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Liam Livingstone v Tim David: who is the most lethal weapon in T20 cricket?

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Two absolute behemoths of Batting! Both are going to be in the PSL now during its crunch matches!

Tim David alone began the trend of batting first wins matches at Karachi and this guy can hit the biggest sixes all around the park.

Liam Livingstone is an absolute monster hitter too! This is a rivalry I want to see so badly in T20 cricket for many years to come, who’s going to win his side the PSL 7? Who would you have in your side if you could pick one?
 
Livingstone is the most dangerous batsman in the world right now for my money. Jos Buttler is probably a centimeter behind him. And Maxwell is also pretty unstoppable when he gets going.

Don't think Tim David will ever be taken seriously if he keeps playing for freaking Singapore. Needs to play for Australia and do well to be considered in the same league as the others.
 
Tim David is a supreme power hitter and probably the more destructive batter.

Livingston is an excellent power hitter and can bowl some tidy overs too.

If I had to pick one I'd take Livingstone for all round ability.
 
Tim looks a million dollars no doubt but needs to do it @ international level to be considered a rival to Liam or Maxwell for that matter
 
I hope Australia can entice Tim David into playing international cricket for them. He can do what Hussey used to do in LOIs. A brilliant no.5 or no.6
Livingstone has only recently found his real niche in LOI cricket with his supreme six hitting. I think Livingstone can play all 3 formats for England. But the sixes that Livingstone hits are next worldly stuff.
 
Livingstone has been doing this for years now. Tim David is newer to the scene. We'll see after a year or so
 
Lancashire Lightning is delighted to announce the overseas signing of Tim David, for the Club’s 2022 Vitality Blast campaign.

A batting all-rounder, Tim was born in Singapore and has played 14 T20 Internationals for the National Team, averaging 47 with a strike rate of 159. He has also claimed three wickets with his right arm off-spin.

Standing at six foot five inches, Tim is renowned as a powerful and clean ball striker who is currently playing a key role for Multan Sultans at the Pakistan Super League (PSL), lighting up the early stages of the tournament with a 29-ball 71 against Islambad United before striking the second-fastest half-century in PSL history against Peshawar Zalmi.

The 25-year-old – who has also represented Southern Brave in The Hundred, St Lucia in the Caribbean Premier League, the Royal Challengers Bangalore in the Indian Premier League and Hobart Hurricanes in Australia’s Big Bash League – has an impressive T20 record, playing 83 matches, scoring 1,850 runs at a strike rate of 159.

Tim enjoyed his first spell in English county cricket with Surrey last summer – scoring two centuries and a fifty in 10 Royal London Cup matches along with making two Vitality Blast appearances for the Kia Oval outfit.
 
Lancashire Lightning is delighted to announce the overseas signing of Tim David, for the Club’s 2022 Vitality Blast campaign.

A batting all-rounder, Tim was born in Singapore and has played 14 T20 Internationals for the National Team, averaging 47 with a strike rate of 159. He has also claimed three wickets with his right arm off-spin.

Standing at six foot five inches, Tim is renowned as a powerful and clean ball striker who is currently playing a key role for Multan Sultans at the Pakistan Super League (PSL), lighting up the early stages of the tournament with a 29-ball 71 against Islambad United before striking the second-fastest half-century in PSL history against Peshawar Zalmi.

The 25-year-old – who has also represented Southern Brave in The Hundred, St Lucia in the Caribbean Premier League, the Royal Challengers Bangalore in the Indian Premier League and Hobart Hurricanes in Australia’s Big Bash League – has an impressive T20 record, playing 83 matches, scoring 1,850 runs at a strike rate of 159.

Tim enjoyed his first spell in English county cricket with Surrey last summer – scoring two centuries and a fifty in 10 Royal London Cup matches along with making two Vitality Blast appearances for the Kia Oval outfit.

Livingstone and Tim David both in the same side! My God there will be carnage!!
 
Liam Livingstone's superb IPL continues.

No one has scored more runs at a higher strike-rate than Livingstone in this year's tournament.

He has scored 224 runs at 37.33 with a strike-rate of 185.12
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55357;&#56490; <a href="https://twitter.com/timdavid8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@timdavid8</a> hits them HARD <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Blast22?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Blast22</a> <a href="https://t.co/iaHgItDh2D">pic.twitter.com/iaHgItDh2D</a></p>— Vitality Blast (@VitalityBlast) <a href="https://twitter.com/VitalityBlast/status/1530927852874616832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55357;&#56490; <a href="https://twitter.com/timdavid8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@timdavid8</a> hits them HARD <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Blast22?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Blast22</a> <a href="https://t.co/iaHgItDh2D">pic.twitter.com/iaHgItDh2D</a></p>— Vitality Blast (@VitalityBlast) <a href="https://twitter.com/VitalityBlast/status/1530927852874616832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So David and Livingstone both are playing for Lancs?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55357;&#56490; <a href="https://twitter.com/liaml4893?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@liaml4893</a> &#55357;&#56485;<br><br>A sharp rain shower has brought us to a halt at Trent Bridge. <br><br>46-1 (5.2)<br><br>⚡️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LightningStrikes?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LightningStrikes</a> <a href="https://t.co/IY1K2K8MPk">pic.twitter.com/IY1K2K8MPk</a></p>— Lancashire Lightning (@lancscricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/lancscricket/status/1531695614165229569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2022</a></blockquote>
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David has raised his stock since this thread was made, but at the end of the day IPL is still another T20 league. And doing well there is simply not the same as doing well on the international level.

How is he not being selected for Australia though, if he has dual-citizenship? There was another player not too long ago: Mark Chapman, who got selected for New Zealand after he had already made his international debut for Hong Kong. So clearly that is not the issue.

I would be quite shocked if Tim David is somehow not in Australia's squad for the T20 World Cup later this year.
 
I think David is more of a finisher and Livingstone a middle order batter who can bat through the innings.

On the other hand, I think Livingstone has the pedigree in him to become a test player as well.
 
Funny how both these guys are playing for the same team in the Vitality Blast.
 
Both are lethal but, bit different in the kind of roles they have been performing. Tim David is better for the role of finisher but, Livingstone can change the match in any flexible middle order position (used to open as well couple of years back) he bats at and add to that he is a pretty useful off as well as leg spin option.

Both are in high demand and rightly so in T20 cricket but final call would be dependent upon what a team needs. If the team is lacking a finisher than they have to pick Tim David without a second thought however, if a T20 team already has a reliable finisher or two then Liam would be the way to go.
 
David has raised his stock since this thread was made, but at the end of the day IPL is still another T20 league. And doing well there is simply not the same as doing well on the international level.

How is he not being selected for Australia though, if he has dual-citizenship? There was another player not too long ago: Mark Chapman, who got selected for New Zealand after he had already made his international debut for Hong Kong. So clearly that is not the issue.

I would be quite shocked if Tim David is somehow not in Australia's squad for the T20 World Cup later this year.

In the plans of Aus as per Finch

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricke...d049834c7d623904edaf6101d9?recommendedCount=0
 
Two exceptionally dangerous players that are any bowling captain's nightmare. You need to get these boys out early in their innings or they will settle in and hurt your team beyond repair!

The version of David Miller we saw in this year's IPL is right up there too!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Liam Livingstone is starting to tee off! &#55357;&#56485;<br><br>Watch him bat LIVE ➡️ <a href="https://t.co/fvUbVrnZuz">https://t.co/fvUbVrnZuz</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Blast22?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Blast22</a> <a href="https://t.co/tl6iEYZzZN">pic.twitter.com/tl6iEYZzZN</a></p>— Vitality Blast (@VitalityBlast) <a href="https://twitter.com/VitalityBlast/status/1532009467331616769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2022</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tim David hits a long ball, what's new? <a href="https://twitter.com/timdavid8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@timdavid8</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/lancscricket?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@lancscricket</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Blast22?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Blast22</a> <a href="https://t.co/pVQLVCDe6z">pic.twitter.com/pVQLVCDe6z</a></p>— Vitality Blast (@VitalityBlast) <a href="https://twitter.com/VitalityBlast/status/1531982203751743490?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 1, 2022</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nobody does it like <a href="https://twitter.com/timdavid8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@timdavid8</a> &#55357;&#56846; <a href="https://twitter.com/lancscricket?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@lancscricket</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Blast22?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Blast22</a> <a href="https://t.co/7LppYvFefV">pic.twitter.com/7LppYvFefV</a></p>— Vitality Blast (@VitalityBlast) <a href="https://twitter.com/VitalityBlast/status/1533040707400761344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 4, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Tim David and Liam Livingstone at Lancashire= 50 Cent and The Game “This is how we do”
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is Tim David the best T20 batter in the world? &#55358;&#56596;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Blast22?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Blast22</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RosesT20?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RosesT20</a> <a href="https://t.co/QsHgiUGZAj">pic.twitter.com/QsHgiUGZAj</a></p>— Vitality Blast (@VitalityBlast) <a href="https://twitter.com/VitalityBlast/status/1534612210667896833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Ricky Ponting, one of T20 cricket's preeminent minds, believes Tim David could win Australia the T20 World Cup should he be selected in the reigning champions squad for this year's tournament.

David is yet to debut for Australia despite a setting the global T20 circuit alight over the past few years with his finishing prowess.

The 26-year-old middle-order power-hitter is currently the format's third-highest run-scorer worldwide this year with 1002 at an incredible strike rate of 183.51 and finished the Indian Premier League's as the tournament's leading striker among batters to have faced more than 25 balls (186 runs at a strike rate of 216.27 from eight matches).

Ponting, who has recently taken over as head of strategy at David's Hobart Hurricanes, said the way David had transformed his game over the past few seasons had been "quite remarkable".

"If I was a selector, I'd love to have someone like that in my team," said Ponting after announcing Jeff Vaughan as the Hurricanes' new men's coach alongside assistants James Hopes and Darren Berry.

"He's an out and out match winner.

"He's the sort of player that could actually win you a World Cup, he's not just the average run of the mill guy that might just sneak into a squad.

"He actually reminds me a bit of Andrew Symonds back in the 2003 (ODI) World Cup.

"You know that if you get them in and give them an opportunity that they're a chance of winning a tournament for you.

"That's how I'd be looking at him right now and I know there's some other quality players in the middle-order for Australia but probably none of them boasts a resume as good as Tim's over the last two years."

David declared last week he wants to be part of Australia title defence at this year's World Cup should a spot open up in their line-up, but with time running out before the tournament gets underway in October, he would need to be named in the squad before making his debut for the country.

Such a situation is not unprecedented though, with reserve wicketkeeper Josh Inglis a member of last year's World Cup-winning squad in the UAE before his eventual international debut against Sri Lanka in February this year.

Australia have T20 series in India in mid-September and two at home in October – against West Indies and England – before their World Cup campaign gets underway on October 22, but squads need to be submitted to the ICC about a month prior to the tournament.

But Ponting doesn't think that should hold chief national selector and former teammate George Bailey back.

"(David's) a very, very good and very dangerous T20 player that I'm sure the Australian selectors are thinking long and hard about for the World Cup in a couple of months' time," the 168-Test great said.

"It was only a couple of seasons ago that he was struggling to get a game in the Perth Scorchers line-up.

"He's been incredible in almost every tournament he's played around the world in the last 12 to 18 months.

"He's obviously one player that we are extremely excited about (and) I think there's a chance for him to take on a bit more responsibility in the batting line-up with the Hurricanes this season.

"Because of his consistency and match-winning ability we don't want to waste that and have him sitting on the sidelines too long."

Another player that could get Hurricanes fans excited is Australian opener David Warner, whose name was brought up at the new coaching panel's first strategy meeting on Thursday night.

Warner, who hasn't played in the Big Bash in eight years, played under Ponting at the Delhi Capitals during this year's IPL where he moved into third spot on the competition's all-time leading run-scorers list behind Virat Kohli and Shikhar Dhawan.

The 35-year-old left-hander could potentially be available for the back end of KFC BBL|12 following the New Year's Test in Sydney after South Africa withdrew from the three-match ODI series in January owing to a clash with their own domestic T20 league.

"We'll keep pursuing these (Australian) guys," Ponting said.

"There's other gaps in our squad that are probably more pressing than a top-order batsman – we've already got (D'Arcy) Short, (Matthew) Wade, (Ben) McDermott.

"But if we're able to land someone like David Warner in our squad … we could bat him pretty much anywhere; he's batted in different slots in T20 cricket in the past."

Having been used earlier in the innings by Lancashire in the recent T20 Blast season, new Hobart coach Vaughan also flagged a shift in how the Hurricanes might use their ace finisher in David.

"It may not necessarily be a number where he bats, it will probably be a time of the game where we will want to inject him or want him to be facing balls," Vaughan said.

"Largely, the best players are the best players whether they're batting at one, two, five or six and clearly Tim has shown that he's an exceptional T20 cricketer … and I'm really excited to be able to work with him."

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/tim...selection-hobart-hurricanes-warner/2022-07-23
 
David heads the list for most 6s in T20s in 2022.

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