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THE FIGHT IS ON!
@TeamKhabib vs @TheNotoriousMMA Oct. 6 in Las Vegas at #UFC229!
@TeamKhabib vs @TheNotoriousMMA Oct. 6 in Las Vegas at #UFC229!
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Connor has been on a hiatus so don't know how octagon ready he will be. If he wasn't rusty, I would certainly pick him as my winner.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THE FIGHT IS ON!<a href="https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TeamKhabib</a> vs <a href="https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheNotoriousMMA</a> Oct. 6 in Las Vegas at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UFC229?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UFC229</a>! <a href="https://t.co/GHNzmj4eWY">pic.twitter.com/GHNzmj4eWY</a></p>— #UFC227 (@ufc) <a href="https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1025493255704571904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3 August 2018</a></blockquote>
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Khabib to win by submission
kimura lock
All depends on connor's standup game. We saw that he went the distance with Nate so he obviously has gotten better in cardio aspect unlike before where he would give up after the first round. If connor doesn't gas out, I don't think khabib can dominate him on striking.
But on ground, i will give khabib complete dominance over connor. This is tough fight for connor more so than it is for khabib in my opinion.
I remember many people saying oh this fight wouldn't happen and how Conor was ducking this guy, absolute rubbish from casual fans. They couldn't even overlook the fact that the entire bus angle and stuff Dana said after was all hype for the fight, people need to understand that fights need to marinate before they can be made. Beyond all of that, Conor is not only taking this fight; he is jumping in at the highest level after a long lay off which evens things out and will make the fight possibly more competitive.
Khabibs best chance of a victory to be fair and surely his followers will be 100% sure off dethroning a Conor that has been inactive for around 2 years or so, must expect nothing less then domination given his superior resume, undefeated streak and samba background etc
Ring Rust is a myth. All it needs is a good training camp
just check recent finish by Chad Mendes
You do understand that with Khabib on Top for 3 minutes is equal to 3 rounds of stand up with Nate?
Having back on floor with an expert grappler like Khabib on top simply blows up the energy levels.
One should not be fooled by cardio showed by Connor in Nate fight. They hardly spent anytime on ground.
In first fight, Connor lost so much energy so fast because of being unprepared to fight at 170. In next fight, he was ready. But he can never be ready for a ground game. His fast twitch muscles aren't made for it.
But that is the thing about connor, his takedown defence is second to none. His division was full of guys with wrestling & BJJ background. Yet how many times did we see him go to the ground or allow his opponent to clinch & dominate him? I think none
He is like a lighter version of chuck lidell. If Connor didn't have hiatus, i would bet my money on him but now i tilt slightly towards khabib as he holds the upper hand & yeah you are right if khabib gets him down on the ground, the fight is over within a round.
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION]
What’s your prediction for this fight?
I think Kahbib wins by a unanimous decision because Conor is coming back after such a long lay off.
Khabib will probably start as the favourite, if I were him I'd take my time and try to go deep because there are already question marks on Conors engine and coming of this lay off will just exaggerate those issues. Plus the deeper it goes, the more vulnerable Conor will become and the more likely Khabib will be able to take him down. Khabib is very battle hardened to, has gone the distance in his last 2 fights and won over the distance 10 times.
Conor on the other hand is a very explosive fighter and his command of space is amazing, he has an exceptional striking IQ and am 100 % sure he would have been a world champion in Boxing had he taken up that sport instead of MMA. You can have the best sparring in the world but when you actually fight it's completely different, having a good camp behind you is great but nothing ensures your form and fitness more then staying active; so I expect his feet and reaction speed to be a lot slower, there will more opportunities to cut him off.
However, while he could have problems if he's in there longer then he'd like to be; Conor's style has always been very explosive and that will play into his advantage because of the possibility of an early finish. He does't look to break you down methodically, he feints, bobs / weaves, slips / slides and looks to set up his punches, doesn't just throw those hands but picks his shots and is dangerous in mid and long range. Am sure they'd have been aware of his engine to but the man always trains for the KO and this fight will be no different.
If Khabib was to ever beat Conor, it would have to be now but am going with Conor by KO.
If you are playing down in-ring activity then I can't take you seriously on any level when it comes to the fight game, it plays a monumental factor in your preparation for championship fight at the elite level. How many fighters in combat sport do you know that went into a world championship fight after a 2 or more year lay off and dethroned the number one fighter in their respective division ? heck how many do you even know that took a world championship fight after a big lay off ?
What about Chad Mendes ? am not sure, but are you telling me he beat Holloway after his period of inactivity to become the new world champion ?
Mendes was taking Connor down.
Diaz did as well in the first fight.
He isn't that invincible against takedowns.
GSP vs Bisping after 4 years of layoff
Randy Couture vs Tim Sylvia after 1 year layoff
Jon Jones has fought 3 times since 2015. In Jan 2015 he fought DC. Then after 16 months OSP. Then after 16 months DC. Ring Rust! Nah. He decimated DC
I could count more
The thing is a good 8-10 weeks training camp is more than enough to prepare a fighter for a tough fight.
Khabib came back after 2 years of layoff vs the then good Michael Johsson and just mauled him.
GSP fought Condit after 19 months layoff
And Conor fought Flyod in August last year
it's not like he has been away from sparring/training
GSP vs Bisping after 4 years of layoff
Randy Couture vs Tim Sylvia after 1 year layoff
Jon Jones has fought 3 times since 2015. In Jan 2015 he fought DC. Then after 16 months OSP. Then after 16 months DC. Ring Rust! Nah. He decimated DC
I could count more
The thing is a good 8-10 weeks training camp is more than enough to prepare a fighter for a tough fight.
Khabib came back after 2 years of layoff vs the then good Michael Johsson and just mauled him.
GSP fought Condit after 19 months layoff
And Conor fought Flyod in August last year
it's not like he has been away from sparring/training
And after Dillashaw won today, I remembered Dominick Cruz coming off a two year layoff to win a split decision against TJ
You've picked out a handful of names which goes to show you how rare it is to triumph after a long lay off in a world championship fight, anyhow Jones is a drugs cheat, Michael Johnson isn't world class and that wasn't a world championship fight, Randy / Sylvia (1 year lay off not long enough to be significant), when Cruz beat TJ it was just 15 months of inactivity and Dilshaw was only out for 8 months prior to the win today.
However, you only gave me one example of an instance where the period of inactivity was close to 22 months or more and that was GSP dethroning Bisping, but lets be honest; Bisping has always been fringe world level at best and GSP was gassing during the third, his skill which is arguably the greatest ever was enough to neutralise his lack of in-ring activity against a limited opponent.
Also, preparing for Boxing and MMA is completely different; they are two completely different sports. For Conor especially, he had to train his body and mind to obey Boxing rules which meant abandoning MMA habits which had become innate over a 10 year period, sparring is completely distinct and so is your general tactical warfare. The one thing you could compare is conditioning, but you could be in peak shape and still struggle when it comes to your timing, rhythm and movement; the output can become very sloppy especially when your style revolves around a stand up game as well.
I agree, MMA isn't a scientific combat sport so long periods away will not be as significant in comparison to other forms of combat but it remains a factor; this is why you don't find many MMA fighters going into huge world title fights after long periods away from the Octagon, but you find more of them compared to other sports. Having said, even if you still believe it is no factor on any level you should surely see this as an advantage in favour of Khabib who will be a lot more battled hardened compared to Conor; this is also one of the reasons why he is starting as the odds on favourite beyond his wrestling background.
Listen to what Dominick Cruz says here https://youtu.be/KXmW-IB5Fog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9U1U2oggV0
Anyways, we are both entitled to our opinions.
Yeah fair enough, but do you not feel like Khabib will have an edge over Conor in that department when it comes ring activity and being battle hardened? we know Conor doesn't have the best endurance as it is, so getting past the first 2 rounds will be even more important for Khabib
His lack endurance has not much to do with Ring Rust. He used to gas out even when he was supremely active. Yes, probablyyou are right. Khabib will have advantage of being more active guy but not much advantage as one might think initially.
Conors the better fighter on the feet. Khabib is better on the ground. Will be interesting.
Can't believe that DJ lost yesterday though. Cejudo looked twice the size of him weirdly enough. And Cody literally made the same mistake as he did the first time vsing TJ. Clown.
My point was that endurance was poor as it is however with this period of inactivity those problems naturally ought to get worse. I think the key in this fight from Conor's POV will be the first 2 rounds (he and his team are aware of this to, I've not seen him put on so much muscle before to they are going for the early stoppage) beyond that for Khabib 3-5 will be vital.
First 1 and half rounds. After that it's #KhabibTime
[MENTION=147005]Dagestani_Eagle[/MENTION] It's very unusual for an Indian to be so interested in any combat sport, how did you get into MMA and what is the origin of your khabib fandom
7.5 minutes is a long time![]()
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SendMeLocation?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SendMeLocation</a><a href="https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TeamKhabib</a> finally has his location. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UFC229?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UFC229</a> <a href="https://t.co/DY9A2oV7Ip">pic.twitter.com/DY9A2oV7Ip</a></p>— UFC (@ufc) <a href="https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1026515650695426049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">6 August 2018</a></blockquote>
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Come on guys, get hyped! Less than a month before the biggest UFC fight of all time!!!
Mods, can we please get a vote on who we'll see writhing in a pool of their own blood and sweat in a month's time?
I personally think it will be a very tough fight and Khabib will struggle initially. He'll probably be on the defense for the first two rounds, taking shots from Conor and waiting for just the right moment to get that takedown. Once the fight progresses past those initial rounds however, McGregor will become susceptible to those deadly takedowns and might get PUT DOWN by round four.
Khabib might go on defeat Ferguson and then GSP to become an MMA legend. I hope he doesn't try to change weight-classes and simply owns the lightweight division and then retire after an awe-inspiring 30-0 MMA record. InshAllah.
However, for all we know, McGregor might put Khabib to sleep and surprise the whole world once again. I think he might fight a total of two more fights after, one against Diaz and one against GSP or Floyd Mayweather.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I know there have been a lot of questions about this, so here's a big update ... <br><br>Khabib Nurmagomedov and Conor McGregor will both attend a UFC press conference next Thursday at Radio City Music Hall in NYC.</p>— Brett Okamoto (@bokamotoESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/1039918927277568000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Connor has been on a hiatus so don't know how octagon ready he will be. If he wasn't rusty, I would certainly pick him as my winner.
I know it was a close fight to call before the fact but Tap-Tap chicken got absolutely humiliated.
Also, this chicken is jokes; I thought I had found new-found respect for him when I heard that he was not pressing charges against Khabib's corner, only for it to be revealed that Conor instigated the second brawl by randomly punching Khabib's brother when the guy was simply trying to reign Khabib in.
Conor does not deserve a rematch until he proves that he has improved massively from this showing. However, knowing Dana, we'll most likely be getting a rematch early next year.
I know it was a close fight to call before the fact but Tap-Tap chicken got absolutely humiliated.
Also, this chicken is jokes; I thought I had found new-found respect for him when I heard that he was not pressing charges against Khabib's corner, only for it to be revealed that Conor instigated the second brawl by randomly punching Khabib's brother when the guy was simply trying to reign Khabib in.
Conor does not deserve a rematch until he proves that he has improved massively from this showing. However, knowing Dana, we'll most likely be getting a rematch early next year.
I don't think Connor is brave enough to agree to a rematch. This wasn't a fight like Nate Diaz's. Khabib dominated every round.
Khabib to win by submission
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good knock. Looking forward to the rematch.</p>— Conor McGregor (@TheNotoriousMMA) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1048865614197010432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Saying it is one thing. Actually doing it is another. I might be wrong though and it may still happen.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alhumdulillah, All praises belong to Almighty Allah SWT. Congratulations to my brother <a href="https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TeamKhabib</a> on a convincing 27-0. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheEagle?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheEagle</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KhabibMcGregor?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KhabibMcGregor</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UFC229?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UFC229</a><br><br>PC: BossLogic <a href="https://t.co/1ssS1zphkK">pic.twitter.com/1ssS1zphkK</a></p>— Inzamam ul Haq (@InziTheLegend) <a href="https://twitter.com/InziTheLegend/status/1048859922354634753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Wow, didn't realise Inzy and Khabib are friends.
I dont think Inzy even follows MMA, even if he does theres no way they are friends.
Inzy I dont even think runs his own social media accounts. So whoever posted this is a khabib fan and runs Inzy's social media.
[MENTION=131506]blackanhyellow[/MENTION] inzy's also part of the Pakistan MMA federation so of course he follows UFC.
[MENTION=131506]blackanhyellow[/MENTION] inzy's also part of the Pakistan MMA federation so of course he follows UFC.
Feel for [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] told ya McNugget is gonna be owned)
Am a fight fan, not a bangwagoning casual who tunes in purely because of a fighters religious beliefs. It doesn't affect me personally if Khabib or Conor triumph, am just glad these fights are made and value the elite talents. Having said that I did state if there was a time Khabib would defeat Conor it would be now and he thoroughly dominated the fight. As for what you told me, I don't think I have ever blessed you with a conversation with myself?
I'd say a rematch is almost guaranteed.
Easy money for everyone involved.
Am a fight fan, not a bangwagoning casual who tunes in purely because of a fighters religious beliefs. It doesn't affect me personally if Khabib or Conor triumph, am just glad these fights are made and value the elite talents. Having said that I did state if there was a time Khabib would defeat Conor it would be now and he thoroughly dominated the fight. As for what you told me, I don't think I have ever blessed you with a conversation with myself?
all too reminiscent of WWE.
Boring!!
Khabib destroyed him.
Let’s not compare acting with actual fight.
This is all an act. Be it implicit.
Otherwise macgregor would have been banned for being a racist. And everyone would have been locked up and arrested.
Extremely interesting fight, been waiting for this a while.
Connor with his left will be dangerous and especially with khabib constantly leaving his chin open on exchanges.
Just praying khabib can get him down in the first 30/45 seconds of the fight. Khabib will wear him down and Conor will lose his power as the championship rounds get closer.
I think Khabib stops him in the 4th. Insha’Allah
Called it
I don't think Khabib will take a rematch because he does not care for money nor fame, he wouldn't want to go through all that again. In his mind, he has embarrassed Conor and that is all that matters to him.
Not quite.
Khabib got him in the 5th and he actually outstruck Conor.
all too reminiscent of WWE.
Boring!!
That fight ended because Pettis broke his hand
Watched a documentary series on Khabib and man it was intense. I don't even like MMA but the documentary had me going like go Khabib - u my hero now.