Karun Nair Performance Watch

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Kerala is not a small state by population. and nor is it any backward state like Jharkhand.
It is the most developed state of India. The issue is that malayalis don't bother about playing cricket.

I did not say it was a backward state, it has some 3.3 cr population so it is small compared to most Indian states. Yes I know they love soccer like Goa so most probably cricket playing fraternity is less, bottom line is there is no bias. This is a reply to post which said Keralites are discarded.

 

[SandyB]

Well technically it was Abey Kuruvilla who lived not very far from where i do in Mumbai. Lol. Keralites love their football too much.

Well Abey & Tinu were non-starters pretty much. The first proper Keralite who got a good run was Sreesanth. He caught the imagination of the public like no other from our state. Shame that things went that way with him. But even before the FIxing stuff we mallus were pulling him down at every possible oppurtunity .

 

[Rayyman]

This guy made a triple hundred! What in the actual hell just happened?

 

[Cricfan4eva]

He was a bit jittery when the ball did stuff. Not every ball but noticeably.

Got dropped on 30 odd off a pacer...then again dropped after he got a century off a pacer.

Almost got lbw when Keaton (pacer) got one to jag back.

But people who have seen him more closely have mentioned that he doesn't have any weakness against pace and bounce per se but may struggle a bit against swing.

Oh okay. I caught the lbw, the ball reversed quite a bit. Anyway it looks like apart from a few chances, its not like he was visibly more troubled by pacers, so I guess we'll only know when he comes up against them in a surface more helpful for pacers where he stands.

After watching highlights I can say that once he's settled he is confident of toying with spinners, not sure if its risk free though, a lot of his shots were aerial.

PS: Indians will be Indians, how did this thread become about "Kerela" players.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Oh okay. I caught the lbw, the ball reversed quite a bit. Anyway it looks like apart from a few chances, its not like he was visibly more troubled by pacers, so I guess we'll only know when he comes up against them in a surface more helpful for pacers where he stands.

After watching highlights I can say that once he's settled he is confident of toying with spinners, not sure if its risk free though, a lot of his shots were aerial.

PS: Indians will be Indians, how did this thread become about "Kerela" players.

One ball went over the slips too.

But yeah...this was a crazy crazy good knock.

What's amazing is that once he got set, he batted so fast yet you never got that feeling. Risk free hitting for a long long time.

He has scored 300 at a SR of 79....

Would you believe that....79....and he didn't attack the ball like Sehwag.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

One ball went over the slips too.

But yeah...this was a crazy crazy good knock.

What's amazing is that once he got set, he batted so fast yet you never got that feeling. Risk free hitting for a long long time.

He has scored 300 at a SR of 79....

Would you believe that....79....and he didn't attack the ball like Sehwag.

Well only yesterday I was thinking that this team has become one dimensional with everyone batting in the 40-60 S/R range. None of them are players who can just take the attack to the opposition in a Sehwagisque manner but to see Nair do it and only in his 3rd game was wonderful.

Hopefully he can continue in the same vein, Sehwag was one of the reasons we won many tests despite the pitches being batting friendly, India to have a lead of almost 300 with a days play to go, lol not many would have expected that.

 

[HateKiller]

Nair completed all 3 of his centuries on 4th day. Raised his bat 3 times. Has it happened before? I doubt it.

 

[sam_ahm]

Karun is a good player, I haven't seen much of this knock but from I've seen in the IPL he looks a good prospect. I'd still say he is not as good as KL Rahul or Ajinkya Rahane, so once Rahane is back I'll have him in the team straight away, that is very harsh on Karun but he will have to wait.

I will surely have him in the squad ahead of Rohit Sharma though.

 

[Hornbill]

Karnataka player .

Karnataka cricket association identified his talent, selected him on the basis of merit without showing any regional bias, Malayalis should realise this, can't understand the reason behind their over excitement. They lost ISL finals yesterday, I think malayalam news channels and people on the social media were desperately in search of something to celebrate.

 

[Metron]

Nair completed all 3 of his centuries on 4th day. Raised his bat 3 times. Has it happened before? I doubt it.

The Don Bradman scored 309 in one day. So he is easily the one!
There would be many more in the same scenario as Nair.

Lara and Sehwag did it like nair.

 

[Hornbill]

One ball went over the slips too.

But yeah...this was a crazy crazy good knock.

What's amazing is that once he got set, he batted so fast yet you never got that feeling. Risk free hitting for a long long time.

He has scored 300 at a SR of 79....

Would you believe that....79....and he didn't attack the ball like Sehwag.

It was a good innings but not a great one, he got three lives, cook reacted late and dropped him at slip, then he edged a ball while trying to reverse sweep but umpire didn't gave it out and there were no reviews left, keeper missed a difficult stumping chance.

 

[EliteCynical]

I know that bros,Raina community is from Kashmir but Suresh Raina grew up in UP and that's where he learn't to play.

Turns out you were right and as I said some people here were presumptious thinking you were being ignorant

Excerpt from TV 18

Karun Nair was born on the December 6, 1991, in Jodhpur, Rajasthan to Malayali parents. He played his junior cricket in the U-15 Karnataka side and eventually represented India's U-19 team.

 

[EliteCynical]

Where is [MENTION=135756]Abhilash93[/MENTION]. He was probably the first one to tell me Nair was a better bet than Shreyas Iyer. Awesome foresight buddy.

 

[Mp812]

Kerala is not a small state by population. and nor is it any backward state like Jharkhand.
It is the most developed state of India. The issue is that malayalis don't bother about playing cricket.

Congratulating 25-year-old middle order batsman Karun Nair for scoring his maiden triple century, Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) president Anurag Thakur on Monday credited Rahul Dravid, India's Under-19 coach, for nurturing and 'well grooming' the youngsters through his valuable tips and vast cricketing experience

 

[Hasan123]

Just watching him in the IPL you can see he has talent. No doubt he'll score plenty of runs at international level. Only question is how India fit him in the team as Rahane is a must in the test team. Indian line up to face Australia will be interesting

 

[Sadevdesai]

Another terrific batsman ..... just what the Indians needed .... damn !!!!

 

[troodon]

Just watching him in the IPL you can see he has talent. No doubt he'll score plenty of runs at international level. Only question is how India fit him in the team as Rahane is a must in the test team. Indian line up to face Australia will be interesting

Indian team has way too many options in terms of batting.

Rohit played a very good role in some of the recent Indian wins. He as usual failed to score big hundreds to stamp his place in the team. Now Nair has claimed his position. When Rahane comes in, it will be hard for selectors to drop Karun.

Same for Parthiv. He has shown he is better than Saha.

Wish some bowler comes through who can partner Shami and replace Yadav/Ishant.

BK is pretty decent in all conditions and deadly on green tracks. But he can be ineffective on flat decks and it is hard to win games overseas when our spinners are nullified and BK cannot move the ball on flat tracks.

 

[EliteCynical]

Ok, already i am huge fan. I thought Jayant was a grounded guy, this guy seems equally, if not more grounded than Jayant. No fancy celebrations, just goes about his business and his was so calm and collected in his interview, I was mighty impressed.

Most importantly, the guy possesses a solid technique against spin, something which many Indian bats off late were suspect of (thoughts sif? [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]) . His sweeping was out of this world. Saw someone paddle sweep for the first time, after Sachin. He has conventional sweep, slog sweep, paddle sweep, reverse sweep in his armory. Also plays inside out to the spinners and comes down the track and lofts when needed. All, this with a solid forward defensive technique.

For those who did not watch, Cook has a LONG STOP (yes gully cricket wala) for him to stop his upper cut/flick above the keeper.

Hail Nair.Here is wishing the guy success to serve India very very well and for a long time.

 

[EliteCynical]

Just watching him in the IPL you can see he has talent. No doubt he'll score plenty of runs at international level. Only question is how India fit him in the team as Rahane is a must in the test team. Indian line up to face Australia will be interesting

The best part is that he made his domestic debut in 2012 and played in first state Ranji game in Dec 2013. So to reach here in 3 years is actually incredible.

 

[Thivagar]

Indian batsmen's ceilings are always high as they don't let any hacks or loose cannons get through. Sadly the talent is unevenly distributed. India needs a 8 team domestic tournament higher than Ranji Trophy. Need to filter out the fillers.

 

[Thivagar]

Just saw his 150 to 300 highlights. There was an inside edge not given, missed catch and a missed stumping. I'm just wondering if Rahul's performance is being over shadowed by Nair's performance ? Can't tell much by watching highlights to be honest.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Thala i mentioned you in a comment above. Kindly respond nnga.

Haha....sure.

Ok, already i am huge fan. I thought Jayant was a grounded guy, this guy seems equally, if not more grounded than Jayant. No fancy celebrations, just goes about his business and his was so calm and collected in his interview, I was mighty impressed.

Most importantly, the guy possesses a solid technique against spin, something which many Indian bats off late were suspect of (thoughts sif? [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]) . His sweeping was out of this world. Saw someone paddle sweep for the first time, after Sachin. He has conventional sweep, slog sweep, paddle sweep, reverse sweep in his armory. Also plays inside out to the spinners and comes down the track and lofts when needed. All, this with a solid forward defensive technique.

For those who did not watch, Cook has a LONG STOP (yes gully cricket wala) for him to stop his upper cut/flick above the keeper.

Hail Nair.Here is wishing the guy success to serve India very very well and for a long time.

He is a gun player of spin. Heard he is the best player of spin in India. Very very composed too.

I think Indian batting of recent times have gotten better agianst spin. Pujara has got his game back...Kohli transformed...Vijay will plays spin well (struggles against Rashid notwithstanding)...Rahul - I dunno......Rahane is poor as ever against spin.

Addition of Nair....and add to that the batting of Ash and Jayant against spin....and our batting lineup looks really good to play spin.

Nair has a long way to go. I am amazed by his 300 but I feel we need more matches (in other pitches) to judge where he truly stands.

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

Absolutely great knock, no doubts about it, though much tougher tests await Karun.

Watching the highlights, there were two shots - one vs Broad when he was in 30s, ball bounced, caught him off guard and went through 2nd slip.

Another was after 100 vs Stokes, similar delivery, caught his off guard, he fended it somehow.

Those two shots suggest a weakness vs bouncers, plus his ability to play swing/seam is untested. Hopefully he will have enough opportunities to hone these skills before the away tests start next year.

 

[RamLakhan]

Karnataka cricket association identified his talent, selected him on the basis of merit without showing any regional bias, Malayalis should realise this, can't understand the reason behind their over excitement. They lost ISL finals yesterday, I think malayalam news channels and people on the social media were desperately in search of something to celebrate.

Exactly! Karnataka Cricket Association is actually the best one in the country over the years in identifying talents. They select players based on merits only and train them appropriately. That's why players feel safe playing for Karnataka. You can see that some players from Karnataka have different ethnicity like Manish Pandey, Mayank Agarwal, etc.

The reason why I got irritated was such a pronounced appraisal based on ethnicity. Where were these guys when he was playing for Karnataka and knocking the doors of Indian team? It was people of Karnataka and neutral cricket fans who identified his talent & referring him!

Should Maharashtrans take credit for all the success of Rajnikanth in Tamil Nadu? What bullshits are these? Of course they can take some pride for the roots, but completely ignoring the grooming/nurturing is uncalled for!

 

[Gabbar Singh]

It was a great knock however he's still behind Rahane for me in the pecking order. At home, where India play 5 bowlers, Nair will struggle to stay in the team if everyone else is fit. Nevertheless for India it's a nice problem to have.

 

[IAJ]

Inside edges, missed chances bla bla, who cares, the guy has just completed a tripple ton at the highest level of cricket, joins an exclusive club, well done lad

 

[Romali_rotti]

Moneh Karun, Super innings cherukka, Made a lot of Malayalees proud

 

[Romali_rotti]

It was a great knock however he's still behind Rahane for me in the pecking order. At home, where India play 5 bowlers, Nair will struggle to stay in the team if everyone else is fit. Nevertheless for India it's a nice problem to have.

Yeah while KN has had a nice start to his career, Rahane should be ahead of him because he is a proven commodity overseas..

 

[Hitman]

Moneh Karun, Super innings cherukka, Made a lot of Malayalees proud

Made a lot of us Assamese proud as well

 

[Romali_rotti]

Made a lot of us Assamese proud as well

Made all Indians proud

 

[Sin Nombre]

Just saw his 150 to 300 highlights. There was an inside edge not given, missed catch and a missed stumping. I'm just wondering if Rahul's performance is being over shadowed by Nair's performance ? Can't tell much by watching highlights to be honest.

I would rate Rahul's innings more. Chanceless and against fresh bowlers under scoreboard pressure.

Nair was dropped twice, Bairstow should have stumped him, nicked once with no English reviews left, and got away with a marginal leg before. And feasted on a tired bowling attack.

Still a 300 is a 300.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Exactly! Karnataka Cricket Association is actually the best one in the country over the years in identifying talents. They select players based on merits only and train them appropriately. That's why players feel safe playing for Karnataka. You can see that some players from Karnataka have different ethnicity like Manish Pandey, Mayank Agarwal, etc.

The reason why I got irritated was such a pronounced appraisal based on ethnicity. Where were these guys when he was playing for Karnataka and knocking the doors of Indian team? It was people of Karnataka and neutral cricket fans who identified his talent & referring him!

Should Maharashtrans take credit for all the success of Rajnikanth in Tamil Nadu? What bullshits are these? Of course they can take some pride for the roots, but completely ignoring the grooming/nurturing is uncalled for!

KSCA is quite corrupt too. How in the world did that garbage Binny get into the Indian team then? And it's not just that. I have friend who played in the Karnataka U-19 setup and told me about the rampant nepotism in that organisation. It's probably a bit better now compared to other states thanks to honest folks like Kumble/Dravid and probably Sri?

 

[RamLakhan]

KSCA is quite corrupt too. How in the world did that garbage Binny get into the Indian team then? And it's not just that. I have friend who played in the Karnataka U-19 setup and told me about the rampant nepotism in that organisation. It's probably a bit better now compared to other states thanks to honest folks like Kumble/Dravid and probably Sri?

Binny is not garbage (and so is Vinay). They are not just up there to International Level, that's it! They got selected to State teams. It is up to Indian Selection committee (and IPL franchisees for their teams) to select them for National Team. KSCA didn't force that. And a state team cannot run with 11 international quality players! They have to deal with their best resources, not everyone go to next level. If you have observed domestic cricket, I am sure you will agree that they are decent within that limit. Joginder Sharma was another Binny sometime back, and probably Pandya will be our future Binny, who knows! And Irfan Patan was reduced to Binny sometime back! Things don't shape up as we wish!

But I agree there is corruption/politics everywhere in India. I was referring to the general notion in Karnataka of accepting outsiders without the necessity of changing their culture/language!

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Binny is not garbage (and so is Vinay). They are not just up there to International Level, that's it! They got selected to State teams. It is up to Indian Selection committee (and IPL franchisees for their teams) to select them for National Team. KSCA didn't force that. And a state team cannot run with 11 international quality players! They have to deal with their best resources, not everyone go to next level. If you have observed domestic cricket, I am sure you will agree that they are decent within that limit. Joginder Sharma was another Binny sometime back, and probably Pandya will be our future Binny, who knows! And Irfan Patan was reduced to Binny sometime back! Things don't shape up as we wish!

But I agree there is corruption/politics everywhere in India. I was referring to the general notion in Karnataka of accepting outsiders without the necessity of changing their culture/language!

Agree with your post especially the last sentence.

 

[EliteCynical]

Haha....sure.


He is a gun player of spin. Heard he is the best player of spin in India. Very very composed too.

I think Indian batting of recent times have gotten better agianst spin. Pujara has got his game back...Kohli transformed...Vijay will plays spin well (struggles against Rashid notwithstanding)...Rahul - I dunno......Rahane is poor as ever against spin.

Addition of Nair....and add to that the batting of Ash and Jayant against spin....and our batting lineup looks really good to play spin.

Nair has a long way to go. I am amazed by his 300 but I feel we need more matches (in other pitches) to judge where he truly stands.

Thanks SIF. For his poise, calm, collected temperament alone I am ready to give him the long rope. I think we agree, he looks the real deal vs spin. I still think he is suspect vs swing/seam etc. Time will tell. 300 is an epic score to be made in your third innings. Should hold him in God stead for sometime.

I fear Puajara may be the scape goat again, once Rahane comes back.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Thanks SIF. For his poise, calm, collected temperament alone I am ready to give him the long rope. I think we agree, he looks the real deal vs spin. I still think he is suspect vs swing/seam etc. Time will tell. 300 is an epic score to be made in your third innings. Should hold him in God stead for sometime.

I fear Puajara may be the scape goat again, once Rahane comes back.

I personally think Vijay should be the one left out especially since we are going to stick with a 5 bowler strategy. Nair-Rahul are our future and Rahane and Kohli are automatic selections. It's gonna be between Pujara and Vijay and i think Puj needs to be given the longer rope as he's younger and has shown the penchant for big hundreds in the past. Unless of course we play 6 bats + keeper . Then they can all play.

 

[EliteCynical]

I personally think Vijay should be the one left out especially since we are going to stick with a 5 bowler strategy. Nair-Rahul are our future and Rahane and Kohli are automatic selections. It's gonna be between Pujara and Vijay and i think Puj needs to be given the longer rope as he's younger and has shown the penchant for big hundreds in the past. Unless of course we play 6 bats + keeper . Then they can all play.

All this IMHO. I have nothing against him. He is a close friend of a friend and I was really happy for this success, but somewhere deep down, I am unsure about him.He sometimes gives me an impression that "I am done with my 100, so on to you guys" and also has serious concentration issues.

On the other hand, Pujara has been a failure abroad where as Vijay has a superb record off late. Tough call. Kohli won't drop Vijay. Rahane or Pujara would sit out and then eventually come back when someone else goes out of form i reckon.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Thanks SIF. For his poise, calm, collected temperament alone I am ready to give him the long rope. I think we agree, he looks the real deal vs spin. I still think he is suspect vs swing/seam etc. Time will tell. 300 is an epic score to be made in your third innings. Should hold him in God stead for sometime.

I fear Puajara may be the scape goat again, once Rahane comes back.

In Asia, Pujara is 100% safe.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I personally think Vijay should be the one left out especially since we are going to stick with a 5 bowler strategy. Nair-Rahul are our future and Rahane and Kohli are automatic selections. It's gonna be between Pujara and Vijay and i think Puj needs to be given the longer rope as he's younger and has shown the penchant for big hundreds in the past. Unless of course we play 6 bats + keeper . Then they can all play.

If the next pitch is a turner, Rahane will be left out.

Or else there is a small chance Nair will be.

Vijay, Pujara, Rahul, Kohli are set for now.

For now.....Rahane is the one who is likely to be left out in Asia for the time being.

 

[EliteCynical]

In Asia, Pujara is 100% safe.

I really hope so. One thing we have been guilty of in the past is playing on reputation and past records, rather than horses for courses. Hope it changes now and K & K (Kohli and Kumble) see the light and ensure team is selected based on the conditions and not reputation.

 

[Thivagar]

I would rate Rahul's innings more. Chanceless and against fresh bowlers under scoreboard pressure.

Nair was dropped twice, Bairstow should have stumped him, nicked once with no English reviews left, and got away with a marginal leg before. And feasted on a tired bowling attack.

Still a 300 is a 300.

Thank you, Nair certainly looked like he had more talent than Rahul, played variety of shots in the highlights I saw. Can't judge a batsmen based on highlights as its misleading. Lets see how both batsmen do in future.

 

[Haripotter]

He made a lot of us kannadigas proud as well
Actually KL Rahul too made us proud so it's double proudness for us kannadigas and mostly we Indians

 

[Sin Nombre]

If the next pitch is a turner, Rahane will be left out.

Or else there is a small chance Nair will be.

Vijay, Pujara, Rahul, Kohli are set for now.

For now.....Rahane is the one who is likely to be left out in Asia for the time being.

Rahane is overall our second best test batsman and the best slip fielder, I just don't see him getting dropped. He is easily worth 10-20 runs for his slip fielding alone and we have seen how much worse the rest of our lot is.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Rahane is overall our second best test batsman and the best slip fielder, I just don't see him getting dropped. He is easily worth 10-20 runs for his slip fielding alone and we have seen how much worse the rest of our lot is.

I was speaking with respect to next test in India on a turner likely.

If its a swingy one, Rahane will be back.

Or else, Kohli will probably do a minor horses for courses policy till someone gets injured or goes out of form.

I could be wrong but its hard to see Nair getting dropped for the next test if its a turner. But then Dharmasala may swing so Rahane could be back instead of him.

Rahane's slip catching is magical against spinners.....we do seem to miss that.

 

[Napa]

Thank you, <b>Nair certainly looked like he had more talent than Rahul,</b> played variety of shots in the highlights I saw. Can't judge a batsmen based on highlights as its misleading. Lets see how both batsmen do in future.

Also better acting abilities

When he tried a reverse sweep and the English appealed he looked at them with the expression "I can't believe you are appealing that". Though there was a little touch on the face of the bat the umpire bought it!

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Rahul is way more talented than Nair guys.

I am waiting for him to tighten up his game. Once he does that, he will most likely make a mockery of most batsmen.

 

[JaDed]

Rahul is way more talented than Nair guys.

I am waiting for him to tighten up his game. Once he does that, he will most likely make a mockery of most batsmen.

Don't think he has it in him,sorry to say,neither the ability to tighten his game nor his fitness.I'm really pessimistic about Rahul due to some or the other reason,hope he proves me wrong.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Don't think he has it in him,sorry to say,neither the ability to tighten his game nor his fitness.I'm really pessimistic about Rahul due to some or the other reason,hope he proves me wrong.

Heard his game was tight before.

The looseness in his game is a recent malady.

 

[JaDed]

Heard his game was tight before.

The looseness in his game is a recent malady.

From what I have usually observed(there can be bias) that players that either have loose game or have got it incorporated into their game by the age of 24-27 never end up getting rid of it.

In tests find Dhawan/Rohit/Dinesh/Robin/Gauti all of them belonging to that category showed good promise and we kept waiting for them to tighten their game.

TBF Rahul still is 24 but he has a carefree attitude towards to game the discipline is not on same level as other great ex Karnataka batsmen.

 

[FlickedOffHips]

another Indian batting powerhouse well into development:AAG

 

[Statsman]

He made a lot of us kannadigas proud as well
Actually KL Rahul too made us proud so it's double proudness for us kannadigas and mostly we Indians

All thanks to a Punjabi from Delhi for giving them this opportunity and leading them superbly.

 

[Statsman]

Very good knock. As pointed out not chanceless, but still awesome.

 

[jusarrived]

From what I have usually observed(there can be bias) that players that either have loose game or have got it incorporated into their game by the age of 24-27 never end up getting rid of it.

In tests find Dhawan/Rohit/Dinesh/Robin/Gauti all of them belonging to that category showed good promise and we kept waiting for them to tighten their game.

TBF Rahul still is 24 but he has a carefree attitude towards to game the discipline is not on same level as other great ex Karnataka batsmen.

Rahuls game is not loose . The likes of Dhawan , Rohit and GG had technical issues . His issues are just like Virats , when you play a lot of LOI's there is a tendency to play higher risk shots in tests especially early in a series . Like Virat he has the game to play aggressive cricket and actually get away with it .

 

[jusarrived]

Don't think he has it in him,sorry to say,neither the ability to tighten his game nor his fitness.I'm really pessimistic about Rahul due to some or the other reason,hope he proves me wrong.

Again sir , he got injured does not mean hes unfit . Do you know how he got injured ?
Pujara is unfit , Rahul is as fit as Virat imo

 

[JattMaula]

Rahul will play for India in all formats for minimum 10 years.

Take this statement to bank. You will gate 100 rupee notes.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

Again sir , he got injured does not mean hes unfit . Do you know how he got injured ?
Pujara is unfit , Rahul is as fit as Virat imo

Wasn't Rahul cramping big time in this test match in the start of the indian batting and Parthiv after keeping 157 overs looked better.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

I really hope so. One thing we have been guilty of in the past is playing on reputation and past records, rather than horses for courses. Hope it changes now and K & K (Kohli and Kumble) see the light and ensure team is selected based on the conditions and not reputation.

Its not that simple is it.

So you expect the batter replacing Pujara for away conditions to come in and just be settled at no.3? A less technically adept Pujara will have a good chance of doing better than someone who is technically better but is coming into the tour after being on the bench or fringes for the home tests.

 

[SandyB]

Thank you, Nair certainly looked like he had more talent than Rahul, played variety of shots in the highlights I saw. Can't judge a batsmen based on highlights as its misleading. Lets see how both batsmen do in future.

Not really . Rahul was considered a future top bat prospect even before making the team . Almost Kohli ,Sharma level hype !. I remember during his debut series in AUS 2014, people everywhere were talking about his temperament ,talent etc etc. There were many articles discussing him as a kind of T20 based Test batsman.

Karun never had that level of hype around him. It was actually very surprising for me to see him hit this 303*. Among the newest generation of batsmen Rahul was considered most likely to notch up such huge scores.

 

[SandyB]

Rahul will play for India in all formats for minimum 10 years.

Take this statement to bank. You will gate 100 rupee notes.

He has already established his ODI & T20 credentials. In IND ability to play multiple formats is always a huge PLUS when it comes to a players selection. (See the example Old-Kohli, Rohit VS Pujara). We would love to have an ALL-FORMAT opener like Gambhir / Sehwag used to be in the past.

 

[EliteCynical]

Wasn't Rahul cramping big time in this test match in the start of the indian batting and Parthiv after keeping 157 overs looked better.

I wonder if Rahul is trying to copy Kohli in terms of diet intake, fluids and fitness. Every body is different and looks like his body cannot sustain the regime like Kohlis. He looks fit and all but comes across as too stiff and fragile. His fitness is his only enemy I suppose.

 

[RamLakhan]

I wonder if Rahul is trying to copy Kohli in terms of diet intake, fluids and fitness. Every body is different and looks like his body cannot sustain the regime like Kohlis. He looks fit and all but comes across as too stiff and fragile. His fitness is his only enemy I suppose.

Yes he should be OK with proper Karnataka-Style Cuisine with regular fitness regime (like Dravid & Cuisine)

 

[RamLakhan]

Agree with your post especially the last sentence.

I heard Vinay is again in the reckoning for upcoming LOIs! Just goes to show that we have such lower standards in two departments - Seamer & Seam-bowling Alrounder! This has nothing to do with politics/regionalism! Where the hell are these "elite" players in India whom we can select? (Are they hidden in some bushes or in jungles?) Any player with bit of talent and performance can get into the squad! This is the truth with Indian Cricket and we should stop criticizing/comparing with players from other nations! Just like how teams like Australia/RSA/England select random spinners because they just cannot produce quality players in that department! Only thing to solve this issue is by trade exchange of players between nations (export some spinners and import some seamers!) I don't think that is good, we will have these varied strengths to maintain competition between teams...

 

[EliteCynical]

Its not that simple is it.

So you expect the batter replacing Pujara for away conditions to come in and just be settled at no.3? A less technically adept Pujara will have a good chance of doing better than someone who is technically better but is coming into the tour after being on the bench or fringes for the home tests.

How do you know that the new guy would fail, when it hasn't been tried at all? It is an assumption right? Rahane did better than any other batter at 5 in England on a green top. We have tried Pujara (an example here) and he failed abroad. Why not try someone and who knows, may be he would settle down. Pravin Amre scored a hundred on debut at Durban. Pujara beind technically adept or inept is a reflection of his mental make up when he plays abroad.

 

[Sin Nombre]

Heard his game was tight before.

The looseness in his game is a recent malady.

He is a bit too influenced by Kohli tbh. Too aggressive for his own good at the start of innings, without having the same ability to steal singles.

 

[JattMaula]

He is a bit too influenced by Kohli tbh. Too aggressive for his own good at the start of innings, without having the same ability to steal singles.

Every batsman going through multiple format adaptation goes through this phase. His newfound big hitting is messing with his shot selection. Likes of Yuvraj, Raina never adapted but Rahul is going in reverse and will find it easier.

 

[Thivagar]

Not really . Rahul was considered a future top bat prospect even before making the team . Almost Kohli ,Sharma level hype !. I remember during his debut series in AUS 2014, people everywhere were talking about his temperament ,talent etc etc. There were many articles discussing him as a kind of T20 based Test batsman.

Karun never had that level of hype around him. It was actually very surprising for me to see him hit this 303*. Among the newest generation of batsmen Rahul was considered most likely to notch up such huge scores.

Interesting, never watched enough of Rahul to safely evaluate.

 

[JattMaula]

Not really . Rahul was considered a future top bat prospect even before making the team . Almost Kohli ,Sharma level hype !. I remember during his debut series in AUS 2014, people everywhere were talking about his temperament ,talent etc etc. There were many articles discussing him as a kind of T20 based Test batsman.

Karun never had that level of hype around him. It was actually very surprising for me to see him hit this 303*. Among the newest generation of batsmen Rahul was considered most likely to notch up such huge scores.

He was hyped as a test specialist opener. And he was not considered for LO spot even after his century in Australia. IPL 2016 was breakout for him in LO.

 

[SandyB]

He was hyped as a test specialist opener. And he was not considered for LO spot even after his century in Australia. IPL 2016 was breakout for him in LO.

True. But as a Test Quality Player he was hyped like anything before his debut !! He was being mentored by Dravid, who rated him very high. That was a tremendous plus for him. The IPL showed his LOI potential which he showed in the T20's Vs WI and also one of the recent ODI series. . But he had caught the imagination of many Indain Cicket writers by then..

Interesting, never watched enough of Rahul to safely evaluate.

Guy is a great prospect. Not just the "promised talent" stuff like Rohit. He is actually known for delivering big. And his International career till now has been indicative of that .

We need someone dynamic at the top . Dhawan & Rohit are good, but they lack the dynamic play of past openers (Sehwag,Gambhir,Sach,Gang etc) . These guys take a bit of time to get set before they cash in . But that brand of ODI batting is going outdated fast. Rahul can do better methinks.

 

[Ind_Fan]

In the recently concluded series in Aus, with India A, Karun nair had a string of low scores, where Manish Pandey fared better. So, its better to wait and see how he performs when and if he is given a chance, I think......

 

[Sin Nombre]

In the recently concluded series in Aus, with India A, Karun nair had a string of low scores, where Manish Pandey fared better. So, its better to wait and see how he performs when and if he is given a chance, I think......

Manish Pandey deservedly gets a lot of leeway with fans because of his innings in that chase in Australia earlier i the year.

He had a poor series against NZ and needs to make the next one count against England.

 

[FlickedOffHips]

Manish Pandey deservedly gets a lot of leeway with fans because of his innings in that chase in Australia earlier i the year.

He had a poor series against NZ and needs to make the next one count against England.

he really does. gave his wickets away too many times. if he had done well, he might have been given the test spot instead of nair.

 

[Ind_Fan]

Manish Pandey deservedly gets a lot of leeway with fans because of his innings in that chase in Australia earlier i the year.

He had a poor series against NZ and needs to make the next one count against England.

I was mentioning about the recent A tour, not the one 12 months back. Also, I have nothing against nair, its just that the rohit sharma "all talent but no show" that scares me....again I will be more than happy if nair scores fighting 50-75, in any match overseas.. Also, I never meant that pandey was better or inferior, both deserve chances. Afterall, India have very busy schedules every year...

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Poor Karun Nair.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">India's selectors have just made a damning statement of what they think of Karun Nair as a player. Very very hard on him. Would love to know what he was told when the team was announced.</p>— Harsha Bhogle (@bhogleharsha) <a href="https://twitter.com/bhogleharsha/status/1038004478040068096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">7 September 2018</a></blockquote>
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[troodon]

Nair would have been a bunny for Anderson and Broad. He cannot play the incoming delivery and gets cleaned up or gets LBW out.

There are better batsmen than Nair and that too in the shorter formats. He is unreliable and I would take Shreyas Iyer over him and I believe Iyer is overrated as well.

 

[Srtfan]

Iyer is not test batsman,in odi iyer is better than nair

 

[spiderreddy]

Karun Nair scored 99, 166* vs India Red in Duleep trophy

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Scores a triple hundred, then fails in 3 consecutive test matches vs Australia and is never seen again.

Will Nair play test cricket for India again?

 

[JaDed]

Scores a triple hundred, then fails in 3 consecutive test matches vs Australia and is never seen again.

Will Nair play test cricket for India again?

“In his last 56 domestic matches for the state, across formats, Nair has gone without a century”

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-will-karun-nair-get/articleshow/80443909.cms

Doesn’t look like it

 

[Mobashir]

One of the most talked about cricketer on this forum - Karun Nair!

So India has the best everything that exist in the world and if you don't believe it and you need proof, here it is right in front of you : Karun Nair was dropped from the indian side.

This is what we have to read from the past 3 years. So can anyone, especially indians fans, why was Karun Nair dropped from the indian test side?
Apart the facts that :
- he struggled to score a run in his last 3 tests against Australia.
- his First class average of 48 is nothing special in Indian domestic cricket
- his first class average is in the 20's in the last 2 first class seasons
- his List A stats are even lesser than Mohammad Nawaz

And I think we can go on and on.

So do anyone here consider him a very good batsman that should be back in the test team for India?
Don't forget he averages 62 and his replacement, Hanuma Vihari average half as much as him, 32.

 

[Ab Fan]

Posters here talk about everyone should be getting equal number of chances to prove themselves but fact is if someone has a higher ceiling, he will always be backed more than others who have lesser ceiling. This bias will stay and that is how teams will find success.

Hence, KL Rahul will always be backed and prioritised over Mayank and Nair.

Pant and Gill will be prioritised over Shreyas.

Nair had a dream start but he was not going to get a long run in Indian team because they could see more potential in some other guys. If given a long run, Karun Nair would have probably done well in Asian conditions but struggle outside Asia. Hence, there is no point persisting with him.

Mayank and Shaw were dropped instantly too because they saw higher potential in Gill for overseas tests compared to the other two.