Modi has dodged every failure till date but will Covid-19 mismanagement be final nail in the coffin?

[Bhaijaan]

His stock value was on a steady decline from 2014 to 2018 as a result of a very poor to mediocre show in stearing the economy, besides helping in creating communal divide with irreversible impact on India's social fabric.

In 2019, he recovered much of his fame as a national leader once again by strategically playing Anti-Pakistan card just before the election against a fragmented opposition.

However, 2020 came with Covid 19 and it might just be the final nail in the coffin for Modi.

Covid19 pandemic has exposed how insensitive and anti people the Modi government and much of its paid media is.

After surviving all his disasterous policies and mismanagement of epic proportions, if this cannot displace Modi, then probably nothing ever will.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

He can always blame it on Muslims and let his goons "vent their anger".

I means he is already going all Nazi in Indian Occupied Kashmir...

 

[RajBan]

His stock value was on a steady decline from 2014 to 2018 as a result of a very poor to mediocre show in stearing the economy, besides helping in creating communal divide with irreversible impact on India's social fabric.

In 2019, he recovered much of his fame as a national leader once again by strategically playing Anti-Pakistan card just before the election against a fragmented opposition.

However, 2020 came with Covid 19 and it might just be the final nail in the coffin for Modi.

Covid19 pandemic has exposed how insensitive and anti people the Modi government and much of its paid media is.

After surviving all his disasterous policies and mismanagement of epic proportions, if this cannot displace Modi, then probably nothing ever will.

Good point. Who do you think can replace the incumbent and offer better governance.

 

[Bhaijaan]

He can always blame it on Muslims and let his goons "vent their anger".

I means he is already going all Nazi in Indian Occupied Kashmir...

They tried to do just that brother. Tablighi Jamaat became the hottest topic on all news channels in the beginning of lockdown as the media tried it's best to make muslims scapegoat for Coronavirus spread in India.

But my Indian Muslim brothers then bowled a reverse swinging yorker. They started donating plasma for the benefit of Covid patients. Muslims started hitting the streets to help the needy.

BJP did not recover from it and their mismanagement of the situation in India has really got exposed big time.

 

[Bhaijaan]

In a pandemic or a natural disaster, a government can afford to look helpless.but they cannot afford to look anti people.

BJP has really shot itself in the foot during these 2 months.

On one hand they boast about their preparedness and aon the other side they have totally ignored the poor labour class of India.

Bihar elections are just around the corner and BJP seems absolutely rattled already because they know Biharis have been among the people who have suffered the most and the worst part of it for them is that thousands and thousands of these people are heading back to Bihar and will be geared up to vent their amber and frustrations during elections when the voting day comes.

This is the worst time for any incumbent govt to have an election.

 

[cricket.mad]

He has failed economy..no doubt..but I will again vote for modi...can you even think off what the congees will do with their secularism diatribes..just can't watch them sucking up to minority appeasement anymore ..minorities are to be treated respectfully..agreed..but just can't bear Congress party's nautkanis

 

[MenInG]

These sort of situations are always lose-lose for people - only 10 years from now will true implications be known

 

[Firebat]

I think the lack of viable opposition is just as important for Modi staying in power than his actual success.

 

[Bilal_103]

These sort of situations are always lose-lose for people - only 10 years from now will true implications be known

Pakistan is still reeling from the affects of turning the country too much right wing. These dynamics shift slowly.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistan is still reeling from the affects of turning the country too much right wing. These dynamics shift slowly.

I think right wing politics doesn't have a long future in India.

Islamic issues are driven by very serious global politics.

Hindutva politics on the other hand is driven by a false sense of fear to gain short term political goals.

We are into 6th year of BJP government and it must be noted that India did not initially vote Modi into power on Hindutva agenda. Modi won the 2014 election on an economic growth agenda driven campaign.

It is around 2015-16 that people realized that Modi wave was all but a huge marketing propaganda by big corporates

From 2016 onwards, Modi changed his agenda from economic reforms to hindu nationalism.

So technically , we are into 3-4 years of fascism in India and it has already sent BJP into backfoot.

They are running out of cards fast.

 

[Rajdeep]

PM Modi Holds Highest 'Approval Rating' Among World Leaders Handling the Pandemic: Report

According to a poll published by 'Morning Consult', Prime Minister Narendra Modi holds the highest approval rating as a politician, amid a selection of other world leaders.

However, there has been only a slight improvement in Modi's rating, as it was still high before the coronavirus pandemic struck India, a report by Moneycontrol stated.

Seventy four per cent of Indians had approved of their PM on March 17, and this number was up only by a mere 8 per cent to 82 per cent on May 19.

Other world leaders whose popularity among citizens improved during the Covid-19 outbreak, were Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison and German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

While British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s was being treated for coronavirus in April, his approval rating increased. But it crept back to 55 per cent in May, amid increasing Covid-19 deaths in the country.

This resulted in just a 9 per cent approval increase increase for Johnson.

What's surprising is that despite US leading with the highest number of coronavirus cases and deaths, Trump's approval ratings have remained steady throughout the pandemic.

On the other hand, Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro's ratings have gown down. Possible reasons could be his dismissal towards the social distancing norms being followed across the world, even as cases and deaths continue to rise in Brazil. It has gone down by 17 percentage points since March.

https://www.news18.com/news/india/p...ers-handling-the-pandemic-report-2639551.html

Interesting.

 

[big_gamer007]

The paid media and social media wing will make it sound like a huge success by Modi government and most casuals along with Bh@kts will accept that.

 

[Rajdeep]

The paid media and social media wing will make it sound like a huge success by Modi government and most casuals along with Bh@kts will accept that.

The survey was published by Morning Consult which is a global data intelligence company delivering insights on what people think in real time. It is based in USA and headquarters in Washington DC.

You mean Morning Consult is a paid media run by bhakts??

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson's approval has dropped 11 points since April 14. <a href="https://t.co/ryjCjfArJZ">https://t.co/ryjCjfArJZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/mRjtF9T84o">pic.twitter.com/mRjtF9T84o</a></p>— Morning Consult (@MorningConsult) <a href="https://twitter.com/MorningConsult/status/1263569000090361857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Syed1]

The survey was published by Morning Consult which is a global data intelligence company delivering insights on what people think in real time. It is based in USA and headquarters in Washington DC.

You mean Morning Consult is a paid media run by bhakts??

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson's approval has dropped 11 points since April 14. <a href="https://t.co/ryjCjfArJZ">https://t.co/ryjCjfArJZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/mRjtF9T84o">pic.twitter.com/mRjtF9T84o</a></p>— Morning Consult (@MorningConsult) <a href="https://twitter.com/MorningConsult/status/1263569000090361857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They don't even have 30,000 followers on Twitter, and their own website says founded just 6 years ago... talk about repute


Modi bhakhts scrapping at the bottom of every possible barrel to get any semblance of vindication

 

[cricketjoshila]

The paid media and social media wing will make it sound like a huge success by Modi government and most casuals along with Bh@kts will accept that.

Then elections will decide his fate. No?

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Nah,in the next general election bjp will dominate yet again but it can be the last nail in the coffin for INC.
Bjp made sure that somehow they convert this covid 19 situation into a plus point with the help of biased media.

As for 'liberals' , its high time that they realise that majority of indians will never ever agree with their principles and they will never be a major force. The ideas of nationalism has been ingrained into the minds of indian public since a long time and it won't change.

So basically it will be yet another phainta for the congressis and the liberals.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Too many Hindu extremists in India now. Even the young educated ones inc Indians living abroad have become extreme.

All Modi has to do is attack Muslims, he will win again.

However I dont think Modi will be the next PM, it will be another BJP extremist, likey Amit Shah.

 

[Lonewarrior]

How Modi Failed the Pandemic Test

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/opinion/india-modi-coronavirus.html

 

[Belawal2014]

Cases rising daily in India. Total mismanagement by Modi..

 

[Swashbuckler]

Though Modi has been a complete disaster for India these last 6 years tough to blame only him for the current Corona situation. We aren't doing that bad per se and when discussing unfortunate incidents like migrant crisis, opposition leaders too carry a lot of blame. Congress hasn't set itself apart in dealing with this situation in states where it is in power, couple of regional parties have done better but they aren't the ones who can displace him in 2024. Many regional leaders have been complete flops and even more insensitive, look at Mamta of Bengal.

Only Congress can force a decisive change and it hasn't covered itself in glory during this crisis, first thing they must kick out the Nehru family. I would prefer even some of those regional clowns over Modi/Shah in centre but have to be practical, these extremists are here to stay in New Delhi at least till 2029. All up to Congress now, can they rise up to the challenge and stop being so selfish and cowardly?

 

[Swashbuckler]

2026 delimitation will boost BJP at the political level, Hindi belt seats are set to increase at the expense of states like TN, Kerala, Andhra. We are being punished for controlling our population much better than those states where BJP is strong. Task cut out for those who oppose BJP. The economic centre of gravity is shifting south and the political centre of gravity is shifting north, so unfair !!!!!

 

[Bigboii]

https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=a...lZmZhMjAtMzdjYi0xMWVhLTg2ZTctMTdhZDVjNWQxNGY5
Podcast's name is Narendra Modi, And India's Weird Nazi Obsession

This man is truly EVIL
PLEASE listen to the podcast atleast from the halfway mark!!!

It explains his beliefs, his evil role in Gujrat riots it will truly make any person with a soul winse

I HIGHLY recommend listening to this podcast to understand him and what sort of a person he is

and after listening to this I think he is a political cockroach who can survive anything thrown at him so Covid won't do anything

 

[MP2011]

https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=a...lZmZhMjAtMzdjYi0xMWVhLTg2ZTctMTdhZDVjNWQxNGY5
Podcast's name is Narendra Modi, And India's Weird Nazi Obsession

This man is truly EVIL
PLEASE listen to the podcast atleast from the halfway mark!!!

It explains his beliefs, his evil role in Gujrat riots it will truly make any person with a soul winse

I HIGHLY recommend listening to this podcast to understand him and what sort of a person he is

and after listening to this I think he is a political cockroach who can survive anything thrown at him so Covid won't do anything

Anyone having half a braincell and ounce of empathy for others know that already. However it's our misfortune that such people are in minority in India. And hence, such cockroaches have a free reign in current day India.

 

[Varun]

Good riddance if he is.

 

[Slog]

I don’t get why approval ratings are seen as a sign of success?

Just because the public (which is largely uneducated) says you’re doing a good job doesn’t mean you’re actually doing it.

Approval ratings are an important metric but not be all and end all.

 

[Rajdeep]

I don’t get why approval ratings are seen as a sign of success?

Just because the public (which is largely uneducated) says you’re doing a good job doesn’t mean you’re actually doing it.

Approval ratings are an important metric but not be all and end all.

That is because the meaning of democracy is - 'For the people....by the people' where Prime Minister is a public servant. I know this definition was not followed during Congress era where democracy meant 'For the family...by the family' but they are long gone. Public is kingmaker in a democracy and their opinion counts the most.

The fact that Modi has highest approval rating among all global leaders meaning most people (83%) in India are happy with him as the PM. All that we read/hear in media good or bad are agenda. Its people's opinion that matters most.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

That is because the meaning of democracy is - 'For the people....by the people' where Prime Minister is a public servant. I know this definition was not followed during Congress era where democracy meant 'For the family...by the family' but they are long gone. Public is kingmaker in a democracy and their opinion counts the most.

The fact that Modi has highest approval rating among all global leaders meaning most people (83%) in India are happy with him as the PM.All that we read/hear in media good or bad are agenda. Its people's opinion that matters most.

Bas karo bhaijaan.

 

[big_gamer007]

Then elections will decide his fate. No?

BJP will win elections by a decent margin unless something catastrophic happens for them.

Just because one wins elections doesn't mean their failures or misdeeds shouldn't be highlighted.

 

[big_gamer007]

Though Modi has been a complete disaster for India these last 6 years tough to blame only him for the current Corona situation. We aren't doing that bad per se and when discussing unfortunate incidents like migrant crisis, opposition leaders too carry a lot of blame. Congress hasn't set itself apart in dealing with this situation in states where it is in power, couple of regional parties have done better but they aren't the ones who can displace him in 2024. Many regional leaders have been complete flops and even more insensitive, look at Mamta of Bengal.

Only Congress can force a decisive change and it hasn't covered itself in glory during this crisis, first thing they must kick out the Nehru family. I would prefer even some of those regional clowns over Modi/Shah in centre but have to be practical, these extremists are here to stay in New Delhi at least till 2029. All up to Congress now, can they rise up to the challenge and stop being so selfish and cowardly?

Regional ones are the worst of all. Imagine having Shri Mayawati Ji as our PM.

Whatever little wealth we have will disappear in the blink of an eye.

 

[big_gamer007]

Bas karo bhaijaan.

I think this guy is new to his job, I really commend his passion for his job. I hope he gets a decent raise, he deserves it.

Reminds me when I just started working, I had full passion and gutso to do well.

 

[Square Drive]

Too many Hindu extremists in India now. Even the young educated ones inc Indians living abroad have become extreme.

All Modi has to do is attack Muslims, he will win again.

However I dont think Modi will be the next PM, it will be another BJP extremist, likey Amit Shah.

Have noticed this as well, unfortunately.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Nah,in the next general election bjp will dominate yet again but it can be the last nail in the coffin for INC.
Bjp made sure that somehow they convert this covid 19 situation into a plus point with the help of biased media.

As for 'liberals' , its high time that they realise that majority of indians will never ever agree with their principles and they will never be a major force. The ideas of nationalism has been ingrained into the minds of indian public since a long time and it won't change.

So basically it will be yet another phainta for the congressis and the liberals.

Right now the only people who are getting phainta are the migrant workers and the middle class population of India. Since you are one of those blind bhakt you won't see this.

Bhakhto ghanti pakro aur bolo Narendra Modi Maharaj ki...Jai.

 

[Rajdeep]

I think this guy is new to his job, I really commend his passion for his job. I hope he gets a decent raise, he deserves it.

Reminds me when I just started working, I had full passion and gutso to do well.

You see thats the difference. You support a party because you consider it as a job but I support because I believe in their ideology.

I totally believe that Congress was the worst thing to have happened to India and should have been disbanded after independence.

I truely believe that it was Nehru and only Nehru who was responsible for the Kashmir problem. If Sardar Patel was our 1st Prime Minister, there would be no Kashmir issue today and India-Pakistan would be great friends.

I genuinely believe there can never be true Europe style secularism in Indian and for far too long Indian liberals have sold minority appeasement in the name of secularism.

And lastly, I honestly believe Narendra Modi is the best PM India ever had who can take India to greater heights.


Not for a minute I am saying my beliefs has to be right, I can be totally wrong. But it is my belief and I am stuck to it.

 

[Varun]

The only thing that should have happened after independence is that we should have broken into smaller, more manageable chunks which among other things would have meant that you would be sitting on your haunches and chewing paan in Bihar-UP and not leaching my tax money like a bottomless pit.
Oof

 

[Syed1]

The only thing that should have happened after independence is that we should have broken into smaller, more manageable chunks which among other things would have meant that you would be sitting on your haunches and chewing paan in Bihar-UP and not leaching my tax money like a bottomless pit.

Oof :

 

[CricketCartoons]

The only thing that should have happened after independence is that we should have broken into smaller, more manageable chunks which among other things would have meant that you would be sitting on your haunches and chewing paan in Bihar-UP and not leaching my tax money like a bottomless pit.
Oof

Every state should have got article 370, like it was given to J&K.

In 2050, 50% of indians will be from Bihar, UP, MP, Rajasthan and Haryana. This population will decide who sits in the parliament, and this population will also migrate to other states, to bring some paan-gutka to the district nearest to you.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You see thats the difference. You support a party because you consider it as a job but I support because I believe in their ideology.

I totally believe that Congress was the worst thing to have happened to India and should have been disbanded after independence.

I truely believe that it was Nehru and only Nehru who was responsible for the Kashmir problem. If Sardar Patel was our 1st Prime Minister, there would be no Kashmir issue today and India-Pakistan would be great friends.

I genuinely believe there can never be true Europe style secularism in Indian and for far too long Indian liberals have sold minority appeasement in the name of secularism.

And lastly, I honestly believe Narendra Modi is the best PM India ever had who can take India to greater heights.


Not for a minute I am saying my beliefs has to be right, I can be totally wrong. But it is my belief and I am stuck to it.

If Modi is really the greatest ever Indian PM, then he can fix the Kashmir problem and India and Pakistan can still be great friends.

 

[Napa]

His stock value was on a steady decline from 2014 to 2018 as a result of a very poor to mediocre show in stearing the economy, besides helping in creating communal divide with irreversible impact on India's social fabric.

In 2019, he recovered much of his fame as a national leader once again by strategically playing Anti-Pakistan card just before the election against a fragmented opposition.

However, 2020 came with Covid 19 and it might just be the final nail in the coffin for Modi.

Covid19 pandemic has exposed how insensitive and anti people the Modi government and much of its paid media is.

After surviving all his disasterous policies and mismanagement of epic proportions, if this cannot displace Modi, then probably nothing ever will.

Modi has done a good job fighting the virus. While a few mistakes have been made, his supporters do not expect perfection.

Modi is not to blame that someone in another country ate an undercooked bat and plunged the world into this crisis. Nor is Modi God that he would have been able to make sure no Indian suffered as a consequence.

Modi critics are grasping at straws but the Indians I speak with, and many were not his supporters to start with, say the government has done what was necessary.

 

[Napa]

The only thing that should have happened after independence is that we should have broken into smaller, more manageable chunks which among other things would have meant that you would be sitting on your haunches and chewing paan in Bihar-UP and not leaching my tax money like a bottomless pit.
Oof

You really should be ashamed of posting stuff like this. I suppose this is your standard now.

 

[gani999]

You really should be ashamed of posting stuff like this. I suppose this is your standard now.

The lockdown is taking its toll on people in India, I suppose. The vitriol on either side of the left-right divide is flowing like never before.

 

[big_gamer007]

You see thats the difference. You support a party because you consider it as a job but I support because I believe in their ideology.

I totally believe that Congress was the worst thing to have happened to India and should have been disbanded after independence.

I truely believe that it was Nehru and only Nehru who was responsible for the Kashmir problem. If Sardar Patel was our 1st Prime Minister, there would be no Kashmir issue today and India-Pakistan would be great friends.

I genuinely believe there can never be true Europe style secularism in Indian and for far too long Indian liberals have sold minority appeasement in the name of secularism.

And lastly, I honestly believe Narendra Modi is the best PM India ever had who can take India to greater heights.


Not for a minute I am saying my beliefs has to be right, I can be totally wrong. But it is my belief and I am stuck to it.

I don't support a party, I support what is right and what is for betterment of the country. No party achieves that, all are selfish and fool people for their own benefits. One can give BJP votes as they might the lesser of all evils but bh@kti is something else.

Regarding you, it's clear it's your job and you are passionate about it. I commend you for the same. However, I am surprised you are hiding the fact, seems you are embarrassed being part of the online BJP army?

I mean it's a honest job, (even though it's selling the nation and taking it back decades) so it's surprising you would be ashamed of it.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The most AMAZING part about Modi is that this dude gets OWNED every single challenge.

There is not a single reputable source that praises his policies.

I personally LOVE that he gets humiliated every single time and his supporters have to try hard to bring bogus tangents to defend him.

Only thing going for him is elections and that too cos the opposition were a bunch of brainless morons. Even that is changing slowly but surely.

2024 will be a good challenge. If Congress regroups and strategizes properly, BJP can be defeated.

Apart from Hindu-Muslim angle, these jobbers have nothing else to offer.

All they do is LIE and DEFLECT all day long.

But as with anything in life, no schtick no matter how useful, can last forever.

And BJP's won't last too.

What they don't realize is that they have crossed all limits during their tenure.

The moment they lose, it will be time for RETRIBUTION (in the legal route).

And it won't be pretty.

All the blind sychophants of BJP will be chased and hunted to the point they will grovel and beg for mercy.

Might sound dramatic but that's EXACTLY what will happen.

Already Arnab and Zee are getting a teeny tiny taste of what is to come.

What will happen will happen.

Either in 2024 or worst case, in 2029.

But will happen.

But the best part won't be that. It would be how the world will remember Modi.

2014 he was a rockstar.

2020 he is considered incompetent.

2030 he will be known for what he truly is.

A miserable, incompetent & evil man who managed to con an entire nation.

Will take time but will happen.

Truth eventually comes out.

 

[Syed1]

Guys what happened to 'six times larger than Shanghai' new city Modi promised a few years ago.. will they issue international work permits for working in the most advanced city in the world?

 

[Slog]

You see thats the difference. You support a party because you consider it as a job but I support because I believe in their ideology.

I totally believe that Congress was the worst thing to have happened to India and should have been disbanded after independence.

I truely believe that it was Nehru and only Nehru who was responsible for the Kashmir problem. If Sardar Patel was our 1st Prime Minister, there would be no Kashmir issue today and India-Pakistan would be great friends.

I genuinely believe there can never be true Europe style secularism in Indian and for far too long Indian liberals have sold minority appeasement in the name of secularism.

And lastly, I honestly believe Narendra Modi is the best PM India ever had who can take India to greater heights.


Not for a minute I am saying my beliefs has to be right, I can be totally wrong. But it is my belief and I am stuck to it.

Your last sentence is very telling.

 

[Mesozoic]

The only thing that should have happened after independence is that we should have broken into smaller, more manageable chunks which among other things would have meant that you would be sitting on your haunches and chewing paan in Bihar-UP and not leaching my tax money like a bottomless pit.
Oof

I sincerely hope your life gets better if this was not sarcastic.

 

[Slog]

And lastly, I honestly believe Narendra Modi is the best PM India ever had who can take India to greater heights.


Not for a minute I am saying my beliefs has to be right, I can be totally wrong. But it is my belief and I am stuck to it.

Why do you believe so?

Just because you like your country doesn’t mean you should be blind to its issues and act as if no problems exist.

I asked this yesterday:

"FDI in India has been stagnating (despite ease of business ranking improvement), rail freight traffic has declined by a third & infrastructure investment index has been low for years (pointing to the declining state of economic activity), unemployment is at record highs, GDP growth is slowing, core inflation is up, trade balance has been on negative trajectory over 5 years . And the kicker here is that most of this is all before the COVID crisis. So these numbers are only going to get worse in the short term at the very least due to COVID.

So I’m just curious to know. What is your bullishness based on?"

On a broader scale. What has been achieved in the tenure to say that this is why he is the best PM for India or even the best choice currently? Even stuff like CAA, NRC, Article 370 have been bungled in the sense that the reaction has been negative (regardless of whether it was right or wrong decision).

I like to contrast this with Trump supporters. That many has many faults too and is a bit of an idiot no doubt. But If you ask Trump supporters the same question; then pre-corona they could point to the economy, historic low unemployment rate, better trade deals, manufacturing jobs moving back. What could Modi supporters say in same vein?

 

[Slog]

I sincerely hope your life gets better if this was not sarcastic.

nothing wrong with it. Many people hold same views both for India and Pakistan. India itself is an artificial entity created by the British Raj for administrative purposes otherwise there are dozens of ethnic nations within it. Anyways thats a totally different topic.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I sincerely hope your life gets better if this was not sarcastic.

For that he has to start working as an internet warrior for BJP bro. It's simple you are lucky, he isn't.

 

[MP2011]

The most AMAZING part about Modi is that this dude gets OWNED every single challenge.

There is not a single reputable source that praises his policies.

I personally LOVE that he gets humiliated every single time and his supporters have to try hard to bring bogus tangents to defend him.

Only thing going for him is elections and that too cos the opposition were a bunch of brainless morons. Even that is changing slowly but surely.

2024 will be a good challenge. If Congress regroups and strategizes properly, BJP can be defeated.

Apart from Hindu-Muslim angle, these jobbers have nothing else to offer.

All they do is LIE and DEFLECT all day long.

But as with anything in life, no schtick no matter how useful, can last forever.

And BJP's won't last too.

What they don't realize is that they have crossed all limits during their tenure.

The moment they lose, it will be time for RETRIBUTION (in the legal route).

And it won't be pretty.

All the blind sychophants of BJP will be chased and hunted to the point they will grovel and beg for mercy.

Might sound dramatic but that's EXACTLY what will happen.

Already Arnab and Zee are getting a teeny tiny taste of what is to come.

What will happen will happen.

Either in 2024 or worst case, in 2029.

But will happen.

But the best part won't be that. It would be how the world will remember Modi.

2014 he was a rockstar.

2020 he is considered incompetent.

2030 he will be known for what he truly is.

A miserable, incompetent & evil man who managed to con an entire nation.

Will take time but will happen.

Truth eventually comes out.

Well said, SIF.

I won't ever understand as to why so many apparently literate will worship this incompetent, illiterate and religious bigot. I mean, apart from religious bigotry what else does this creature offer?

He is not the major problem, however his blind bhakts are the root cause of all evils plaguing our country.

 

[Mesozoic]

nothing wrong with it. Many people hold same views both for India and Pakistan. India itself is an artificial entity created by the British Raj for administrative purposes otherwise there are dozens of ethnic nations within it. Anyways thats a totally different topic.

Literally every country on this planet is an artificial entity with artificial borders drawn by the "administrators".

If we start breaking up nations on ethnicity, not a single country will remain the way they're now.

 

[Slog]

Literally every country on this planet is an artificial entity with artificial borders drawn by the "administrators".

If we start breaking up nations on ethnicity, not a single country will remain the way they're now.

That is not true esp in Europe or East Asia and lot of Africa too. One ethnic group is always the dominant one in terms of percentage and around who’s identity the country’s identity is built. Bangladesh, Serbia, Afghanistan, Thailand, Vietnam, China, Scandinavian countries...

Anyways my point is it’s not some blasphemy to suggest what Varun did and many people including India’s favorite Tarek Fatah believe that. You guys acted as if he had abused Ram
Or sth

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I hope I am not misusing my freedom of speech here:

India's unemployment rate hits 26% amid lockdown, 14 crore lose employment: CMIE

The rate of unemployment in rural India stands higher at 26.7 per cent as against urban 25.1 per cent.

India's unemployment rate rose to 26.2 per cent in the third week of April amid coronavirus lockdown, a report said. The extended lockdown is only expected to further hit the labour market conditions, Mahesh Vyas, Managing Director and CEO, Centre for Monitoring Indian Economy (CMIE), said. "The employment rate has fallen from 40 per cent in February to 26 per cent now. This is steep fall of 14 percentage points. This implies that 14 per cent of the working age population has lost employment. The working age population is of the order of a billion," Mahesh Vyas also said in an article on the CMIE website. Fourteen crore people are expected to have lost employment in the lockdown period, he said. Similarly, the rate of labour participation has plunged to 35.4 per cent from 35.5 per cent. The employment rate has now dipped to 26.1 per cent as against 27 per cent in the earlier week, it added.

The labour markets are under equal stress both in rural and urban areas, he added. The rate of unemployment in rural India stands higher at 26.7 per cent as against urban 25.1 per cent. "During the last week of March and in the first two weeks of April, the unemployment rate hovered around 23-24 per cent. In the first week, it was 23.8 per cent; in the second week it dropped a bit to 23.4 per cent but in the third week it bounced back to 24 per cent. The variations were minor and collectively they confirmed that the unemployment rate had indeed risen to around 24 per cent following the lockdown," Mahesh Vyas further said.

The volatility of the unemployment rate in urban India is also surprising, he said. The unemployment rate in urban India surged to 30 and 31 per cent, respectively in the first and second weeks of the lockdown. "Then, in the following two weeks it fell rather sharply to 23 and 25 per cent. This is a rather sharp fall in the unemployment rate in urban India although it remains quite elevated," the report said.

Meanwhile, the unemployment rate stood at 8.74 per cent in March, highest since August 2016 when demonetisation happened, a recent report by CMIE said. In August 2016, the unemployment rate was 9.59 per cent. While the unemployment rate was recorded at 9.35 per cent in urban areas, it stood at 8.45 per cent in rural parts of the country, the data also showed. In February, it was recorded at 7.78 per cent.

https://m.businesstoday.in/story/in...n-14-crore-lose-employment-cmie/1/401707.html

 

[Napa]

The most AMAZING part about Modi is that this dude gets OWNED every single challenge.

There is not a single reputable source that praises his policies.

I personally LOVE that he gets humiliated every single time and his supporters have to try hard to bring bogus tangents to defend him.

I assume the majority of voters don't constitute a "reputable source" for you, and election victories are part of being "humiliated every single time".

 

[Napa]

nothing wrong with it. Many people hold same views both for India and Pakistan. India itself is an artificial entity created by the British Raj for administrative purposes otherwise there are dozens of ethnic nations within it. Anyways thats a totally different topic.

While there are many different ethnicities in India, there is also much in similar for most Indians. India is like Europe, different ethnicities but much in common. European integration is currently in doubt, but probably will be back again.

Indian integration is getting stronger. My college and school buddies are from all parts of India (different religions though largely Hindus and Sikhs) but we don't feel anything dividing us when we get together (and we have been getting together more often on Zoom in recent times).

 

[CricketCartoons]

That is not true esp in Europe or East Asia and lot of Africa too. One ethnic group is always the dominant one in terms of percentage and around who’s identity the country’s identity is built. Bangladesh, Serbia, Afghanistan, Thailand, Vietnam, China, Scandinavian countries...

Anyways my point is it’s not some blasphemy to suggest what Varun did and many people including India’s favorite Tarek Fatah believe that. You guys acted as if he had abused Ram
Or sth

Let alone Eurupe, even a small country like Italy is an artificial one created very recently. most religions are an artificial grouping of people across ethnicities and races.

As yuval harari says in sapiens, the reason humans have dominated the planet is because of them being able to create and believe in common myths, like the myths of religion and nationalism. So the artificial argument, while true, is a moot point.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I assume the majority of voters don't constitute a "reputable source" for you, and election victories are part of being "humiliated every single time".

You have assumed correctly.

And your quotes pretty much validate my post.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Well said, SIF.

I won't ever understand as to why so many apparently literate will worship this incompetent, illiterate and religious bigot. I mean, apart from religious bigotry what else does this creature offer?

He is not the major problem, however his blind bhakts are the root cause of all evils plaguing our country.

Modi is a product of his time.

Had he been born 20 years earlier or later, he would have been a nobody.

Indian people have this massive sense of inferiority complex (masquerading as superiority complex) regarding religion, culture, colonial rule and they need to get this out of their system and the best man for the job is Modi.

His ability to tap into the aspirational desires of Indians (both good, bad and ugly ones) is remarkable.

He gets votes from all sections of the society from the pure development focused ones to those "moslems need to be put down like dogs" ones.

To be fair, I would RESPECT the views of those people who voted for BJP cos they were sick and tired of Congress HAD they been forthcoming about the failures of the current govt in pretty much all aspects.

But ghanta they do it.

They would rather see India be weak economically, with a damaged social fabric, with a reputation of minority oppression and a bleak future.....AS LONG as it satisifies their misplaced sense of nationalism.

They think they are right and these libtards are the dumb ones, but it's just that their internal belief system is not willing to look at the reality yet.

And hopefully, by 2024, it would be abundantly clear that this uneducated fraud is nothing but just a jhumla expert, and they will come around.

And if 2024 doesn't do it, 2029 will.

Once that's done, we as a nation, can move forward and start asking REAL questions from our political leaders.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

@sensible, majority are fed up with secular democracy. Even if it is not Modi they would have still voted for another guy with same agenda.

Kashmir, Ayodhya, Haj sponsorship, CAA, eg. whatever he has been tapping are points which most Hindus wanted. He is just playing for gallery.

Other hand we have Rahul Gandhi as leader of opposition who will not win anything. As of now in India both groups in India need a mindset change and stop hating each other.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

I blame Congress for this mess, just stand up another candidate as PM who is not a Gandhi. They will have terrific results. Move on from RG for gods sake!

 

[CricketCartoons]

@sensible, majority are fed up with secular democracy. Even if it is not Modi they would have still voted for another guy with same agenda.

Kashmir, Ayodhya, Haj sponsorship, CAA, eg. whatever he has been tapping are points which most Hindus wanted. He is just playing for gallery.

Other hand we have Rahul Gandhi as leader of opposition who will not win anything. As of now in India both groups in India need a mindset change and stop hating each other.

True. Modi is only the symptom. Otherwise congress would not be doing temple runs and congress muslim politicians be complaining that they are not invited to congress rallies. Modi has only removed the fake secular plastic and shown what india truly was. No matter which party comes in power, india will remain a theocentric country ( as opposed to theocratic ).

 

[Napa]

You have assumed correctly.

And your quotes pretty much validate my post.

A rather elitist opinion that voters don't count for much and winning democratic elections are humiliations.

Try to frame a sensible answer or change your name.

 

[Slog]

While there are many different ethnicities in India, there is also much in similar for most Indians. India is like Europe, different ethnicities but much in common. European integration is currently in doubt, but probably will be back again.

Indian integration is getting stronger. My college and school buddies are from all parts of India (different religions though largely Hindus and Sikhs) but we don't feel anything dividing us when we get together (and we have been getting together more often on Zoom in recent times).

Yes India is exactly like Europe (albeit much more humongous in population and even size) and should have been like Europe with several countries within it with strong economic and social ties and perhaps eventually open borders among some countries.

In Europe, There Are many different ethnicities dominating regions with most them having a loose thread of religion/history tying everyone together in one continent.

For certain if subcontinent had more countries based loosely on ethnicity and not religion, the region as a whole would have been much further ahead.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

A rather elitist opinion that voters don't count for much and winning democratic elections are humiliations.

Try to frame a sensible answer or change your name.

If you can't comprehend what "reputable sources" for policies mean, there isn't much discussion to be had.

Election is won or lost on a lot of factors. Not just policies.

While we are at it, why not call Jyoti Basu as the greatest politician to have graced the Earth lol.

As for my name, buddy, you really think I care whether people think about me or my name.

Will continue posting harsh truths as I see it.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

@sensible, majority are fed up with secular democracy. Even if it is not Modi they would have still voted for another guy with same agenda.

Kashmir, Ayodhya, Haj sponsorship, CAA, eg. whatever he has been tapping are points which most Hindus wanted. He is just playing for gallery.

Other hand we have Rahul Gandhi as leader of opposition who will not win anything. As of now in India both groups in India need a mindset change and stop hating each other.

I don't disagree with your point. Actually you are bang on that this is all because Congress is useless.

With that being said:

As of now in India both groups in India need a mindset change and stop hating each other.

The days of diplomacy are long gone.

And with all due respect, this pointless monkey balancing act is of no use.

Liberals criticizing is not equivalent to right wingers spewing venom 24/7.

India is split into 2 distinct sides, each HATING each other to the core and it will remain that way for the forseeable future.

 

[Slog]

Why do you believe so?

Just because you like your country doesn’t mean you should be blind to its issues and act as if no problems exist.

I asked this yesterday:

"FDI in India has been stagnating (despite ease of business ranking improvement), rail freight traffic has declined by a third & infrastructure investment index has been low for years (pointing to the declining state of economic activity), unemployment is at record highs, GDP growth is slowing, core inflation is up, trade balance has been on negative trajectory over 5 years . And the kicker here is that most of this is all before the COVID crisis. So these numbers are only going to get worse in the short term at the very least due to COVID.

So I’m just curious to know. What is your bullishness based on?"

On a broader scale. What has been achieved in the tenure to say that this is why he is the best PM for India or even the best choice currently? Even stuff like CAA, NRC, Article 370 have been bungled in the sense that the reaction has been negative (regardless of whether it was right or wrong decision).

I like to contrast this with Trump supporters. That many has many faults too and is a bit of an idiot no doubt. But If you ask Trump supporters the same question; then pre-corona they could point to the economy, historic low unemployment rate, better trade deals, manufacturing jobs moving back. What could Modi supporters say in same vein?

Interestingly no one has replied.

I’m genuinely curious to be honest. Is there a spin or interpretation I’m missing which negates this?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

@sensible, majority are fed up with secular democracy. Even if it is not Modi they would have still voted for another guy with same agenda.

Kashmir, Ayodhya, Haj sponsorship, CAA, eg. whatever he has been tapping are points which most Hindus wanted. He is just playing for gallery.

Other hand we have Rahul Gandhi as leader of opposition who will not win anything. As of now in India both groups in India need a mindset change and stop hating each other.

Kashmir - Hardly sorted. God knows what's in store for us.

CAA - Another mega mess.

Ayodhya - Only issue that was truly sorted.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Interestingly no one has replied.

I’m genuinely curious to be honest. Is there a spin or interpretation I’m missing which negates this?

Cos there is NOTHING to reply.

That's the issue.

These guys act all holier than thou and talk a big game about caring for India, but when it's time for the show, there is no substance.

So might as well drop the facade as say it as it is:

I LOVE BJP cos they put Muslims and liberals in their place, and as long as they are great at that, I don't care what happens to India.

 

[Slog]

Kashmir - Hardly sorted. God knows what's in store for us.

CAA - Another mega mess.

Ayodhya - Only issue that was truly sorted.

But even for Ayodhya - isn’t the official story line that it was sorted through courts and had nothing to do with politics. How can they claim that a court decision was a victory due to a political party because that means the judiciary members are being influenced and democracy being undermined.

So atleast at an official capacity, for their own good and PR, BJP supporters should not point this as a victory of the Modi government.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

But even for Ayodhya - isn’t the official story line that it was sorted through courts and had nothing to do with politics. How can they claim that a court decision was a victory due to a political party because that means the judiciary members are being influenced and democracy being undermined.

So atleast at an official capacity, for their own good and PR, BJP supporters should not point this as a victory of the Modi government.

Smart thing would be to claim credit for it.

It's Ayodhya.

All that matters is it happened under their watch.

People would likely assume BJP fast tracked the whole thing and helped make it a reality.

If I were the opposition, I would let them claim all the credit and focus on other issues.

 

[Slog]

Smart thing would be to claim credit for it.

It's Ayodhya.

All that matters is it happened under their watch.

People would likely assume BJP fast tracked the whole thing and helped make it a reality.

If I were the opposition, I would let them claim all the credit and focus on other issues.

Can a government in India constitutionally influence a court to fast track a case? I mean I get they had a role to play behind the scenes but is that constitutionally possible? I would think that goes against the whole independent judiciary concept

 

[CricketCartoons]

Can a government in India constitutionally influence a court to fast track a case? I mean I get they had a role to play behind the scenes but is that constitutionally possible? I would think that goes against the whole independent judiciary concept

The govt has the power to create fast track courts, but has no power to force supreme court to fast track a case. Ayodhya wasn't fast tracked. The supreme court delayed it as much as they could.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Can a government in India constitutionally influence a court to fast track a case? I mean I get they had a role to play behind the scenes but is that constitutionally possible? I would think that goes against the whole independent judiciary concept

No they can't as far as I know.

But its not about facts but perception.

Modi wins cos he wins the perception game.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Even if Ayodhya verdict had gone against their favour, BJP would have benefitted from it.

So it's a win win either way.

 

[CricketCartoons]

But even for Ayodhya - isn’t the official story line that it was sorted through courts and had nothing to do with politics. How can they claim that a court decision was a victory due to a political party because that means the judiciary members are being influenced and democracy being undermined.

So atleast at an official capacity, for their own good and PR, BJP supporters should not point this as a victory of the Modi government.

A side note. The draconian AFSPA in kashmir was implemented during the rule of the most leftist PM of India.

 

[Napa]

If you can't comprehend what "reputable sources" for policies mean, there isn't much discussion to be had.

Election is won or lost on a lot of factors. Not just policies.

While we are at it, why not call Jyoti Basu as the greatest politician to have graced the Earth lol.

As for my name, buddy, you really think I care whether people think about me or my name.

Will continue posting harsh truths as I see it.

The idea that you get to decide what is "reputable" and that the mass of voters are not a "reputable source" is a very elitist opinion.

You are entitled to your opinion and may choose to ignore the voters and be irrelevant.

India's Ease of Doing Business has jumped from 112 to 62 according to WB during Modi's tenure. The most important requirement for the Indian economy is to free it from government regulations that have held it back for decades while countries like Japan, Korea and China have sped ahead. Modi is addressing the most important shortcoming of the Indian economy.

If according to you "Modi is that this dude gets OWNED every single challenge. There is not a single reputable source that praises his policies" then your reading list is quite partisan.

No more replies unless I see something intelligent.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The idea that you get to decide what is "reputable" and that the mass of voters are not a "reputable source" is a very elitist opinion.

You are entitled to your opinion and may choose to ignore the voters and be irrelevant.

India's Ease of Doing Business has jumped from 112 to 62 according to WB during Modi's tenure. The most important requirement for the Indian economy is to free it from government regulations that have held it back for decades while countries like Japan, Korea and China have sped ahead. Modi is addressing the most important shortcoming of the Indian economy.

If according to you "Modi is that this dude gets OWNED every single challenge. There is not a single reputable source that praises his policies" then your reading list is quite partisan.

No more replies unless I see something intelligent.

Did you just quote Ease Of Doing Business here?

Chalo then.

Read this.

How Modi and Jaitley Gamed The World Bank's Doing Business Rankings

https://www.huffingtonpost.in/entry...business-rankings_in_5c0feb75e4b051c73eac3e67

#47

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?291918-Would-you-vote-for-BJP-in-2024

The documents reveal how the Modi government first sought to lobby the World Bank into changing its methodology to reflect a better rank for India. When that didn't achieve any significant success, the government prioritised minor institutional and procedural tweaks to game the ranking system, rather than embark on a bold agenda of economic reform as promised.

----

So yeah he did get OWNED even there.

Another jhumla.

Again validates my point.

He does all this so that well meaning citizens like you get fooled into thinking he is doing great.

By the way, I know people who run factories here in TN and I asked them about ease of doing business and they just laughed.

No more replies unless I see something intelligent.

lmao....bhai you quoted me first.

Not the other way around.

The guy whom you love so much is an out and out fraud.

And a dumb one at that.

 

[Napa]

Why do you believe so?

Just because you like your country doesn’t mean you should be blind to its issues and act as if no problems exist.

I asked this yesterday:

"FDI in India has been stagnating (despite ease of business ranking improvement), rail freight traffic has declined by a third & infrastructure investment index has been low for years (pointing to the declining state of economic activity), unemployment is at record highs, GDP growth is slowing, core inflation is up, trade balance has been on negative trajectory over 5 years . And the kicker here is that most of this is all before the COVID crisis. So these numbers are only going to get worse in the short term at the very least due to COVID.

So I’m just curious to know. What is your bullishness based on?"

On a broader scale. What has been achieved in the tenure to say that this is why he is the best PM for India or even the best choice currently? Even stuff like CAA, NRC, Article 370 have been bungled in the sense that the reaction has been negative (regardless of whether it was right or wrong decision).

I like to contrast this with Trump supporters. That many has many faults too and is a bit of an idiot no doubt. But If you ask Trump supporters the same question; then pre-corona they could point to the economy, historic low unemployment rate, better trade deals, manufacturing jobs moving back. What could Modi supporters say in same vein?

The fastest way for a country to improve its economy for the last 70 years has been to attract Western manufacturing. India is very late in this game, but Modi is making some of the right moves.

To attract Western FDI requires many different things:

1) Cooperation from the state governments. Investors fear that some anti-Modi lunatic like Mamata will shut down their automobile manufacturing plant after a major investment has been made.

2) Reform of labor laws which allow firms to close down loss making units. These have to be passed through the Rajya Sabha in addition to the Lok Sabha.

3) Reduction of red tape for setting up factories etc.

India is a democracy and there is no guarantee that the next state government won't be led by a lunatic like Mamata. An investor considering an investment may prefer Vietnam where there is a dictatorship which assures the investor protection.

The central government has a limited amount of power given the multiple issues mentioned above, and the best it can do is to reduce the central government red tape. The fact that the BJP government is doing so is reflected in the rapid improvement in EODB.

The BJP government has been trying to use access to the large Indian market as an incentive for setting up manufacturing in India, let's see what happens.

Employment growth everywhere in the world is difficult with the growth of automation. Private sector due to automation does not generate much employment. Public sector is a discredited idea due to rampant corruption and inefficiencies.

There are no successes when it comes to providing decent jobs. Europe just gives money to give the unemployed a tolerable life. The US has produced a lot of jobs pre-pandemic, but a large number of them have been poorly paying jobs without much prospects for improvement.

The free market is evolving towards greater and greater inequality in which the mass of people end up in dead end jobs. India with its huge population has no easy answers.

 

[Napa]

Why do you believe so?

Just because you like your country doesn’t mean you should be blind to its issues and act as if no problems exist.

I asked this yesterday:

"FDI in India has been stagnating (despite ease of business ranking improvement), rail freight traffic has declined by a third & infrastructure investment index has been low for years (pointing to the declining state of economic activity), unemployment is at record highs, GDP growth is slowing, core inflation is up, trade balance has been on negative trajectory over 5 years . And the kicker here is that most of this is all before the COVID crisis. So these numbers are only going to get worse in the short term at the very least due to COVID.

So I’m just curious to know. What is your bullishness based on?"

On a broader scale. What has been achieved in the tenure to say that this is why he is the best PM for India or even the best choice currently? Even stuff like CAA, NRC, Article 370 have been bungled in the sense that the reaction has been negative (regardless of whether it was right or wrong decision).

I like to contrast this with Trump supporters. That many has many faults too and is a bit of an idiot no doubt. But If you ask Trump supporters the same question; then pre-corona they could point to the economy, historic low unemployment rate, better trade deals, manufacturing jobs moving back. What could Modi supporters say in same vein?

Also, from 2014 to 2018 growth averaged 7%+ which was reasonably good. In 2019 there was a downturn, and this was part of a worldwide business cycle. 2020 is down for the obvious reason.

The question is whether Congress would have done better? Towards the end of their last tenure the multiple scams froze decision making with the central government too afraid to approve any new project due to the fear of yet another scam.

Congress or BJP, India benefits from a stable government that reduces regulations. The danger of a coalition government led by lunatics like Mayawati and Mamata is that they will try to steal at hyper pace as they know they won't be in power for long.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I blame Congress for this mess, just stand up another candidate as PM who is not a Gandhi. They will have terrific results. Move on from RG for gods sake!

No its too late for that. Everyone knows even if that brain dead Rahul Gandhi is not the PM Candidate, the PM candidate will have his stings pulled by the Italians. Its too late, Nationalism is at its strongest in India, this is truly the end and RIP for congress, unless of course Italian Sonya, her brain dead son, her confused daughter and Robert Vadra are dead and lying 6 feet beneath the earth.

Finally India has been cured of the Nehru virus...

 

[Rajdeep]

This thread is a live example what is wrong with Indian liberals and why they have been rejected thoroughly. All I did was share a poll where Modi's approval rating is highest among all global leaders and they lost their mind. Now they are writing essays after essays hoping for a retribution in 2024 or atleast in 2029. There is a famous Anil Kapoor meme 'Bolne De takleef hua bechare ko' comes to mind in this situation. Hilarious predicament.

This is a democracy. What will happen in 2024 or in 2029 people of India will decide. I remember even before 2019 the same thing was said. I mean lets be honest - How much you tried, How very much you tried, How desperately you tried that Rahul will save you or a Priyanka will save you. Forget about being PM, people didnt even elected him in his own constituency and he ran away to Kerala.

Anyway past is past. I would like to wish my liberal brothers all the best for 2024, 2029 or even 2034. Come fully prepared and will see what happens. Why so much rush yaar? Its a democracy afterall.

But one request, try to accept the mandate of people either for or against you. Dont be like Ashok Swain who after 2019 results famously said "People of India are biggest enemy of this country".