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I am from Karachi too I work at a hospital in Karachi and as the canteen remains open plenty of people eat there most of them are labourers and attendants of pts I think and nobody even bats an eye lid let alone say anything to them

Even one of my sibling's colleague does not keep fast and openly tells to everybody and nobody bats and eye lid there either

So no it's not like that everybody in Karachi will start beating the pulp out of people if they don't fast one or two people doing it does not make it like everybody will do it

i never claimed theres a group of extremist snooping around to see who is eating that they can be beaten up

my point is that it is undeniable that adult Muslims who do not fast are made to feel guilty and looked at negatively which stimes mean that people who shouldnt be fasting end up not fasting

and this is more so in the working class people.

and theres 1 or 2 incident every ramzan of someone getting beaten due to this though i admit thats minuscule and nothing yo can generalize by but my initial point is societal pressure.

in well off schools, colleges, work places etc its not an issue. though ppl still dont eat in front of others out of respect.
 
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Considering 1,700 died in India last month I think blaming Ramadan is a deflection really...as tough as it must be to fast in these conditions death from heatwaves is normally down to government in competence...the lack of electricity to power fans and A.C's is a much bigger problem...

Blaming religion here is simply allowing the government to get away with what is their fault...

That said there have been some nasty things going on...the increase in prices of A.C's as mentioned just shows the lack of humanity on display...also a lack of commmon sense in some cases...a friend of mine had a relative pass away and people made a fuss over his burial saying it would break their fast...suggestions that they might vomit from the smell...common sense unfortunately rarely prevails...
 
Where are those I-diots who were saying Metro bus is such a great project. 50 billion rupees were spent on Metro project which could have been spent on Power and water. The power production has decreased in past 1 year. And what's more terrifying is that no new power plant has been built.
 
As of yesterday the number of deaths hit in excess of 1000...still growing...

Seems the Pakistani government is more dangerous to Pakistanis than the TTP...

532 deaths of civilians caused by the TTP this year...

Along with the 1000+ dying here...1413 'terrorists' have been killed by the Pakistani military this year...considering all of Pakistan's military expeditions in Waziristan lead to the dubious claim of 0 civilian casualties either the Pakistani army is amazing at their job or they are actually bigger murderers than the TTP...
 
As of yesterday the number of deaths hit in excess of 1000...still growing...

Seems the Pakistani government is more dangerous to Pakistanis than the TTP...

532 deaths of civilians caused by the TTP this year...

Along with the 1000+ dying here...1413 'terrorists' have been killed by the Pakistani military this year...considering all of Pakistan's military expeditions in Waziristan lead to the dubious claim of 0 civilian casualties either the Pakistani army is amazing at their job or they are actually bigger murderers than the TTP...

Federal Government announced today that it will set up a committee to 'discuss' the heat wave related deaths :))
 
As of yesterday the number of deaths hit in excess of 1000...still growing...

Seems the Pakistani government is more dangerous to Pakistanis than the TTP...

532 deaths of civilians caused by the TTP this year...

Along with the 1000+ dying here...1413 'terrorists' have been killed by the Pakistani military this year...considering all of Pakistan's military expeditions in Waziristan lead to the dubious claim of 0 civilian casualties either the Pakistani army is amazing at their job or they are actually bigger murderers than the TTP...

Govt has done more than enough by blaming it on India. According to them its the heat coming from power plants from Rajasthan which is killing people in karachi.

it must be really really hot power plants in rajasthan with people made from asbestos working there
 
As of yesterday the number of deaths hit in excess of 1000...still growing...

Seems the Pakistani government is more dangerous to Pakistanis than the TTP...

532 deaths of civilians caused by the TTP this year...

Along with the 1000+ dying here...1413 'terrorists' have been killed by the Pakistani military this year...considering all of Pakistan's military expeditions in Waziristan lead to the dubious claim of 0 civilian casualties either the Pakistani army is amazing at their job or they are actually bigger murderers than the TTP...
TTP have killed 70,000+ Pakistanis, so can't top that.

There indeed may have been some fatalities of innocent civilians(don't know for sure) but the reason why the casualities of civilians is very little if not non-existent is because of the mass exodus of people from Waziristan and other areas, over a million people are living as IDPs in other areas of Pakistan, and the tribal areas never had a high population to begin with, so Waziristan is pretty much a ghost town left with mostly militants.

Another thing is that, the Pak army has allied with local tribal warlords to fight the TTP, and many of the fighters of the TTP are also foreigners from central asia and the caucasus, so it's pretty certain that no foreigners would be there for a vacation
 
Govt has done more than enough by blaming it on India. According to them its the heat coming from power plants from Rajasthan which is killing people in karachi.

it must be really really hot power plants in rajasthan with people made from asbestos working there

You don't seem to understand how pollution works; air pollution can cross borders due wind and what not, and that can and has contributed to the heat, it isn't the cause of the heat wave but it's of the reasons for such intense heat; this isn't a "conspiracy theory" so i don't get why indians are taking this personal
 
Govt has done more than enough by blaming it on India. According to them its the heat coming from power plants from Rajasthan which is killing people in karachi.

it must be really really hot power plants in rajasthan with people made from asbestos working there

Haan har cheez apnay baray mein bunalo..
 
TTP have killed 70,000+ Pakistanis, so can't top that.

There indeed may have been some fatalities of innocent civilians(don't know for sure) but the reason why the casualities of civilians is very little if not non-existent is because of the mass exodus of people from Waziristan and other areas, over a million people are living as IDPs in other areas of Pakistan, and the tribal areas never had a high population to begin with, so Waziristan is pretty much a ghost town left with mostly militants.

Another thing is that, the Pak army has allied with local tribal warlords to fight the TTP, and many of the fighters of the TTP are also foreigners from central asia and the caucasus, so it's pretty certain that no foreigners would be there for a vacation

All I notice is a general trend...TTP kills civilians and military...Pakistan army retaliates...TTP say civilians die...Pakistan army claims EVERYONE is a terrorist and no civilians die...

Im aware that many are refugees and have fled but the suggestion that ONLY terrorists reside in these areas is problematic and essentially gives the army the green light to target anyone and everything...Israel uses these arguments for Hamas areas also...those who reside must of course be supporters or terrorists themselves...

Anyhow any source for the 70k stat?...

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/database/casualties.htm

According to this:

20469 civilians have died...
6191 military personnel...
31457 terrorists have died...

I'm sorry but those figures are dubious not in terms of numbers but in terms of definition...more terrorists have died than civilians?...
 
You don't seem to understand how pollution works; air pollution can cross borders due wind and what not, and that can and has contributed to the heat, it isn't the cause of the heat wave but it's of the reasons for such intense heat; this isn't a "conspiracy theory" so i don't get why indians are taking this personal

May be because its your government making such a stupid allegation. He is not talking about pollution, he is talking about heat.

You need to know the distance between karachi and power plants in rajasthan before making such claims. And you need to checkout how many people died in rajasthan due to same power plants. people closer to the plants should be worst affected right?
 
Jibran Nasir Confronts CM Sindh Qaim Ali Shah in a Government Hospital. We need more people like him to stand in front of these political clowns and show them their real face.

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Toll tops 1,150 in Pakistan's deadliest heat wave on record
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People attempt to cool off near a damaged water pipe in Karachi, Pakistan, on June 25, 2015. More than 1,000 people have died in Pakistan's worst heat wave on record.

The death toll in Pakistan's deadliest heat wave on record now topped 1,100, causing morgues to overflow, Reuters reported Friday.

Power outages added to the misery, leaving many without fans, water or light at the beginning of Ramadan, when many Muslims do not eat or drink during daylight hours, according to Reuters.

"By Friday, at least 1,150 people have died in the government-run hospitals," said Anwar Kazmi of the Edhi Foundation, a private charity that runs a network of ambulances and morgues.

The New York Times reported the heat wave has sent more than 14,000 people into government and private hospitals in Karachi, the nation's largest city.

The hot weather comes just weeks after torrid temperatures caused nearly 2,200 deaths in neighboring India, raising fears that South Asia could be seeing some of the devastating effects of human-caused climate change, the Associated Press reported.

Pakistan's previous deadliest heat wave was in 1991, when 523 people died, EM-DAT, the International Disaster Database, reported.

This heat wave looks to be easing slightly, as high temperatures are forecast in the 90s after several days of temperatures over 100 degrees, according to Weather Underground.

The worst of the heat peaked Saturday, when the high temperature hit 112.6 degrees in Karachi; the heat index topping out at a dangerously high 121 degrees.

"Since the monsoon has been slower to get into northwestern India, Karachi has been tremendously dry with intense heat," stated AccuWeather meteorologist Anthony Sagliani.

Cooling monsoon rains are likely to arrive in Pakistan by mid-July, which should mean the region won't see any more temperatures this summer as high as were recorded last weekend, meteorologist Jeff Masters of the Weather Underground said.

The Pakistan heat wave will join this year's heat wave in India as one of the 10 deadliest in world history.

"The deadly heat wave that has killed several hundred people in Karachi, Pakistan, is clearly a harbinger of things to come with the changing climate," Saleemul Huq, director of the International Center for Climate Change and Development in Bangladesh and a prominent climate scientist, told the Associated Press earlier this week.

"Even if this particular event cannot be unequivocally attributed to human-induced climate change, we can certainly expect such heat waves with greater frequency in future," he said.

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Abdul Sattar Edhi, head of the charity Edhi Welfare Trust, sits on a wheelchair as he offers funeral prayers along with volunteers for the unclaimed heatwave victims in Karachi on June 26, 2015. (Photo: RIZWAN TABASSUM, AFP/Getty Images)


http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2015/06/26/pakistan-heat-wave/29325177/
 
One of my friends dad died. :(

RIP

Please say a prayer for him
 
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Pakistanis Come Together to Help Heat Wave Victims
Amid a scorching heat wave, Pakistanis come together to help each other.
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Basic infrastructure issues such as poor governance, corruption, and unclear planning haven’t deterred Pakistani citizens from forming community-based initiatives to help the victims of the recent heat wave. Due to escalating temperatures, the current heat wave in Pakistan has taken over 1000 lives while many others continue to suffer in the grueling conditions. According to the United Nations, Pakistan is one of the most water stressed countries in the world and electricity shortages have added to the growing problems in the country, especially for the impoverished community.

Incidentally, June is also the month (this year) when many Muslims are observing Ramadan and fasting from sunrise to sunset. Due to deeper a sense of spirituality, many people continue to fast despite the difficulties. Clerics and scholars have repeatedly told Muslim citizens in Pakistan that those who cannot bear fasting in difficult conditions can delay it.

Besides the relief camps set up by the government and the military, citizens are forming groups and small organizations to gather basic supplies for the needy. Online forums make it easier for people to come together and collect alms, gather supplies, and deliver them to various locations. Comprehensive Disaster Response Services (CDRS), led by Todd Shea, is one organization that is collaborating with people at home and abroad to collect funds for the victims. The organization was created after the founder’s deployment to Pakistan in October 2005 to assist with earthquake relief efforts.

Mustahiq is another such group in which founders and members collect food, clothing, and arrange for shelter when needed. Faith, another organization, is also part of the same community-based approach that seeks to gather funds or basic necessities for people in need of dire help. According to their Facebook page, the organization has delivered bottles of water, dates, and other food items to various parts of Karachi. They continue to collect donations for the treatment of heat wave victims. People tend to donate more during the holy month as giving alms is an integral part of the spirit of Ramadan.

It is not unusual for the weather to get extremely hot in Pakistan, especially during the months of June and July, but prolonged power cuts have made the situation unmanageable and unbearable. On Saturday, temperatures reached 44.8 degrees Celsius (112.64 degrees Fahrenheit) — the highest-recorded temperature in the country in the last 15 years. Edhi Foundation, one of the most famous charity organizations in Pakistan, has received an influx of bodies that they are struggling to keep cool until they can be buried. The cemeteries and morgues are also trying to manage the bodies of those who have passed away.

Pakistan’s heat wave is brutal, but Pakistanis are doing all they can to manage the damage.

http://thediplomat.com/2015/06/pakistanis-come-together-to-help-heat-wave-victims/
 
Some pictures are heart breaking.

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A vendor sells blocks of ice along a road during a heat wave in Karachi on Wednesday. AKHTAR SOOMRO/REUTERS
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A volunteer pours drinking water for people at a stall set up outside Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Center in Karachi on Tuesday. AKHTAR SOOMRO/REUTERS
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Pakistanis cool off in a canal during a heat wave in Lahore on Monday. SAJJAD/XINHUA/ZUMA PRESS
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A woman wets her burqa to cool her father's head outside the Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Center in Karachi on Wednesday.
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A man covers his head with a wet towel to avoid heatstroke in Karachi on Wednesday.
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A Pakistani resident helps a heatstroke victim at a market area during a heat wave in Karachi on Wednesday. RIZWAN TABASSUM/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
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A man with his daughter who suffers from dehydration due to extreme weather waits for medical help outside a ward at a child hospital in Karachi on Wednesday. SHAKIL ADIL/ASSOCIATED PRESS
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A Pakistani patient suffering from heatstroke receives treatment at a local hospital in Karachi on Wednesday. SHAKIL ADIL/ASSOCIATED PRESS
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People shift bodies of heat-wave victims to a mortuary in Karachi on Wednesday. SHAHZAIB AKBER/EUROPEAN PRESSPHOTO AGENCY
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A man tried to cool off in a roadside puddle in Karachi, Pakistan, on Thursday, as the death toll from a devastating heat wave continued to climb. PHOTO: EUROPEAN PRESSPHOTO AGENCY


http://www.wsj.com/articles/pakistan-heat-wave-eases-but-death-toll-rises-1435254733



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10,000 AC units are sold in Karachi this week which means we might see a demand of extra 150-200 MW to run these units and currently K-Electric is not even able to give 650 MW to Karachi which is the normal demand.
 
10,000 AC units are sold in Karachi this week which means we might see a demand of extra 150-200 MW to run these units and currently K-Electric is not even able to give 650 MW to Karachi which is the normal demand.

I read that temperature is supposed to go down in 1-2 days or already going down. So that may help.
 
I read that temperature is supposed to go down in 1-2 days or already going down. So that may help.

its went down for a couple of days but the second heatwave is expected from tomm or day after
 
10,000 AC units are sold in Karachi this week which means we might see a demand of extra 150-200 MW to run these units and currently K-Electric is not even able to give 650 MW to Karachi which is the normal demand.

demand is probably much more

650MW was the figure which WAPDA used to add to Karachi's gridline from the national gridline till few months ago but the Nooras and Kh Asif cut it.

Now Sindh only survives on electricity generated in Sindh
 
It went down about 4-5 days ago

That should improve the situation by great deal.

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Off Topic: I saw your response about mob and title. I didn't give any title. I just copied from headline as it was written in Telegraph. Since Mods were quick in responding to my request, I couldn't reply to you.
 
demand is probably much more

650MW was the figure which WAPDA used to add to Karachi's gridline from the national gridline till few months ago but the Nooras and Kh Asif cut it.

Now Sindh only survives on electricity generated in Sindh

I hope they will find a solution for it even if it is temporary but people of Karachi really need it in this summer although i don't have high hopes from this govt
 
Ramzan is going to be tough.

Feel bad for the poor people and daily laborers who will be fasting while doing very strenuous work under the sun in 40 degree heat. And the mullahs who spend all day in air conditioned rooms will blackmail them with hell and azaab if they miss rozas.

Hopefully we don't have a last year type situation where thousands of people die :-(
 
Allah is kind.


1. Those labourers who do work under the Sun in this heat will not go to Hell if they don't fast.


2. If they feel they are so strong that they can fast than they can fast. But they cannot be forced to fast.


3. A couple of years back we had a man working at our place. He told me that despite his limited earnings he saves some money every month and than when the month of Ramazan comes than he does Annual leave of 35-40 days. He stays at home and fasts. After Eid he starts his struggle for food once again.


So if Possible the labourers can opt for option 3 or option 1. But unfortunately the option 1 is only feasible in Pakistan if the person at whose place you are working or the boss is educated enough to help you eat & drink within the premises. Because you cannot do it openly if you are poor and fundamentalists get their hand on you.


Very Sad situation though.


Until the revival of Real Islam.
 
Ramzan is going to be tough.

Feel bad for the poor people and daily laborers who will be fasting while doing very strenuous work under the sun in 40 degree heat. And the mullahs who spend all day in air conditioned rooms will blackmail them with hell and azaab if they miss rozas.

Hopefully we don't have a last year type situation where thousands of people die :-(

Allah is kind.


1. Those labourers who do work under the Sun in this heat will not go to Hell if they don't fast.


2. If they feel they are so strong that they can fast than they can fast. But they cannot be forced to fast.


3. A couple of years back we had a man working at our place. He told me that despite his limited earnings he saves some money every month and than when the month of Ramazan comes than he does Annual leave of 35-40 days. He stays at home and fasts. After Eid he starts his struggle for food once again.


So if Possible the labourers can opt for option 3 or option 1. But unfortunately the option 1 is only feasible in Pakistan if the person at whose place you are working or the boss is educated enough to help you eat & drink within the premises. Because you cannot do it openly if you are poor and fundamentalists get their hand on you.


Very Sad situation though.


Until the revival of Real Islam.

This is extremely unfortunate,fear of GOD taking a severe toll.A Man should think of his family surely the ones into manual labor won't have a working partner incase of them being injured or killed who would take care of the family?

Hope sanity prevails.
 
Its raining heavily in Chennai after a month of extreme heat(feet burning),Global W is really a thing and world should take notice.
 
Don't know whether living in US for 6 or so years has made me soft or sth but man it's hot here. I'm lucky that more than half the time I'm usually in an air conditioned room whether it's work or home but still. Don't remember it ever being this hot
 
A few years ago my uncle was told by a labourer working on his house that he was fasting and working in the heat. My uncle gave the money he would have earnt and told him to take the month off.
 
Family in Karachi saying it's insanely hot again this year, probably one of the hottest summers ever. In the west it's getting colder for some reason lol.

If it rains then the gutters will overflow and it will just create a mess in the city and become breeding ground for mosquitos and malaria, so I guess either way the conditions are undesirable.

How the heck is Inzi going to create seaming pitches in conditions like this? :ibutt
 
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Family in Karachi saying it's insanely hot again this year, probably one of the hottest summers ever. In the west it's getting colder for some reason lol.

If it rains then the gutters will overflow and it will just create a mess in the city and become breeding ground for mosquitos and malaria, so I guess either way the conditions are undesirable.

How the heck is Inzi going to create seaming pitches in conditions like this? :ibutt

Try planting trees.
 
It is insanely hot in Karachi these days and Ive read predicitions that the heat wave spell will resemble that of 2015

Allah khair karay
 
Just narrowly avoided being sent to an ongoing project in Karachi. It's bad enough being in Lahore with its crappy weather, imagine living in a city where the weather literally suffocates you the instant you step foot outside.
 
Man global warming is really hitting Karachi hard... I don't remember it being this hot in April ever before. Heck this is mid-June, peak summer level these days. A small part might be due to the rampant cutting of trees in the city. Doesn't matter Bhutto is still alive.
 
Is there a particular reason we are now bumping old threads instead of creating new ones? It really is a dumb practice.

Annoying to open up a thread and realize the OP and article was from almost three years ago.
 
It is insanely hot in Karachi these days and Ive read predicitions that the heat wave spell will resemble that of 2015

Allah khair karay

Indian meterological department has predicted that this year's average temperature despite being above normal in most parts of India, would be slightly lower than 2017.
 
Just narrowly avoided being sent to an ongoing project in Karachi. It's bad enough being in Lahore with its crappy weather, imagine living in a city where the weather literally suffocates you the instant you step foot outside.

In Rajasthan temperature in June has been touching 55 degree mark regularly in last 4-5 years. Imagine being a daily wage earner in these parts of the world.
 
Just narrowly avoided being sent to an ongoing project in Karachi. It's bad enough being in Lahore with its crappy weather, imagine living in a city where the weather literally suffocates you the instant you step foot outside.


Atleast the evening sea breeze is nice
 
KARACHI: Pakistan’s largest city Karachi sizzled on Saturday as the mercury hit 44°C.

The Met Office said that apart from the rising temperature, the humidity in Karachi was 6%.

The country’s weatherman urged people not to travel between 11am till 4pm.

The Met Office said the last time the temperature in Karachi had crossed 44°C was on April 14, 1947.

The Met Office has also forecast that the temperature is likely to drop from Sunday onwards. It said that, on Sunday, the heatwave may break as the mercury may hover between 36°C till 38°C.

It added that from Monday onwards, the temperature may fall between 34°C till 36°C.

PMD issues countrywide heatwave alert

On Tuesday, the Pakistan Meteorological Department (PMD) issued a warning regarding the first heatwave of the season which was expected to hit many parts of the country during the current week.

According to the PMD spokesperson, mainly hot and dry weather was expected during the week due to which heatwave conditions were likely in most plain areas of the country.

Following the PMD's heatwave alert, the Sindh government directed relevant authorities to take necessary precautions to avert loss of life.
 
Met dept predicts four days of higher temperature for Karachi

The Pakistan Meteorological Department's (PMD) has once again forecast higher than average temperatures for Karachi for the next four days, as the current moderate heatwave would continue.

Forecasting for the next four days, the PMD said daytime hours are likely to remain arid and dry in the provincial capital with hot and dry winds blowing in from northeastern and northwestern Balochistan.

However, evening and night hours will remain pleasant as the sea breeze would resume.

The PMD estimated humidity to remain between 50 and 70 per cent during daytime and 30 to 40 per cent in the evening.

Just a few days ago, Karachi witnessed the second hottest day in April since 1947, as the temperature in the city soared to 44 degrees Celsius on April 3, amid hot winds from Balochistan blowing across the metropolis throughout the day, according to the PMD.

With the sea breeze suspended for the most part of the day, the mercury kept rising since the morning. The maximum temperature of 44°C was recorded in the afternoon, following which the temperature began to drop as the evening approached and sea breeze resumed and had a cooling effect on the day.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2293781/met-dept-predicts-four-days-of-higher-temperature-for-karachi
 
KARACHI: The Pakistan Meteorological Department (PMD) has predicted extremely hot weather for the port city today, saying that the temperature may rise to 44°C, Geo News reported Monday.

The current temperature was recorded at 34.5°C with humidity at 21%.

Strong winds are likely in the city today, the weather department notified, adding that northeast winds are blowing at a speed of 9 km per hour.
 
Very hot weather conditions are likely to persist in the city and rest of Sindh in the upcoming days as the high pressure area built over Afghanistan and Balochistan last month has shown no sign of losing its intensity, a Met department official stated on Wednesday.

“We were hoping that the system would subside in the first week of April, but it didn’t. In fact, there are chances of another heatwave in Karachi in the mid of April,” said chief meteorologist Dr Sardar Sarfaraz.

He added that except for one or two days, temperature had remained consistently hot and dry in Karachi.

The Met department has forecast very hot weather conditions in Karachi on Thursday (today) with maximum temperature ranging between 39 degree Celsius and 41°C.

According to Met officials, chances of rain are unlikely in the country, which is bad news particularly for farmers having standing wheat crops.

Temperature in Karachi dropped from 40.7°C with 44 per cent relative humidity on Tuesday to 39°C with 25pc relative humidity on Wednesday.

“Very hot and dry weather to persist over central and upper Sindh with maximum temperature ranging between 42°C and 44°C,” it said in an advisory.

Published in Dawn, April 7th, 2022
 
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