Let's appreciate Younis Khan

[Chief Destroyer]

My concern, is that even in this innings, he still wasn't covering the line of the ball with his back leg, which if not addressed will lead to greater inconsistency.

Which is precisely what's going to happen. He's still playing away from his body with the back leg planted after the initial trigger, the front leg started getting to the pitch of the ball later into the innings.

Pitch flattened, hardly any lateral movement, ball 40 overs old and Cook gave him the start he needed by overbowling Moeen. He won't get this lucky every time.

Regardless, it was a timely knock. Won't take away credit.

 

[shaz619]

These nakli pakistan supporters resort to scorecards to form their opinion, will come out with all kinds of garbage excuses to belittle a champion but the narrow minded views of vultures mean nothing, the enthusiasts understand the extent of true greatness and give respect/credit where it is due!

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=501]Talha[/MENTION] Syed what a knock from the champion!

 

[The_KING]

The Pakistani fans who hate and ridicule him should support another team. We should respect our highest run scorer in test cricket

 

[shaz619]

The wicket at the Oval was quicker then Edgbaston, more bounce and a real true wicket, Younis had to survive the morning session to and the second new ball when they were getting it to do a bit but the haters are burned so bad they have lost their minds completely [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=141718]LowKiiSavage[/MENTION] Sudo-Crem running out?

 

[Adrak]

Not even the British press, commentary team and sky pundits have ridiculed Younis as much as pathetic low life fans who have been wanting him to fail, they made a few jokes but appreciated his fighting spirit because Younis rarely got out cheaply and was getting better with each innings displaying improvement, that's the mark of a legend; you show what you're made of when things are not going so well and you have your back against the wall Younis CHOMPIAN! Younis CHOMPIAN! But everybody know [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION] and all the haters are BURNING! BURNING! BURNING!

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I seriously don't get those Pakistani fans who hate him. He's been their backbone of the middle order for over a decade now but they still hating him. Ungrateful people don't deserve greatness like Younis to be honest.

 

[shaz619]

I seriously don't get those Pakistani fans who hate him. He's been their backbone of the middle order for over a decade now but they still hating him. Ungrateful people don't deserve greatness like Younis to be honest.

Honestly, Indian fans respect him more then those haters. My Indian mates in the UK love the guy. Such fans don't deserve a player of his calibre and we have very few batting role models of Khan's aura, in fact he's the last of his kind.

 

[Adrak]

Honestly, Indian fans respect him more then those haters. My Indian mates in the UK love the guy. Such fans don't deserve a player of his calibre and we have very few batting role models of Khan's aura, in fact he's the last of his kind.

people don't see how difficult it will be for their team once he retires. Just be grateful and admire the legend.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Kept on saying this before the series started. You have points to score, pick on someone else. Don't pick on the best batsman Pakistan has right now. This is a legend we are talking about. Was sickening to see the despicable comments about his age and the way he plays, when every one of us knew deep inside he would come good.

Question to his detractors, which I asked before the series aswell, when has YK ever disappointed? When has he never scored? Has there ever been a series where he hasn't performed? This guy is arguably Pakistan's best test batsman. Inzi and Miandad eclipse him only because of their LOI achievements/skill-set. But the insane consistency YK has series after series, you can do nothing besides admire this guy.

 

[GudduBadmash]

Batting paradise for a man who is weak against pace and bounce.

 

[Suleiman]

It was a good innings, but I stand by my stance. I do not admire him.

Just like few people cannot admire Amir even if he takes wickets because of his tainted past. I respect the choice of those people.

Obviously Younis hasn't done a crime like Amir, at the very least he hasn't sold out his country. But I do not like him as a person. His antics over the years has pretty much dried up support for him from my end, and that's just how it is, I don't need to change this opinion.

So yeah you can say "haters where are you now lololol" but honestly if you can support him after all the blackmailing, fan beating, chickening out of captaincy and other egotistical antics then you're free to do so. But not all of us will be swayed by a double ton.

 

[Adrak]

It was a good innings, but I stand by my stance. I do not admire him.

Just like few people cannot admire Amir even if he takes wickets because of his tainted past. I respect the choice of those people.

Obviously Younis hasn't done a crime like Amir, at the very least he hasn't sold out his country. But I do not like him as a person. His antics over the years has pretty much dried up support for him from my end, and that's just how it is, I don't need to change this opinion.

So yeah you can say "haters where are you now lololol" but honestly if you can support him after all the blackmailing, fan beating, chickening out of captaincy and other egotistical antics then you're free to do so. But not all of us will be swayed by a double ton.

captaincy isn't mandatory for a cricketer for your information. Keep being ungrateful.

 

[Suleiman]

captaincy isn't mandatory for a cricketer for your information. Keep being ungrateful.

It goes deeper than that. Maybe because you aren't a Pak fan you may or may not have heard of the story, but he was groomed for the role and he knew full well that the captaincy would be given to him when Inzi bows out, instead he chickened out at the last moment when he could've declined the offer a long way back.

Feel free to look at it as ungratefulness, but I don't think we are doomed if he is removed from tests.

 

[shaz619]

It was a good innings, but I stand by my stance. I do not admire him.

Just like few people cannot admire Amir even if he takes wickets because of his tainted past. I respect the choice of those people.

Obviously Younis hasn't done a crime like Amir, at the very least he hasn't sold out his country. But I do not like him as a person. His antics over the years has pretty much dried up support for him from my end, and that's just how it is, I don't need to change this opinion.

So yeah you can say "haters where are you now lololol" but honestly if you can support him after all the blackmailing, fan beating, chickening out of captaincy and other egotistical antics then you're free to do so. But not all of us will be swayed by a double ton.

Yeah that's all good but peeps revel in his failures and rather have Pakistan lose then Younis do well so that's just pathetic and disgusting, there is no perfect angel XI in cricket and we back the team when they put on that green shirt irrespective of x,y,z.

 

[Suleiman]

Yeah that's all good but peeps revel in his failures and rather have Pakistan lose then Younis do well so that's just pathetic and disgusting, there is no perfect angel XI in cricket and we back the team when they put on that green shirt irrespective of x,y,z.

Yeah that's why I said it was a good innings. Think of it like Azhar and Hafeez putting up with Amir. Obv even though they had differences with him, they're not going to purposefully want him to fail.

Same case here, obviously I want the team to win, doesn't matter who scores the runs. But I'd give a heartier congratulations if it was someone else scoring that double ton.

 

[shaz619]

Yeah that's why I said it was a good innings. Think of it like Azhar and Hafeez putting up with Amir. Obv even though they had differences with him, they're not going to purposefully want him to fail.

Same case here, obviously I want the team to win, doesn't matter who scores the runs. But I'd give a heartier congratulations if it was someone else scoring that double ton.

Fair enough nothing wrong with that but when he was failing the true colours of his naysayers came out, they weren't as objective and they were everything they hate so I found it surprising how quick the moral high ground was taken ; they are quick to point out Younis sins of the past but were guilty of their own animalistic tendencies when it came to him and took it too far to the point where I found it extremely sickening

 

[Suleiman]

Fair enough nothing wrong with that but when he was failing the true colours of his naysayers came out, they weren't as objective and they were everything they hate so I found it surprising how quick the moral high ground was taken ; they are quick to point out Younis sins of the past but were guilty of their own animalistic tendencies when it came to him.

Nah I wouldn't say that. They were taking the mickey out of him just like they do with any other player who is flopping like Hafeez, Umar Akmal, Shehzad, etc etc. That's just how it goes in Pak cricket. When someone's doing bad he gets a lot of stick. Calling him dancer and shouting "ehh macarena" like one guy did there is no different to poking fun at Shehzad by calling him shelfie, or having a go at Akmal.

Now obviously if you try to get personal and use personal insults then that is in poor taste, though I haven't seen that for Younis Khan.

Though his antics definitely amplified the vitriol, and he has himself to blame for that.

 

[The_KING]

It was a good innings, but I stand by my stance. I do not admire him.

Just like few people cannot admire Amir even if he takes wickets because of his tainted past. I respect the choice of those people.

Obviously Younis hasn't done a crime like Amir, at the very least he hasn't sold out his country. But I do not like him as a person. His antics over the years has pretty much dried up support for him from my end, and that's just how it is, I don't need to change this opinion.

So yeah you can say "haters where are you now lololol" but honestly if you can support him after all the blackmailing, fan beating, chickening out of captaincy and other egotistical antics then you're free to do so. But not all of us will be swayed by a double ton.

What you think about him as a person shouldn't really cloud your judgement of him as a great test batsman.

 

[shaz619]

Nah I wouldn't say that. They were taking the mickey out of him just like they do with any other player who is flopping like Hafeez, Umar Akmal, Shehzad, etc etc. That's just how it goes in Pak cricket. When someone's doing bad he gets a lot of stick. Calling him dancer and shouting "ehh macarena" like one guy did there is no different to poking fun at Shehzad by calling him shelfie, or having a go at Akmal.

Now obviously if you try to get personal and use personal insults then that is in poor taste, though I haven't seen that for Younis Khan.

Though his antics definitely amplified the vitriol, and he has himself to blame for that.

That's all good the jokes etc but I certainly saw people get personal and take it way too far, the vitriol is not justified on any level and to point fingers at younis for their animalistic tendencies just go to show the sought of people they are so its a bit rich when they take the moral high ground with him because they are everything they hate

 

[Suleiman]

That's all good the jokes etc but I certainly saw people get personal and take it way too far, the vitriol is not justified on any level and to point fingers at younis for their animalistic tendencies just go to show the sought of people they are so its a bit rich when they take the moral high ground with him because they are everything they hate

It's a jungle out there. Younis got what he deserved, the double ton through grit and determination, as well as the bad rep because of his own selfish doings.

 

[naseem]

I hoped he played same amount of test as cook or any other Aussie cricketer.... he would have got mountain of runs.... a true legend

 

[#GreenRoars]

Epic knock from him, very well crafted. People saying it was a Flat track, but i saw Sky graphics which showed some thing else. Wel, if it was a flat track then i wonder why others couldn't hit a ton or double ton??? Or it was flat track because YK performed?

 

[Syed1]

Epic knock from him, very well crafted. People saying it was a Flat track, but i saw Sky graphics which showed some thing else. Wel, if it was a flat track then i wonder why others couldn't hit a ton or double ton??? Or it was flat track because YK performed?

If it is a flat track then why is the home floundering at 88 for 4??

 

[street cricketer]

Epic knock from him, very well crafted. People saying it was a Flat track, but i saw Sky graphics which showed some thing else. Wel, if it was a flat track then i wonder why others couldn't hit a ton or double ton??? Or it was flat track because YK performed?

But it was still a very good batting track. Forget about the stats, it's because the other three were roads but this track had relatively better pace and carry. The thing is, the wicket had a nice covering of grass on the first day but was still a good wicket to bat on if the initial movement was negotiated, which is why Cook elected to bat first but they were done in by the pace of Wahab. The 2nd day morning was a bright sunny day which nicely baked whatever grass was there on the wicket and it was described as "pristine batting conditions" by Bumble on air and Selvey in the Guardian. 3rd day had a layer of clouds but it was more or less the same. There was hardly any movement off the pitch like the traditional English pitch. This is still a good wicket in the sense that it had a bit of grass to start with but still good batting conditions and the sun had made the pitch dry up and end up assisting spin for the 4th and the 5th days. England prepared placid wickets to negate the Pakistan pacers and Yasir but it sort of played into the hands of Pakistan imo.

This is, of course, not to take credit away from Younis or Pakistan for that matter. India got 3 similar placid pitches in Australia and only Brisbane had a bit of bounce. But I still appreciated India's performance that series because Australia are a different beast at home and it's always tough to compete against them regardless of the pitches. It would be hypocritical of people to play down this performance because of the placid pitches that were on offer this series.

 

[GudduBadmash]

Younis Khan scored a double ton batting with a tail on a flat track yet the home team is languishing on 88-4 with two days left. The pace and bounce on this pitch is the highest it has been all tour.

Basically rival player fans are salty their favourites did not smash a match winning and series saving 200

 

[Cricketrenew]

You make it sound like he deliberately unperformed in the first three matches.

I feel there are cliques in the team, maybe it is a way to get rid off the current captain.
he is a great batsman but have doubts how he batted previously, he has never been so bad to lift his back leg like a dancer and look so awful as he did. If Misbah announces his retirement after this match then I am right there was an attitude change because of new information.
If Misbah stays which I hope he does then lets see what happens in the next series.

It was a great innings, like so many before. Even if he doesn't score but gets out on good balls its ok but feel he gave his wicket away too easily before.

 

[Suleiman]

Performance was expected though after being carried by the other batsmen 3 tests in a row.

 

[GudduBadmash]

I feel there are cliques in the team, maybe it is a way to get rid off the current captain.
he is a great batsman but have doubts how he batted previously, he has never been so bad to lift his back leg like a dancer and look so awful as he did. If Misbah announces his retirement after this match then I am right there was an attitude change because of new information.
If Misbah stays which I hope he does then lets see what happens in the next series.

It was a great innings, like so many before. Even if he doesn't score but gets out on good balls its ok but feel he gave his wicket away too easily before.

So you might have a point actually

171*
38
45
56
118
31
33
25
1
28
31
4
218

Scores in his last few innings does seem a bit suspicious. This must officially mean that Mohammad Hafeez is the chief instigator because he cannot buy a run.


PCB should investigate your serious claim

 

[GudduBadmash]

Performance was expected though after being carried by the other batsmen 3 tests in a row.

OH

Top Scorers for Pakistan

Younis: 340
Misbah: 282
Asad: 274
Azhar: 274
Sarfaraz: 193

Man who stopped the others from scoring double tons

 

[Cricketrenew]

Get a life. If he wanted Misbah to fail then Misbah wouldn't have survived for this long.

About 8ish years ago Younis was ousted with similar style......by some players........
He never should have been replaced at that time.......now feel same is happening to Misbah.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

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Batting paradise for a man who is weak against pace and bounce.

What was the pitch rating for this test?

 

[Uzair Gooner]

How should Younus Khan be remembered?

A lot has been said about Younus' ability to score in the tough conditions or outside Asia recently, but is he that bad a batsman outside of Asia?

People are making the assumptions of him being suspect against lateral movement on the basis of his recent performance when he is on his last legs and reflexes aren't as good as they were 5 yeas ago, but some of the posters are claiming that he would have failed if he toured Eng and Aus in 2009-2010.

Lets have a look what he achieved in these countries when he was in his prime

In Australia Test Series 2004/05

His first tour to Australia and he ended up being our highest run scorer against an attack of Mccgrath, Gillespie and Warne

Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s
3 6 0 259 87 43.16 513 50.48 0 1 0 31 0

In England Test Series 2006

He produce some of the best innings of his entire career in term of stroke play, not only he scored heavily on this tour but also was the only one to put up some resistance on a very bouncy Old Trafford pitch where Pakistan was trounced by an innings and 120 runs, he scored 45 and 63 in that test match. (He didn't play the first test and batted at 3 throughout the series)

Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s
3 5 0 329 173 65.80 562 58.54 1 1 0 40 0

In South Africa Test Series, 2006/07

Again he ended up being our highest run scorer in a low scoring series, and scored a gritty 67 not out in 4th innings to guide us to a famous win Port Elizabeth.

Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s
3 6 1 226 68 45.20 434 52.07 0 2 1 27 0

In NZ he averages 44 even after a horrible tour.

Younus' legacy can never be questioned by anyone, throughout his illustrious career he fought against the odds and with a very little batting talent as compared to his "Talented and Gifted" teammates he make up for it with his character and determination.
His inability to play the moving ball is a myth considering he batted at 3 till 2008 had to face the new ball most of the times when Greats like Inzi and Yousuf keeps on hiding themselves in the middle order. The prime example was 2009/2010 when Younus was dropped and Yousuf threw Fawad, Faisal, Akmal jr, and Manzoor in the deep end by making them bat at 3 in Australia and NZ.

Is he an ATG or not will always remain up for debate. He may have a very volatile character and is prone for throwing in a tantrum or two, but he has proved that technique and talent alone won't take you very far if you don't have the temperament, something that Younus has in abundance. In world where people are deluded to consider elegance, talent and aesthetics as the keys to succeed as a batman, he defied the odds by his sheer hard work and determination and rose to the top.

No matter when he retires, Younus Khan will always be remembered as a special player that deserves a special place in history.

 

[Sarwar89]

Soon forgotten man Younis Khan will finally get respect for his 2009 heroics

Younis Khan the captain of Pakistan team in 2009 T20 World Cup in England was never ever given due respect and honor which he deserved after winning that world cup despite getting thrashed by England in opening game and in 2nd round v Sri lanka.

His glory of 2009 has always been brushed under the carpet. What Aussies did to us last night, Younis Khan did that to South Africa ( who were unbeaten) in Semi Finals and Sri lanka ( who were unbeaten too).

I think defeats in semi finals of T20 WC
In

2010
2012
2021

Will make people understand to respect Younis Khan’s feat of 2009, it was no fluke and current team is far better than the one which won in 2009.

Younis was never even given credit for Karachi decisive Test win when in 2006, pak were 39/6 against India.

It takes so much luck and skill on that day to win big matches, Younis had that luck with him.

Players betrayed him in 2009 ICC Champions trophy semi final big time cuz he was on verge of creating history there too. He was never given credit for beating India in 2009 ICC champions trophy match.

I always repeat Respect Younis Khan who actually did come home with Trophy in 2009.

Current team is good and will bounce back there are 4 ICC Events coming up

2022 T20 World Cup
2023 ODI world cup
2023 ICC Test championship
2025 ICC Champions trophy

So a lot is coming up.

But bottom
Line is Younis khan never got attention in 2009.

 

[muazy1]

I agree with you 100%! But Pakistani's will give you hate for no reason cause they live in emotions and if you try to burst their bubble, you will be on the receiving end!

Younus khan is and will be the one of the best skippers Pakistan had albeit for a short time

 

[ElRaja]

younis was a decent captain in that tourny but the assertion that the 2021 team is better than 2009 is wrong, the kind of form they were in, razzaq, gul, afridi, ajmal walk into this xi, that bolwing line up was something else.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Winning the T20 World Cup in its current guise is a total lottery, which is arguably why the favourites have seldom won this trophy since its inception.

If they change the competition structure to a league akin to the IPL or even the Hundred, you'd see the best teams invariably winning.

That said, Younis Khan definitely deserves a lot of credit for leading the side to the 2009 title.

 

[Ab Fan]

I have always rated him very highly.

The only test batsman alongside Sachin Tendulkar to score 10,000+ test runs with an average of 50+ in Australia, England and India.

#Much Respect

 

[shamaan]

As a test batter he's proberly the best Pakistan has produced but the 2009 was won due to Afridi

 

[asadee]

His captaincy in the tight SF against South Africa was really good