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"Mickey Arthur said I can be Pakistan's Lance Klusener" : Faheem Ashraf

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Faheem Ashraf speaking on TV:

"I am thankful to Islamabad United for making me a part of this team"

"PSL is a big event so for an event like this, you need to be mentally prepared. You need to have the correct mindset to do well"

"Mickey Arthur said I can be like Pakistan's Lance Klusener. He used to open the bowling then he also opened the batting so he said that similarly, he sees the same thing in me, that I can bowl and bat well and I can become like him for Pakistan"

"Cricket has become difficult nowadays as you don't need to just bat and bowl, you need to put a lot of effort into fielding. If you look at Ben Stokes, he is a good fielder, not just a good batsman or bowler. He doesn't look like just a batsman or bowler, he's a main player in the team while on the field. I want to win matches with my performances for Islamabad United"

"You shouldn't be scared of getting hit for a six, I don't know how often I have been hit for a six. But if you are scared about it then you will get hit, but if you don't focus on that then you can perform better"

"My ideal (inspiration) is Ben Stokes"

"When I started playing cricket in U19, I was an all-rounder. In the first year of U19 under Ehsan Adil so I made a fifty in a final. The next year, I was captain for Faisalabad and was the best batsman"

"I have played for Faisalabad for four years and from there, everyone loves joking around and having fun. Similarly we have a group of guys including Fakhar, Hasan, Shadab, Shinwari and Nawaz and we're all of a similar age so we get along really well"

"When I started in the Champions Trophy, my batting pleased everyone. On the last two tours against SL and NZ, my batting hasn't been so good but I bowled well. In PSL, I don't want to focus on any one thing, I want to do well in all three aspects of the game as Mickey Arthur and Azhar bhai tell us"

"Every player's dream is to play Test cricket. The main cricket is Test cricket. I want to give my 100% for Pakistan and get into the Pakistan Test team, not just for 1-2 matches or series but I want to play Tests for Pakistan for a long time"

"In the last two series, I have been working on my slower balls as I'm already accustomed to bowling at a good length etc., but in domestic cricket, we don't bowl slower balls that often. I am currently playing in the shorter formats where these deliveries can come in handy"
 
This guy is a special talent and it’s been clear since day one.

Keep watching and waiting - he isn’t one of those players that “come and go”
 
Who's going to be his Allan Donald?

Jokes aside, it's a reasonable comparison stylistically, no one has or will claim it qualitatively so no need to preach to a non-existent choir.
 
A perfect role model, Fahim should try to reach there. At least if not Zulu, it can take him somewhere near.
 
I think for Faheem, Lance is the perfect player for him to become like. An agressive allrounder. Faheem is a good pace bowler who is a solid hitter.
 
Klusener was world-class. Pakistan fans would be happy if Faheem achieves 50% of what Klusener did.
 
Klusner is a good role model for Faheem. We would be delighted if he could have that type of impact. Not expecting Faheem to be as good as Klusner but I'm confident he will be a very good player for us.
 
Man I want right handers to grow up and want to be like Razzaq. Would kill to have a player like him!
 
Why do these players and coaches need to give statements to Media :facepalm:

Well, its good that coach commends you to be Pakistan’s Klusener or any one else, but keep it within dressing room and just perform.

If Faheem fails to leave upto expectations then these statements would just make it look silly. First, Babar with Kohli, and now Faheem. Whats next?
 
Klusner is a good role model for Faheem. We would be delighted if he could have that type of impact. Not expecting Faheem to be as good as Klusner but I'm confident he will be a very good player for us.

Klusener was reported to have attitude problems by Smith - which eventually led to him being discarded by 2004.
 
Klusener was reported to have attitude problems by Smith - which eventually led to him being discarded by 2004.

I think he was talking in cricketing terms and not on the basis of behaviour. There is no way for Faheem to know about how Klusener behaved during his time as he is playing almost 14 years after the latter played his last game. The only thing he can take inspiration from is how Klusener played by watching his videos or try to emulate Klusener by looking at his record.

Having said that, I don't understand this obsession of Mickey Arthur to compare Pakistan team players with former/current stars. I think he should just let these guys develop and make a name for themselves for few years before throwing such comparisons.
 
Faheem might as well say goodbye to his career now.

Extremely sad stuff.
 
Pakistan’s Lance Klusner. That shouldn’t be too difficult as long as he can bowl decently :P.
 
Unfortunately he does not have that talent. Wish he proved me wrong
 
Faheem Ashraf speaking on TV:

"Mickey Arthur said I can be like Pakistan's Lance Klusener. He used to open the bowling then he also opened the batting so he said that similarly, he sees the same thing in me, that I can bowl and bat well and I can become like him for Pakistan"

Don’t remember Klusener opening the batting. Not sure if he opened bowling either.

Neil Johnson did. Another quality all-rounder.
 
Don’t remember Klusener opening the batting. Not sure if he opened bowling either.

Neil Johnson did. Another quality all-rounder.

Yup, he did not open that much, he just batted 10 times in positions 1-2 in his career of 171 games. Neil Johnson was a phenomenal player, Can't believe the quality of Zimbabwe team in the 90's. Streak, Johnson, Goodwin, Flower G, A Flower, Craig Wishart, Alistair Campbell, Whittal, Ray Price, SV Carlisle, Paul Strang etc... They will give lots of current international sides tough competition now.
 
Well there goes his career

Mickey's endorsements are generally the kiss of death
 
Yup, he did not open that much, he just batted 10 times in positions 1-2 in his career of 171 games. Neil Johnson was a phenomenal player, Can't believe the quality of Zimbabwe team in the 90's. Streak, Johnson, Goodwin, Flower G, A Flower, Craig Wishart, Alistair Campbell, Whittal, Ray Price, SV Carlisle, Paul Strang etc... They will give lots of current international sides tough competition now.

Yes, great players. Johnson was class. Unfortunately played for only 1-1.5 years at International level - less than 50 ODIs and 15 tests.

Gavin Hamilton was another good all-rounder of the late 90s. Scottish. He too played very little cricket.
 
Lol. Son, you have to work a lot on your batting in order to reach the level of Lance Klusener.
 
He should not imitate Kulesner or his style because they are physicaly different. This guy doesn't have the physical attributes to enforce himself, he should aim to be somewhere near Razzaq.
 
Klusener was world-class. Pakistan fans would be happy if Faheem achieves 50% of what Klusener did.

Totally agree- the lad has a bit of talent but the Klusener in the 96-99 era was something else. If the lad can become a reliable 8 and decent 3rd seamer, we have something. From what i have seen of his batting, his technique wont stand up to the better bowlers under pressure.
 
Yet to show his batting potential in Int Cricket.


He has the propensity to outnumber David Miller Odi & T20i batting numbers given he stays grounded and keeps up his soldier’s esque work ethics.


Lots of potential out there. (Natural ability)
 
I rate Hasan better than Younis.

Younis was a choker in important games and most of his wickets were tail enders

This is so true especially in the 96 WC QF and 2003 group games against India and Aus where he bottled it with ball and captaincy.

No wonder Wasim didn't pick him in the first team during 99 WC because he could see it for himself.

Before we can draw comparisons with him we will have to wait for Hasan Ali to retire first though.
 
Why do these players and coaches need to give statements to Media :facepalm:

Well, its good that coach commends you to be Pakistan’s Klusener or any one else, but keep it within dressing room and just perform.

If Faheem fails to leave upto expectations then these statements would just make it look silly. First, Babar with Kohli, and now Faheem. Whats next?

Ashraf blurted out the comparison in media not Arthur.

Anyway its good to see the coach instilling faith and confidence in the youngsters, unlike his predecessor who demoralised them and failed to develop them.
 
Not a bad player to emulate but I hope Faheem knows how much work it will be.
 
How many times has a Pakistani player been compared with a previous legend and kept pace with the comparison?
 
Yup, he did not open that much, he just batted 10 times in positions 1-2 in his career of 171 games. Neil Johnson was a phenomenal player, Can't believe the quality of Zimbabwe team in the 90's. Streak, Johnson, Goodwin, Flower G, A Flower, Craig Wishart, Alistair Campbell, Whittal, Ray Price, SV Carlisle, Paul Strang etc... They will give lots of current international sides tough competition now.

It was built on white players only. It was never gonna last. Good players though.
 
I honestly think that he is pretty good for Pakistani standards. He bats well and is a decent third/fourth bowler.

He might never be the best fast bowling allrounder, but for Pakistani standards he can deliver for sure. People shouldn't start comparing him with more established allrounders as that's unfair and doesn't make sense. Let him perform for a year at the least before rating him as one of the better ones around.
 
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Mickey Arthur loves trolling these guys and they actually fall for it.

First it was Shafiq being compared to Sachin and then Babar and then now Faheem.

Tells you how much a brain these guys have or actually understand and comprehend things.

:))) :)) :)))
 
I honestly think that he is pretty good for Pakistani standards. He bats well and is a decent third/fourth bowler.

He might never be the best fast bowling allrounder, but for Pakistani standards he can deliver for sure. People shouldn't start comparing him with more established allrounders as that's unfair and doesn't make sense. Let him perform for a year at the least before rating him as one of the better ones around.

Desi style to hype players too early :ashwin
 
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:))) :)))

Hilarious. The guy is nothing more than a glorified tailender
 
Against top teams he's played 10 ODIs:

Batting avg of 12 at SR of 74.

Bowling avg of 56.
 
i considered him good but looks like tailender . i think aamir yamin
 
Hes a decent bowler, but with the bat hes simply no better than a normal tail-ender.

Need to stop classifying him as an all-rounder and should be kept well away from test side if hes going to be used as an "all rounder" in a 5-2-1-4 selection.
 
He's a poor man's Hardik Pandya who inturn is a poor man's Klusener.
 
another bits and pieces player masquerading as an all-rounder :facepalm:
 
Hassan's innings today should put a stop to Faheem's career in Tests and ODI's - at least for now.

Hassan has proven himself to be a #8 batsmen at a minimum, and Faheem has proven that he is a dud with the bat.
 
He's an average bowler and even worse batsmen. Fans got overboard by his warm-up innings v Bangladesh and now the facts are there for everyone to see.
 
He's a poor man's Hardik Pandya who inturn is a poor man's Klusener.

Not really, he is a much better bowler than Pandaya but is a horrible batsman while Pandaya is a very good batsman.
 
Shocking how badly his batting has regressed. He looked quite decent with the bat in his first few games.
 
He is mentally weak while batting on the crease. Needs to develop a positive attitude like Shadab and Hassan.
 
Always been hopeless against spin and hasn't improved. Patience wearing thin absolutely with his batting, but his bowling is quite solid

I feel he needs to have one maybe two selfish innings just so he can at least build some level of confidence in his batting.
 
Not really, he is a much better bowler than Pandaya but is a horrible batsman while Pandaya is a very good batsman.

He is Not a much better bowler than Pandya. Marginally better
 
He is Not a much better bowler than Pandya. Marginally better

He bowled very well in the Tests. I'd easily take him over Pandaya when it comes to bowling. Not batting obviously. Him being better than Pandaya in bowling alone doesn't make him a 'poor man's Pandaya' which was my point. They're both decent just at opposite things.
 
Turning into Pakistan's Chris Martin at the moment.
 
Asad Shafiq Tendulkar
Babbar Azam Virat Kohli
Faheem Ashraf Klusener

Mickey Arthur needs to stop these comparisions. It gets twisted into something else by the media.
 
He bowled very well in the Tests. I'd easily take him over Pandaya when it comes to bowling. Not batting obviously. Him being better than Pandaya in bowling alone doesn't make him a 'poor man's Pandaya' which was my point. They're both decent just at opposite things.

The debate is about all round capabilities. Pandya is no mug with the ball as Faheem is with the bat.
 
The debate is about all round capabilities. Pandya is no mug with the ball as Faheem is with the bat.

I am afraid compared to Faheem he is a mug when it comes to bowling esp in ODIs where his bowling average is 40 compared to Faheem's 26. So calling him 'marginally better' in bowling is a massive joke.

Pandaya is an overall better player owing to his batting. But because of his bowling Faheem is in no way a poor man's Pandaya. A less better player yeah I would take that. Calling him a poor man's Klusener would be more accurate.

Hence clearly agree to disagree.
 
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I am afraid compared to Faheem he is a mug when it comes to bowling esp in ODIs where his bowling average is 40 compared to Faheem's 26. So calling him 'marginally better' in bowling is a massive joke.

Pandaya is an overall better player owing to his batting. But because of his bowling Faheem is in no way a poor man's Pandaya. A less better player yeah I would take that. Calling him a poor man's Klusener would be more accurate.

Hence clearly agree to disagree.

Man, that Zimbabwe series screwed up the midset of an average Pakistani fan. Faheem Klusener Ashraf averages a hefty 52 with the ball in ODIs when you remove Hongkong and Zimbabwe "padded stats". To be precise, he played 13 games, bowled 79 overs, took 8 wickets, ER of 5.28 @ 52.37 AVG.

Pandya has never played against minnows in ODIs and his record of 40 avg is against non minnows.
 
Man, that Zimbabwe series screwed up the midset of an average Pakistani fan. Faheem Klusener Ashraf averages a hefty 52 with the ball in ODIs when you remove Hongkong and Zimbabwe "padded stats". To be precise, he played 13 games, bowled 79 overs, took 8 wickets, ER of 5.28 @ 52.37 AVG.

Pandya has never played against minnows in ODIs and his record of 40 avg is against non minnows.

I didn't even watch the Zimbabwe series so calm your pants, I just googled it to see when it actually happened :)) And fair enough if his stats are that if you exclude the minnows.
 
I didn't even watch the Zimbabwe series so calm your pants, I just googled it to see when it actually happened :)) And fair enough if his stats are that if you exclude the minnows.

Well..Most didnt watch it and that's how insignificant it was. So, just take some time and do some basic analysis before peddling stats.
 
Well..Most didnt watch it and that's how insignificant it was. So, just take some time and do some basic analysis before peddling stats.

You clearly did or knew about it. I didn't and I am a Pakistani fan :))

I like taking time and spending it on Pakistan's forums. Maybe I should go to Indian forums and post trash?

I did say fair enough. But your dhoti is still in a twist so what can I say. :))
 
You clearly did or knew about it. I didn't and I am a Pakistani fan :))

I like taking time and spending it on Pakistan's forums. Maybe I should go to Indian forums and post trash?

I did say fair enough. But your dhoti is still in a twist so what can I say. :))

LOL again. I am not from India either. I guess you don;t spend time for anything. Whata a dhoti by the way
 
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