absurdities are a result of rampant liberalism and feminism, where the definition of rape is constantly broadened.

However, that doesn't mean we ignore data either. The absurdity in India's case is the Nirbhaya case. It was a horrible case of gang rape and murder, but somehow the actions of those six men were used to defame the entire nation. Unfortunately there will be some criminals in a country of 1.3 billion, but when judging an entire nation we had to look at overall stats. Looking at individual cases is also nonsensical.

While Sweden may produce greater numbers due to differences in reporting standards (though 63 is still far far greater than 1.8), this is less of an excuse in the US where reporting standards are still conventional.
 
Justin is a man-child and not really ready for lead any country.
 
So the Canadians were paying attention after all! So much for the claims that Canadians did not care about JT's trip!

I blame the dodgy attire!
 
So the Canadians were paying attention after all! So much for the claims that Canadians did not care about JT's trip!

I blame the dodgy attire!


4K odd Canadians taking survey doesnt mean 34M plus Canadians were glued to TV for Jt’s India visit. I live here and 90% of locals didn’t even knew Trudeau was in India, as most of them were busy in Winter Olympics. Let me ask you this, If Pakistani Pm visits another country during ICC WC, what would be following more?

Just yesterday my family member in Regina, Sask send me a video of Trudeau addressing public in Library in Regina. She didn’t knew about his visit until she saw him in the library. JT doesnt stay in limelight like certain someone in the south :trump2
 
Only a man without class and an ex tea maker would make the blunder of not extending India’s most famous hospitality and welcome to one of the oat popular leaders in the world.

Modi is a childish brat who puts his own ego above what is or not in India’s favour.

Indian continues to get humiliated at the global stage under this fascist hindutva regime run by illiterate minority haters like Modi and Shah.
 
Well, his days were numbered and finally its over. I hope this joke of a man is done with politics.

I wonder what his Khalistani comrades are going through now. They used Trudeau to further their agenda. will be interesting to see if the new PM is as far left as Trudeau or if he is center left.
 
Well, his days were numbered and finally its over. I hope this joke of a man is done with politics.

I wonder what his Khalistani comrades are going through now. They used Trudeau to further their agenda. will be interesting to see if the new PM is as far left as Trudeau or if he is center left.
In any case, it’s just a matter of days for the Liberals in Canada. The Conservatives are thumping them by double digit margins and it’s only a matter of time that the Libs and their Khalistani comrades are shown the door.
 
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