Mickey's Arthur performance as a coach

[asifp]

ODI:
He has won a series against West Indies (2), Sri Lanka and Zimb. All of these at home

Lost to England 4-1, Australia 4-1 and New Zealand 5-0

Summary: Any time we played a good team away from the UAE we got our butt kicked


Test:
Drew twice against England, high point
Beat West indies twice
Got walloped by Australia and NewZealand
Lost to Sri Lanka int UAE....low point

That to be seems like a C or maximum C+ performance.

Seriously where is the progress under this guy? We are going in the wrong direction.

I really do think, it is time to ask him to Walk off. I was never a fan when he got hired and after 2 years he has confirmed that he is an over rated useless coach.

 

[ads101]

I don't think he's a great coach. Always makes mistakes picking the team and doesn't pick bowlers to fit the conditions. I don't see any great planning bowling/field placing wise (though that may be down to Sarfraz's captaincy too and bowlers in general). And has virtually no knowledge of Pakistani domestic or past domestic, which is why he found out to his surprise certain players like Umar Akmal and Irfan are not fit lol. Not to mention he never gets his team Karachi Kings anywhere in the PSL besides the fact they have more international players than any other team (as there's a lot of current Pakistani T20 players on it).

Though on the other hand, perhaps he doesn't have the resources to his disposal. So not entirely his fault.

I'd like to see Deano given a shot at coach. It's clear he wants it. But IU makes it far most times in the PSL, a lot of star talent is first identified there/picked up.

 

[Boi]

His tactics have been questionable and I don’t think he’s backed or selected the right players.

However credit must be given to him for forcing a change in the team culture with the attitude and emphasis on fitness. It bodes well for the future

 

[Pete Rose]

Solid B-.
Cant ask for a better coach at the moment with the current lot of boys.
Which basically means the press will clamor for his removal and we will go to the world cup with umar akmal, ahmed shehzad, malik, and hafeez.

 

[Hamad_H]

ODI:
He has won a series against West Indies (2), Sri Lanka and Zimb. All of these at home

Lost to England 4-1, Australia 4-1 and New Zealand 5-0

Summary: Any time we played a good team away from the UAE we got our butt kicked


Test:
Drew twice against England, high point
Beat West indies twice
Got walloped by Australia and NewZealand
Lost to Sri Lanka int UAE....low point

That to be seems like a C or maximum C+ performance.

Seriously where is the progress under this guy? We are going in the wrong direction.

I really do think, it is time to ask him to Walk off. I was never a fan when he got hired and after 2 years he has confirmed that he is an over rated useless coach.

Conveniently left out T20 results and CT win.

 

[Pete Rose]

Conveniently left out T20 results and CT win.

well yeah, because he wants to poop on the coach

 

[Abdullah719]

This is the worst thing about losing matches.

The calls to sack everyone, ranging from chairman, selectors, coaches and captains, to players, ballboys and waterboys, etc.

The second worst part, is the calls to bring back TTFs. "We need Hafeez, we need Imad even if he can't pass a fitness test, Umar Akmal has been unfairly dealt with" etc.

 

[Hamad_H]

ODI:
He has won a series against West Indies (2), Sri Lanka and Zimb. All of these at home

Lost to England 4-1, Australia 4-1 and New Zealand 5-0

Summary: Any time we played a good team away from the UAE we got our butt kicked


Test:
Drew twice against England, high point
Beat West indies twice
Got walloped by Australia and NewZealand
Lost to Sri Lanka int UAE....low point

That to be seems like a C or maximum C+ performance.

Seriously where is the progress under this guy? We are going in the wrong direction.

I really do think, it is time to ask him to Walk off. I was never a fan when he got hired and after 2 years he has confirmed that he is an over rated useless coach.

In fact, let me fill in some of the information left out:

T20s:
Pakistan vs. England in England (1-0 to Pakistan)
Pakistan vs. WI in UAE (3-0 to Pakistan)
Pakistan vs. WI in WI (3-1 to Pakistan)
Pakistan vs. World XI in Pakistan (2-1 to Pakistan)
Pakistan vs. Sri Lanka in UAE and Pakistan (3-0 to Pakistan)
Pakistan vs. NZ in NZ (2-1 to Pakistan)
Pakistan vs. WI in Pakistan (3-0 to Pakistan)
Pakistan vs. Scotland in Scotland (2-0 to Pakistan)
Pakistan vs. Zimbabwe vs. Australia in Zimbabwe (Pakistan wins triangular series with 4 wins and 1 loss)
Top of T20 Rankings
Unbeaten in 9/9 Series in a row
Overall record (23-4) Home (11-1) Away (12-3)

Summary: A+ Performance, some expected results against admittedly minnows mixed with results against WI (Reigning World Champions), England (Runners-up in that WC), Australia and NZ (Both strong teams) and a World XI side with some star players. I don't think any other team matches up with our record in the same period in this format.

And you missed out on that Golden Run in the CT where we beat SA, India and England in England in an unbelievable 4 game win streak after that heavy defeat. That streak happened because MA took a risk and dropped both Shehzad and Riaz after the 1st loss. He has switched up the LOI teams and we have a team with potential where as long as he can make sure the players work hard and stay grounded, we can become a good side in all formats.

I agree that results in other formats haven't been as good but surely you can see progress. Unfortunately, your post seems very biased against him due to your unfair evaluation of leaving out his greatest successes, the CT win and the T20 team.

 

[Pete Rose]

This is the worst thing about losing matches.

The calls to sack everyone, ranging from chairman, selectors, coaches and captains, to players, ballboys and waterboys, etc.

The second worst part, is the calls to bring back TTFs. "We need Hafeez, we need Imad even if he can't pass a fitness test, Umar Akmal has been unfairly dealt with" etc.

I don’t mind the fans having a go. It’s more about, historically, how easily rattled the pcb is by a few adverse news reports. That’s one thing that the pcb needs to learn from the bcci. Shield the players and Managment and completely lock out the press

 

[Abdullah719]

I don’t mind the fans having a go. It’s more about, historically, how easily rattled the pcb is by a few adverse news reports. That’s one thing that the pcb needs to learn from the bcci. Shield the players and Managment and completely lock out the press

Agreed, hope that they don't cave in to the inevitable 'media' pressure and just block it out. It's only a matter of time before people start calling for the heads of the Chief Selector/Head Coach/Captain and inclusion of certain players, that's the usual process at this point. Under Sethi, I felt that we have begun to move away from that influence and I sincerely hope that's the case with the new regime as well.

 

[Sarwar89]

Time is up for Micky Arthur in Test Arena

Micky Arthur has not done wonders in Test Arena for Pakistan.

Losing Test Series on Home soil for 2 consecutive years is very deflating.

Pakistan should opt for Mohsin Hasan Khan as Coach in Test Cricket.

 

[topspin]

Micky Arthur has not done wonders in Test Arena for Pakistan.

Losing Test Series on Home soil for 2 consecutive years is very deflating.

Pakistan should opt for Mohsin Hasan Khan as Coach in Test Cricket.

Are you actually serious?

This guy will just recycle TTFs and field an XI even worse than the rubbish we already have in the side.

 

[Sarwar89]

Are you actually serious?

This guy will just recycle TTFs and field an XI even worse than the rubbish we already have in the side.

It was under him Pakistan whitewashed then world no 1 team 3-0.

 

[topspin]

It was under him Pakistan whitewashed then world no 1 team 3-0.

We had Rehman and Ajmal who could run through bowling line ups. Younis Khan and Azhar Ali clutched in those series.

Put Mohsin Khan in charge with the current crop, you're merely asking for trouble.

Even though he was right to point out that Sarfraz shouldn't be captain couple of months back, what actually concerned me was his reasoning which was nonsensical citing that a 31 year old is too young to be captain. Shows me he has a very poor grasp of what needs to be changed in this team.

Waqar Younis will forced a culture of ultra defensive cricket and a tactical failure ever since he was captain. Mickey Arthur is the best we have and the best of all the options available.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Mickey Arthur isn’t the problem. The problem is that the CS thinks that imam is the best opener available in Pakistan. The problem is that, no matter how many changes you make with coaches, we always see the same selection mistakes (Shan masood).

 

[Mamoon]

Mickey's obsession with fake all-rounders is frustrating.

 

[Buffet]

Just play 2 proper spinners in UAE. It's not too hard to understand.

 

[coy0607]

Mickey Arthur isn’t the problem. The problem is that the CS thinks that imam is the best opener available in Pakistan. The problem is that, no matter how many changes you make with coaches, we always see the same selection mistakes (Shan masood).

Coaches can't do much when you don't have merit based selection

 

[Hasan123]

Pathetic tactic of not picking specialist spinners. The team who won this series was the 1 who picked spinners who make the team on bowling merit. Bilal is a rubbish batsmen so he doesn't even fit Arthur's bill.

His tactics in the UAE have been a disgrace.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Micky Arthur has not done wonders in Test Arena for Pakistan.

Losing Test Series on Home soil for 2 consecutive years is very deflating.

Pakistan should opt for Mohsin Hasan Khan as Coach in Test Cricket.

Mickey has done nothing wrong. It is not his duty to bat in the middle.


Younis and Misbah used to score heavily in UAE. It will take Haris & Babar sometime to score daddy hundreds in UAE.


Also Younis was phenomenal and was one of the best in Test Cricket history wrt scores in 3rd and 4th innings of Test. Pakistan is feeling his absense immensely.


If you look at this series than no way we should have lost first test from such dominating situation where we collapsed terribly in 4th innings when we should have won easily. If we won that Test which was very much in our pocket than the series would have been 2-1.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

The way Mickey/Sarfraz approach test cricket it could be their doom. Do not think that Sarfraz will survive the next tour.

 

[Markhor]

The bigger issues are that Sarfraz is not performing with the bat and has shown no tactical awareness in UAE Tests. He had the opportunity to introduce Saad Ali in this series yet persisted with Hafeez and Imam.

Meanwhile Inzamam continues to sideline Fawad Alam despite us crying out for a consistent middle order batsman with a track record of centurymaking.

Deal with these issues first before sacking yet another coach.

 

[shaz72]

Solid B-.
Cant ask for a better coach at the moment with the current lot of boys.
Which basically means the press will clamor for his removal and we will go to the world cup with umar akmal, ahmed shehzad, malik, and hafeez.

Even if you bring XYZ best of the best coach of the world you can't change Pakistan cricket batting fortune. It will require another decade or so if we start from today to bring at par with other cricket playing nation just look at how fast Afghanistan has change specially in batting department, They are producing good cricketers and Bangladesh at-lease in there back yard bat better than Pakistan comparatively. WE have to change role model we simply give importance only to bowling that's it and obsessed. Did we hear any talent hunt for batsmen. Get ready for more humiliation in SA tour, to get away from this humiliation either rain god or natural help from heaven can only save us. I may sound to negative but it's reality.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Unless you put a bat in Mickey Arthur's hand and ask him to go out and score a century, I don't see how he can make much difference. The batting keeps failing because the batsmen are poor quality and get found out by international class bowlers.

 

[ARK Rafay]

Maybe a little above average. But atm Not the best, nor the worst