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Misbah decision 1: Appoint a failing almost-35 year old as captain after his Test batting average for the last 2 years has fallen by 18 runs from 46 to 28.

Misbah decision 2: Drop your fast-bowling all-rounder from a tour of Australia after he took 6-99 in the previous Test.

Misbah decision 3: Pick a suspiciously old off-spinning all-rounder to tour Australia instead of a pace-bowling all-rounder.

Misbah decision 4: Don't pick tall fast bowlers like Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul to tour Australia. Pack your pace bowling attack with guys of under 6 foot in height - Abbas, Imran, Naseem and Musa.

Misbah decision 5: Pick short, slow "Fast" bowlers like Mohammad Abbas and Imran Khan to tour Australia - guys who both failed on their last tour to South Africa and Australia respectively.

Misbah decision 6: Pick a fast bowling attack in which the players are either too old (Imran Khan, Mohammad Abbas) or too raw (Mohammad Musa, Naseem Shah). Ignore fast bowlers aged in their twenties.

Misbah decision 7: Don't take to Australia the spinner who took 4 wickets and scored a 50 in your last Test, in identical conditions in South Africa. Instead pick the guy who averages 88 runs per wicket with the ball after 6 Tests in Australia, South Africa and New Zealand.
 
Looks like he stole your cookies or something. How many threads are you going to create on the same subject? :najam

The guy just came up with probably the best ever squad, full of promising youngsters, and here you are with your biases still spreading hate. Salute to him to moving our cricket forward, freeing us from the Mickey Arthur era of Sarfraz, Malik and Hafeez.

He will not select Salman Butt, Faheem Ashraf, neither he will or should select Ehsan Adil.

Calm down and deal with the top selections like Naseem Shah. Also, Azhar is our best batsman in Australia, stop with your selective stats.
 
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Misbah decision 1: Appoint a failing almost-35 year old as captain after his Test batting average for the last 2 years has fallen by 18 runs from 46 to 28.

Misbah decision 2: Drop your fast-bowling all-rounder from a tour of Australia after he took 6-99 in the previous Test.

Misbah decision 3: Pick a suspiciously old off-spinning all-rounder to tour Australia instead of a pace-bowling all-rounder.

Misbah decision 4: Don't pick tall fast bowlers like Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul to tour Australia. Pack your pace bowling attack with guys of under 6 foot in height - Abbas, Imran, Naseem and Musa.

Misbah decision 5: Pick short, slow "Fast" bowlers like Mohammad Abbas and Imran Khan to tour Australia - guys who both failed on their last tour to South Africa and Australia respectively.

Misbah decision 6: Pick a fast bowling attack in which the players are either too old (Imran Khan, Mohammad Abbas) or too raw (Mohammad Musa, Naseem Shah). Ignore fast bowlers aged in their twenties.

Misbah decision 7: Don't take to Australia the spinner who took 4 wickets and scored a 50 in your last Test, in identical conditions in South Africa. Instead pick the guy who averages 88 runs per wicket with the ball after 6 Tests in Australia, South Africa and New Zealand.

I agree with point 1.

Disagree with point 2.

Half agree with point 3 (although I would have gone with Shadab for his batting)

Half agree with point 4 (would have gone with Sameen over Imran Khan Sr)

Again half agree with point 5 (Shouldn't have gone with Imran)

Half agree with point 6

Agree with point 7
 
Misbah decision 1: Appoint a failing almost-35 year old as captain after his Test batting average for the last 2 years has fallen by 18 runs from 46 to 28.

Misbah decision 2: Drop your fast-bowling all-rounder from a tour of Australia after he took 6-99 in the previous Test.

Misbah decision 3: Pick a suspiciously old off-spinning all-rounder to tour Australia instead of a pace-bowling all-rounder.

Misbah decision 4: Don't pick tall fast bowlers like Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul to tour Australia. Pack your pace bowling attack with guys of under 6 foot in height - Abbas, Imran, Naseem and Musa.

Misbah decision 5: Pick short, slow "Fast" bowlers like Mohammad Abbas and Imran Khan to tour Australia - guys who both failed on their last tour to South Africa and Australia respectively.

Misbah decision 6: Pick a fast bowling attack in which the players are either too old (Imran Khan, Mohammad Abbas) or too raw (Mohammad Musa, Naseem Shah). Ignore fast bowlers aged in their twenties.

Misbah decision 7: Don't take to Australia the spinner who took 4 wickets and scored a 50 in your last Test, in identical conditions in South Africa. Instead pick the guy who averages 88 runs per wicket with the ball after 6 Tests in Australia, South Africa and New Zealand.

Some very good points made, but there could be explanation for each of those.

1 - completely agree. Azhar could be a worse pick for this tour than Sarfraz in SAF. Sarfraz actually kept brilliantly and did score a 50. Having said that, I think there was very little option - current management is almost forced to go with Azhar, because there hasn't been anyone developed as a fall-back plan. Could have been Asad, but between the two seniors, I think Azhar draws more respect, and a better communicator as well. Ideally, Azhar should have been dropped from squad, but as he is picked, he is made Captain which is likely to cost PAK. I would have made Haris Captain for Test, and drop Azhar from squad.

2 - Completely disagree. That 6-99 is a statistical anomaly. Faheem Ashraf doesn't merit a selection in Test squad, for the sake of picking an all-rounder. Also, you have been bleeding for a "tall" pacer - at 5'9" max, Faheem doesn't serve that purpose either. An all-rounder could have been picked, and I would have picked Amad Butt for that; but not Faheem.

3 - I guess this one is Iftekhar. Partially agree - Iftekhar shouldn't merit the selection in the Test squad. However, I don't think h is picked here as all-rounder, rather a specialist bat, which makes it even worse. I would have picked another batsman, but definitely not Umar Akmal.

4 - Tall fast bowlers have absolutely nothing to offer in Australia, if he doesn't have the skill and pace (Yes, I have read your 50% height theory - something doesn't go with Lindwall, Kapil, Styen, Marshall, Gough....even Hadlee). Last time, Aussies scored over 660 at WACA (the most typical of AUS tracks) against ENG attack that had Craig Overton (6'5"+), Broad (6'5"+), and Anderson (6'2"+) ... that series, Braod went at 48 average and Overton at 38 .... Edil could have been a choice as he is bowling well, but not for his height. Sameen should have been definitely picked over Musa - but poor guy isn't playing even in for his FC teams, means he is not in the focus.

5 - Abbas commands his selection, absolutely no question on that. He had a poor SAF tour not because of his "Height", rather for his fitness. Guy was born as several years old, therefore at prime official age of a fast bowler (29), if he is not fit enough, he'll again go for plenty in AUS. Imran is a poor, poor pick - I saw last round of QeA, just to see him bowling and he was horrible. But, they probably has picked him as the only pacer with some experience in AUS - I won't have picked him, but don't know who are alternatives after Amir, Wahab & Hasan (& Sohail) .... Rahat may be, but not sure

6 - I did write this one in my review, but this is not a fault of Misbah actually. Once those 3 pacers were out of selection scope, Misbah was left with very little. This is a blunder made by PCT's previous pair of Inzi-Arthur who kept playing 1st choice pacers even against ZIM reserves. There is a generation gap, outcome of which is a pace attack with 3 in their "teens", and rest in 30s. Adil or Sameen should have been tried earlier, at least should have been picked for the squad - in any case, Musa doesn't make any sense for AUS tour.

7 - Yasir is a "forced" pick, I guess to avoid criticism. His overall record is so good that, ignoring him wasn't possible. I don't buy much on Shadab's stats in J'burg (no, the conditions are not identical, neither the teams that he'll be bowling or batting against), but he does offer a 2nd option. May be, they could have picked both leggies as no way PAK is going to play 2 spinners at Gabba or Adelaide in a D/N Test. In any case, Shadab isn't ready yet for premier spinner's role in a Test - his best option is the 2nd spinner of a 5 men attack - had Yasir been a SLAO spinner, Shadab would have been definitely picked. Yasir is bowling well recently with very good rhythm (I know his 39+ average in recent season - but I judge cricket by watching, more so for spinners), but his fitness state is horrible - won't last a full Test if PAK batsmen somehow can take the Test to 14th/15th session. Misbah most likely picked Kashif for his economy and won't be surprised if he debuts at one of the Tests.

Over all, I do agree with most points of your post, though don't agree with the personals in many cases - this squad is selected on obligations, not from preference; there are not much left in the tank. After scratching the bottom of the barrel, if you come out with Ehsan Adil, Sameen Gul, Faheem Ashraf or Shadab Khan as a savior of AUS tour - I have to say you are over estimating PAK's talent. Gone are those days ........., come back to 2019. This PAK side has lost 2 of last 3 series in UAE, has made 5th day of a Test like 2 times in last ~ 20 efforts in SENA countries - will do brilliant to do once more in coming series.
 
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[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

Really, you need different teams for a Day Test at the Gabba and a Pink Ball Test at Adelaide.

I would have picked neither Azhar Ali nor Asad Shafiq.

I would not pick a proper spinner at either venue - I’d go with Shadab mainly as a batsman/fielder at 7.

I’d have Amad Butt or Aamer Yamin or Faheem Ashraf as my number 8, yes even if they are short. I just need them to score 20 runs per innings and bowl 12 economical overs in a day.

My three specialist quicks would differ between the two Tests, but would be picked from Shaheen Shah Afridi, Mohammad Abbas, Mohammad Amir (Adelaide only), Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul.
 
Looks like he stole your cookies or something. How many threads are you going to create on the same subject? :najam

The guy just came up with probably the best ever squad, full of promising youngsters, and here you are with your biases still spreading hate. Salute to him to moving our cricket forward, freeing us from the Mickey Arthur era of Sarfraz, Malik and Hafeez.

He will not select Salman Butt, Faheem Ashraf, neither he will or should select Ehsan Adil.

Calm down and deal with the top selections like Naseem Shah. Also, Azhar is our best batsman in Australia, stop with your selective stats.

Rich coming from you. How many threads have you come up with to bash Imad Wasim?

As for "Salute to him to moving our cricket forward, freeing us from the Mickey Arthur era of Sarfraz, Malik and Hafeez". Everyone knows Misbah wanted the latter two in the side but the move was blocked by the PCB, but yes lets give him credit because it fits your narrative.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

Really, you need different teams for a Day Test at the Gabba and a Pink Ball Test at Adelaide.

I would have picked neither Azhar Ali nor Asad Shafiq.

I would not pick a proper spinner at either venue - I’d go with Shadab mainly as a batsman/fielder at 7.

I’d have Amad Butt or Aamer Yamin or Faheem Ashraf as my number 8, yes even if they are short. I just need them to score 20 runs per innings and bowl 12 economical overs in a day.

My three specialist quicks would differ between the two Tests, but would be picked from Shaheen Shah Afridi, Mohammad Abbas, Mohammad Amir (Adelaide only), Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul.


Not sure about the choice of pacers, and a master pacer can/should perform in every condition, but I take that point - though, if I had the option, I'll pick Amir & Shaheen for both Tests and may be two different pacers for the two other spots. Gul or Adil are not tested yet, but definitely better option than IK Sr.. But, I believe more than Misbah, WY is instrumental in the pacers' selection - he had two day's camp prior to selection and after that he had chosen those 5. It could be for two reasons - either IK Sr. had performed exceptionally in the trial, or the other two were even worse (Not sure if they were called either). In any case, it's not Misbah alone.

Your calculation is wrong actually - if you take 3 quicks and an "all-rounder" to bat at 8 for 20 runs and bowl 12 overs in a day, means you are either planning to kill the 3 pacers with 70 overs in a day or risking to bowl 23 overs by the "Batsman, who can bowl spin". It's simple maths - 90 overs a day, to be effective, 3 pacers should bowl max. 60 overs, better 55; "all-rounder to bowl 12 overs at #8" means No. 7 will be the "Spinner on batting merit" will bowl 23 (at least 18) overs - Aussies might score 450 in opening day in either of the tactics. And, none of the 3 "all-rounders" you mentioned are capable of holding a batting spot at 6 or 7, Yamin may be but not sure - I doubt if Faheem is capable of holding bat even at 9.

Azhar and Asad are not choices, rather obligations, if you drop them, who are the alternatives - Umar Akmal, Salman Butt, Fawad Alam, Shehzad.....Mohammad Hafeez? PAK's batting resources are at rock bottom since 1960s - at 35 average, Babar is the premium batsman. By the grace of All-mighty, PCB plays the least number of Tests .... would have been lower than ZIM by now, had Robert Mughabe not intervened, therefore there is hardly any experience in batting barring these two. At 43 & 39 average they are the two top batsmen in squad (Haris averages 40 with few Tests). The mistake is that they have appointed Azhar as Captain, which makes him compulsory for starting XI.

I gave 8.5 to this squad and I'll stick to that - this is what it is there, 1-2 odd changes won't make much of a difference.
 
While we have right to criticize selections I think people have been too early to judge new team management. Let the Australian tour finish and than it would be better to judge what went wrong, what went well and what could have been done to improve or improve further. At the moment it has just been one tour where Pak hosted Srl and did decently in ODIs and poorly in T20s.

I dont remember so many threads when Mickey selected 3 pacers against Srl when they had 3 spinners in their playing 11 and Pak lost 0-2. This team selection definitely isnt as bad, yes one can argue that Ehsan Adil could have been their over Imran Khan snr but then again there arent as many big a tactical blunders which we all are used to.

Aus tour hasnt even started and their are already number of threads regarding criticism and disappointments. Just like we develop 100s of strategies in our mind, team management also have a brain and thus they think too regarding how they want team to achieve success. So let them execute their thoughts and only than an honest critique based upon the outcome can be performed.
 
Not sure about the choice of pacers, and a master pacer can/should perform in every condition, but I take that point - though, if I had the option, I'll pick Amir & Shaheen for both Tests and may be two different pacers for the two other spots. Gul or Adil are not tested yet, but definitely better option than IK Sr.. But, I believe more than Misbah, WY is instrumental in the pacers' selection - he had two day's camp prior to selection and after that he had chosen those 5. It could be for two reasons - either IK Sr. had performed exceptionally in the trial, or the other two were even worse (Not sure if they were called either). In any case, it's not Misbah alone.

Your calculation is wrong actually - if you take 3 quicks and an "all-rounder" to bat at 8 for 20 runs and bowl 12 overs in a day, means you are either planning to kill the 3 pacers with 70 overs in a day or risking to bowl 23 overs by the "Batsman, who can bowl spin". It's simple maths - 90 overs a day, to be effective, 3 pacers should bowl max. 60 overs, better 55; "all-rounder to bowl 12 overs at #8" means No. 7 will be the "Spinner on batting merit" will bowl 23 (at least 18) overs - Aussies might score 450 in opening day in either of the tactics. And, none of the 3 "all-rounders" you mentioned are capable of holding a batting spot at 6 or 7, Yamin may be but not sure - I doubt if Faheem is capable of holding bat even at 9.

Azhar and Asad are not choices, rather obligations, if you drop them, who are the alternatives - Umar Akmal, Salman Butt, Fawad Alam, Shehzad.....Mohammad Hafeez? PAK's batting resources are at rock bottom since 1960s - at 35 average, Babar is the premium batsman. By the grace of All-mighty, PCB plays the least number of Tests .... would have been lower than ZIM by now, had Robert Mughabe not intervened, therefore there is hardly any experience in batting barring these two. At 43 & 39 average they are the two top batsmen in squad (Haris averages 40 with few Tests). The mistake is that they have appointed Azhar as Captain, which makes him compulsory for starting XI.

I gave 8.5 to this squad and I'll stick to that - this is what it is there, 1-2 odd changes won't make much of a difference.

I think Pakistan has been historically playing 6-9 tests per year like NZ and SA with few exceptions where may be more tests were played on occasions so I dont think much has changed regarding the overall number but yes rather than 3 match series the focus has been to play 2 match series.

Though the number of tests played by India have gone up and are now matching Aus and Eng which might also have increased few tests per year.
 
I think Pakistan has been historically playing 6-9 tests per year like NZ and SA with few exceptions where may be more tests were played on occasions so I dont think much has changed regarding the overall number but yes rather than 3 match series the focus has been to play 2 match series.

Though the number of tests played by India have gone up and are now matching Aus and Eng which might also have increased few tests per year.

PAK is the first established team that accepted to play a 2 Test Ashes warmer as early as 2001, with that team. And, PCB is the first board to start arranging 2 Tests home series when there was no isolation, neither extreme financial constrains - SAF 2002, NZ 2003, SAF 2007, WIN 2002, AUS 2010 (in UK) ..... that should be indicative enough.

There is a minimum standard set by majors cricket nations and they won't devalue their status, hence you see PAK playing 3 Test series - even then, this year CA has opted to play 3 T20s and 2 Tests - if it was left to PCB, every PAK series would have been a single Test affair by now.
 
PAK is the first established team that accepted to play a 2 Test Ashes warmer as early as 2001, with that team. And, PCB is the first board to start arranging 2 Tests home series when there was no isolation, neither extreme financial constrains - SAF 2002, NZ 2003, SAF 2007, WIN 2002, AUS 2010 (in UK) ..... that should be indicative enough.

There is a minimum standard set by majors cricket nations and they won't devalue their status, hence you see PAK playing 3 Test series - even then, this year CA has opted to play 3 T20s and 2 Tests - if it was left to PCB, every PAK series would have been a single Test affair by now.
Wasim Khan and Ehsan Mani seemed focused on reviving test cricket so that's good to see. Hopefully pakistan will play more tests in future IA.

As for the squad selections by Misbah, it's a good selection but I would do anything to see Asad Shafiq out of the team, fawad Alana ,Saad Ali, would be much better options. But still mostly good team.
 
Point 1 is incorrect .
Azhar Ali has an average of 43 now. So his career average has dropped by 3 from 46. He must be averaging 28 in the last two years, which is poor, no doubt but the way it’s been written by your self is very misleading.
 
Misbah's gameplans for Australia make no sense

So Pakistan is now halfway through the tour of Australia, with the T20i's over and the Tests to come.

The bowler with the best record in Tests in Brisbane is going home today. So too is the bowler most suited to the Pink Ball Greentop at Adelaide.

And so is Shadab Khan.

At this point I must confess to being confused: Misbah's squad doesn't seem to contain the types of player required for the two Tests at Brisbane and Adelaide.

The normal gameplan at both grounds is really simple.

At Brisbane once the red Kookaburra ball is 20 overs old it does nothing for the next 60 overs. Spinners can't get any grip, and the only strategy which works is strangling the scoring rate by rotating tall (at least 6'4) fast bowlers continuously at both ends, bowling absolutely nothing short and just stifling the scoring rate.

Unfortunately Misbah decided that Musa and Imran would be more use than Sameen Gul or Ehsan Adil, so he only has Shaheen Shah Afridi, who will presumably bowl non-stop at both ends.

At Adelaide the gameplan in Day/Night Tests is usually the opposite. In terms of bowling, you'd expect Abbas, Amir and Ehsan Adil to clean up.....but only one of them is in the squad.

But above all, Adelaide is the Test where you have to bowl in the hour straight after Dinner - even if you forfeit an innings to do so. Which means that you have to understand that you should not bat for more than 60 overs under ANY circumstances, because if you're not all out you will be declaring at Dinner.

Which means that for Adelaide you need to score at the same rate you would in an ODI - you have to score 4 runs per over to be able to declare on 240 at Dinner.

Misbah is both the Chief Selector and the Head Coach.

Which makes it rather strange that he hasn't given himself the bowlers that he needs for Brisbane or the batsmen he needs for Adelaide.

He has given himself the quicks you'd want to blast a team out at Perth.....but they aren't playing there.

And he has the batsmen and leggie whom you would want at Dubai....but they aren't playing there either.

As for the last T20i. He added yet another slow scoring nudger to the top order. Why?????
 
So Pakistan is now halfway through the tour of Australia, with the T20i's over and the Tests to come.

The bowler with the best record in Tests in Brisbane is going home today. So too is the bowler most suited to the Pink Ball Greentop at Adelaide.

And so is Shadab Khan.

At this point I must confess to being confused: Misbah's squad doesn't seem to contain the types of player required for the two Tests at Brisbane and Adelaide.

The normal gameplan at both grounds is really simple.

At Brisbane once the red Kookaburra ball is 20 overs old it does nothing for the next 60 overs. Spinners can't get any grip, and the only strategy which works is strangling the scoring rate by rotating tall (at least 6'4) fast bowlers continuously at both ends, bowling absolutely nothing short and just stifling the scoring rate.

Unfortunately Misbah decided that Musa and Imran would be more use than Sameen Gul or Ehsan Adil, so he only has Shaheen Shah Afridi, who will presumably bowl non-stop at both ends.

At Adelaide the gameplan in Day/Night Tests is usually the opposite. In terms of bowling, you'd expect Abbas, Amir and Ehsan Adil to clean up.....but only one of them is in the squad.

But above all, Adelaide is the Test where you have to bowl in the hour straight after Dinner - even if you forfeit an innings to do so. Which means that you have to understand that you should not bat for more than 60 overs under ANY circumstances, because if you're not all out you will be declaring at Dinner.

Which means that for Adelaide you need to score at the same rate you would in an ODI - you have to score 4 runs per over to be able to declare on 240 at Dinner.

Misbah is both the Chief Selector and the Head Coach.

Which makes it rather strange that he hasn't given himself the bowlers that he needs for Brisbane or the batsmen he needs for Adelaide.

He has given himself the quicks you'd want to blast a team out at Perth.....but they aren't playing there.

And he has the batsmen and leggie whom you would want at Dubai....but they aren't playing there either.

As for the last T20i. He added yet another slow scoring nudger to the top order. Why?????

Amir has retired from test cricket, nothing will bring him back. Mickey Arthur and the PCB tryed convincing him but he doesn't want to play red ball cricket, and no one can force him.
 
Amir has retired from test cricket, nothing will bring him back. Mickey Arthur and the PCB tryed convincing him but he doesn't want to play red ball cricket, and no one can force him.

Adelaide is a Pink Ball Test, not a Red Ball one, and I have reason to believe that he was willing to play it if asked.

Amir has only retired from Red Ball Tests.
 
Adelaide is a Pink Ball Test, not a Red Ball one, and I have reason to believe that he was willing to play it if asked.

Amir has only retired from Red Ball Tests.

A pink ball test is a test, and he has retired from tests. He doesn't want to play the longer formats as it takes too much toll on his body. Using a pink ball doesn't suddenly put less stress on you back, hips, knees and ankles.
 
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