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Lungi Ngidi ruled out for 12 weeks due to injury, to miss Pakistan series

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Standard Bank Proteas fast bowler, Lungi Ngidi, will be out of action for a minimum of 12 weeks after sustaining a knee injury during the T20 International against Australia last Sunday. The injury makes Ngidi unavailable for the Tshwane Spartans in the ongoing Mzansi Super League (MSL), as well as the upcoming home summer series against Pakistan between December and February next year.

Proteas team manager, Dr Mohammed Moosajee, commented on the injury: “Lungi fell awkwardly while fielding during the T20I against Australia last Sunday. He underwent investigations and further assessments with knee specialists upon his return to South Africa, which revealed a significant ligament injury to the right knee. Due to the significant nature of the injury, he will require a minimum of 12 weeks of rest and rehabilitation to make a successful return to play.”

The Tshwane Spartans will name a replacement for Ngidi in their MSL squad later today.
 
What a shame. I was looking forward to watching quality fast bowling. Watching Ngidi, Rabada and Steyn wreak havoc and bowl in unison is poetry in motion.

Fast bowling is a treat to watch if you're doing it right. Gravely disappointed.
 
Won't make a difference because they still have Rabada, Steyn and Philander who will secure SA yet an another whitewash at home against Pakistan.

Given Pakistan's weakness against left arm spin I wouldn't be surprised if Maharaj runs through this side 3rd/4th innings as well.
 
Won't make a difference because they still have Rabada, Steyn and Philander who will secure SA yet an another whitewash at home against Pakistan.

Given Pakistan's weakness against left arm spin I wouldn't be surprised if Maharaj runs through this side 3rd/4th innings as well.

so why should we tour then ?should not we already forfeit the tour and give the trophy to SA.
 
Good bowler. Hopes he recovers and gets back to form before WC. SA will need him.
 
Great news for Pakistan.

This series is winnable.

Post-De Villiers, South Africa has a dreadful batting line-up, and the bowling is the weakest it has been for many years, with Philander and Steyn both well down on pace.
 
Great news for Pakistan.

This series is winnable.

Post-De Villiers, South Africa has a dreadful batting line-up, and the bowling is the weakest it has been for many years, with Philander and Steyn both well down on pace.

Did you see Steyn's speeds in Australia a few weeks ago? :ibutt Not bad for someone basically easing back into things after being plagued by injuries
 
Steyn,Rabada,Mahraj,and Philander will still cause us problems. Don't understand why he played that T20 match.
 
Typo

Great news for Pakistan.

This series is winnable.

Post-De Villiers, South Africa has a dreadful batting line-up, and the bowling is the weakest it has been for many years, with Philander and Steyn both well down on pace.

Talk about Pakistan, about our batsmen
 
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With Steyn back, I don't think he would have been in the XI. Steyn, Philander, Rabada and Mahraj would be the first choice attack.
 
He was covering one non white quota on playing merit, therefore it’ll cost them more than his individual contribution- now, I belive Andile Pelu....., is going to play all 3 Tests.
 
Great news for Pakistan.

This series is winnable.

Post-De Villiers, South Africa has a dreadful batting line-up, and the bowling is the weakest it has been for many years, with Philander and Steyn both well down on pace.

Philander has always been a 75-80 mph bowler with a few deliveries being at a better pace. He relies on accuracy, control of length and seam. From what I've seen he has not lost any of that.

Yes it's fair to say steyn is notthe bowler he was many, many years ago and is always an injury worry these days but he is still potent. Add in Rabada as one of the very best pace bowlers on the planet, with maharaj as spinner and they have a very good bowling line up.

I think they will sweep Pakistan across the board but the batting is indeed at a weak point so Pakistan have an ever so slight chance.
 
If loss for SA.

Steyn is washedup.Philander is still decent.

The only real threat is Rabada and that chinaman spinner.

If Pak batting can score over 250 consistently, they will win this.
 
SA fast bowling department still formidable. I'd still say if Pakistan score 250+ on average then we could compete.
 
So is this gonna be South Africa Z team?
Yes.

AB De Villiers and Morne Morkel and Kyle Abbott have retired due to racial quotas.

The batting is as fragile as Pakistan’s.

The bowling relies on two veteran medium pacers.

They lost at home to England not that long ago.

The problem is, Pakistan’s batting is so awful that they need conditions like India got ten months ago - green result wickets on which 220 is a match winning innings score.

And Pakistan would rely upon Shadab, Faheem and Amir to score 1/3 of the runs because the specialist batters will be dismissed while the Kookaburra ball is still shiny.
 
Yes.

AB De Villiers and Morne Morkel and Kyle Abbott have retired due to racial quotas.

The batting is as fragile as Pakistan’s.

The bowling relies on two veteran medium pacers.

They lost at home to England not that long ago.

The problem is, Pakistan’s batting is so awful that they need conditions like India got ten months ago - green result wickets on which 220 is a match winning innings score.

And Pakistan would rely upon Shadab, Faheem and Amir to score 1/3 of the runs because the specialist batters will be dismissed while the Kookaburra ball is still shiny.

You say Pakistan batting is awful but you also say you need green wickets. Why? Pak batsmen would bundle up for less than 50. Pak's bowling isn't better than Indians in the tests either.
 
Yes.

AB De Villiers and Morne Morkel and Kyle Abbott have retired due to racial quotas.

The batting is as fragile as Pakistan’s.

The bowling relies on two veteran medium pacers.

They lost at home to England not that long ago.

The problem is, Pakistan’s batting is so awful that they need conditions like India got ten months ago - green result wickets on which 220 is a match winning innings score.

And Pakistan would rely upon Shadab, Faheem and Amir to score 1/3 of the runs because the specialist batters will be dismissed while the Kookaburra ball is still shiny.

There is no proof that Shadab ,Faheem,and Amir can score 1/3 of our runs.

Your English mentality of setting up a test side won't work for everyone.
 
Pakistan can certainly win this series. The bowling attack is fantastic with Abbas, Amir, Hassan, Junaid, Shaheen, Hamza, Faheem, Shah and Shadab all in contention. The batting, although inexperienced and prone to collapse, is also full of talented, promising players with Imam, Fakhar, Haris, Babar, Usman and Saud all capable of scoring against the best attacks.

A closely fought, 2-1 win would be huge for these young players and I really hope they accomplish it.
 
There is no proof that Shadab ,Faheem,and Amir can score 1/3 of our runs.

Your English mentality of setting up a test side won't work for everyone.

How hard is to score 1/3 of the runs of a Pakistani batting lineup?

50 from top 6 and 25 from the tail makes it 1/3. Junaids is expecting too much from our top 6 who are not able to score at home against a debutant spinner.
 
If loss for SA.

Steyn is washedup.Philander is still decent.

The only real threat is Rabada and that chinaman spinner.

If Pak batting can score over 250 consistently, they will win this.

Chinaman spinner?

If you are talking about Maharaj, I think he is a left arm orthodox spinner.
 
Pakistan can certainly win this series. The bowling attack is fantastic with Abbas, Amir, Hassan, Junaid, Shaheen, Hamza, Faheem, Shah and Shadab all in contention. The batting, although inexperienced and prone to collapse, is also full of talented, promising players with Imam, Fakhar, Haris, Babar, Usman and Saud all capable of scoring against the best attacks.

A closely fought, 2-1 win would be huge for these young players and I really hope they accomplish it.

Let's be realistic. If we had a good team we would have a shot. As it is we have an absolute disaster of a batting line up.

I'm desperate to see us win in SA and Australia but it's not happening this time.
 
Another 6 or 7 of their pacers need to get injured and it might be an even contest :)
 
How hard is to score 1/3 of the runs of a Pakistani batting lineup?

50 from top 6 and 25 from the tail makes it 1/3. Junaids is expecting too much from our top 6 who are not able to score at home against a debutant spinner.


If we are aiming for 250ish in SA, you really expect Faheem,Shadab ,and Amir to get 80 runs against Rabada,Philander ,Mahraj,and Steyn ? :))

Maybe once they could do it but wouldn't expect it on a consistent basis.
 
If we are aiming for 250ish in SA, you really expect Faheem,Shadab ,and Amir to get 80 runs against Rabada,Philander ,Mahraj,and Steyn ? :))

Maybe once they could do it but wouldn't expect it on a consistent basis.

No, I don't but I too am saying the same thing. They can only make 1/3 of a very small total.

Do you really think our batsmen can score 250 against South Africa?
 
MAHaraj is ordinary. I was talking about Tabraiz shamsi. He can bother Pak batsmen if he plays.

Maharaj has pretty good stats and that too playing mostly in South Africa and given that he is a left arm off spinner like Rangana Herath and Ajaz Patel he might be effective.

BTW I don't think Shamsi plays Test Cricket unless in Asia.
 
No, I don't but I too am saying the same thing. They can only make 1/3 of a very small total.

Do you really think our batsmen can score 250 against South Africa?

Okay .

On bowling friendly pitches we will struggle. On flat pitches we won't score enough. Tough tour awaits.
 
On a serous note, pak should play this 11.

Fakhar
Imam/ Azhar (both should not play)
Haris
Babar (promote him up the order)
Asad
Saad (debut him in the 3rd test against NZ)
Sarfraz + *
Amir
Hassan
Shaheen
Abbas

MA's to share the new ball.
HA and SA, first and second change.

Haris, the lone spinner.
 
On a serous note, pak should play this 11.

Fakhar
Imam/ Azhar (both should not play)
Haris
Babar (promote him up the order)
Asad
Saad (debut him in the 3rd test against NZ)
Sarfraz + *
Amir
Hassan
Shaheen
Abbas

MA's to share the new ball.
HA and SA, first and second change.

Haris, the lone spinner.

Faheem Ashraf wouldn't be useful for SA tour?
 
Faheem Ashraf wouldn't be useful for SA tour?

He could be but, pak's best chance is to bowl SA out for below par score "TWICE, TWICE" in a match.

Faheem's 20 runs may add to the total but, won't win you the match. Whereas, if Shaheen gets going, he could easily be ur match winner.

Saad Ali and Shaheen Afridi should debut in the 3rd test against NZ.
 
Rabada and Philander are ATG bowlers in SA, and while I am not sure of Steyn's fitness, but if he plays whole series, this will still be an excellent bowling attack and more than enough for Pakistan in SA conditions.

However, SA batting is weak and they don't have de Villiers which will be a big miss. If openers, de Kock and Faf show up then they will be a team hard to get beaten even in a single match.
 
He could be but, pak's best chance is to bowl SA out for below par score "TWICE, TWICE" in a match.

Faheem's 20 runs may add to the total but, won't win you the match. Whereas, if Shaheen gets going, he could easily be ur match winner.

Saad Ali and Shaheen Afridi should debut in the 3rd test against NZ.

Fair enough. I figured that if Pakistan are more than half their side down for a lowish total (which is most likely gonna happen at any innings), Faheem could provide a good counter attack. Maybe not 20, but perhaps a quick-fire 50-60 runs to have some sort of respectable total on the board.

Regarding Saad and Shaheen yes I agree they should debut in the 3rd test. I get the feeling, however, that if Saad doesn't perform then Pak will go with Faheem in the 1st test in SA; otherwise, yes I can see Saad playing instead.
 
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