Kicked, jeered, abused: Videos of paramilitary jawans manhandled by Kashmir mobs go viral

[JaDed]

Three video clips of security personnel being roughed up and abused by mobs purportedly in Kashmir are being widely shared on social media.

In the first video a youngster whacks a paramilitary jawan in the head while in the other, a man kicks the helmet a security man is carrying in his hand and in the third video a group of youth is seen jeering, hurling invectives and getting physical with the men in uniform, who could be seen leaving the place quietly despite all the humiliation they suffered.

In the three videos, the soldiers are in fatigues as mobs shout “India go back” slogans and hurl abuses in Kashmiri.

HT can’t vouch for the veracity of the videos, which seem to have been shot using mobile phones.

But, a police officer in Kashmir said on Wednesday the clips were of April 9 in Budgam when these paramilitary personnel were returning from poll duty after the violence marred Srinagar LS by-polls that left eight people dead and scores injured including security personnel.

“Their combat fatigues, weapons which they carried are INSAS rifles and SLRs and therefore there is no doubts that the men were from paramilitary force, probably CRPF. The incident has happened in Budgam area of Srinagar,” said official sources.

Only 7% of the voters reached polling stations, the worst turnout in the border state in almost 30 years. The violence forced the election commission to postpone Anantnag bypoll in the state from April 12 to May 25.

Police had taken note of the videos, a home department official said.

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[hafeezrocks]

The Indian Troops commit atrocities a Million times worse which dont get captured on Camera, which is exactly the reason behind reaction in the above videos.

 

[JaDed]

Note:The video is not from HT but the part in HT is also there in above video.

 

[90MPH]

They deserve it for all the crimes they have committed

If anything they got soft treatment compared to what they dish out on a daily basis.

 

[hafeezrocks]

What the video also shows is that how much the common Kashmiris despise the Indian Army.

 

[JaDed]

BJP is as useless as Congress was [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] is this is what the Army was ordered to endure.

 

[troodon]

What the video also shows is that how much the common Kashmiris despise the Indian Army.

What it shows is the daily occurrence in Kashmir. The innocent common Kashmiri man minding his own business while the Army goes, picks a few men and guns them down (Genocide).



Seen videos where idiots were attacking tanks and tried to grab the guns of Army men. These people are pretty decent I must agree. They did not try to kill the army men.

 

[troodon]

BJP is as useless as Congress was [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] is this is what the Army was ordered to endure.

Army was probably ordered not to retaliate at any cost by the Govt. Hoping that it will quell the stone pelters and rioters.

Agreed. So much for Modi and his harsh stand on separatists.

Which Army of any naiton would let a common Joe go and punch the Army man in uniform doing his duty?

 

[Syed1]

Nothing compared to what the angelic Indian Army does to the Kashmiris.


Well done lads, keep it up

 

[Yatoo]

 

[czar]

Modi has betrayed the voters with the soft approach towards Kashmir.

Before the elections, he had promised to rule Kashmir with an Iron Fist.

 

[troodon]

Modi has betrayed the voters with the soft approach towards Kashmir.

They are only good at teaching a lesson to Beef eaters in the rest of the country. When the real issue comes, they seem to be softer than Congress.

 

[Syed1]

They are only good at teaching a lesson to Beef eaters in the rest of the country. When the real issue comes, they seem to be softer than Congress.

You Indians will never learn.


Using brute force will only compound the problem. There is no separatist movement that has been quelled by brute force.

 

[troodon]

You Indians will never learn.


Using brute force will only compound the problem. There is no separatist movement that has been quelled by brute force.

I am not a proponent of war, but you simply cannot hit Armymen in uniform doing their duty. You have to be extremely lucky to get out on a limb if you do that. What would Pak army do in such situations?

Now back to the point of force never solved separatist movement, look no further than to our neighbors Srilanka. They demolished LTTE and look at the situation now. So brute force did work there and worked beautifully. But for that the Govt needs to show some spine.

 

[Saeed]

I am sure both sides can post a lot of pictures and videos. India would like to sweep the whole issue under carpet but can't because of social media. International media needs to cover this more.

 

[boomboomcheema]

Truly deserved by the Indian Army

 

[hafeezrocks]

This is a real eye opener.

 

[Azzurri]

Bhaggat singh was a terrorist

 

[Madplayer]

1) Blind patriots would not see why these troops are being treated like this. 8 people were killed the same day by supa powa well trained to deal with any situation army who should lots of restraint there as well. The people dishing out such treatment are the ones whose brothers, fathers, friends have been killed over the years by the same army. If anything they have been too soft as the man shooting in the camera is clearly shouting in Kashmiri language that no one should put a hand on any of the army men. Just shout the slogans. But indian pathetic media will only translate the abuses which are nothing but emotional outbursts.

2) why are these young guys doing this? Armymen are carrying weapons. So why would these guys do such things? Do they not know that they can be killed? Armymen have killed thousands of their like. Why are they walking down the path which can ruin their lives? What has happened that they dont even care now? Clearly goes against the indian narrative that kashmiris are indians.

3) The armymen were said to be guarding EVMs. Thats the reason they were showing restraint. Because they couldnt afford to lose the polling results. Otherwise they would have shown their ugly faces.

The word "restraint" is abused by indians so much. Even if there was absolutely no reason for kashmiris to do this, it still wouldnt warrant an indian army man to shoot an unarmed person. If indians think that their army is great because they didnt shoot an unarmed person taunting them, i gotta say thats pretty low standard as far as "restraint" is concerned. Dont care about questions of what Pakistani armymen would have done, not concerned with that.

 

[Madplayer]

This is the real deal. Have a look at this everyone.

 

[Hornbill]

BJP is as useless as Congress was [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] is this is what the Army was ordered to endure.

These kids will be arrested during night raids by their own Kashmiri brothers (Police) and no need to mention the punishment they are going to get under custody.

 

[troodon]

To think all of this started was over the killing of a known terrorist Wani whose organization is based in Pakistan.

 

[bleaf27]

Well quite simple, Anyone who tries to put a hand on the forces should be dealt with extreme response.
Makes me sad because of the politics, the poor army has to endure this.
In US - questioning why you were pulled over could get you shot by an officer ....
In India - a soldier has to keep calm despite all this.

 

[bleaf27]

Bhaggat singh was a terrorist

For the British. If there was no Bhagat Singh , you think Pakistan would have been created ?

 

[cricketjoshila]

BJP is as useless as Congress was [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] is this is what the Army was ordered to endure.

Disappointed by BJP in this regard.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The jawans were on election duty and hence tolerated this nonsense as they had orders not to retaliate.

 

[Poutine]

For the British. If there was no Bhagat Singh , you think Pakistan would have been created ?

Yup he was a freedom fighter for Pakistan/India while a terrorist for the British. Don't you find the situation in Kashmir very similar to how it was in India before 1947?

 

[Third_Umpire]

Sorry, no sympathy for the genocidal army if they have to face mild heckling at the hands of people who's families they have likely killed, raped and torn apart.

 

[90MPH]

I want my 3 minutes back.

This video is total nonsense to cause fake outrage and fake news. These troops were hardly hurt.

#Fake outrage.

 

[waqar goraya]

1) Blind patriots would not see why these troops are being treated like this. 8 people were killed the same day by supa powa well trained to deal with any situation army who should lots of restraint there as well. The people dishing out such treatment are the ones whose brothers, fathers, friends have been killed over the years by the same army. If anything they have been too soft as the man shooting in the camera is clearly shouting in Kashmiri language that no one should put a hand on any of the army men. Just shout the slogans. But indian pathetic media will only translate the abuses which are nothing but emotional outbursts.

2) why are these young guys doing this? Armymen are carrying weapons. So why would these guys do such things? Do they not know that they can be killed? Armymen have killed thousands of their like. Why are they walking down the path which can ruin their lives? What has happened that they dont even care now? Clearly goes against the indian narrative that kashmiris are indians.

3) The armymen were said to be guarding EVMs. Thats the reason they were showing restraint. Because they couldnt afford to lose the polling results. Otherwise they would have shown their ugly faces.

The word "restraint" is abused by indians so much. Even if there was absolutely no reason for kashmiris to do this, it still wouldnt warrant an indian army man to shoot an unarmed person. If indians think that their army is great because they didnt shoot an unarmed person taunting them, i gotta say thats pretty low standard as far as "restraint" is concerned. Dont care about questions of what Pakistani armymen would have done, not concerned with that.

Very well said.

As the former CM said recently that Indians should come down from their high horses.

Just imagine the hate they have for India and their occupying forces, they knew that they had guns in their hands but still some of them tried to hit those soldiers with their empty hands or feet. In spite their compatriots (Kashmiris) asking for restraint.

And some stupid Indians are drawing wrong conclusions here of being soft on the mob. If they were soft 8 people would have not died the same day.

It is the least they should expect from these youth because many of them have lost their family members at the hands of this occupying force. These chest-thumping posters here should have some shame for the atrocities they have committed against these people.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Very well said.

As the former CM said recently that Indians should come down from their high horses.

Just imagine the hate they have for India and their occupying forces, they knew that they had guns in their hands but still some of them tried to hit those soldiers with their empty hands or feet. In spite their compatriots (Kashmiris) asking for restraint.

And some stupid Indians are drawing wrong conclusions here of being soft on the mob. If they were soft 8 people would have not died the same day.

It is the least they should expect from these youth because many of them have lost their family members at the hands of this occupying force. These chest-thumping posters here should have some shame for the atrocities they have committed against these people.

People supporting the terrorists in Kashmir who killed innocent Pandits and are spreading terrorism should be ashamed.

 

[waqar goraya]

People supporting the terrorists in Kashmir who killed innocent Pandits and are spreading terrorism should be ashamed.

Don't you think that those people who might have harmed pundits must be too old to still carry out the so called terrorism?

But the truth is that if they were terrorists instead of courageous protesters hundreds would have not lost their eyesight.
I would call those people terrorists who have bullets and not those who are at maximum armed with stones.

And few of them who indeed have weapons are their freedom fighters.

 

[bleaf27]

Yup he was a freedom fighter for Pakistan/India while a terrorist for the British. Don't you find the situation in Kashmir very similar to how it was in India before 1947?

No because India has never excluded Kashmir from it's nation nor has given it any double standards treatment. Are there problems there ? Definitely. But problems there are definitely being 10 times worse through cross border terrorism. For example, when there were communal tensions in Kashmir - Kashmiri pundits were being massacred, they chose to leave for their betterment and to let peace prevail. If certain Kashmiri's are not happy - What is stone pelting going to achieve ?
Secondly, What would they wish for ? - To Be with Pakistan or be Independent ? If any Indian citizen (which the Kashmiri's are) want to immigrate to another country because they aren't happy they are free to do so. Which Kashmiri has been kept in India against their wishes.
For example - If someone in India isn't happy let's say Bihar / Mumbai / Kerela etc. and want to have a better future whatever the case - do they start pelting stones at the govt and want demanding seperate country or move away if they aren't happy. If someone in Karachi/ Lahore isn't happy and wants out of Pakistan - would you ask them to move away or ask them to start demanding a seperate Nation ? What next ? Somone in Islamabad isn't happy or Someone in Delhi isn't happy , they start asking for a seperate nation ?
In terms of Muslim population - India has a bigger muslim population than Pakistan thus in that sense they have a stronger connection on India on purely religious number. States like UP and Delhi have significant Muslim population.

 

[bleaf27]

I would want Jawans full discretion to how they carry out activities. No stupid games to play with these idiots. You touch a Jawan - you must be put down - Whether it's Kashmir or Delhi. I'd love to see these idiots try this with the American system. Would have been shot before their hand could throw the stone

 

[waqar goraya]

Jawan )

Don't some Indians detest this Persian word?

 

[Runner Up]

Humiliating stuff for India and Indian Army. They deserve it though.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

When you act far too heavy-handedly on a disillusioned population resulting in scores of innocent casualties, fear and a siege mentality developing what do you expect to happen.

If anything is to change the army needs to be the ones starting it by behaving in a fair manner

 

[JaDed]

I have accepted myself to be a blind patriot I find it easier to give in than not to and be disappointed as an end result.

 

[PakLFC]

What the Indian military does is much worse. I have no sympathy for the oppressive Indian army. They are murderers not fighters.

 

[Specialisttailender]

I am not a proponent of war, but you simply cannot hit Armymen in uniform doing their duty. You have to be extremely lucky to get out on a limb if you do that. What would Pak army do in such situations?

Now back to the point of force never solved separatist movement, look no further than to our neighbors Srilanka. They demolished LTTE and look at the situation now. So brute force did work there and worked beautifully. But for that the Govt needs to show some spine.

In Sri Lanka is accused of genocide and UN is still on to them regarding war crimes. Tamils in Sri Lanka has no voice, even Tamil Nadu politicians had no spine and people of my state are very stupid and just as spineless so we couldn't do anything to save our brothers and sisters. I'm ashamed till this moment. India can't do the same thing in Kashmir as Muslim population outside Kashmir has a voice. Sri Lanka is an Island, they banned all the media and only allowed state sponsored media before their war crimes. Kashmir's population is much higher than the population of Tamils in Sri Lanka and 25% of the population hadn't migrated like in Sri lanka. Good luck trying to start a civil war. And do you really wan't to take disgusting routes to solve political issues ? Then what is the difference between you and a terrorist ? We produce educated people but most till behave like border line savages. People like you make me sick, you are the reason for the spread of stupidity in my country. You are only going to turn those rocks being thrown at our soldiers into grenades.

 

[Specialisttailender]

People supporting the terrorists in Kashmir who killed innocent Pandits and are spreading terrorism should be ashamed.

So should be the people who think their soldier deserved to die just because he got caught in the hands of the enemy.

 

[Waseem]

Instead of blaming majority of Kashmiris to be terrorists or jihadis, Indians must think about the reason why people living under Indian rule would actually attack Indian soldiers? Remember this is not some trained militants launching attacks, these are average citizens, students who attack Indian soldiers in reaction to Indian atrocities killing innocent people, using extreme force, pellet guns etc.

More you label them as terrorists, more they will speak against you. Indians have been using Pakistani hatred to keep unity and nationalism alive in India but this is surely not helping them in Kashmir.

 

[Yatoo]

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/852754179181256704/pu/vid/320x180/-E4uergzOEs0gYKC.mp4

 

[Kaptan]

What are kids doing there ? I can clearly see some 12-14 year kids.
What if the Army retaliated and in the process kids got hurt ? Whose responsibility will it be ?
Or the extremist are using kids as a shield ?

 

[Madplayer]

What are kids doing there ? I can clearly see some 12-14 year kids.
What if the Army retaliated and in the process kids got hurt ? Whose responsibility will it be ?
Or the extremist are using kids as a shield ?

So you agree that indian army can retaliate by shooting at unarmed civilians who are just taunting them and arent performing any life threatening actions towards them?

 

[Madplayer]

When you act far too heavy-handedly on a disillusioned population resulting in scores of innocent casualties, fear and a siege mentality developing what do you expect to happen.

If anything is to change the army needs to be the ones starting it by behaving in a fair manner

The Indian army needs to get out of kashmir to begin with. They arent wanted by the people. They are just used as pawns by indian colonial regime to maintain a stronghold on kashmir. Indian government doesnt give two hoots if an armyman is killed.

Most of These Indian armymen are poor people who just join the army to feed their families. I have had numerous conversations with them and lots of them dont even care whether Kashmir stays with India or not. They are fed up of constantly being in the face of threat. They should be taken out of kashmir and posted in areas where people want them. Unfortunately such a place doesnt exist in India because not even indians will like to live side by side hundreds of thousands of armymen. It is just in the nature of army that they show heavy handedness and After a while even indians will get tired of their bs. Thats why armymen have to be keep away from civilian population and matters concerning civilian population should be handled by police.

 

[Kaptan]

So you agree that indian army can retaliate by shooting at unarmed civilians who are just taunting them and arent performing any life threatening actions towards them?

Lathi charge by J&K police will be more than enough for these lowlives extremists.
Guns should be used only against terrorists like Burhan Wani.

 

[JaDed]

I know there is a religious bias in these movements but now that i wake up and see other posts and read other stories I still hate what the Army is doing in Kashmir its unfair,glad I'm not the one making defense decisions would had taken the country to the ground.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So should be the people who think their soldier deserved to die just because he got caught in the hands of the enemy.

Soldier captured by enemy is in their hands and they will do what they want.India can only retaliate and we will.I hope the govt has realised that releasing 90k Pakistani POWs was not the right decision and shouldnot have been done.

 

[Madplayer]

Lathi charge by J&K police will be more than enough for these lowlives extremists.
Guns should be used only against terrorists like Burhan Wani.

Okay. Why the outrage then? your army men should always stand there and enjoy all the slaps and wait for Kashmir police to arrive after all they always hide behind JKP when any operation takes place.

 

[Madplayer]

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Amazing how indians are ignorinh these posts. Selective vision i guess.

 

[R0H1T]

Amazing how indians are ignorinh these posts. Selective vision i guess.

That's a 17s video, how do you expect anyone to have an informed opinion on a 480p (or less) @30 fps video shot vertically? Do you remember the Steve Smith footage mocking Kohli's injury, this isn't much different.

As for moral outrage, I wholeheartedly condemn such innocent (yet to be established btw) civilians to be used as a human shield, there you go.

 

[R0H1T]

Sorry wrong video but the point (i.e. we really don't know what happened before or after the footage) still stands, though at least one officer was trying to save the guy unless you want to dispute even that part.

 

[Madplayer]

That's a 17s video, how do you expect anyone to have an informed opinion on a 480p (or less) @30 fps video shot vertically? Do you remember the Steve Smith footage mocking Kohli's injury, this isn't much different.

As for moral outrage, I wholeheartedly condemn such innocent (yet to be established btw) civilians to be used as a human shield, there you go.

Thank you for condemning this wholeheartedly. I agree that if he wasnt innocent he should have been used as human shield and later killed and burried in some unmarked grave. Now that you have shown how you believe in justice, you can continue loathing kashmiris for being anti-national.

 

[Madplayer]

Sorry wrong video but the point (i.e. we really don't know what happened before or after the footage) still stands, though at least one officer was trying to save the guy unless you want to dispute even that part.

How good of him! What a saint! Model armyman.

 

[R0H1T]

Thank you for condemning this wholeheartedly. I agree that if he wasnt innocent he should have been used as human shield and later killed and burried in some unmarked grave. Now that you have shown how you believe in justice, you can continue loathing kashmiris for being anti-national.

I don't loathe some Kashmiris for being anti national, the politicians are much much anti anything India than an average citizen can ever be, however violence cannot be justified, by any side. The Kashmir valley always seems to be in a state of perpetual curfew or lockdown, I've personally experienced such events & it's such a volatile situation that needs potential flashpoints to be diffused.

I'm sure many in Indo/Pak know what happens during a curfew, that part of J&K being turned off from leading a normal life is bad for everyone. But again, I'll stress that in such situations any sort of a violence is counter productive, be it from the violent mob or the security forces & you just have to look at Malda to know what rioters can do. The police & army are humans after all, the slap is forgivable but threatening their lives isn't any more justified than taking the lives of miscreants.

 

[Kaptan]

Amazing how indians are ignorinh these posts. Selective vision i guess.

Looks like an Extremist getting beaten black and blue.
What do you see ? Freedom Fighter begin used as a human shield ?

 

[Madplayer]

I don't loathe some Kashmiris for being anti national, the politicians are much much anti anything India than an average citizen can ever be, however violence cannot be justified, by any side. The Kashmir valley always seems to be in a state of perpetual curfew or lockdown, I've personally experienced such events & it's such a volatile situation that needs potential flashpoints to be diffused.

I'm sure many in Indo/Pak know what happens during a curfew, that part of J&K being turned off from leading a normal life is bad for everyone. But again, I'll stress that in such situations any sort of a violence is counter productive, be it from the violent mob or the security forces & you just have to look at Malda to know what rioters can do. The police & army are humans after all, the slap is forgivable but threatening their lives isn't any more justified than taking the lives of miscreants.

Rioters, mobs, etc etc words used to circumvent the real issue. I see no riots here, i dont see civilians killing each other based on ideological differences. You have jumped on the fifth step without stepping on first 4. Why is there 9:1 civilian to army ration in kashmir? Why is the army being used to maintain a stronghold and why Isnt India working for a political solution which was promised by them? There is no stone pelting where there are no armymen.

If u know the general ground situation in Kashmir, it begins with people gathering together and shouting slogans and army men arriving to disperse the crowds , sometimes quite small crowds, who are doing absolutely nothing except shouting some slogans. The level of mismanagement on part of security forces makes u think whether they will ever learn.

People are losing their family members regularly because of arrogance of a military power. Do this to any population over decades, they will lose fear of death and seek revenge. Still the kashmiri civilians dont go all out against the army men because we are traditionally peace loving people. If u remember, kashmiri people even saved the army men whose vehicle fell in a gorge this year. Unfortunately even this good act of kashmiris was used for politics by indian media by saying that kashmiris love indian army when it was just an act of humanity.

 

[Madplayer]

Looks like an Extremist getting beaten black and blue.
What do you see ? Freedom Fighter begin used as a human shield ?

I see a hoard of arrogant cowards who wet their pants against a half decent opponent beating up an unarmed kid.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I see a hoard of arrogant cowards who wet their pants against a half decent opponent beating up an unarmed kid.

Tell that to the terrorists who met their maker courtesy the Indian Army.Or to the army that met defeat at the hands of the Indian Army.

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[Mian]

I see a hoard of arrogant cowards who wet their pants against a half decent opponent beating up an unarmed kid.

Brother please use vpn and other proxies services because i remember in past there was an operation launched by coward indian govt against kashmiris for raising voice on Internet. I fear for your and other kashmiri posters security so always be careful they can cross any limits and you and other posters can go missing just for demanding your rights.

 

[Madplayer]

Tell that to the terrorists who met their maker courtesy the Indian Army.Or to the army that met defeat at the hands of the Indian Army.

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Which terrorists? The 12 year old kids shot in the streets or those couple of militants holed up in a building and surrounded by entire battalions of mighty Indian army? or are you talking about about the terrorist women of north east who are raped by indian army? Or the terrorist sikhs whose temples are vandalized by Indian army? Please clarify who you are referring to.

 

[Madplayer]

Brother please use vpn and other proxies services because i remember in past there was an operation launched by coward indian govt against kashmiris for raising voice on Internet. I fear for your and other kashmiri posters security so always be careful they can cross any limits and you and other posters can go missing just for demanding your rights.

Dont even care anymore. Thanks for the concern though.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Which terrorists? The 12 year old kids shot in the streets or those couple of militants holed up in a building and surrounded by entire battalions of mighty Indian army? or are you talking about about the terrorist women of north east who are raped by indian army? Or the terrorist sikhs whose temples are vandalized by Indian army? Please clarify who you are referring to.

The terrorists and their supporters who killed the Kashmiri Pandits.The terrorists who thought they could wage a war in J and K and take it from India,The same terrorists who are members and supporters of LeT JeM HuM and so on and so forth. Terrorists will be dealt as terrorists should be dealt with.

 

[Madplayer]

The terrorists and their supporters who killed the Kashmiri Pandits.The terrorists who thought they could wage a war in J and K and take it from India,The same terrorists who are members and supporters of LeT JeM HuM and so on and so forth. Terrorists will be dealt as terrorists should be dealt with.

Listen now and listen carefully, nobody wants to "take kashmir away from India" because kashmir doesnt belong to India in the first place. people just want what is their's. Kashmir never merged with the union of India. If u think its an integral part of bharat, provide us with any proof or any document or any link showcasing Kashmir's merger with union of India like all the other 28 states of India. you cant, i challenge you to. And You really want to go down the pandit road? I assure you Your arguments will be demolished. You know absolutely nothing about it apart from what has been fed to you. Its a very convenient story which you have been programmed to parrot. If terrorists were dealt with like they should be, many Indian army generals and indian politicians would have been hanged for state sponsered hindu jihadic terrorism in Kashmir.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Listen now and listen carefully, nobody wants to "take kashmir away from India" because kashmir doesnt belong to India in the first place. people just want what is their's. Kashmir never merged with the union of India. If u think its an integral part of bharat, provide us with any proof or any document or any link showcasing Kashmir's merger with union of India like all the other 28 states of India. you cant, i challenge you to. And You really want to go down the pandit road? I assure you Your arguments will be demolished. You know absolutely nothing about it apart from what has been fed to you. Its a very convenient story which you have been programmed to parrot. If terrorists were dealt with like they should be, many Indian army generals and indian politicians would have been hanged for state sponsered hindu jihadic terrorism in Kashmir.

May be Hari Singh never signed the instrument of accession to India.May be he doesnt matter because like the pandits he is a hindu.

Why should Indian Army Generals be hanged?For killing terrorists?There is a reason no country apart from Pakistanis takes this so called freedom struggle seriously.Because it isnt one.Its terrorism and ethnic cleansing of minorities.It will not be allowed to succeed EVER.

J and K is a part of India and will remain so.But if Kashmiris want internal autonomy i for one have no issues with that.But any attempt to cede or indulging in terrorism or killing minorities will be dealt as they are around the world.

 

[Madplayer]

May be Hari Singh never signed the instrument of accession to India.May be he doesnt matter because like the pandits he is a hindu.

1) instrument of acession isnt merger with union of india. Stop dodging my question. If you give value to Instrument of acession then u are clearly contradicting your claims of kashmir to be integral part of india because according to that so called instrument of acession, india is a care taker state for kashmir and can meddle only in affairs of defence, communications and external affairs in kashmir up until a plebescite takes place. Even the residual powers are vested in kashmir which is unlile any other state in India. So if u accept the acession document, then you are basically accepting that Kashmir isnt an integral part of india.

2) there are doubts regarding the presence of maharaja in srinagar when india claims he signed the instrument.

3) it is well known that patiala regiment of indian army was present in kashmir even before the instrument was signed which casts doubts on the validity of the document because of presence of external army which could have pressurised the ruler.

4) if the ruler's signature is so important, why isnt hyderabad a part of Pakistan?

Why should Indian Army Generals be hanged?For killing terrorists?There is a reason no country apart from Pakistanis takes this so called freedom struggle seriously.

indian army generals have officially killed 50k kashmiris and unofficially 2 lakh. indian army is involved in rapes like kunan and poshpora villages. Indian army shouldnt even be present in Kashmir let alone in the civilian-army ratio of 9:1 which makes kashmir the most militarized place on earth.

Its terrorism and ethnic cleansing of minorities.It will not be allowed to succeed EVER.

Stop these snides. come out clear with what you are referring to and i'll show you what's up.

J and K is a part of India and will remain so.But if Kashmiris want internal autonomy i for one have no issues with that.But any attempt to cede or indulging in terrorism or killing minorities will be dealt as they are around the world.

It is as much a part of india as India was of Britain. Killing minorities is what Indians do, be it in name of beef , ram mandir or conversion by pastors in remote villages. Dont teach the most tolerant people of south east asia what tolerance is.

 

[Brilliance]

To the Indian posters who use killing of Pandits as a tool to label Kashmiris as terrorists and justify the genocide of Kashmiris at the hands of Indian colonial forces :

The killings and exodus of Pandits was planned by the then appointed Governor of JK Jagmohan to justify the mass killings of Kashmiris that would take place after that and was used to portray before the world that Kashmiris deserve this treatment and prevent the outrage.

If the Pandits were killed by the common people why didn't all Pandits leave the Kashmir ? As many Pandits are still living with Kashmiri Muslims and in complete harmony. And they have never reported of any wrongdoing after that day.

So instead of labelling Kashmiris as terrorists and justifying the genocide by Indian forces you should be ashamed of what your forces have done and are doing in Kashmir and as human beings condemn these acts.

Regards!

 

[kabbirann]

India needs to do to Kashmir what China does to Tibet.
Zero expectations though from lalu Modi.

 

[90MPH]

Kashmir is already the most militarised region in the whole world. What more do you want Modi to do ?? To send more troops and give them machine guns ?

There is a reason why nearly the whole Kashmir population dispes India and it's not too hard to figure it out.

I don't get the fake outrage. Troops get shoved and it becomes an issue of national pride but when children get blinded and gunned down not even a peep.