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BRISBANE: Head Coach of Pakistan cricket team Mickey Arthur has blamed the bowlers for the side’s clean sweep in the test series to Australia, ARY News reported.

Arthur — in his report on the performance of the team in the test series, submitted to Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Shahryar Khan– has hold the bowlers responsible for the team’s whitewash against Australia.

He stated that the bowlers did not bowl on the correct line and length.

PCB chief has hinted that he will take strong steps following the team’s performance.

He said that a training camp will be set up under the supervision of the head coach following this year’s edition of Pakistan Super League (PSL).

The board will look the new talent for the team through the domestic cricket, he added.

http://arynews.tv/en/arthur-blames-bowlers-for-poor-show-in-australia/
 
so this report gets leaked once again. Incredible. but as we have seen in the past there will be no accountability. Mickey Arthur should simply resign on this incompetency.
 
And somehow the news (or gist of it) gets leaked.

Gotta give A to PCB for professionalism.

First thing that came to mind when I saw the thread title :)) Same thing happened with Waqar a couple of times as well :najam
 
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The entire bowling line up has to be changed.

Rest Amir and Yasir for one series.

Bring in the performers in domestic games , and give them the WI series.
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], seems like your boy is quite the expert in Microsoft word himself
 
A Plus for professionalism to PCB. I would expect Mickey Arthur to simply resign after this. He is a professional coach having worked with the best teams in the world. He is no retired cricketer or no Waqar Younis. Unethical if you ask me, especially with a man of such high standards..
 
[MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION], seems like your boy is quite the expert in Microsoft word himself

:P I was waiting for that.

Well he's right about the bowling. It seems Pakistani fast bowlers have forgotten how to bowl on flat pitches these days. They've been getting it too easy in FC cricket where grassy pitches, a rubbish Gray's ball that extravagantly swings and favourable overhead weather means a seamer can just let the conditions do the work for them.

Unprofessional leaking yet again by PCB. It was wrong for them to do it with Waqar too.
 
And somehow the news (or gist of it) gets leaked.

Gotta give A to PCB for professionalism.

TBH, the folks governing at the top aren't some bunch of elite professionals who took an oath to serve with integrity. They are a few handpicked bureaucrats who got lucky i suppose. Reminds me of Greg Chappell's letter reg Ganguly which got leaked.
 
Not surprised at this 'leak'.The PCB has a number of incompetent officials,who lack professionalism.
 
Why do we care so much about report, there is nothing in it. Mickey Arthur already said in the interview where Sohail khan is not fit enough for test matches, Imran khan is trundler and less said about PP darling Amir is better for everyone...
 
:)) i like how people here will critisize PCB for leaking the report but at the same time also enjoyed reading it.
 
BRISBANE: Head Coach of Pakistan cricket team Mickey Arthur has blamed the bowlers for the side’s clean sweep in the test series to Australia, ARY News reported.

Arthur — in his report on the performance of the team in the test series, submitted to Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Shahryar Khan– has hold the bowlers responsible for the team’s whitewash against Australia.

He stated that the bowlers did not bowl on the correct line and length.

PCB chief has hinted that he will take strong steps following the team’s performance.

He said that a training camp will be set up under the supervision of the head coach following this year’s edition of Pakistan Super League (PSL).

The board will look the new talent for the team through the domestic cricket, he added.

http://arynews.tv/en/arthur-blames-bowlers-for-poor-show-in-australia/



Great idea - now Gul, Tanvir, Anwar Ali, Bhatti, even Sami, Cheema ....... has something to be excited. Are Rauf & Tanvir Ahmed still playing or they have retired?
 
"Another training camp to be set up..." :facepalm:

Another bad result, guess what...TRAINING CAMP! Such a pathetic way of correcting things.
 
"Another training camp to be set up..." :facepalm:

Another bad result, guess what...TRAINING CAMP! Such a pathetic way of correcting things.

Thats how they draw the series with England. I don't think its a bad thing. The fitness of the pakistan players are pathetic.
 
:)) i like how people here will critisize PCB for leaking the report but at the same time also enjoyed reading it.

we need something to discuss about it and prove the point that all the bench players are better than current team :p
 
Its like the scene from the Simpsons where the Cayman Islands banker gets a phone call.

"Sorry but I cannot divulge information regarding Mickey Arthur's secret scathing report..."

*Hangs up*

"Oh crap, I shouldn't have said it was a secret".
"Oh crap!, I shouldn't have said, it was scathing!"
"OH CRAP!, I certainly shouldn't have said, it was from Mickey Arthur!!"



"Oh, its too hot today....."

*chills out*
 
obviously there are 1 or more moles in PCB highest setup who have access to this report

and after this happening for so long they are unable to find out who it is. what a pathetic excuse for an organisation this board is.
 
First the Waqar report gets leaked and now this :))) Honestly speaking the PCB needs to do more than just a training camp. Revamp the entire domestic cricket.
 
fix the leak mickey before holding the training camp... if cant quit from this unprofessional organisation...
 
Some of these guys are really greedy.

I wonder how much they were paid to leak the report?

This individual (or individuals) need to be hunted down and strict action should be taken against them.
 
too much grouping, politics, infighting, and unprofessionalism within the board. there are many moles who leak inside news to their journalist friends and sabotage opposing groups/individuals in the board.
 
First the Waqar report gets leaked and now this :))) Honestly speaking the PCB needs to do more than just a training camp. Revamp the entire domestic cricket.

well for Waqar's report the whole freaking report itself was leaked

here it seems the content and gist of it is leaked but not the report itself
 
LOL another confidential report leaked. May as well just make them public reports.
 
"Another training camp to be set up..." :facepalm:

Another bad result, guess what...TRAINING CAMP! Such a pathetic way of correcting things.

He just wants to see the pace talent pool available. Pretty clear he doesn't trust the selectors anymore.
 
How do they keep leaking information like that :facepalm:

I swear Pakistanis love to gossip, they can't keep a secret :moyo:
 
well for Waqar's report the whole freaking report itself was leaked

here it seems the content and gist of it is leaked but not the report itself

Then again the most important thing is that both got leaked somehow.
 
well for Waqar's report the whole freaking report itself was leaked

here it seems the content and gist of it is leaked but not the report itself

so things are improving slowly :yk
 
Mickey knew it was going to leaked and it is an honest assessment. The problem is that coaches at that level make little or no difference. I can come up with plans for each batsman, which normally says that you must bowl in the corridor of uncertainty but if the bowlers are rubbish, then it makes no difference.
Anybody that knows anything about cricket, knew they were going to get beaten by Australia and no PK coach or captain was ever going to change that. I would go as far as to say that no PK team will ever win in Australia.
 
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Mickey knew it was going to leaked and it is an honest assessment. The problem is that coaches at that level make little or no difference. I can come up with plans for each batsman, which normally says that you must bowl in the corridor of uncertainty but if the bowlers are rubbish, then it makes no difference.
Anybody that knows anything about cricket, knew they were going to get beaten by Australia and no PK coach or captain was ever going to change that. I would go as far as to say that no PK team will ever win in Australia.

Why's that?
 
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Why's that?
Obviously the slightly more bouncier pitches make our batsmen feel uneasy but bar Perth in 2005, they hardly split venom.The bigger issue is that is mentally we are beaten in Australia even before we get onto the field. The PK side in 99 was probably the best we have ever sent, lots of decent batsman, decent depth in batting and perhaps the best bowlers we have sent, most of whom were around their peak and guess what happened, we got smashed. The Aussies made mince meat out of the bowlers bar in one innings.
This side in comparison was poor, the only thing they had in their favour was that they were up against a very average Aus team but at no point did I ever feel they were going to win a test.
 
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have to say that despite the leak and the unanimous feeling on this thread toward that, ive been distinctly unimpressed with mickey and am starting to think that he has everything to prove - as much as the rest of the team management and selectors.
 
have to say that despite the leak and the unanimous feeling on this thread toward that, ive been distinctly unimpressed with mickey and am starting to think that he has everything to prove - as much as the rest of the team management and selectors.
I am conflicted on this.

In general, I think that Mickey and Rixon have been absolutely terrific - modern coaches with commonsense attitudes.

I fully accept that the ridiculous field placings which ruined the bowling attack in Australia and the horrendous overuse of Yasir Shah and Mohammad Amir were mainly Misbah's fault and certainly his responsibility. The warning signs were already on display in England, and the likes of Michael Vaughan and Mike Atherton and Nasser Hussain commented then that the bowling strategies were poor: who benefits at Old Trafford / Edgbaston / Melbourne / Sydney from Yasir Shah bowling 45-5-180-1?

But here in Australia people are less diplomatic and more truthful. And the unanimous perception in Australia is that as a bowling captain Misbah-ul-Haq is a blithering idiot, indeed the most incompetent bowling captain to have visited Australia for at least a century.

So while it is Misbah's fault, and Misbah's responsibility, I think that Mickey Arthur should take some of the responsibility for the debacle too.

Pakistan chose not to take Mohammad Asif to England, Australia and New Zealand. They chose not to let him work intensively on his fitness for the July to December period with the senior coaches.

It was a catastrophic decision, because those of us who follow Pakistan cricket closely knew that Sohail Khan and Imran Khan lack the fitness, speed and control of line but especially length to survive in Australia.

Mickey Arthur has obviously had split priorities in recent months. He needed the team to do well enough that he would survive in his job. But he also needed Misbah, Younis, Hafeez, Imran, Zulfiqar and Sohail out of the team ASAP to allow him to build a superior team of younger, fitter players.

So on the one hand the implosion of all of those players has helped. But on the other hand, shouldn't he have stepped in and pleaded with Misbah to stop relying on Yasir Shah outside Asia? And shouldn't he have argued with Misbah for Mohammad Amir not to bowl so wide?
 
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I am conflicted on this.

In general, I think that Mickey and Rixon have been absolutely terrific - modern coaches with commonsense attitudes.

I fully accept that the ridiculous field placings which ruined the bowling attack in Australia and the horrendous overuse of Yasir Shah and Mohammad Amir were mainly Misbah's fault and certainly his responsibility. The warning signs were already on display in England, and the likes of Michael Vaughan and Mike Atherton and Nasser Hussain commented then that the bowling strategies were poor: who benefits at Old Trafford / Edgbaston / Melbourne / Sydney from Yasir Shah bowling 45-5-180-1?

But here in Australia people are less diplomatic and more truthful. And the unanimous perception in Australia is that as a bowling captain Misbah-ul-Haq is a blithering idiot, indeed the most incompetent bowling captain to have visited Australia for at least a century.

So while it is Misbah's fault, and Misbah's responsibility, I think that Mickey Arthur should take some of the responsibility for the debacle too.

Pakistan chose not to take Mohammad Asif to England, Australia and New Zealand. They chose not to let him work intensively on his fitness for the July to December period with the senior coaches.

It was a catastrophic decision, because those of us who follow Pakistan cricket closely knew that Sohail Khan and Imran Khan lack the fitness, speed and control of line but especially length to survive in Australia.

Mickey Arthur has obviously had split priorities in recent months. He needed the team to do well enough that he would survive in his job. But he also needed Misbah, Younis, Hafeez, Imran, Zulfiqar and Sohail out of the team ASAP to allow him to build a superior team of younger, fitter players.

So on the one hand the implosion of all of those players has helped. But on the other hand, shouldn't he have stepped in and pleaded with Misbah to stop relying on Yasir Shah outside Asia? And shouldn't he have argued with Misbah for Mohammad Amir not to bowl so wide?

So let me get this right.

Mickey Arthur let us do badly for the greater good?

Lose the battle win the war?
 
"confidential"?

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I hope someone writing confidential report about Mickay'performance.

He has been just side lined by Misbah.
 
Honestly how do things like this get leaked but information about scams involving thouands of crores of rupees leak to the public ?
 
I am conflicted on this.

In general, I think that Mickey and Rixon have been absolutely terrific - modern coaches with commonsense attitudes.

I fully accept that the ridiculous field placings which ruined the bowling attack in Australia and the horrendous overuse of Yasir Shah and Mohammad Amir were mainly Misbah's fault and certainly his responsibility. The warning signs were already on display in England, and the likes of Michael Vaughan and Mike Atherton and Nasser Hussain commented then that the bowling strategies were poor: who benefits at Old Trafford / Edgbaston / Melbourne / Sydney from Yasir Shah bowling 45-5-180-1?

But here in Australia people are less diplomatic and more truthful. And the unanimous perception in Australia is that as a bowling captain Misbah-ul-Haq is a blithering idiot, indeed the most incompetent bowling captain to have visited Australia for at least a century.

So while it is Misbah's fault, and Misbah's responsibility, I think that Mickey Arthur should take some of the responsibility for the debacle too.

Pakistan chose not to take Mohammad Asif to England, Australia and New Zealand. They chose not to let him work intensively on his fitness for the July to December period with the senior coaches.

It was a catastrophic decision, because those of us who follow Pakistan cricket closely knew that Sohail Khan and Imran Khan lack the fitness, speed and control of line but especially length to survive in Australia.

Mickey Arthur has obviously had split priorities in recent months. He needed the team to do well enough that he would survive in his job. But he also needed Misbah, Younis, Hafeez, Imran, Zulfiqar and Sohail out of the team ASAP to allow him to build a superior team of younger, fitter players.

So on the one hand the implosion of all of those players has helped. But on the other hand, shouldn't he have stepped in and pleaded with Misbah to stop relying on Yasir Shah outside Asia? And shouldn't he have argued with Misbah for Mohammad Amir not to bowl so wide?

It didn't matter what fields you set for Yasir, if his leg spinner doesn't turn sharply, he won't be effective.
 
Misbah lost interest and that effected his field placing that resulted in terrible performance by the bowlers,
 
I am conflicted on this.

In general, I think that Mickey and Rixon have been absolutely terrific - modern coaches with commonsense attitudes.

I fully accept that the ridiculous field placings which ruined the bowling attack in Australia and the horrendous overuse of Yasir Shah and Mohammad Amir were mainly Misbah's fault and certainly his responsibility. The warning signs were already on display in England, and the likes of Michael Vaughan and Mike Atherton and Nasser Hussain commented then that the bowling strategies were poor: who benefits at Old Trafford / Edgbaston / Melbourne / Sydney from Yasir Shah bowling 45-5-180-1?

But here in Australia people are less diplomatic and more truthful. And the unanimous perception in Australia is that as a bowling captain Misbah-ul-Haq is a blithering idiot, indeed the most incompetent bowling captain to have visited Australia for at least a century.

So while it is Misbah's fault, and Misbah's responsibility, I think that Mickey Arthur should take some of the responsibility for the debacle too.

Pakistan chose not to take Mohammad Asif to England, Australia and New Zealand. They chose not to let him work intensively on his fitness for the July to December period with the senior coaches.

It was a catastrophic decision, because those of us who follow Pakistan cricket closely knew that Sohail Khan and Imran Khan lack the fitness, speed and control of line but especially length to survive in Australia.

Mickey Arthur has obviously had split priorities in recent months. He needed the team to do well enough that he would survive in his job. But he also needed Misbah, Younis, Hafeez, Imran, Zulfiqar and Sohail out of the team ASAP to allow him to build a superior team of younger, fitter players.

So on the one hand the implosion of all of those players has helped. But on the other hand, shouldn't he have stepped in and pleaded with Misbah to stop relying on Yasir Shah outside Asia? And shouldn't he have argued with Misbah for Mohammad Amir not to bowl so wide?

im afraid as is very usual, this post is jam packed full of abject error.

mickey and rixon have been thoroughly unimpressive to date. the only real input visible from rixon's tenure is the idiotic idea to field sami in slip when it is very obvious even to the gullible children of pp that he does not have the ability. mickey has excelled at media fluffing, comparing mediocre players to the worlds best, and talking about his own issues with cricket australia. that said, its always difficult to assertain the exact influence of a coach on a side, but there are certainly no clear indications of anything positive he has brought to the table at all so far, and instead, plenty of disappointment.

you can accept misbah is to blame for all that you want to place at his feet; on the other hand i fully suspect that this uncharacteristic display by him was a result of influence, most likely mickey trying to build a brand of innovation, and to a lesser extent yasir himself - as he has publicly admitted. with regards to overbowling his pacers, or spinners ie his bowlers - when your bowlers are all underperforming, there is no choice. the lack of options is a direct result of not having developed all rounders by previous teams of selectors. so i dont at all accept that the blame for two small things amongst a litany of talking points on this series are solely due to misbahs captaincy. have yo already forgotten how unanimous was the criticism on team management when they left yasir out for a match in new zealand?

im not sure what warning signs you were watching in england - vaughn in his typically puerile attempts at controversy and attention is known pretty much only for voicing extreme opinoins, and was full of praise for misbah certain;ly during some of his commentary stints this series. nasser, in a pp interview quoted by another site had this to say about misbah's captaincy:

"PP: Forty-two-years-old and he’s still going strong. How long do you expect Misbah to carry on playing for Pakistan?

NH: I’d like him to carry on playing as long as possible. I spoke to him the other day at The Oval and I said you are a long time retired. I suppose if the result with India and West Indies goes in Pakistan’s favour and they go to number one in the world, then there is a good opportunity for him to go out right at the top; winning his last Test as captain, captaining well and taking Pakistan to number one. That would be an ideal opportunity for him to go out at the top, but I would like him to carry on for a long time. I think he has been a calming influence on the team and his captaincy has been excellent"

http://www.cricketcountry.com/artic...et-is-amazing-and-long-may-it-continue-518760

so im afraid that comment about warning signs is utterly false and dishonest.

in australia, people are not less diplomatic and more truthful, they are less diplomatic and less tactful. stating your opinion honestly, does not make it more truthful. whether the aussie commentators, renowned the world over for being whiny, self serving, poor losers and poor winners, think that misbahs bowling captaincy - whatever that is - is horrendous or not is neither here nor there. who cares? heres what the established media thinks of it:

1. nasser as quoted above
2. the telegraph: ranked and rated as best test captain http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cr...-captains-ranked-and-rated.html?frame=3405357
3. the spectator (oborne): "Why Misbah ul-Haq is Pakistan’s greatest Test captain" http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/why-misbah-ul-haq-is-pakistans-greatest-test-captain/

and the list goes on. the topic is so heavily misrepresented in your post that even obscure sites rank him amongst the top ten test captains ever: http://sporteology.com/top-10-successful-cricket-captains-time/

im not making the point that misbahs captaincy is amazing, i dont have an opinion on that myself. im making the point that its dishonest to represent the opinion on it as being a consensus of negativity, its not.

im not sure where you get your inside information on what mickey "needs to do" in terms of ridding the team of certain players. you can suspect it all you like, but you state it like its fact. is it in fact rank speculation you are characteristically misrepresnting in your trolling on these boards, or do you have some source? ive seen no such evidence to suggest that mickey "needs" to be rid of misbah, younis, hafeez etc etc.

if he is a control freak as his reputation would indicate, there is a case to be made for his influence in game strategy - in which case there needs to be some questions asked of mickey. neither he nor misbah is a selector, so despite their opinions carrying weight, they cant be held accountable for a poor bench facilitated by previous inept selectors. so i dont hold either accountable for the squad and lack of all rounder, but what signs are there thaht other than mouthing off, mickey has done anything at all?
 
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