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Mickey Arthur: Lack of IPL exposure reason for Pakistan’s ‘20th century cricket’

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Lahore: Pakistan players’ lack of exposure in the cash-rich Indian Premier League (IPL) is the reason behind their “20th century” brand of cricket, coach Mickey Arthur has said.

Arthur had on Wednesday warned his players to embrace modern cricket if Pakistan are to stand a chance against rival teams.

“This isn’t just dressing room speak. I’ve told the players that we were playing cricket that belonged in the 20th century. We hadn’t embraced the new modern game yet, and that was for a number of reasons, like not playing at home, or not having the exposure to the IPL that the rest of the world has had,” Arthur said in an interview to the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB).

“So there were a lot of mitigating factors, but the fact is, if we’ve got to compete with them, we have to start embracing the modern trend,” he added.

Acknowledging the lack of power-hitters in the Pakistan batting line-up, Arthur said: “It [lack of power hitters] is a worry. When we get on good wickets, we can’t match the other countries.”

“Teams are getting 100 runs in the last 10 overs now. We’re getting 70, at best. We didn’t get a run-a-ball in the last five overs the other day in a T20 [against the West Indies]. That’s not good enough; that’s not going to win us games,” he added.

The former South Africa coach said the present Proteas line-up, comprising the likes of AB de Villiers, Morne Morkel and others, is a prime example of a professional structure, which he hopes to bring in Pakistan cricket, with fitness at the core.

“I’ve been lucky in my team with South Africa, where we inherited a team with a couple of senior players, and we put in players like de Villiers, Morkel, Duminy, Steyn,” said Arthur, who coached South Africa from 2005 to 2010.

“To see them grow and get better is the most fulfilling thing that can happen for you as a coach. I’m hoping the same happens with this Pakistan team, and I’m incredibly excited about the future,” he added.

http://gulfnews.com/sport/cricket/p...for-pakistan-s-20th-century-cricket-1.2011081
 
He speaks as if the IPL is the only T20 league out there. What about all the other T20 leagues that Pakistani players have been playing in for years and years.
 
Lack of exposure to a competent coach is a more rational reason.
 
Mickey Arthur calls for the selection of Hafeez and then plays him at 3/4 and then says team is not playing modern cricket. :facepalm:


Couldn't have asked for a worse coach at this critical juncture in our history. This guy has been fired from his previous jobs for a reason. If tomorrow I get fired for incompetency (God forbid) my next employer will thoroughly assess why was I fired and what did I lack in my performance which resulted in my dismissal.

Pakistanis have this inferiority complex that just because a person is Australian/Saffer he will automatically be a better cricketing mind.


The sooner we get rid of MA the better.
 
Bangladesh has an allrounder and a bowler in the IPL. The rest are not in IPL we still have some positive players
 
Whaaat really?!?!?!?!?!

The little faith i had in him is gone.
Really MA is this your conclusion?

How about you stop playing hacks like shezad with a sr of 70 odd?

What a poor statement.
 
Man speaks the truth. IPL really helps. No wonder India is #1 in all the formats. Before IPL India was just like nobody. After IPL Balle Balle.
 
Underprepared domestic wickets and incompetent mangement and selectors including Mickey himself who fail to select and groom the right players are the actual problem .

Clickbait headline tbf .
 
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Playing on those horrible UAE tracks and bad pitches in domestics is the reason.

Hit the nail. I would add the whole domestic cricket structure along with a poor grass roots system. It still means who you know rather than what you know or if you have enough money you get in first.

I like Mickey but he's talking nonsense regarding IPL. They have every other nonsense 20/20 league to play around the world. These leagues have very little impact on development.
 
Give PSL five more years and I can easily see Pakistan in top 3 across all the formats. Give PSL some time before criticising T20.
 
Almost insulting from the coach of out national team downgrading out own PSL and making excuse for not participating in IPL as the cause of team's lack of progress, disappointing in deed. Pak players will not be in IPL anytime soon, so whats the solution, just give up ?
 
Man speaks the truth. IPL really helps. No wonder India is #1 in all the formats. Before IPL India was just like nobody. After IPL Balle Balle.

India had one T20 WC victory before. No wins after IPL
 
Almost insulting from the coach of out national team downgrading out own PSL and making excuse for not participating in IPL as the cause of team's lack of progress, disappointing in deed. Pak players will not be in IPL anytime soon, so whats the solution, just give up ?

Read my post. Give PSL sometime and you will be world beaters.
 
Also when you have Misbah leading the team for 7 years and then Azhar leading ODI, old and FFTs not being discarding, younger players not getting chances, what do you expect ?
 
Man speaks the truth. IPL really helps. No wonder India is #1 in all the formats. Before IPL India was just like nobody. After IPL Balle Balle.

Sir India is number one only in tests.
 
Mickey Arthur calls for the selection of Hafeez and then plays him at 3/4 and then says team is not playing modern cricket. :facepalm:


Couldn't have asked for a worse coach at this critical juncture in our history. This guy has been fired from his previous jobs for a reason. If tomorrow I get fired for incompetency (God forbid) my next employer will thoroughly assess why was I fired and what did I lack in my performance which resulted in my dismissal.

Pakistanis have this inferiority complex that just because a person is Australian/Saffer he will automatically be a better cricketing mind.


The sooner we get rid of MA the better.

Who says he asked for Hafeez?

Who should replace him?

Fact is Pakistan cricket is stuck in a rut. Fans can blame who they like.
 
Also when you have Misbah leading the team for 7 years and then Azhar leading ODI, old and FFTs not being discarding, younger players not getting chances, what do you expect ?

Obsession with Misbah continues. Even though he has retired and has NOTHING to do with selection of current TTF's.
 
People who blame Misbah has never played the game. Misbah could walk into any side in the world. Start respecting the man if you value the game.
 
As coach this is what he has seen. But not many ppl mention the fact that the regional odi cup was held in winter and more than half the matches were rained off and the rest were held on difficult pitches where there were very few scores of above 300.
I do think exposure to leagues is an important factor. Despite the many leagues our guys play, there were very few openers. Mostly it's guys Malik playing at 4 or 5.
 
Give PSL five more years and I can easily see Pakistan in top 3 across all the formats. Give PSL some time before criticising T20.

Playing in empty stadium in Dubai versus 70000k in Eden Gardens against superior opposition does make a difference. Not all T20s are created equally.
 
England recovered in ODI cricket without their players being exposed to the IPL so I disagree with Mickey here. Unlike us, England were ruthless with underperforming seniors after the 2015 WC and have a strong talent pool to pick from thanks to their domestic structure. It says everything when Sam Billings comes into the PSL and immediately looks leagues above our local batsmen. That's a product of an environment where kids are properly coached and supported.

But I do think the fact PCB took years to set up a franchise T20 league has meant everybody else has got a headstart. The PSL has already helped battle harden youngsters like Hasan Ali and Shadab Khan, exposing them to pressure situations against internationally capped players. We're only starting to bear the fruits of PSL.

However PSL isn't the quick fix PCB seem to think. Their neglect of the domestic game - failing to invest in coaching, adequately maintain grounds/pitches and even compentently schedule tournaments is reason for our decline. These slow, low, underprepared tracks are NOT conducive to free-flowing strokeplay or powerhitting and encourages tuk tuk where limited front-foot grinders thrive.
 
He's clearly saying the non participation of Pakistani payers in a top class league like IPL is ONE of a number of factors which has resulted in the downfall of our LOI teams. A lot of people got baited by the headline.
 
Would people please get off of MA's case?
Did MA tell Latif and Sharjeel to get involved with spot fixing? Did MA just let unfit players onto the squad?

MA is doing a fantastic job given his resources. He needs to be given a run of at least four years before you're going to see any tangible results. People have been getting hard on him after a one year on the job. Get real, people.

here's the facts of the situation-we tell people we're going to readmit players to the squad i.e. K Akmal and Shehzad based on their domestic performance. They perform, MA has to uphold his promise. Now that they've failed he can drop them again and it's fair.

As some of the other posters have said, we act as if MA has been given other options. he doesn't have a Steve Smith and Joe Root wasting time in domestic waiting for a call up. There's so much to work on in domestics that isn't being done. If anything the real person who needs to get evaluated is the head of domestic cricket-what are THEY doing to improve the game?
 
Poor excuse from Arthur.

Pakistan's players play in the PSL and the whole point of that is to improve the country's cricketers.
 
People who blame Misbah has never played the game. Misbah could walk into any side in the world. Start respecting the man if you value the game.

Start respecting Dhoni first then preach others to respect Misbah. Or are you one of those who believe in 'ghar ki murgi daal barabar'? :kohli :shezzy
 
I thought IPL was trash. Now the respected coach of Pak team rates it. Hmmm!

Watch for Arthur hate mail going off the roof and people calling for him to be sacked . He mentioned the forbidden IPL in a positive light ..
 
Poor excuse from Arthur.

Pakistan's players play in the PSL and the whole point of that is to improve the country's cricketers.

IPL has been around for a while psl is two years old. Also at this stage team openers are filling top order spots with the imports not local players
 
Not possible when the very best elite players don't play in it.

It doesn't matter, Just because they are not allowed to play in one bakvaas league called the IPL doesn't mean they can't adjust to modern cricket - it's all down to other reasons that have already been mentioned.
 
This was a 9+ minute interview...... Extremely Sub Par Headline......

He just name dropped IPL to make a point guys :facepalm: :facepalm:
 
LOL everything wrong blame it on IPL!

Loving this circus!!
 
Start respecting Dhoni first then preach others to respect Misbah. Or are you one of those who believe in 'ghar ki murgi daal barabar'? :kohli :shezzy

I used to respect Dhoni. Not anymore. Misbah I admire from far away. Moreover Misbah's actions dont affect me but Dhoni's does.
 
Yes true but there is the scope for some decent cricket also and players to improve.

Absolutely. Pakistanis just like other people in sub continent want instant results. Learn to be patient and you will see PSL pay off in few years.

PSL will improve cricket in Pakistan.
 
All of this would make sense.

BUT ONLY IF Mickey Arthur was not a HUGE supporter of Shehzad, Malik, Hafeez (to some extent). How come he keeps playing these duds ?

They don't belong in this era.
 
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