Kishan Bharvad murder for social media post against Islam

[the Great Khan]

I think this thread epitomises the deep problems within Indian society. The extreme inequality produced by its economic policies will cause a further fracture within its already fragile make up. The effects may not fully manifest overnight but will be felt in the coming years as poverty and inequality grow.

A growing population requires jobs and better facilities. At the moment blaming Muslims is beneficial but at some point reality will bite. Communal violence is endemic within India and has been for decades. Separatist movements could increase and political activism could also cause instability.

 

[Local.Dada]

It's true to some extent.

As Indian subcontinent was attacked by invaders consistently from north west, weakest Hindus converted to other religions.

Those who were relatively stronger or were farther from attacks remained Hindus.

In addition to that religion was also brought in other parts through different routes and force/influence changed Hindus.

Later British ruled them and most of them were either Hindus or Hindus who converted to different religions.

That’s not the point I was making. British and other European powers pretty much ruled the entire world including Africa, America and Asia. I was just surprised by how a “British” man was wondering how come a handful of British ruled only over Hindus.

 

[Local.Dada]

I think this thread epitomises the deep problems within Indian society. The extreme inequality produced by its economic policies will cause a further fracture within its already fragile make up. The effects may not fully manifest overnight but will be felt in the coming years as poverty and inequality grow.

A growing population requires jobs and better facilities. At the moment blaming Muslims is beneficial but at some point reality will bite. Communal violence is endemic within India and has been for decades. Separatist movements could increase and political activism could also cause instability.

Diversity and inequality is not a new phenomenon in India. It has existed since ages.

Your post seems to stem from wishful thinking than any concrete analysis.

What binds the people of India is the common culture. The culture extends to the entire subcontinent. Do you think Srilankans and Pakistanis watch Indian movies or Hong Kong and Mandarin cinema even if their government cozies up to China?

It’s that culture that kind of brings the commonality.

Any diverse culture will have those issues. You think there is no discrimination or racism in USA? The fact is there are still some values and ethics in the constitution which is what appeals to the minorities.

Now coming to separatist moments, since 1947, Pakistan split into 2. Srilanka almost split into 2 due to the Tamil separatism moment. India is doing fine. Yes there are problems but compared to the neighbors, I think we are in a better position of strength.

 

[LaLoco]

Diversity and inequality is not a new phenomenon in India. It has existed since ages.

Your post seems to stem from wishful thinking than any concrete analysis.

What binds the people of India is the common culture. The culture extends to the entire subcontinent. Do you think Srilankans and Pakistanis watch Indian movies or Hong Kong and Mandarin cinema even if their government cozies up to China?

It’s that culture that kind of brings the commonality.

Any diverse culture will have those issues. You think there is no discrimination or racism in USA? The fact is there are still some values and ethics in the constitution which is what appeals to the minorities.

Now coming to separatist moments, since 1947, Pakistan split into 2. Srilanka almost split into 2 due to the Tamil separatism moment. India is doing fine. Yes there are problems but compared to the neighbors, I think we are in a better position of strength.

India split in 3 - lol - why do ya all make it so easy?

 

[Local.Dada]

India split in 3 - lol - why do ya all make it so easy?

Can you explain the math? I said Since 1947.

In my home state we call this kind of reaction

“Dehleez pe thook dena”. The English translation will sound a lot more cruder but appreciation for urdu for making that term sound beautiful lol.

 

[LaLoco]

Can you explain the math? I said Since 1947.

In my home state we call this kind of reaction

“Dehleez pe thook dena”. The English translation will sound a lot more cruder but appreciation for urdu for making that term sound beautiful lol.

Yea, in 1947 India was split in 2 then 3 in 1971 and the way things are going who knows what future might look like.

I do not think the ilk of you could ever manage to insult me, it is just, y'all are very dangerous to the sub-continent peace and that is the only reason y'all get engaged to highlight this fact.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yea, in 1947 India was split in 2 then 3 in 1971 and the way things are going who knows what future might look like.

I do not think the ilk of you could ever manage to insult me, it is just, y'all are very dangerous to the sub-continent peace and that is the only reason y'all get engaged to highlight this fact.

In 1947 British India was split into 2 by the British parliament.

In 1971 Islamic Republic of Pakistan was split into two by The Republic of India.

There is a bit of difference that you missed out.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Diversity and inequality is not a new phenomenon in India. It has existed since ages.

Your post seems to stem from wishful thinking than any concrete analysis.

What binds the people of India is the common culture. The culture extends to the entire subcontinent. Do you think Srilankans and Pakistanis watch Indian movies or Hong Kong and Mandarin cinema even if their government cozies up to China?

It’s that culture that kind of brings the commonality.

Any diverse culture will have those issues. You think there is no discrimination or racism in USA? The fact is there are still some values and ethics in the constitution which is what appeals to the minorities.

Now coming to separatist moments, since 1947, Pakistan split into 2. Srilanka almost split into 2 due to the Tamil separatism moment. India is doing fine. Yes there are problems but compared to the neighbors, I think we are in a better position of strength.

Indian culture has also been diluted down the centuries, and in the modern era it will be diluted even further with adoption of English language. Why else do you think we are carrying this conversation out in English rather than Hindi?

One of the reasons why India is supported by the western countries is exactly this, with our influence, that opens up India as a huge market where we can sell fashion, literature, films, sports, music....the list is endless.

You know it as well of course, that is why you yourself vote for hindutva govts, because you fear without it, your culture will be swept away as the people of India buy in to what we are selling.

 

[Local.Dada]

One of the reasons why India is supported by the western countries is exactly this, with our influence, that opens up India as a huge market where we can sell fashion, literature, films, sports, music....the list is endless.

You know it as well of course, that is why you yourself vote for hindutva govts, because you fear without it, your culture will be swept away as the people of India buy in to what we are selling.

That’s not at all embarrassing. Good to know you atleast acknowledge the purchasing power of the Indian market.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

That’s not at all embarrassing. Good to know you atleast acknowledge the purchasing power of the Indian market.

It wasn't meant to be embarrassing, strange that was the term that came to your mind when I didn't use it.

 

[LaLoco]

In 1947 British India was split into 2 by the British parliament.

In 1971 Islamic Republic of Pakistan was split into two by The Republic of India.
Because Muslim demanded
There is a bit of difference that you missed out.

Was imminent course of event as the enemy of Pakistan was in the center of the East and West.

Due to Indian Muslims or Indian Mughals, the eventual result was to split in 3 separate territories which resulted in 3 different countries.


The way Hindutva is acting up who knows what the future of India might look like, we will be watching

 

[Lego20]

Because Muslim demanded

And with voluntary cooperation of 90000 Pakistan soldiers, also muslim (dont know why we talk religions when discussing countries!).

 

[cricketjoshila]

Due to Indian Muslims or Indian Mughals, the eventual result was to split in 3 separate territories which resulted in 3 different countries.


The way Hindutva is acting up who knows what the future of India might look like, we will be watching

British Parliament divided British India into two. Hindus Muslims Sikhs were all colonial slaves. Thats the hard truth.

Pakistan had the advantage of putting India into a pincer move. East Pakistan gdp was higher than west and population was bigger too. So whats the reason that the PA surrendered there?

Why this propoganda that the army from west needed to go to east to defend.

Pakistan had the geographical advantage of dividing the Indian forces into two directions.

Worry about the future of pakistan, not India.

 

[LaLoco]

And with voluntary cooperation of 90000 Pakistan soldiers, also muslim (dont know why we talk religions when discussing countries!).

inflated figure, quick search will show that unless it is Indian source.

Religion is the core issue of social justice in India, for BJP/RSS, you and your fellow Modi supporter religious angle is needed to bring back the glory of India that was lost due to Indian born Mughal rule and that required, matter of fact, absolute need of BJP government to marginalize and dehumanize minorities -case in point, this thread

British Parliament divided British India into two. Hindus Muslims Sikhs were all colonial slaves. Thats the hard truth.

Pakistan had the advantage of putting India into a pincer move. East Pakistan gdp was higher than west and population was bigger too. So whats the reason that the PA surrendered there?

Why this propoganda that the army from west needed to go to east to defend.

Pakistan had the geographical advantage of dividing the Indian forces into two directions.

Worry about the future of pakistan, not India.

I am not worried about India's future, most of us are just watching it, and highlighting the obvious we see as spectator from outside of India - if you do not like for us to acknowledge as we see it then you must change something about your country, lets say, an obvious answer would be less radicalism of the majority population against minority.

of course the Great Britain divided India after what the Muslims of India demanded for it.

Now, lets not diverge this thread further, you started this thread to show how evil and awful the minority of India is and they must be first marginalized and dehumanized so violence against them can be justified

 

[gani999]

inflated figure, quick search will show that unless it is Indian source.

Here you go.

Pakistani army surrenders at Dhaka and its army of more than 90,000 become Indian prisoners of war

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32349922

Religion is the core issue of social justice in India, for BJP/RSS, you and your fellow Modi supporter religious angle is needed to bring back the glory of India that was lost due to Indian born Mughal rule and that required, matter of fact, absolute need of BJP government to marginalize and dehumanize minorities -case in point, this thread

You Pakistanis are yet to accept that despite all claims of 'muslim brother hood', your country fell apart within 30 years of formation. Worse, muslims are still unsafe in what remains.

https://themuslimvibe.com/muslim-cu...illed-since-1963-according-to-new-documentary

I feel your pain.

And by the way, don't worry about the muslims of India. They are more in number than those in Pakistan, and are still wiping their a**es with the Two Nation theory, or whatever it is called.

 

[LaLoco]

Here you go.

Pakistani army surrenders at Dhaka and its army of more than 90,000 become Indian prisoners of war

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32349922


You Pakistanis are yet to accept that despite all claims of 'muslim brother hood', your country fell apart within 30 years of formation. Worse, muslims are still unsafe in what remains.

https://themuslimvibe.com/muslim-cu...illed-since-1963-according-to-new-documentary

I feel your pain.

And by the way, don't worry about the muslims of India. They are more in number than those in Pakistan, and are still wiping their a**es with the Two Nation theory, or whatever it is called.

LOL - I must've hit the nerve hard.

Again, not worried at all about the Muslims of India, they laid their bed and they have to sleep on it.

I am just a mere spectator, highlighting as we see daily in various news media from all across the globe, if you have issue with that then ask your government to be less extremist


Enjoy reading the link

https://www.dawn.com/news/773291/pakistani-pows-correct-figure

I won't be replying to response that need to discuss the number of soldiers, that discussion is arbitrary and mostly used by Indians to thump their chest, has no relevance in 2022, it also take away attention from the OP of this thread, which was meant to highlight by Indians (BJP-Modi), how evil minorities of India is and they must be marginalized, so subjugation of the minority can be justified through violence and discriminatory laws.

 

[gani999]

LOL - I must've hit the nerve hard.

Again, not worried at all about the Muslims of India, they laid their bed and they have to sleep on it.

I am just a mere spectator, highlighting as we see daily in various news media from all across the globe, if you have issue with that then ask your government to be less extremist

You asked for a non-Indian source for the 90,000 Pakistan Pows and I gave you one. It's obvious whose nerve got hit.

Enjoy reading the link

https://www.dawn.com/news/773291/pakistani-pows-correct-figure

I won't be replying to response that need to discuss the number of soldiers, that discussion is arbitrary and mostly used by Indians to thump their chest, has no relevance in 2022, it also take away attention from the OP of this thread, which was meant to highlight by Indians (BJP-Modi), how evil minorities of India is and they must be marginalized, so subjugation of the minority can be justified through violence and discriminatory laws.

Yes, a Pakistani source featuring an interview with a retired Pak officer. How predictably unbiased!
How about you provide me with an independent source for that, eh?

 

[cricketjoshila]

You asked for a non-Indian source for the 90,000 Pakistan Pows and I gave you one. It's obvious whose nerve got hit.



Yes, a Pakistani source featuring an interview with a retired Pak officer. How predictably unbiased!
How about you provide me with an independent source for that, eh?

You give him a bbc link, he replies with dawn. Comedy!!!

 

[kumjsr]

2020


Lord Ram idol vandalised in Andhra Pradesh's Ramatheertham
Read more at: https://www.deccanherald.com/nation...-in-andhra-pradeshs-ramatheertham-933391.html

The desecration of Lord Ram idol at the famous Ramatheertham in Vizianagaram district came as yet another shocker for the people in Andhra Pradesh, witnessing a series of spiteful incidents at temples for the past one year.

On Tuesday morning, priests found the doors of the ancient Sita Lakshmana Kodandarama temple on the Bodikonda hillock in Ramatheertham broke open and the Ram idol in the sanctum sanctorum sans the head.

 

[kumjsr]

After Lord Rama, Another Deity's Idol Desecrated In Andhra Pradesh; 2nd Incident In A Week


https://www.republicworld.com/india...in-andhra-pradesh-2nd-incident-in-a-week.html

In the second incident of vandalism of Hindu temples and deity idols in Andhra Pradesh, Lord Subrahmanya Swamy's idol in Lord Vigneshwara temple of Rajahmundry district has been found in a desecrated condition on Friday. A case has been registered and the police is investigating the matter to nab the perpetrators. According to sources, the vandalism seems to have taken place on the intervening night of December 31 and January 1.

Seems like idol worshipping is difficult to tolerate.

 

[MenInG]

After Lord Rama, Another Deity's Idol Desecrated In Andhra Pradesh; 2nd Incident In A Week


https://www.republicworld.com/india...in-andhra-pradesh-2nd-incident-in-a-week.html



Seems like idol worshipping is difficult to tolerate.

Suggest go easy with the link posting. You've made your point, best to hold on until new issues come up or you are replying to someone.

 

[MenInG]

You give him a bbc link, he replies with dawn. Comedy!!!

Think the comedy is really when you tell us BBC are biased against India in some other threads.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

British Parliament divided British India into two. Hindus Muslims Sikhs were all colonial slaves. Thats the hard truth.

Pakistan had the advantage of putting India into a pincer move. East Pakistan gdp was higher than west and population was bigger too. So whats the reason that the PA surrendered there?

Why this propoganda that the army from west needed to go to east to defend.

Pakistan had the geographical advantage of dividing the Indian forces into two directions.

Worry about the future of pakistan, not India.

Take it up in one of the threads about partition, if we start going down this route, might as well forget about discussing this one. I'm having to scroll up and check the thread title to see what we are actually supposed to be discussing.

 

[LaLoco]

You give him a bbc link, he replies with dawn. Comedy!!!

I could have given any other link or multiple links but that is not the point nor you and your ilk care about actual facts.

1971 is used and will continue to be used by India for chest thumping. Plenty of thread exist on this forum with reputable link which highlighted this particular point, dig it up.

1971 was long time ago, between that time and now, Pakistan had served a cup of tea to the soldier of a mighty Indian army who had entered Pakistan on the order of one of the, supposedly the greatest Emperor of Hindutva.

So, 1971 has no relevance in 2022, Bangladesh is a free a country and doing quite well, Pakistan is on the track of doing well, too.

Radicalism and extremisms is on the rise in India.

But again, lets keep the comedy away from this thread and get back to the actual purpose of this thread, which is, how a minority of India marching through India and force converting the majority, marrying Hindu girls and converting them, how a brothers of a minority girls killing Hindu men for falling in love, and how vulnerable are over 800 million Indians against the minority of the India.

KISS - "Keep it simple stupid" - marginalize and dehumanize the minority in India so the violence and implementation of laws that subjugate them can easily be observed. - personally, I would hate it if someone were to divert this thread to usual childish chest thumping instead of it's actual purpose, marginalize and dehumanized the minority - stay on the course, you are almost there

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

LoL- who made you upset today?

what if the male was Muslim, would you have posted it? - I am sure you can find a couple with a Muslim man and a Hindu girl and the muslim male was killed by Hindu brothers.

You do not have to justify your support of Modi, BJP, RSS in marginalizing and bigotry of Muslims, you reside in India, it is probably, now a days, easiest thing to do.

Exactly my point. He skips past those threads and look how active he is in this thread.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The violence is from both sides and thats the fact.

Since the fake leftist liberals choose to highlight one side only and ofcourse the political parties hanker after one vote bank only rss or bjp or rather only hindus are highlighted.

What marginalization? Can you cite a law that is against muslims?

Fact is BJP only gets shia muslim votes and women muslim votes, while they get Majority of hindu votes. Hence they do not engage in minority appeasement. Now for last 3-4 decades esp since the death of Indira Gandhi, India has had a fractured vote bank. More and more parties have tried to get muslim votes to win elections.

In doing so, they have allowed laws to be flouted. The appeasement grew so much that hindu counter polarization happened resulting in BJP coming to power. Now ofcourse BJP now doesn't give any special rights to the minority, and wants everyone to fall in line with the law.

Law has to be equal for all religions in a secular country.

Yeah but you only post in a thread which suits your agenda.