"Karachi players are not mentally strong": Moin Khan

[MenInG]

Moin Khan speaking in an interview:

"I can't believe that there is any conspiracy against Karachi players"

"Karachi players are not mentally strong - It's high time to identify the weaknesses. If you are dropped, it doesn't mean you leave cricket. They need to rate themselves on top and don't lose hope. But, I think our city players lack passion and commitments"

"I was dropped a lot of time from the team, but every time I came up with better performance"

"I believe Karachi players should stand for themselves. They should try to make themselves better than others. Don't lose hope and throw negativity out of your mind"

 

[Faiz1978]

Shan Masood score 150+ in England in conditions which was favoring swing and seam , any one not mentally strong can not score 150+ against excellent bowling attack in such conditions.

 

[ElRaja]

would be more accurate to say a specifc generation of karachi players may have been mentally weaker, the region shoots itself in the foot tho selecting from a very limited pool of players, despite lots of talented players in junior ranks.

sohail khan, khurrum manzoor, asad shafiq, tabish khan are nearly 40 and were still regulars for sindhs first team. makes zero sense.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Shan Masood score 150+ in England in conditions which was favoring swing and seam , any one not mentally strong can not score 150+ against excellent bowling attack in such conditions.

And then failed the rest of the series once the bowlers adjusted their line to him

 

[topspin]

Karachi street cricket isn't going to help you with the pressure of delivering in international cricket. Good example is Asad Shafiq who crumbled in the 2011 WC SF.

I feel some of them rely on the voices from Karachi media and the mafia hit squad in the city to protect their places in the team. It's a disgrace with how they keep calling for Sarfraz Ahmed to be picked. Even Shahid Afridi is doing it to please his locals.

PCB, Karachi Street Cricket Association, Karachi media and Karachi mafia need a meeting to sort out their grievances. Asad Shafiq and Sarfraz Ahmed have failed and they need to get over it.

 

[topspin]

Asad Shafiq should never have played for more than 1-2 years for Pakistan as he's been a failed investment. In fact, he's the biggest mental midget I've ever seen from a professional cricketer. With his talent he should have averaged in the high 40s (at the very least).

Sarfraz Ahmed was a failed captain after 2017 CT. Yet PCB, stuck with him for another 2 years.

The victim mentality is making them mentally weaker so whilst Moin Khan hasn't expressed his view eloquently, I can see where he's coming from. He's not wrong.

 

[Faiz1978]

And then failed the rest of the series once the bowlers adjusted their line to him

that happens to any batsman specially in England , biggest example is Virat Kohli, but scoring 150+ is not a joke . Shan Masood has scored in South Africa as well.

 

[Faiz1978]

Karachi street cricket isn't going to help you with the pressure of delivering in international cricket. Good example is Asad Shafiq who crumbled in the 2011 WC SF.

I feel some of them rely on the voices from Karachi media and the mafia hit squad in the city to protect their places in the team. It's a disgrace with how they keep calling for Sarfraz Ahmed to be picked. Even Shahid Afridi is doing it to please his locals.

PCB, Karachi Street Cricket Association, Karachi media and Karachi mafia need a meeting to sort out their grievances. Asad Shafiq and Sarfraz Ahmed have failed and they need to get over it.

As other scored 100's in 2011 world cup SF. , what about Misbah inning and others too.

 

[daytrader]

Can't seem to agree with this. Mentally there's no one stronger than Fawad Alam who despite all against him, continued to toil away in domestics and eventually get selected

 

[m.awais]

People always bring Fawad Alam‘s case as an example but they seem to forget that it was Asad Shafique (also a Karachite) who was occupying only available slot in the middle order. So if unjustice was done to Fawad, it only favoured another Karachite. So for me this debate of injustice to Fawad because of being from Karachi doesn’t make sense.

 

[Faiz1978]

People always bring Fawad Alam‘s case as an example but they seem to forget that it was Asad Shafique (also a Karachite) who was occupying only available slot in the middle order. So if unjustice was done to Fawad, it only favoured another Karachite. So for me this debate of injustice to Fawad because of being from Karachi doesn’t make sense.

What about great Azhar Ali , he became ODI captain too, on what basis of qualification ?

 

[Kaddy]

that happens to any batsman specially in England , biggest example is Virat Kohli, but scoring 150+ is not a joke . Shan Masood has scored in South Africa as well.

It wasn't England only. He was a huge failure in New Zealand after that.

Post that 150+ his next 8 innings were
0
1
4
18
10
0
0
0

That is 33 runs in 8 innings with the mighty average of 4.12. His overall average is 29. Kohli despite of his failures is averaging 33 in England.

Currently he is in very good form and deserves a comeback but if you say he was dropped unfairly, you are completely wrong.

 

[m.awais]

The discussion is about place in the team, not about who became captain and who didn’t .

 

[m.awais]

What about great Azhar Ali , he became ODI captain too, on what basis of qualification ?

The discussion is about place in the team, not about who became captain and who didn’t.

 

[Faiz1978]

The discussion is about place in the team, not about who became captain and who didn’t.

He did not deserve place in ODI team, he was never ODI player.

 

[Faiz1978]

It wasn't England only. He was a huge failure in New Zealand after that.

Post that 150+ his next 8 innings were
0
1
4
18
10
0
0
0

That is 33 runs in 8 innings with the mighty average of 4.12. His overall average is 29. Kohli despite of his failures is averaging 33 in England.

Currently he is in very good form and deserves a comeback but if you say he was dropped unfairly, you are completely wrong.

Before that He did well in Australia , SA as well, those test matches you mentioned he was out of form. Just check in SA series his scores and check other batsmen too.

One more thing please check Virak Kohli record in England 2014 series considering how big player he is , 5 test match he was completely flop so by your logic his career should have been over.

 

[m.awais]

Yes and so was fawad alam never a T20 player and Asad Shafique never an Odi player but asad played over 60 ODI despite being a continuous failure in ODI. Has anyone ever said anything about asad shafique‘s odi record??? Why was he given so many chances in ODI‘s???

 

[m.awais]

He did not deserve place in ODI team, he was never ODI player.

Yes and so was fawad alam never a T20 player and Asad Shafique never an Odi player but asad played over 60 ODI despite being a continuous failure in ODI. Has anyone ever said anything about asad shafique‘s odi record??? Why was he given so many chances in ODI‘s???

 

[Faiz1978]

Yes and so was fawad alam never a T20 player and Asad Shafique never an Odi player but asad played over 60 ODI despite being a continuous failure in ODI. Has anyone ever said anything about asad shafique‘s odi record??? Why was he given so many chances in ODI‘s???

Poor team selection so where is this mental strength comes with region but worst part is Azhar Ali became captain of team whereas he was not ODI player , on what basis ??

 

[m.awais]

Poor team selection so where is this mental strength comes with region but worst part is Azhar Ali became captain of team whereas he was not ODI player , on what basis ??

So in your opinion „Selection of asad shafique was poor team selection „ don‘t you think that it was a favour given to a karachi player????

If that was only just a poor team selection than azhar ali was only just a poor captain selection.

 

[Faiz1978]

So in your opinion „Selection of asad shafique was poor team selection „ don‘t you think that it was a favour given to a karachi player????

If that was only just a poor team selection than azhar ali was only just a poor captain selection.

Asad Shafiq has very good batting technique better than any other batsmen during that period somehow he did not perform in ODI (which had happened with many batman in past) so you cannot say any one has done favor for him by selecting in team.

 

[Faiz1978]

Asad Shafiq has very good batting technique better than any other batsmen during that period somehow he did not perform in ODI (which had happened with many batman in past) so you cannot say any one has done favor for him by selecting in team.

How hassan Ali is playing in team last 5 months , on what quota he is in team ?same goes for Salman Agha , Uncle Iftekhar many others please check data.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Miandad was from?

 

[Cric1234]

Asad Shafiq has very good batting technique better than any other batsmen during that period somehow he did not perform in ODI (which had happened with many batman in past) so you cannot say any one has done favor for him by selecting in team.

He didn’t have a good technique he would’ve done well in international cricket if he did never looked like dominating at any time.

He was more of a domestic player that should never have played international cricket for long you need attacking aggressive batsmen not players who play at a low strike rate and struggle to score consistently.

 

[shaz619]

Miandad was from?

He was an anomaly. Moin is right, Karachi players don’t have a brain sadly

 

[Faiz1978]

He didn’t have a good technique he would’ve done well in international cricket if he did never looked like dominating at any time.

He was more of a domestic player that should never have played international cricket for long you need attacking aggressive batsmen not players who play at a low strike rate and struggle to score consistently.

I think I should stop here, but check what M. Yousuf , Nasir Hussain , Mike Atherton said about his technique. anyway good day.

 

[Faiz1978]

He didn’t have a good technique he would’ve done well in international cricket if he did never looked like dominating at any time.

He was more of a domestic player that should never have played international cricket for long you need attacking aggressive batsmen not players who play at a low strike rate and struggle to score consistently.

Low strike players are many Dravid , Pujara , Alistair Cook there are many , seems you dont watch much cricket.Asad S has scored centuries all over the place, consistency is a issue thats the reason he is out of team fair enough. but why Azhar Ali played so long as per your logic he is also low strike rate and not consistent , on which quota he is in team ?
How hassan Ali is playing in team last 5 months , on what quota he is in team ?same goes for Salman Agha , Uncle Iftekhar etc.

 

[sweep_shot]

A bit of a racist statement from Moin. Should've worded it better.

 

[MenInG]

A bit of a racist statement from Moin. Should've worded it better.

I consider Moin a Karachiwalla himself so not taking his words badly.

Lets not concentrate on words but the message

 

[topspin]

As other scored 100's in 2011 world cup SF. , what about Misbah inning and others too.

I've mentioned my view of his innings on numerous occasions but happy to mention it again:

His innings was the worst of the lot because instead of showing intent he start playing negatively at the most critical stage of the innings. At the back end of the chase, the run rate was had spiked up.

He only started playing shots when the game was settled. It was obvious that the only thing Misbah cared about on the day was retaining his place in the side.

 

[Cric1234]

Low strike players are many Dravid , Pujara , Alistair Cook there are many , seems you dont watch much cricket.Asad S has scored centuries all over the place, consistency is a issue thats the reason he is out of team fair enough. but why Azhar Ali played so long as per your logic he is also low strike rate and not consistent , on which quota he is in team ?
How hassan Ali is playing in team last 5 months , on what quota he is in team ?same goes for Salman Agha , Uncle Iftekhar etc.

Well if they average 50 then it’s good even with a lower strike Asad Shafiq averaged 38 after 77 tests plenty of matches in Asia hardly a decent innings in there not good enough if he was he would’ve done better.

Slow players are plenty in Pakistan that’s why they are a mediocre team Azhar Asad Imam Malik Haris Sohail Shan Masood the list goes on slow batsmen making the test team into a mediocre one.

Nobody averages close to 50 aswell they don’t become comparable to Dravid its a big difference between them.

 

[Cric1234]

You don’t need 6 slow batsmen in tests 3 batsmen should be attacking batsmen who can help win matches more consistently too many slow batsmen batting at an average under 40 means the team will be mediocre as we have seen.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Moin needs to wake-up and smell the coffee. Nobody cares about Karachi or Lahore anymore.

KP is the new breeding ground for Pakistani talent. And generally talent is coming into the Pakistan team from everywhere but Karachi and Lahore.

How many Lahori players are there in the side besides Babar, Imam and Azhar? How many Karachi players are in the side besides Fawad Alam?

That said, the idea that someone who happens to be from Karachi is not mentally strong enough is deeply ignorant. But I guess that can be expected from an ignorant individual like Moin.

 

[Zaz]

He says there is no conspiracy against karachi players then goes to say karachi players are not mentally strong

How you can say and categorise hundreds of players like that i dont know

Moin seems to be in a long line of ex players who seem senseless and talk rubbish

 

[Kaddy]

Before that He did well in Australia , SA as well, those test matches you mentioned he was out of form. Just check in SA series his scores and check other batsmen too.

One more thing please check Virak Kohli record in England 2014 series considering how big player he is , 5 test match he was completely flop so by your logic his career should have been over.

You clearly didn't ready my post. Can you please show me where i wrote that his career should be over.

here you were against his drop from the team for which I told you that Shan Masood was rightly dropped by showing his list of pathetic scores.

He's not naturally very talented but he is very hard working professional, he definitely worked on his weakness during his time away from the team and since now he is in much better form, he deserves come back. This was my simple point, hopefully you will understand now.

He performed decently in SA & Aus. but that was in 2019 and he was dropped in 2021.

 

[MenInG]

Think this Karachi players as a topic has reached its limits.

Today's Pakistan where players are coming from all quarters (esp KPK) is not the same as the old place where you could choose players from Karachi or Punjab.

The selectors have lots of choices.

 

[Saj]

They hype around some players from Karachi becomes too much at times.

That's due to the media and their bias.

Unfortunately many of the players that the media think should be picked for Pakistan are simply not good enough.

 

[MenInG]

Good to see we have an advocate in Shahid Afridi for Karachi players

I am reading that Sharjeel and Azam are also on their way to the Pakistan ODI squad.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Good to see we have an advocate in Shahid Afridi for Karachi players

I am reading that Sharjeel and Azam are also on their way to the Pakistan ODI squad.

Are these two really going to improve the ODI batting, we are in need of some quality middle order batters in ODIs.

 

[Bewal Express]

Good to see we have an advocate in Shahid Afridi for Karachi players

I am reading that Sharjeel and Azam are also on their way to the Pakistan ODI squad.

At least there wont be any left overs at the dinner table

 

[srh]

Good to see we have an advocate in Shahid Afridi for Karachi players

I am reading that Sharjeel and Azam are also on their way to the Pakistan ODI squad.

Sharjeel is not from Karachi and he is mentally strong

 

[Rana]

At least there wont be any left overs at the dinner table

There are already no left overs in Babar’s Uber eats and Deliveroo diet team

 

[Rana]

Good to see we have an advocate in Shahid Afridi for Karachi players

I am reading that Sharjeel and Azam are also on their way to the Pakistan ODI squad.

I’m so happy I’m going to order a mighty zinger to celebrate!!

 

[world cup captain]

We're are a country full of crooks and traitors who'll sell their own mothers for a dime. It's about time we showcase that talent in the national team as well.

 

[SentOff]

Hopefully Saim Ayub, Saud Shakeel & Saad Khan won't be wasted like Fawad Alam and Hasan Raza.

Nice to see Abrar get an opportunity early. In the past we've seen peaks of Tabish Khan and Tanvir Ahmed just fly by. Mir Hamza is also one of those players right now.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Good to see we have an advocate in Shahid Afridi for Karachi players

I am reading that Sharjeel and Azam are also on their way to the Pakistan ODI squad.

It should be Saim Ayub, not Sharjeel. He is done as an ODI cricketer but may have some use as for T20's.

 

[Danyal A]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1691341247242248192

 

[Hextro]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1691341247242248192

You can't select players because of where they were born. Players from Karachi haven't been good in recent times thus a lot of them haven't been selected.

Instead of demanding that these players get selected for the sake of it, they should be protesting against Sindh's government's lack of sports development.

You can't pull other regions down to Karachi's level, you have to pull Karachi up to other regions' level.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Moin Khan is coaching the Durban Wolves in the Zim Afro T10 season 2, but strangely, Azam Khan is not playing in the tournament

 

[FearlessRoar]

Former Pakistan cricketer Moin Khan turned 53 today.

3 stumpings in an ODI innings is the most for any wicket-keeper, and Moin has done it twice in his career (vs WI 1995 & vs ENG 2000).