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Kashmir is not the property of India or Pakistan. It belongs to the Kashmiri people: Nehru

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in a speech at a rally in Kashmir, Nehru said: “Kashmir is not the property of India or Pakistan. When Kashmir acceded to India, we made it clear to the leaders of the Kashmiri people that we would ultimately abide by the verdict of their plebiscite”.

On June 26, 1952, Nehru told the Indian parliament: “If, after a proper plebiscite, the people of Kashmir say ‘No we do not wish to be with India’ we are committed to accept it though it might pain us.” Again, in one of his most categorical statements, made in 1952, which spoke of the “minds and hearts of the men and women of Kashmir”, Nehru said: “With all deference to this parliament, I would like to say that the ultimate decision will be made in the minds and hearts of the men and women of Kashmir and not in this parliament or in the United Nations.”

On Aug 7, 1956, Nehru told the Indian legislature: “If however, the people of Kashmir do not wish to remain with us, let them go by all means. We will not keep them against their wishes, however painful it may [be] for us.”

How strange that today, instead of Indian politicians, a retired general, former spy chief A.S. Daulat should talk about winning the hearts and minds of the Kashmiri people. (Quotations have been taken from a booklet by Rasheed Ahmad Kidwai and from the book Pakistan: From Religion to Fascism.)
 
It's time to remove or change some of the stuff written in history books.
 
It's time to remove or change some of the stuff written in history books.

History? History is still being written or re-written...by Modi.

For example, article 370 revoked and with it the history of 7 decades of mujahideen terrorism has been wiped out.
 
History? History is still being written or re-written...by Modi.

For example, article 370 revoked and with it the history of 7 decades of mujahideen terrorism has been wiped out.

what do India expect from the kashmiris, they do peaceful demonstrations, piut down their guns, try to ask for azardi peacefully and you guys just abuse them
 
History? History is still being written or re-written...by Modi.

For example, article 370 revoked and with it the history of 7 decades of mujahideen terrorism has been wiped out.

And replaced by a ideology of a little 4ft facist right wing burnt match
 
History? History is still being written or re-written...by Modi.

For example, article 370 revoked and with it the history of 7 decades of mujahideen terrorism has been wiped out.

This is sad. From an outside perspective I really thought Nehru was a profound leader of India. It seems like current lot of India is ready to downgrade Nehru to fit their narrative. Very sad to see, perhaps down the line even words of Gandhi would not matter to them if it doesn't fit the current narrative.
 
History? History is still being written or re-written...by Modi.

For example, article 370 revoked and with it the history of 7 decades of mujahideen terrorism has been wiped out.

Strange.. YOu didn't mention balakot in this post :))
 
This is sad. From an outside perspective I really thought Nehru was a profound leader of India. It seems like current lot of India is ready to downgrade Nehru to fit their narrative. Very sad to see, perhaps down the line even words of Gandhi would not matter to them if it doesn't fit the current narrative.

Gandhi was killed by a hindutva goon named Godse and these days RSS and BJP followers are trying to portray Godse as a hero
 
1952 - that's all you need to know. A statement made in a different time for a different era. The world, including India/Kashmir, has changed a lot since 1952. We can't be held hostage to what someone said or promised 70 years ago. We can only work forward with the situation we have in our hands today.

Is Uttar Pradesh the property of India or does it belong to Uttar Pradeshis? Is KPK the property of Pakistan or does it belong to the Pashtuns? Not mutually exclusive.
 
what do India expect from the kashmiris, they do peaceful demonstrations, piut down their guns, try to ask for azardi peacefully and you guys just abuse them

The way I see are people who respond aggressively to aggressive posts (and not-so-aggressive posts), here saying that Kashmiris shouldn't response at all to any in-person agression.
 
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