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MCD Election Results 2017 - Delhi Picks BJP Again, Arvind Kejriwal Spurned

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The BJP is leading in 65 of 103 wards in MCD North, 67 of 103 in MCD South and 49 of 63 in MCD East, well over halfway in all three. Overall, out of a total 272 wards, the BJP is leading in 181, AAP in 46 and the Congress in 29 wards.

In each municipality the BJP has bettered last time's performance, up seven wards in MCD North, 12 wards in MCD South and 14 in MCD East. The MCD was split into three municipalities in 2012.

"I thank Delhi's voters for the BJP's win," said BJP chief Amit Shah crediting Prime Minister Narendra Modi's governance for the victory. "The people of Delhi have rejected negative politics, the politics of excuses," Mr Shah said.
"This is an EVM wave not a Modi wave," said AAP's Delhi minister Gopal Rai, alleging that EVMs or electronic voting machines were rigged to help the BJP win the MCD elections. Delhi's Deputy Chief Minister Manish Sisodia said, "BJP's win was impossible without EVM tampering."

The BJP has called AAP a poor loser. "Kejriwal is a drama queen," said the BJP's Shazia Ilmi, a former member of AAP. "Kejriwal thought he would become PM after becoming CM of Delhi. He is losing the election just because of his aggression," said the BJP's Sambit Patra.

For AAP, today's loss means a political wipe-out. Chief Minister Kejriwal's party, which had swept assembly elections in Delhi two years ago, is already reeling from humiliating losses in the Punjab and Goa assembly elections last month.

The Congress had hoped today's results would herald a political revival in Delhi for the party, which did not win a single seat in the Delhi assembly elections in 2015 or a parliament seat the year before.

Ajay Maken said he was quitting as the Congress' Delhi chief and would not hold any party post for a year. He said the Congress was the day's big gainer on vote share, but he had expected to do better. Just ahead of the MCD polls some top Delhi Congress leaders quit the party and joined the BJP as a rebellion bubbled against Mr Maken.

The MCD elections is an important addition to the BJP's list of victories this year in state and local polls across the country. The party has dominated the MCD for a decade and conducted a big campaign to retain control, still smarting at being reduced to just three seats in the Delhi assembly in 2015, as AAP swept 67 of the 70 seats. In the 2014 national election, the BJP had won all seven of Delhi's parliament seats.

In a strategic move the BJP had sought to eliminate all chances of an anti-incumbency sentiment by fielding new faces in 267 wards of the total 272 wards.
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Does PTI acuses Ruling party or Election commission of rigging? i feel AAP & PTI have similar thought process when it comes to Voting.
 
Another striking familiarity between Kejri / AAP and Imran /PTI. First they lose and cry Dhandhli.

Lol@ those who draw comparisons between Forever Struggling Imran and a Winner like Modi.
 
Does PTI acuses Ruling party or Election commission of rigging? i feel AAP & PTI have similar thought process when it comes to Voting.

Except that PTI demanded four constituencies to be investigated, and all four were found to be rigged.

But then again, posters like you who have no knowledge of how different Pakistani democracy is to the legitimate Indian one will open your gob and mouth off.
 
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Except that PTI demanded four constituencies to be investigated, and all four were found to be rigged.

But then again, posters like you who have no knowledge of how different Pakistani democracy is to the legitimate Indian one will open your gob and mouth off.

How flawed do you think is the Pakistani Democracy of present .? - Serious question . . How much power has actually been given to a democratic government since the end of Musharaff's rule .. ?
 
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Does PTI acuses Ruling party or Election commission of rigging? i feel AAP & PTI have similar thought process when it comes to Voting.

PTI has more in common with BJP than with AAP in terms of their politics and supporters.
 
You may say what you want about Modi but he is indisputably the most popular Indian leader in many many years. The masses love him.

As for comparisons with IK - Modi is much more charismatic and wittier than him.
 
PTI has more in common with BJP than with AAP in terms of their politics and supporters.

I thought PMLN has more in common with BJP as both parties have support of radical organizations.
 
I thought PMLN has more in common with BJP as both parties have support of radical organizations.

PML is similar too since they're also in bed with fundos but since all three parties have deep links with fundamentalist organizations, PTI more so than N and BJP more so than both PTI and PML, it's the supporters of these parties that serve as the tiebreaker. PTI's supporter base is a like for like for like replica of BJP's and if you randomly select, say, a million posts on social media and various fora from supporters of all three parties, remove all the names of parties, countries and individuals, you won't be able to tell the BJP supporters from PTI supporters.

PML supporters know their party is a disgrace so they resort to whataboutism when dealing with criticism. The other two refuse to acknowledge any wrongdoing and whether something is right or wrong is decided after the fact, depending on who did it. If it was their party, it's the best thing since sliced bread but if it was another party, there hasn't been a greater crime against humanity since the Holocaust.
 
Kejriwal has done some good things for the poor but overall the expectations which were from him he failed to deliver.. To top that he gives and impression of not knowing how to run the government and cries a lot.. Manish Sisodia is a very astute politician and has done well, now BJP is in power in MCD you will see again workers on strike, open gyms getting stalled etc etc bad times ahead for Delhi people till BJP comes in power in CM elections..
 
What the BJP is doing so well is that every election they contest, they turn it into Modi Vs Your Guy.

The fact is that be it good or bad there is no leader in India who can match Modis larger than life image or popularity, and the poor opposition keep playing into BJPs hands by pushing up their leader as a modi alternative - Rahul Baba for congress, Kejriwal for AAP or Akhilesh, Mayawati in UP.

The only person who I think got this figured out is Nitish Kumar of Bihar, who engineered a grand coalition of parties and thus made it about BJP and not about Modi alone.
 
How flawed do you think is the Pakistani Democracy of present .? - Serious question . . How much power has actually been given to a democratic government since the end of Musharaff's rule .. ?

You have to understand the concept of how it is in Pakistan.

Since Bhutto's death there has been no real democracy. After Zia we have the famous Mehrangate, where ISI gave money to Nawaz and other parties in bribes so they could win against PPP. Rigging is an accepted fact of Pakistani democracy and unlike India it casts a doubt of legitimacy on elections, hence these trolls above guffawing is nothing short of winding people up. Since end of Musharraf there has been an agreement where army handles Pakistan's external affairs and leaves the parties to deal with internal affairs. Zar-b-Azb, CPEC, Karachi clean-up all happened under army. Nawaz is their golden child, a minister under Zia; then campaigned on Zia's slogans, fought an election against PPP with ISI cash in one of the biggest scandals in our history, and aside from Musharraf he has had no real qualms with PA. His own daughter is married to an army captain.

Right now our politics are ''you give me some I'l give you some''. Army knows politicians loot and that information is used to keep them all in line. Imran Khan will never be desirable for PA as he wants checks and balances, which would be unacceptable to them.

Hence the end result is what you get in Pakistan, a sham democracy with two families from the 70s ruling us, mixed in with a occasional coup and a system which maintains the status quo. A system where Benazir left the ownership of a party to her husband in a 'will', a system where the Sharif family now has the next heir, someone with no political nous, in line and a system where the PA accepts these looters as long as their power is not challenged. Everyone is happy but the people suffer.

There is no comparison with India who have proper and legitimate elections.

Also please post more, I have had my fill with Indian wind-ups but every time I see you post its a breath of fresh air.
 
I thought PMLN has more in common with BJP as both parties have support of radical organizations.

Pretty much, PMLN gets elected in the core regions due to right-wing organisations. Indians sometimes criticse Pakistan's banned organisations but most, if not all, are blessed with PMLN's patronage. You'll see them parade around with weapons, jeeps, banners in a lot of rallies before elections.

There is a reason there has and never been an operation in Punjab. Hence I find the Indian-love in of Nawaz extremely confusing. He may have given overtures of peace to India but its pretty much meaningless.
 
AAP did well in the 2014 elections because they focussed on the real issues faced by commoners instead of making it about them vs BJP or Congress.

People in Delhi saw Kejriwal as an anti-corruption crusader and a honest, good governance messiah who could make Delhi a better place to live and work. They placed all their trust in him but he has failed to deliver.

The problem for Kejriwal and AAP is that instead of introspecting on their failures and reviewing their policies, they are living in a fool's paradise: Thinking their charm and charishma is infallible no matter how many mistakes they commit, how they keep on going back on their proclaimed political philosophy, or how many of their ministers and leaders are booked for variety of criminal and civil offences.

However BJP sweeping all the elections worries me a lot.We need a strong opposition for thriving democracy. And sadly for India, there is none right now.

Modi has a larger than life image in eyes of his followers and any dissent against modi or bjp is muzzled by his ardent supporters which seem to be growing in numbers .They don't want to hold modi accountable for anything wrong happening in the country and instead are happy to deflect the blame on 60 years of Congress rule which is a worrying sign for Indian democracy.
 
AAP did well in the 2014 elections because they focussed on the real issues faced by commoners instead of making it about them vs BJP or Congress.

People in Delhi saw Kejriwal as an anti-corruption crusader and a honest, good governance messiah who could make Delhi a better place to live and work. They placed all their trust in him but he has failed to deliver.

The problem for Kejriwal and AAP is that instead of introspecting on their failures and reviewing their policies, they are living in a fool's paradise: Thinking their charm and charishma is infallible no matter how many mistakes they commit, how they keep on going back on their proclaimed political philosophy, or how many of their ministers and leaders are booked for variety of criminal and civil offences.

However BJP sweeping all the elections worries me a lot.We need a strong opposition for thriving democracy. And sadly for India, there is none right now.

Modi has a larger than life image in eyes of his followers and any dissent against modi or bjp is muzzled by his ardent supporters which seem to be growing in numbers .They don't want to hold modi accountable for anything wrong happening in the country and instead are happy to deflect the blame on 60 years of Congress rule which is a worrying sign for Indian democracy.

With the emergence of Modi, most BC's and OBC's are strongly Pro-BJP now. Previously, BJP was only considered Upper Caste and Brahmin party. Now its the Backward Caste people that are ardent BJP followers due to Modi.

BC's and OBC's form over 40% of population in most areas of the country.
 
Elections in India and first thing that is discussed is how PTI is similar to some party in India :facepalm:



This obsession with us is crazy
 
What the BJP is doing so well is that every election they contest, they turn it into Modi Vs Your Guy.

The fact is that be it good or bad there is no leader in India who can match Modis larger than life image or popularity, and the poor opposition keep playing into BJPs hands by pushing up their leader as a modi alternative - Rahul Baba for congress, Kejriwal for AAP or Akhilesh, Mayawati in UP.

The only person who I think got this figured out is Nitish Kumar of Bihar, who engineered a grand coalition of parties and thus made it about BJP and not about Modi alone.

Its not BJP turning Modi vs You , it's opposition only doing this relentless attacks against Modi.Do you forgot all CBI raid on his Secratary?

Regarding Nitish kumar its more like a last ditch desperate attempt,he never won any elections for his party alone so always need a ally.This coupled with BJP's complacency and not involving local level leaders got gatbhandhan big win.
 
Kejri and the AAP guys were whining about the voting machines being tampered with during the Punjab elections too - this despite the BJP and the Akalis getting slaughtered at the polls there. Are we to believe that the BJP rigged the voting in favour of Amirinder Singh and the Congress lol?
 
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You have to understand the concept of how it is in Pakistan.

Since Bhutto's death there has been no real democracy. After Zia we have the famous Mehrangate, where ISI gave money to Nawaz and other parties in bribes so they could win against PPP. Rigging is an accepted fact of Pakistani democracy and unlike India it casts a doubt of legitimacy on elections, hence these trolls above guffawing is nothing short of winding people up. Since end of Musharraf there has been an agreement where army handles Pakistan's external affairs and leaves the parties to deal with internal affairs. Zar-b-Azb, CPEC, Karachi clean-up all happened under army. Nawaz is their golden child, a minister under Zia; then campaigned on Zia's slogans, fought an election against PPP with ISI cash in one of the biggest scandals in our history, and aside from Musharraf he has had no real qualms with PA. His own daughter is married to an army captain.

Right now our politics are ''you give me some I'l give you some''. Army knows politicians loot and that information is used to keep them all in line. Imran Khan will never be desirable for PA as he wants checks and balances, which would be unacceptable to them.

Hence the end result is what you get in Pakistan, a sham democracy with two families from the 70s ruling us, mixed in with a occasional coup and a system which maintains the status quo. A system where Benazir left the ownership of a party to her husband in a 'will', a system where the Sharif family now has the next heir, someone with no political nous, in line and a system where the PA accepts these looters as long as their power is not challenged. Everyone is happy but the people suffer.

There is no comparison with India who have proper and legitimate elections.

Also please post more, I have had my fill with Indian wind-ups but every time I see you post its a breath of fresh air.

Many India have a positive veiw on Miyan Nawaz because in our perception, it was during the 1st Nawaz government that we had Vajpayee and the BJP government going on the "Bus Diplomacy" tour and it is generally seen as the point where India and Pakistan had come the closest to peace. Musharaff is seen as the scheming villain who derailed everything in his coup.
 
Its not BJP turning Modi vs You , it's opposition only doing this relentless attacks against Modi.Do you forgot all CBI raid on his Secratary?

Regarding Nitish kumar its more like a last ditch desperate attempt,he never won any elections for his party alone so always need a ally.This coupled with BJP's complacency and not involving local level leaders got gatbhandhan big win.

Its not just the opposition. The BJP always tries to make it about Modi alone. How else do you think BJP gained so much of power in states where it has negligible presence for so long ?

Do you know how BJP won a Legislative seat for the first time in Kerala, or how the almost doubled their vote and win percentage in the local body polls..? Especially in states where the BJP is traditionally weaker, they always push every election as a referendum on Modi.

Nithish Kumar has always been a very shrewd politician. His social engineering was responsible for him retaining power in Bihar for so many years. It was solid political strategy, and not just about BJP being overconfident .
 
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Many India have a positive veiw on Miyan Nawaz because in our perception, it was during the 1st Nawaz government that we had Vajpayee and the BJP government going on the "Bus Diplomacy" tour and it is generally seen as the point where India and Pakistan had come the closest to peace. Musharaff is seen as the scheming villain who derailed everything in his coup.

Musharraf almost got the Agra deal done and then a permanent deal in 2006 (according to our ex FM). The four 'Musharaf points', all online, were reasonable to both sides. The latter was derailed due to him being deposed and then Mumbai happened and the entire thing has been in the back-burner since. While Indians might have that reason to like Nawaz, overall it makes no sense. Whenever Indians accuse abc-xyz Pakistani organisations of being terrorists they should remember all of them are linked and in many cases openly allied to PMLN. Come election time you'll see a lot of their people parading in guns during rallies or their faces plastered on posters. Nawaz was granted asylum by Saudis and loved by the Wahabis, hence its no surprise.
 
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Musharraf almost got the Agra deal done and then a permanent deal in 2006 (according to our ex FM). The four 'Musharaf points', all online, were reasonable to both sides. The latter was derailed due to him being deposed and then Mumbai happened and the entire thing has been in the back-burner since. While Indians might have that reason to like Nawaz, overall it makes no sense. Whenever Indians accuse abc-xyz Pakistani organisations of being terrorists they should remember all of them are linked and in many cases openly allied to PMLN. Come election time you'll see a lot of their people parading in guns during rallies or their faces plastered on posters. Nawaz was granted asylum by Saudis and loved by the Wahabis, hence its no surprise.

Nope. PML-N is mostly aligned with the LeJ/SSP/ASWJ nexus which is not an India centric organization. Indians mostly accuse LeT and Jaish of carrying out terrorism in India, both of which are aligned with the army. A case can be made for links between LeT and PML-N on account of both being Saudi stooges but Jaish is an organization that PML-N targeted and was rescued by the army which later led to the Dawn leaks with army personnel appearing and being photographed at their rallies around the same time as a show of support.
 
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Nope. PML-N is mostly aligned with the LeJ/SSP/ASWJ nexus which is not an India centric organization. Indians mostly accuse LeT and Jaish of carrying out terrorism in India, both of which are aligned with the army. A case can be made for links between LeT and PML-N on account of both being Saudi stooges but Jaish is an organization that PML-N targeted and was rescued by the army which later led to the Dawn leaks with army personnel appearing and being photographed at their rallies around the same time as a show of support.

There is no doubt Nawaz has been granted patronage by the Saudis, his entire history from being Zia's boy to his exile says that. There is no way he would ever go after any Wahabi organisation without his masters giving him the nod. Jaish etc all get a lot of Wahabi paisa, in full cahoots with the army and I doubt any attempt from Noon League to go after such organisations. So we'll have to agree to disagree.

Organisations like LeJ and SSP would also gladly kill Indians if given half a chance. Nawaz being nice with Indians has nothing to do with his peace but all to do with his business contacts. Jindal's meeting is a reminder.
 
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There is no doubt Nawaz has been granted patronage by the Saudis, his entire history from being Zia's boy to his exile says that. There is no way he would ever go after any Wahabi organisation without his masters giving him the nod.
No doubt about any of that but it's a bit of a moot point considering he doesn't really have the authority to go after them anyway. Not that he would if he could but for now, he can't. An army veto trumps everything.

Organisations like LeJ and SSP would also gladly kill Indians if given half a chance. Nawaz being nice with Indians has nothing to do with his peace but all to do with his business contacts. Jindal's meeting is a reminder.

LeJ/SSP are sectarian organizations with their sights firmly set on Shias, not Indians. Terrorist organizations in Pakistan, with the possible exception of TTP, are usually focused on one particular target since most of them were created by the number one agency around a particular goal/ideology and for the terrorists NS is aligned with, that target happens to be shias, not India. Nawaz dealing with Indians is all about his business but at the same time, I wouldn't worry too much about its implications on national security since there's always the army veto to counteract any measures he takes. What I'm more worried about is that there's no one to veto them and they have compromised our national security far more than any civvy ever could.
 
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I am not surprised by Kejriwal's loss. Didn't vote for him this time. He has lost the support of middle class in Delhi. He still has time to recover provided he stops whining about everything and man up to his failures and address them.
 
No doubt about any of that but it's a bit of a moot point considering he doesn't really have the authority to go after them anyway. Not that he would if he could but for now, he can't. An army veto trumps everything.



LeJ/SSP are sectarian organizations with their sights firmly set on Shias, not Indians. Terrorist organizations in Pakistan, with the possible exception of TTP, are usually focused on one particular target and for the terrorists NS is aligned with, that target happens to be shias, not India. Nawaz dealing with Indians is all about his business but at the same time, I wouldn't worry too much about its implications on national security since there's always the army veto to counteract any measures he takes. What I'm more worried about is that there's no one to veto them and they have compromised our national security far more than any civvy ever could.

I used to disagree with you on this, but now I firmly agree over the past few weeks.

Army with the use of money, stick & carrot, blackmail keeps politicians in line. Who in turn are free to loot the nation, and do so with gusto, as long as they don't bother the army. When any politician steps out of line he's slapped back.
 
I used to disagree with you on this, but now I firmly agree over the past few weeks.

Army with the use of money, stick & carrot, blackmail keeps politicians in line. Who in turn are free to loot the nation, and do so with gusto, as long as they don't bother the army. When any politician steps out of line he's slapped back.

The drama playing out with Ehsanullah Ehsan has been gut wrenching, as someone who lost a family member in Peshawar. You'd think justice would be done but apparently anti-India propaganda is more important than justice for the families and relatives of those murdered by Ehsan and his organization.
 
The drama playing out with Ehsanullah Ehsan has been gut wrenching, as someone who lost a family member in Peshawar. You'd think justice would be done but apparently anti-India propaganda is more important than justice for the families and relatives of those murdered by Ehsan and his organization.

Disgusting thing is he is smirking, grinning happily. When he should be hanging with a noose.

People have been asking questions about the army's recent role in all the political drama re: Nawaz/Dawn Leaks dragging on etc. And up pops this scumbag in a video so people forget everything else.
 
Disgusting thing is he is smirking, grinning happily. When he should be hanging with a noose.

People have been asking questions about the army's recent role in all the political drama re: Nawaz/Dawn Leaks dragging on etc. And up pops this scumbag in a video so people forget everything else.

That's their catch all solution to everything. Whenever someone asks questions, make them disappear or if it's too many people, bring up India or blasphemy and let their media arm(ARY, 92 and Bol with ISPR feeding them their narrative) take care of the rest. Works like a charm every time with a target audience that has an average IQ of about 6.

Anyway, thread's been derailed pretty hard so lets leave it at that.
 
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Disgusting thing is he is smirking, grinning happily. When he should be hanging with a noose.

People have been asking questions about the army's recent role in all the political drama re: Nawaz/Dawn Leaks dragging on etc. And up pops this scumbag in a video so people forget everything else.

It is truly unfathomable why he is being glorified and paraded around like he is an innocent youth led astray by the evil Indians.Understandably, there is much outrage on social media which almost everyone calling for his execution.

I doubt he will face the music.
 
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