Martin Guptill vs Rohit Sharma vs David Warner - Who is the best opener in ODIs?

[Hitman]

Warner has won 2 world cups including t20

What has hone track bully won? Kohli was captain when india were number 1 for 5 years in tests but again rohit failed in the wtc finals.

Darren Lehmann has won 2 ODI World Cups. How many did FTB Saeed Anwar win for his team?

 

[Front Foot Pull]

Let's talk when he ACTUALLY SMASHES a big team in semis or finals. He hasn't done squat in odi world cups in a ko game. Let's not overrate a flat track bully.

If he helps india in a Ko this time then we will have a discussion about how great he is

Yes and nobody gives a toss about bilaterals. Performing in the actual world cup is the only thing that matters. He hasn't so far. Let's see if he does this year for India.

Smith is more clutch than him in odi and smith isn't even a good odi player lol.

Gambir played a greater knock than rohit ever did In odi.

You are entitled to have your opinion, but what matters is the stats and what majority of the cricket fans, critics think.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

He is bad in Ko regardless. Mental midget number 1. Home track bully. Look at his test stats rofl.

70 at home and only 33 away.

Test average away from home
Rohit - 34.5
Warner - 31.5

 

[jnaveen1980]

You are entitled to have your opinion, but what matters is the stats and what majority of the cricket fans, critics think.

Michael Clarke> Sohaib Akhtar using such stats . That is basically one match where you can get out for whatever reason or fail with the ball for whatever reason. Some random no-talent guy may end up clicking. It is a team game at the end of the day. Doing well in such game is just an icing. Not the cake itself. What is the use of Icing without Cake.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

Warner has won 2 world cups including t20

What has hone track bully won? Kohli was captain when india were number 1 for 5 years in tests but again rohit failed in the wtc finals.

Rohit has also won a T20 WC

 

[kron]

You are entitled to have your opinion, so you can continue your waffling with your cute little filters but what matters is the stats and what majority of the cricket fans, critics think.

You can continue to parade your cute little bilateral stats. What matters is trophies. Indian superstars are obsessed with stats just like their fans lol. No wonder they have won a icc odi event since 2013.
If he helps india actually win this time given how strong indian team is he has zero excuses anyway, then sure you can call him a great and what not.
 

Stats don't tell the whole picture otherwise an average bowler like philander and ashwin would be goats in bowling.

 

[Unbiased-Fan]

Warner was actually a liability in Tests being a bunny of Broad. Even in India he was clueless against Ashwin. Averaging mere 21. Struggled in SL too. I don't rate Rohit as a Test batsman although he has done well in recent times as an opener and on tough turning tracks in India. Warner has some gaping holes in his career. He was not a technical wizard. Viru offered him some wisdom He picked up and had a decent career. He is no Alistair Cook though.

“Sehwag always said to me: ‘What, they have some slips and a gully. Cover is open, mid-wicket is just there and mid-off and mid-on are up, you just play your way and you will get off to a flyer and sit there all day and pick them off,’” Warner recalled.

For now Rohit is nobody in test cricket. IMO He is not even in the top 20 indian test batsman of all time.
Warner is already all time great opener for Australia with close to 10k test runs, and a triple ton along with so many daddy hundreds.

 

[kron]

Rohit has also won a T20 WC but from your above posts, i am not suprised with your lack of knowledge.

Since 2013. He won in 2007 when nobody even took t20 seriously.

What has he achived in ko stages since 2007 in t20? Has he helped india win a title since then? How many kos did he perform in?

Flat track bully at his finest.

I am very much aware about your limited thinking skills here and I knew you would pull out some t20 wc win 20 years ago. Since then he has achieved a grand total of zero in t20. How many chances has he had?

 

[kron]

Darren Lehmann has won 2 ODI World Cups. How many did FTB Saeed Anwar win for his team?

Yea because comparing Lehman to Anwar equates to Warner vs nohit lol.

Different positions first of all. Fantastic logic.

 

[kron]

For now Rohit is nobody in test cricket. IMO He is not even in the top 20 indian test batsman of all time.
Warner is already all time great opener for Australia with close to 10k test runs, and a triple ton along with so many daddy hundreds.

Average of 75 at home and 33 away. 33 lol. 33.

This is an ATG. Yea I am thinking not.

 

[kron]

Indian fans and their stat obsession lol. Filter stats to boast about their overrated flat track fodder bullies. Get real. Winning the tournament is what matters. Winners are remembered. Not losers.

 

[Unbiased-Fan]

Average of 75 at home and 33 away. 33 lol. 33.

This is an ATG. Yea I am thinking not.

*ATG for Australia

 

[Saanji]

Let's talk when he ACTUALLY SMASHES a big team in semis or finals. He hasn't done squat in odi world cups in a ko game. Let's not overrate a flat track bully.

If he helps india in a Ko this time then we will have a discussion about how great he is

Yes and nobody gives a toss about bilaterals. Performing in the actual world cup is the only thing that matters. He hasn't so far. Let's see if he does this year for India.

Smith is more clutch than him in odi and smith isn't even a good odi player lol.

Gambir played a greater knock than rohit ever did In odi.

Rohit hasn't performed in world cups.. hmm ok ok

 

[kron]

Rohit hasn't performed in world cups.. hmm ok ok

Yea in ko. Has he? In odi? He has? Really? When? Like in 2019?

 

[Saanji]

Yea in ko. Has he? In odi? He has? Really? When? Like in 2019?

He has played 3 knock outs in world cups and has 1 century.
172 runs at an average of 57.33. One match winning innings.. one ok start and one failure..

 

[Hitman]

Yea because comparing Lehman to Anwar equates to Warner vs nohit lol.

Different positions first of all. Fantastic logic.

Different positions, but same role, batting. Lehamann used to roll his arms over, but he was still a specialist batsman. Lehmann won 2 ODI World Cups for his team, Anwar won zilch.

Now since you conveniently played the card of them batting in different positions, let me bring in the example of a middle order batsman by the name of Brian Lara. Lara played 5 WC's for his team wining zilch, Lehmann played 2 WC's for his team winning both of them.

Now what?

 

[kron]

Different positions, but same role, batting. Lehamann used to roll his arms over, but he was still a specialist batsman. Lehmann won 2 ODI World Cups for his team, Anwar won zilch.

Now since you conveniently played the card of them batting in different positions, let me bring in the example of a middle order batsman by the name of Brian Lara. Lara played 5 WC's for his team wining zilch, Lehmann played 2 WC's for his team winning both of them.

Now what?

Lara scored in ko games for his country? Yes or no?
Lehman barely even gets to bat for his country

Obviously Lara is the better player. He has no holes in his game apart from the odd bouncer.

Warner vs rohit is completely different. They are literally h2h and we're competiting with each other in their primes for equally strong quality teams.

Lara played for a. Much weaker West Indian side compared to Lehman. That needs to be accounted for.

Again. A silly pointless comparison.

 

[kron]

He has played 3 knock outs in world cups and has 1 century.
172 runs at an average of 57.33. One match winning innings.. one ok start and one failure..

Talking strictly about odi.

In odi kos he has done nothing since 2013.

 

[kron]

34 vs Australia in World Cup 2015



1 vs New Zealand in WTC 2021

30 vs New Zealand in WTC 2021

27 vs England in T20 World Cup 2022

15 vs Australia in WTC 2023


thats been his record in semis or finals in tests and odi.

even if you include champions trophy, exclude the 123 not out he fails again even in champion trophy since 2012. ​

 

[Hitman]

Lara scored in ko games for his country? Yes or no?
Lehman barely even gets to bat for his country

Obviously Lara is the better player. He has no holes in his game apart from the odd bouncer.

Warner vs rohit is completely different. They are literally h2h and we're competiting with each other in their primes for equally strong quality teams.

Lara played for a. Much weaker West Indian side compared to Lehman. That needs to be accounted for.

Again. A silly pointless comparison.

You were the ones taking about World Cup victories when it came to Warner. Now since you have nothing in your arsenal, you go back to other parameters.

 

[Saanji]

Talking strictly about odi.

In odi kos he has done nothing since 2013.

??? Where do you check the stats.
He played qf in 2015 and sf in 2015
And sf in 2019 so far. And that's where my stats are from

 

[Saanji]

34 vs Australia in World Cup 2015



1 vs New Zealand in WTC 2021

30 vs New Zealand in WTC 2021

27 vs England in T20 World Cup 2022

15 vs Australia in WTC 2023


thats been his record in semis or finals in tests and odi.

even if you include champions trophy, exclude the 123 not out he fails again even in champion trophy since 2012. ​

Quarter final is not a knock out .. hmm ok

 

[kron]

You were the ones taking about World Cup victories when it came to Warner. Now since you have nothing in your arsenal, you go back to other parameters.

Warner not only averages similar to no hit. He also helped his team win the world cup In 2015. For me nohit needs to perform in ko to be equal or better than Warner. He hasn't yet. Still searching.

It's not just world cup victory that matters. Performance in ko is very Important and overall skillset ofcourse. All true greats performed in ko stages of an icc odi event.
Champions trophy is not of high importance like the world cup. Rohit has failed to deliver so far. If he does this time then sure.

Also average vs top 4 sides away from home would be a consideration too.

 

[kron]

Quarter final is not a knock out .. hmm ok

Its not if it's against Bangladesh. Qf inflated his stats btw.

 

[kron]

@Saanji take nohits stats out vs Bangladesh and you will be shocker at how poor his ko stats are even if you include champions trophy. Great players are not celebrated for scoring against fodder teams. Big teams and performance against top sides particularly away from home is what matters. Or if the individual actually helps his team win the world cup.

 

[Statpadder Inc]

You can continue to parade your cute little bilateral stats. What matters is trophies. Indian superstars are obsessed with stats just like their fans lol. No wonder they have won a icc odi event since 2013.
If he helps india actually win this time given how strong indian team is he has zero excuses anyway, then sure you can call him a great and what not.
 

Stats don't tell the whole picture otherwise an average bowler like philander and ashwin would be goats in bowling.

Pakistan hasn't won a wc since 1992 and hasn't been in a final since 1999, why do pak fans talk like they are Australia lol

 

[Statpadder Inc]

Indian fans and their stat obsession lol. Filter stats to boast about their overrated flat track fodder bullies. Get real. Winning the tournament is what matters. Winners are remembered. Not losers.

Andrew symonds won multiple world cups, how many did ftb inzamam win. Pakistan's greatest ever odi batsman has an avg of 22 in 5 wcs, so by your logic no pak batsman is great

 

[kron]

Pakistan hasn't won a wc since 1992 and hasn't been in a final since 1999, why do pak fans talk like they are Australia lol

Forget about us. We are not talking about Pakistani batsmen. It's between Warner and rohit.

 

[kron]

Andrew symonds won multiple world cups, how many did ftb inzamam win. Pakistan's greatest ever odi batsman has an avg of 22 in 5 wcs, so by your logic no pak batsman is great

Its not just winning the world cup. Ko performance. Performance vs top 4 sides. Helping the team win the title which inzi did btw.

And overall performance against top 4 sides away from home against full strength attacks not the fodder attacks rohit bashes in bilaterals.

 

[Statpadder Inc]

Its not just winning the world cup. Ko performance. Performance vs top 4 sides. Helping the team win the title which inzi did btw.

And overall performance against top 4 sides away from home against full strength attacks not the fodder attacks rohit bashes in bilaterals.

Inzamam had 0 centuries against Australia and South Africa in odis

 

[kron]

Inzamam had 0 centuries against Australia and South Africa in odis

That's why I don't rate him as high.

Rohit is much better. Different position anyway. Can't compare.

If rohit performs in ko this time for India and helps india win or reach finals (scores crucial runs) then I will put him above Warner.

 

[Statpadder Inc]

Its not just winning the world cup. Ko performance. Performance vs top 4 sides. Helping the team win the title which inzi did btw.

And overall performance against top 4 sides away from home against full strength attacks not the fodder attacks rohit bashes in bilaterals.

Damien martyn and Gilchrist did more in a final than anwar and inzi ever did

 

[Statpadder Inc]

That's why I don't rate him as high.

Rohit is much better. Different position anyway. Can't compare.

If rohit performs in ko this time for India and helps india win or reach finals (scores crucial runs) then I will put him above Warner.

Warner failed in back to back wc semis. His only decent knock was a 40 odd in the final when aus only had to chase 183. The bowling won it for them in final and Smith in semis and quarters. He didn't do anything to help aus win in the knockouts

 

[kron]

Warner failed in back to back wc semis. His only decent knock was a 40 odd in the final when aus only had to chase 183. The bowling won it for them in final and Smith in semis and quarters. He didn't do anything to help aus win in the knockouts

that is true but rohit had 0 and 34 though in 2019 and 2015
we will see this year though. rohit is looking supreme. if he takes india over the last hurdle then absolutely, you can even build a shrine for him.

 

[Statpadder Inc]

that is true but rohit had 0 and 34 though in 2019 and 2015

Both of them have failed in knockouts but rohits overall wc and bilateral record makes him superior to warner

 

[kron]

Both of them have failed in knockouts but rohits overall wc and bilateral record makes him superior to warner

we will find out this year anyway. bilateral record? isnt warner's just as good? and who even put guptill in this convo trolool.

 

[Statpadder Inc]

we will find out this year anyway. bilateral record? isnt warner's just as good? and who even put guptill in this convo trolool.

Nah, warner avg is 45 while rohit is at 49. As a pure opener, rohit is at 50+. Agreed, guptill is nowhere near

 

[kron]

Nah, warner avg is 45 while rohit is at 49. As a pure opener, rohit is at 50+. Agreed, guptill is nowhere near

anyway this year itself it will be decided. rohit can go down as one of the best ever if helps india win wc or if he performs in semi and finals of the world cup.
he is looking ominous.

 

[WengerOut]

First ODIs, then KOs, then strictly ODIs ( then goes on to parade the WTC stats ), then WCs, then Bangladesh dont matter...

Some serious trapeze show going on from the Green brigade