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M Kaif slams media outlet for querying whether India cricket team needs a caste-based quota system

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Former India cricket Mohammad Kaif has slammed a report by a media outlet which carries analysis by a study which questions the number of SC/ST’s to have played for India since attainting Test status. In the report by The Wire, it says that since India started playing Test cricket, there have been only four capped players from Scheduled Castes (SC) and Scheduled Tribes (ST) out of the 290 players who have played for India where the number should have been 70 in accordance with the population. In reply to the tweet sharing the story, Kaif queried, “How many prime time journalists are SC or ST or for that matter how many senior editors in your organisation are SC or ST. Sports is perhaps one field which has successfully broken barriers of caste, players play with inclusiveness but then we have such journalism to spread hatred.”

The article also mentions how players coming from Dalit and Muslim communities have contributed as bowlers. “Three of the four Dalit Indian Test cricketers have been pace bowling all-rounders; five of the eight Muslims to have debuted for India in Tests in this millennium were pace bowlers; as many as 27 Muslims to have played in the IPL are also bowlers, while another 8 are all-rounders, as opposed to only 8 batsmen,” the study mentions.

The article also draws comparisons with South African cricket. They introduced a quota system where a minimum of six black cricketers must be included in South Africa’s national team to counter the under-representation of minority players across all levels of the game.

The study also highlights the drop in share of players from multiple cities to account for different backgrounds. “In 1970s-80s, about half of the Indian Test cricket team hailed from merely six cities: Mumbai, Chennai, Delhi, Bangalore, Hyderabad and Kolkata. However, the share of these six cities has steadily declined to less than 40% in recent years,” says the report.

Kaif recently announced his retirement from all forms of cricket in a video message posted on his official Twitter handle. “I played a role in India’s historic win in the Natwest trophy final 16 years back. This is the reason I am calling it a day on July 13. I want to thank one and all who have supported me in this journey,” Kaif said in the video message.

In another tweet that Kaif made, he wrote, “When I started playing Cricket,the dream was to play in the India Cap one day. Have been very fortunate to step on to the field & represent my country on 190 days of my life. Today is an apt day for me to announce my retirement from all competitive Cricket. Thank you everyone ����.”

The right-handed batsman was an integral part of the Indian team that won the 2002 Natwest Trophy in England. He scored an unbeaten 87 in the final to help India chased down a target of 326 runs at Lord’s.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...report-minority-quota-system-cricket-5281734/

Thanks god for players like him..we don't want reservation creeping into Cricket now,especially when next general election is coming soon.
 
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Also his reply is brilliant.We always hear from media or certain organization why Dalits/Minorities not get representation in certain area but they never ask how much representation their own organization have for backward classes.
 
Four players shows that racism is ongoing.

In contrast, there have been more Hindus for Pakistan even though they're just 2% of the population.
 
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Four players shows that racism is ongoing.

In contrast, there have been more Hindus for Pakistan even though they're just 2% of the population.


No it doesn’t show racism. It only shows that till 2000 cricket was concentrated in big cities and an average person didn’t think it as a career.

In last 10-15 years so many players have come out from smaller cities and humble backgrounds. Even if they don’t make it to international level, they earn enough from playing Domestic( Ranji, Duleep, Irani trophy etc) and of course IPL.

We don’t need reservations in Sports. If you are good enough you will be selected. Don’t want SA model in India.

As for your example- Did those hindus play for Pakistan just because they were hindus, even if not good enough? And all I could think of is Danish Kaneria. (Just googled and found out that there was one more guy- Anil Dalpat)
 
No it doesn’t show racism. It only shows that till 2000 cricket was concentrated in big cities and an average person didn’t think it as a career.

In last 10-15 years so many players have come out from smaller cities and humble backgrounds. Even if they don’t make it to international level, they earn enough from playing Domestic( Ranji, Duleep, Irani trophy etc) and of course IPL.

We don’t need reservations in Sports. If you are good enough you will be selected. Don’t want SA model in India.

As for your example- Did those hindus play for Pakistan just because they were hindus, even if not good enough? And all I could think of is Danish Kaneria. (Just googled and found out that there was one more guy- Anil Dalpat)

Since India has 10 times the population, we need to show more than 0.4, and we're 5 times over that going by you :))
 
Since India has 10 times the population, we need to show more than 0.4, and we're 5 times over that going by you :))

Why do you need to show that in the first place?

We have/had many Muslim, Sikh, Parsi, Christian players. Though we are a secular country but its Hindu majority country.

Your claim was- it’s racism whereas it’s anything but racism.

Professional cricket is(or used to be) a costly affair unlike football etc. So unfortunately the lower or poor class of society couldn’t think or afford the luxury of making career in Cricket where there used to be very limited opportunities.

I’m all for social and economical upliftment through reservations(not the caste or religion based) in certain areas like education, some jobs etc but sports is not one of them.
 
Does anyone take thewire seriously? Its a joke of a website with little credibility. Basically a propoganda website.
 
Does anyone take thewire seriously? Its a joke of a website with little credibility. Basically a propoganda website.

The Wire is left wing news paper whose editor is American citizen and anti BJP. Recently they posted a article quoting COngress which talks about Rafael deal,at the end author says BJP now has to prove congress claims as wrong otherwise it will become another Bofors.Not sure how author forgot journalism is about finding truth by themselves rather than randomly quoting some one and throwing accusations.
 
The wire wont ask how many muslim captains we had.

Kaif's reply was fitting though asking Wire how many of its editors/journalists are SC/SCT.Same question should be asked about any organization which simply cries racism/discrimination how exactly they run their own organizations.
 
Here we see the Indian reaction to racism, ask people of Schedule Castes to shut up and make him force his company to have more Schedule Castes.
 
Here we see the Indian reaction to racism, ask people of Schedule Castes to shut up and make him force his company to have more Schedule Castes.

I guess some people may have thought there is an issue but then you check rankings India is Top in tests,close second in ODI and T20 and then obviously it will dawn on them Merit is really great.

By the way getting reservation in cricket is the least concern for SC/ST or poor people right now.
 
Here we see the Indian reaction to racism, ask people of Schedule Castes to shut up and make him force his company to have more Schedule Castes.

The President of India is a SC. The PM of India is a backward caste.
 
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The Wire is left wing news paper whose editor is American citizen and anti BJP. Recently they posted a article quoting COngress which talks about Rafael deal,at the end author says BJP now has to prove congress claims as wrong otherwise it will become another Bofors.Not sure how author forgot journalism is about finding truth by themselves rather than randomly quoting some one and throwing accusations.

Its not left wing. Its Naxal.
 
There are 300 millions Dalits/Adivasis in India. That's nearly 25%/one-fourth of the total population, so it's not even a "minority" in the formal sense. We're not talking of Parsis, who are 0.005% or around, but who in fact did produce more Test cricketers than these two populations : don't know the exact numbers about the Adivasis, but apparently out of the nearly 300 Test players of India, only 4 were Dalits, while 12 were Parsis (most famous being Farokh Engineer).

Even in Pak cricket we had a famous Dalit cricketer : Mohammad Yousuf, a Chura/Balmiki, which of course doesn't change the on-ground situation for the Christians of Pak Punjab, 95% of them being Dalits (Chura's/Balmiki's) and suffering from bonded labor/landlords for this reason (like the Hindus of Sindh).

Quota system/reservations are merely cosmetic, work should be done at grassroots level and in the long term.
 
There are 300 millions Dalits/Adivasis in India. That's nearly 25%/one-fourth of the total population, so it's not even a "minority" in the formal sense. We're not talking of Parsis, who are 0.005% or around, but who in fact did produce more Test cricketers than these two populations : don't know the exact numbers about the Adivasis, but apparently out of the nearly 300 Test players of India, only 4 were Dalits, while 12 were Parsis (most famous being Farokh Engineer).

Even in Pak cricket we had a famous Dalit cricketer : Mohammad Yousuf, a Chura/Balmiki, which of course doesn't change the on-ground situation for the Christians of Pak Punjab, 95% of them being Dalits (Chura's/Balmiki's) and suffering from bonded labor/landlords for this reason (like the Hindus of Sindh).

Quota system/reservations are merely cosmetic, work should be done at grassroots level and in the long term.

Definitely, but it's easier to ask minorites why there aren't more minorities in their company for some
 
Definitely, but it's easier to ask minorites why there aren't more minorities in their company for some

Esp. "minorities" like Dalits/Adivasis : with around 300 millions combined peoples (+200 millions for Dalits, around 80-90 millions for Adivasis), if they were a country, they'd have the 4th largest pop in the world, after China/India/US, in that order.

So the fact that some 50 000 odd Parsis produced more Test cricketers is intriguing.

The President of India is a SC. The PM of India is a backward caste.

Modi belongs to an OBC, it's a category about socio economically insecure castes but not necessarily "lower castes". You have dozens of Brahmin and Kshatriya OBCs, and I think Modi himself is a Vaishya.

Also, president Narayanan (under Gujral/Vajpayee) was a Dalit as well, and repeatedly tried to bring attention to the plight of Dalits/Adivasis, without much result - if anything, it went worse for these dowtrodden communities since the BJP/Hindutva won more power (showcasing Kovind as President is populism, like Congress showcased Meira Kumar against him.)

Ceremonial roles will not change the on-ground situation anyway.
 
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Since India has 10 times the population, we need to show more than 0.4, and we're 5 times over that going by you :))

What stupid logic. More population is not an advantage but a liability after a threshold. countries with less population have greater chance in doing well in sports.
 
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