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Misbah-ul-Haq - Pakistan's greatest ever batter while being Captain

Khan12 said:
Misbah is one of the worst odi batsmens ever and decent test batsmen at best. LMAO proven his worth as odi captain. As soon as he retired we won champions trophy which is bigger then any misbahs achievements in odis.
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We won champions trophy in summer of 2017, Misbah played his last odi in 2015. That's 2 years after, so clearly not 'as soon as he retired'
 
daytrader said:
We won champions trophy in summer of 2017, Misbah played his last odi in 2015. That's 2 years after, so clearly not 'as soon as he retired'
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That was the first major tournament after his retirement

Misbah was a terrible ODI player and captan.

Tests he was a good defensive captain and good batsmen who knew his limitations i
 
BoomBoomCricket said:
You think he couldn't play more explosively if he wanted or the team needed him?
Faisalabad Wolves hit 13 Sixes in the Champions League T20 in 2013 from 3 games.
All of them were hit by Misbah.
He was a big six hitter of spin.
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He maybe very good for Pak team that time but he's very limited bat..
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The higher he bat his SR suffers.. Also he's not good when Pak are in top position.. Didn't Wasim Akram (?) say something like this, Misbah is a player for 30-3, not 180-3..?
 
Slog said:
That was the first major tournament after his retirement

Misbah was a terrible ODI player and captan.

Tests he was a good defensive captain and good batsmen who knew his limitations i
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And 2 years after the champions trophy we got thrashed by WI in the odi WC. That's 4 years of no Misbah and we're still no better in LOIs
 
daytrader said:
And 2 years after the champions trophy we got thrashed by WI in the odi WC. That's 4 years of no Misbah and we're still no better in LOIs
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forget about world cup. Right after the champions trophy they got destroyed in the Asia cup by india who proved that 2017 final loss was just an aberration.

even in 2017 they did get smashed In the group fixture.
 
tyron_woodley said:
forget about world cup. Right after the champions trophy they got destroyed in the Asia cup by india who proved that 2017 final loss was just an aberration.

even in 2017 they did get smashed In the group fixture.
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And losing 5-0 to NZ lol.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
And losing 5-0 to NZ lol.
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Damn. I forgot about that. Generally teams don't give important to bilaterals but you cant lose 5 0.

Either way misbah was a lion hearted gritty tough lad.
Best captain from Asia with limited resources he had at His disposal.

At home in tests his team was very difficult to beat. Only india under kohli could have stopped them in Asia.

Away record was terrible yes but he still drew in england and n.z iirc. Australia and south africa has always been difficult tours for pakistan. Infact even the greatest Pakistani side of 97-2003 lost handily to south africa and australia away and at home too. May have drawn vs the saffers at home from what i recall.

So people can't be faulting misbah for underperforming vs the saffers and Aussies with an inferior side. Besides they were only inferior away from home.

They absolutely thrashed saffers and especially the Aussies at home under misbah.
 
misbah took pakistan to number 1 in TESTS.
Top 3 in odi
won t20 world cup.
semi finals in world cup odi
 
misbah took pakistan to number 1 in TESTS.
Top 3 in odi
won t20 world cup.
semi finals in world cup odi

I would take misbah over kohli, imran, inzi and dhoni anyday as my captain in tests anyday. I admit misbah is not s good odi player. Too slow lol but that doesn't mean he can't captain the odi side. His tactical nous, ability to exctract the best out of every player, ability to survive on one end as a batsman, field settings, fitness level makes him an ideal captain.

like I said watch his training videos. He runs 10 miles at age 43. Fittest freak of nature in cricket. Dude is an absolute animal.
 
BoomBoomCricket said:
[MENTION=143714]Kroll[/MENTION] At least acknowledge how well Misbah performed with the bat while being Captain in ODIs. Leading ODI run scorer worldwide in 2013 and was by far and away Pakistan's stand out batsman and top run getter in the 2013 Champions Trophy and 2015 World Cup while captaining the side. He was ranked in the top 10 in the ICC ODI batting rankings aged 40 when he bowed out of the game. This deserves respect and appreciation.

Even Wasim Akram and Imran Khan wouldn't have been good ODI captains in the modern era i.e. both were continuously supporting and pushing for Younis Khan's selection despite repeated failures from him in the format. They didn't get modern cricket.

Been 5 years since Misbah left ODIs and we've not won an ODI series vs Eng, Aus, SA or NZ since. Misbah's proven his worth as a white ball Captain in addition to his Test accomplishments through his own batting performance and by winning The Asia Cup, Faysal Bank T20 2013 and 2 PSL titles.
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I don’t agree with that Imran/Wasim comment. A good cricket captain is a good cricket mind, a learning mind. They led their sides based on the then context - they could have easily adopted with the changing rules/context of the game. Both had three qualities that are like 99% of captaincy - 1. They were leaders, command respect from team, 2. They had a functioning brain that learned new things with every experience and most importantly 3. Both were champion cricketers, could lead from the front. Some of the tactics we see recent days was applied by IK 30 years back - he was the first to send a pinch hitter in power play (Salim Yousuf), he comprised WKeeping for batting depth (kept with Amir Malik, dropping Yousuf). PAK used ARazzak at 3 in WC 1999, which was quite an innovation that time.

Coming to YK - I don’t see any problem in that. (Asking for his inclusion). It was the role that PCT asked from YK didn’t fit suit him, not he he was unfit for ODI/T20. YK was a Test No. 3, whose primary task was to build innings from top and try to play for long innings, often against new ball and sometimes almost like an opener. His weakness at #3 was his poor start, which he could compensate in Test buying time (even in Test, he looked poor at the start of almost every innings) but struggled in ODI, which demands more dynamic batting from start. In his peak few years, he was a brilliant ODI player as well and scored three crucial hundreds in chases.

If either of those two were Captain, YK would have played many more games but at a different role - at No. 6. YK is a brilliant runner, extremely fit, a very good selective hitter and a proper batsman whose shot productivity (opposite index of dot ball) is very high - a perfect player for no. 6; who had multiple gears for different situations and a very good head on shoulders. I believe, in a low scoring game at Docklands (Melbourne), in summer of 2002, he chased a target against that Australian side clinically, from 5/6. Haven’t checked, but my hunch is, his stats at 5/6 could be surprisingly better than we think.

For best part of YKs career, he played in the most rigid and unimaginative PAK side, who never thought anything out side the box - if YK is to play, be at 3 or not .... and Afridi to finish from 7. A switch of positions - YK as finisher at 6 and Afridi as a floating pinch hitter between 1 to 8, depending on opponents (& condition), output could have been much better.
 
On this day Misbah ul Haq scored his first of 8 Test centuries as Captain in the West Indies in a Test Pakistan went on to win by 196 runs to square the series.

https://www.pcb.com.pk/pakistan-in-west-indies-2011/match/15229.html

Interesting thing about Misbah's Test centuries:
Most by a Pakistan Captain.
None vs Bangladesh or Zimbabwe, but at least one against everyone else.
None of the 10 centuries came in defeat.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Graeme Swann on commentary regarding Misbah-ul-Haq "he had very little foot movement, but possibly the best I played against when it came to exceptional hand/eye co-ordination" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/U19CWC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#U19CWC</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1487120268137054208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2022</a></blockquote>
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KARACHI: Former Pakistan captain and head coach – Misbah Ul Haq, while talking to the media said his son Faham Ul Haq should not be associated with him as a cricketer, here on Tuesday.

Misbah, in a media interaction, emphasized that his son Faham is a cricketer like any other cricketer, and requested that he should be associated with the former captain.

“My son is also a cricketer like ordinary cricketers,” he said.

“He should not be associated with me,” he added.

It must be noted here that Faham recently scored an unbeaten century in the ongoing Under-16 national ODI tournament and made headlines.

The 47-years-old also acknowledged the importance of intercollegiate cricket tournaments and said it is important to bring talented young cricketers to the forefront.

“The intercollegiate cricket tournament is important for grass-root cricket,” he said.

“Talented players will emerge from this tournament,” he added.

Misbah also opined about Australia’s historic tour to Pakistan after a gap of 24 years and said the tour will be vital for the Test-playing nations.

“I think it is very welcoming that Australia is touring Pakistan after a long time,” he said.

“Apart from the leagues, participation of big teams in Test cricket is important for the longest format of the game,” he added.

https://a-sports.tv/my-son-should-not-associated-me-as-cricketer-misbah-ul-haq/
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 2016. Scenes at Lord's as Pakistan beat England by 75 runs. The squad celebrated the victory by doing push-ups to thank the Army trainers who had worked with the players at a camp in Abbottabad before the tour <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://t.co/t5dNu6aqVI">pic.twitter.com/t5dNu6aqVI</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1548586541991223298?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Talent or ability wise, Misbah was never as good as Younis, Miandad, Hanif, Inzi, Zaheer Abbas, Salim Malik, Saeed Anwar, Yousuf. But man, I always loved watching him bat in test matches. He had such an imposing presence, standing at 6'6 or however tall he is, great stance....he played spin-bowling with so much authority and confidence. And when he was on-song (or not in SouthAfrica or Australia) he was just as good of a player of pace. The centuries against India in India (one of my first memories of him), the fastest test century of all-time against Australia where he buried Mitch Johnson and co. in the Abu Dhabi dust, the famous century at Lord's, the half-century in the maghrib chase, the two snail-paced 99s in his final tests against West Indies. Misbah gave plenty of memorable moments in what was a golden period for Pakistan test cricket in many ways. Especially considering the lack of match-winners we had in the team at that time and the fact that we couldn't play cricket at home. He also thrived as captain considering he averaged 51 and scored 4200 of his 5200 runs while he was leading Pakistan.
 
Watched a bit.. I’m very concerned PCB might do a usman khan & bring back misba wahab afridi after they hit a few boundary’s & wickets.. such is the standard of Pak cricket these days.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Talent or ability wise, Misbah was never as good as Younis, Miandad, Hanif, Inzi, Zaheer Abbas, Salim Malik, Saeed Anwar, Yousuf. But man, I always loved watching him bat in test matches. He had such an imposing presence, standing at 6'6 or however tall he is, great stance....he played spin-bowling with so much authority and confidence. And when he was on-song (or not in SouthAfrica or Australia) he was just as good of a player of pace. The centuries against India in India (one of my first memories of him), the fastest test century of all-time against Australia where he buried Mitch Johnson and co. in the Abu Dhabi dust, the famous century at Lord's, the half-century in the maghrib chase, the two snail-paced 99s in his final tests against West Indies. Misbah gave plenty of memorable moments in what was a golden period for Pakistan test cricket in many ways. Especially considering the lack of match-winners we had in the team at that time and the fact that we couldn't play cricket at home. He also thrived as captain considering he averaged 51 and scored 4200 of his 5200 runs while he was leading Pakistan.
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Completely agree although I don't think he is 6'6. Maybe 6'1 I think I was taller than him when I met him.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Up until the final ball against India in that illfated T20 world cup Misbah had the greatest run by any Pak batsman in an ICC tournament.

He then went into his shell big time in LOIS.
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As a young fan watching that tournament, who wasn't aware of his previous track-record in domestic or for Pakistan, it was amazing seeing a Pakistani batter come in and just play that way in an ICC tournament. Especially in a format that was so new and in the aftermath of the 2007 CWC, which had been painful to watch. As far as that tournament is concerned, he will always be remembered for one thing in that tournament but that is how it goes in sports.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Yeah I thought about that after writing that lol. 6'6 is Undertaker height. He is definitely 6'1.
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Undertaker is 6'8. His height in wwe is listed as 6'11 because he wears high boots and wwe always amps heights. But in an interview he said he was 6'8 and it was confirmed.
 
mominsaigol said:
Undertaker is 6'8. His height in wwe is listed as 6'11 because he wears high boots and wwe always amps heights. But in an interview he said he was 6'8 and it was confirmed.
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Yes you are correct. I was wrong again. Taker was always one of the tallest. He was deffo 6'8. 6'6 is probably close to Hogan. I think he's like 6'7.
 
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