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Modi has dodged every failure till date but will Covid-19 mismanagement be final nail in the coffin?

New Delhi, India – On April 29, Amit Jaiswal, a member of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), passed away in Mathura, a small town in Uttar Pradesh state, just three hours from the national capital.

The 42-year old died of COVID-19 ten days after testing positive. His grieving family said that despite repeated SOS tweets to Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who followed Jaiswal on Twitter, no assistance came.

The RSS, a far-right Hindu supremacist organisation founded in 1925, is the ideological fountainhead of Modi’s governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and counts the prime minister among millions of its members across India.

Jaiswal’s heartbroken family tore off Modi’s posters that he had pasted on his car, claiming they would “never forgive Modi for his indifference”.

“We are in a state of deep depression and can’t talk to anybody, nobody can help us,” his inconsolable sister Sonu Alagh told Al Jazeera two weeks later.

For many supporters who believed in Modi, his response to the pandemic has led to disillusionment.

Grief-stricken and angry at the avoidable deaths of their loved ones due to the coronavirus, thousands of Indians have heaped scornful criticism on Modi and his BJP, with the bitterness transcending barriers of religion, class, caste and politics.

Over the last two months, social media platforms including Facebook and Twitter have seen anti-Modi hashtags such as #ResignModi, #ModiFailsIndia and #ModiAgainstNation go viral.

But BJP politician Sudhanshu Mittal claims the government “did whatever we could” to fight the pandemic.

“When you tread an uncharted path there are no benchmarks to follow and nobody knew that this would be the catastrophic extent of the second wave,” he told Al Jazeera, adding that health is a “state subject” and that “some states are playing politics”.

“This is not the time for politics or blame-game. That can happen later,” Mittal said.

‘Won’t vote for Modi again’

Chetan Kaushal, a restaurateur who was forced to shut down his business due to the coronavirus lockdown last year, says he is one of those who voted for Modi despite demonetisation and “other faults” in his first term (2014-19) as prime minister.

Demonetisation refers to Modi’s controversial overnight banning of banknotes of higher denomination and issuing fresh notes in 2016, leading to huge chaos as people crowded ATMs and banks to withdraw their money.

“I believed he deserved a second chance but I don’t think I will vote for him ever again,” Kaushal told Al Jazeera.

The spectre of sudden and needless deaths seems to have triggered an unprecedented criticism even among Modi’s supporters.

Achyut Trivedi, a New Delhi-based marketing professional and active member of the BJP for the last 12 years, said “people like me are determined that we will not make the mistake of voting for Modi for the third time”.

“At least I won’t do it after what my family has gone through,” he told Al Jazeera.

Modi, who has faced international criticism over a crumbling economy and a perceptible decline in civil and political liberties, faces his biggest threat domestically as a vicious second COVID-19 wave rages across India.

Backed by his seemingly unwavering popularity at home, Modi in January this year told global leaders at the World Economic Forum that India “has saved humanity from a big disaster by containing Corona effectively”.

That premature claim was soon followed by India, the world’s largest vaccine maker, donating and exporting more than 66 million doses of the coronavirus vaccine to dozens of countries, a “vaccine diplomacy” now being widely criticised amid a severe shortage of the jab at home.

On March 7, Health Minister Dr Harsh Vardhan said India was “in the endgame of the pandemic”.

‘Picnic at a public hanging’

In February and March, despite the World Health Organization (WHO) warning of a new COVID-19 strain discovered in India as a “variant of concern”, Modi turned his attention towards regional elections in five states, including the eastern state of West Bengal where he and his BJP hoped to dislodge India’s only serving woman chief minister, Mamata Banerjee.


Throwing all caution to the wind, Modi addressed dozens of election rallies attended by tens of thousands of BJP supporters jostling among themselves amid a pandemic.

“Today, in all directions I only see huge crowds of people… I have witnessed such a rally for the first time,” Modi said at a rally in West Bengal’s Asansol city on April 17, even as the country reported more than 200,000 daily cases that day.

The BJP’s Mittal claims there is “no empirical evidence” to link the explosion in COVID-19 cases or deaths to poll campaigns.

“We can also say that the farmer agitation was responsible for cases as that too was a big agitation. I don’t think we can conclude that people are angry, that is a subjective matter depending on your perspective,” he told Al Jazeera.

Meanwhile, Modi’s maskless photograph appeared on the front pages of leading newspapers in April, inviting Hindu devotees to congregate for a weeks-long religious festival on the banks of the Ganges River in northern Uttarakhand state’s Haridwar town.

The Kumbh Mela, or pitcher festival, as the pilgrimage was called, saw nearly nine million visitors taking a holy dip in the river in less than three weeks, turning the event into a “super-spreader” of the virus and resulting in dozens of deaths across India.

“Despite warnings about the risks of super-spreader events, the government allowed religious festivals to go ahead, drawing millions of people from around the country, along with huge political rallies – conspicuous for their lack of COVID-19 mitigation measures,” medical journal Lancet wrote in a scathing indictment.

Amid the raging pandemic, critics have also lambasted Modi for going ahead with a $2.8bn “Central Vista” project to build a new parliament, prime minister’s residence and other federal buildings.

Senior journalist Nalini Singh told Al Jazeera the ongoing construction “is akin to having a picnic at a public hanging”.

‘What will crying achieve?’
Concerned at a growing public backlash against his government’s handling of the pandemic and “misplaced priorities”, Modi and his RSS colleagues took part in a meeting on May 23 to plan the strategy for next year’s state elections in Uttar Pradesh.

It was in this BJP-ruled northern state, also India’s most populous, that chilling images of bodies floating in the Ganges river and mass graves found along its banks made headlines around the world.

Headed by controversial saffron-clad Hindu monk Yogi Adityanath as the state’s chief minister, the BJP suffered serious reverses in local body elections held in April and May, despite the pandemic threatening the lives of the government workers deployed to hold the polls.

Last week, the Uttar Pradesh Primary Teachers Association said nearly 1,600 teachers died of COVID-19 after they were forced to work as polling officers.

“If the government had accepted our request to be vaccinated like other government employees who are battling COVID-19, so many of us wouldn’t have died,” Dinesh Chand Sharma, president of the teachers’ association, told Al Jazeera.

On Monday, police in Delhi “visited” Twitter offices to uncover details of why the social media giant had labelled a BJP spokesman’s tweets as “manipulated media”.

In his tweet, Sambit Patra had shared a purported “*******” prepared by the opposition Congress Party, which the BJP claimed was used to malign Modi.

On Thursday, Twitter said it was worried about the safety of its staff in India following the Delhi Police action.

Modi’s detractors accuse the Hindu nationalist leader of “manipulating narratives” through a “pliant and subservient media”, of targeting its opponents by using government agencies, and of remaining focused only on winning elections, often at the cost of governance.


Anand Singh, an affluent garment trader in Uttar Pradesh’s Varanasi, also Modi’s parliamentary constituency, says holding political rallies during a pandemic and the decision to go ahead with local body elections in the state was like “rubbing salt in our wounds”.

“I had never expected that we would have to go through such pain despite having wealth and social capital,” Singh told Al Jazeera.

Varanasi mirrored the experience in many parts of the country which saw a huge spike in COVID-related deaths, frantic appeals for oxygen cylinders, and disturbing images of bodies being cremated even in parking lots of crematoriums and lying in queues for final rites.

“I had my reservations about the BJP and Modi but I reasoned with myself and trusted his promise of development. Twice they were given an overwhelming mandate that could have been used to bring progress but there have been so many announcements and no execution,” a New Delhi-based entrepreneur who requested anonymity told Al Jazeera.

“It seems he is a man who wants power for power’s sake.”

In a recent online interaction with healthcare workers in Varanasi, Modi got emotional as he spoke. But reactions to the videos on social media sites of him choking saw more “dislikes”, with many calling him out for his “crocodile tears”.

“He cries despite being the prime minister. We have lost lives and business in this pandemic. We expected better from him,” said Singh.

“What will crying achieve?”

Al Jazeera
 
New Delhi, India – On April 29, Amit Jaiswal, a member of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), passed away in Mathura, a small town in Uttar Pradesh state, just three hours from the national capital.

The 42-year old died of COVID-19 ten days after testing positive. His grieving family said that despite repeated SOS tweets to Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who followed Jaiswal on Twitter, no assistance came.

The RSS, a far-right Hindu supremacist organisation founded in 1925, is the ideological fountainhead of Modi’s governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and counts the prime minister among millions of its members across India.

Jaiswal’s heartbroken family tore off Modi’s posters that he had pasted on his car, claiming they would “never forgive Modi for his indifference”.

“We are in a state of deep depression and can’t talk to anybody, nobody can help us,” his inconsolable sister Sonu Alagh told Al Jazeera two weeks later.

For many supporters who believed in Modi, his response to the pandemic has led to disillusionment.

Grief-stricken and angry at the avoidable deaths of their loved ones due to the coronavirus, thousands of Indians have heaped scornful criticism on Modi and his BJP, with the bitterness transcending barriers of religion, class, caste and politics.

Over the last two months, social media platforms including Facebook and Twitter have seen anti-Modi hashtags such as #ResignModi, #ModiFailsIndia and #ModiAgainstNation go viral.

But BJP politician Sudhanshu Mittal claims the government “did whatever we could” to fight the pandemic.

“When you tread an uncharted path there are no benchmarks to follow and nobody knew that this would be the catastrophic extent of the second wave,” he told Al Jazeera, adding that health is a “state subject” and that “some states are playing politics”.

“This is not the time for politics or blame-game. That can happen later,” Mittal said.

‘Won’t vote for Modi again’

Chetan Kaushal, a restaurateur who was forced to shut down his business due to the coronavirus lockdown last year, says he is one of those who voted for Modi despite demonetisation and “other faults” in his first term (2014-19) as prime minister.

Demonetisation refers to Modi’s controversial overnight banning of banknotes of higher denomination and issuing fresh notes in 2016, leading to huge chaos as people crowded ATMs and banks to withdraw their money.

“I believed he deserved a second chance but I don’t think I will vote for him ever again,” Kaushal told Al Jazeera.

The spectre of sudden and needless deaths seems to have triggered an unprecedented criticism even among Modi’s supporters.

Achyut Trivedi, a New Delhi-based marketing professional and active member of the BJP for the last 12 years, said “people like me are determined that we will not make the mistake of voting for Modi for the third time”.

“At least I won’t do it after what my family has gone through,” he told Al Jazeera.

Modi, who has faced international criticism over a crumbling economy and a perceptible decline in civil and political liberties, faces his biggest threat domestically as a vicious second COVID-19 wave rages across India.

Backed by his seemingly unwavering popularity at home, Modi in January this year told global leaders at the World Economic Forum that India “has saved humanity from a big disaster by containing Corona effectively”.

That premature claim was soon followed by India, the world’s largest vaccine maker, donating and exporting more than 66 million doses of the coronavirus vaccine to dozens of countries, a “vaccine diplomacy” now being widely criticised amid a severe shortage of the jab at home.

On March 7, Health Minister Dr Harsh Vardhan said India was “in the endgame of the pandemic”.

‘Picnic at a public hanging’

In February and March, despite the World Health Organization (WHO) warning of a new COVID-19 strain discovered in India as a “variant of concern”, Modi turned his attention towards regional elections in five states, including the eastern state of West Bengal where he and his BJP hoped to dislodge India’s only serving woman chief minister, Mamata Banerjee.


Throwing all caution to the wind, Modi addressed dozens of election rallies attended by tens of thousands of BJP supporters jostling among themselves amid a pandemic.

“Today, in all directions I only see huge crowds of people… I have witnessed such a rally for the first time,” Modi said at a rally in West Bengal’s Asansol city on April 17, even as the country reported more than 200,000 daily cases that day.

The BJP’s Mittal claims there is “no empirical evidence” to link the explosion in COVID-19 cases or deaths to poll campaigns.

“We can also say that the farmer agitation was responsible for cases as that too was a big agitation. I don’t think we can conclude that people are angry, that is a subjective matter depending on your perspective,” he told Al Jazeera.

Meanwhile, Modi’s maskless photograph appeared on the front pages of leading newspapers in April, inviting Hindu devotees to congregate for a weeks-long religious festival on the banks of the Ganges River in northern Uttarakhand state’s Haridwar town.

The Kumbh Mela, or pitcher festival, as the pilgrimage was called, saw nearly nine million visitors taking a holy dip in the river in less than three weeks, turning the event into a “super-spreader” of the virus and resulting in dozens of deaths across India.

“Despite warnings about the risks of super-spreader events, the government allowed religious festivals to go ahead, drawing millions of people from around the country, along with huge political rallies – conspicuous for their lack of COVID-19 mitigation measures,” medical journal Lancet wrote in a scathing indictment.

Amid the raging pandemic, critics have also lambasted Modi for going ahead with a $2.8bn “Central Vista” project to build a new parliament, prime minister’s residence and other federal buildings.

Senior journalist Nalini Singh told Al Jazeera the ongoing construction “is akin to having a picnic at a public hanging”.

‘What will crying achieve?’
Concerned at a growing public backlash against his government’s handling of the pandemic and “misplaced priorities”, Modi and his RSS colleagues took part in a meeting on May 23 to plan the strategy for next year’s state elections in Uttar Pradesh.

It was in this BJP-ruled northern state, also India’s most populous, that chilling images of bodies floating in the Ganges river and mass graves found along its banks made headlines around the world.

Headed by controversial saffron-clad Hindu monk Yogi Adityanath as the state’s chief minister, the BJP suffered serious reverses in local body elections held in April and May, despite the pandemic threatening the lives of the government workers deployed to hold the polls.

Last week, the Uttar Pradesh Primary Teachers Association said nearly 1,600 teachers died of COVID-19 after they were forced to work as polling officers.

“If the government had accepted our request to be vaccinated like other government employees who are battling COVID-19, so many of us wouldn’t have died,” Dinesh Chand Sharma, president of the teachers’ association, told Al Jazeera.

On Monday, police in Delhi “visited” Twitter offices to uncover details of why the social media giant had labelled a BJP spokesman’s tweets as “manipulated media”.

In his tweet, Sambit Patra had shared a purported “toolkit” prepared by the opposition Congress Party, which the BJP claimed was used to malign Modi.

On Thursday, Twitter said it was worried about the safety of its staff in India following the Delhi Police action.

Modi’s detractors accuse the Hindu nationalist leader of “manipulating narratives” through a “pliant and subservient media”, of targeting its opponents by using government agencies, and of remaining focused only on winning elections, often at the cost of governance.


Anand Singh, an affluent garment trader in Uttar Pradesh’s Varanasi, also Modi’s parliamentary constituency, says holding political rallies during a pandemic and the decision to go ahead with local body elections in the state was like “rubbing salt in our wounds”.

“I had never expected that we would have to go through such pain despite having wealth and social capital,” Singh told Al Jazeera.

Varanasi mirrored the experience in many parts of the country which saw a huge spike in COVID-related deaths, frantic appeals for oxygen cylinders, and disturbing images of bodies being cremated even in parking lots of crematoriums and lying in queues for final rites.

“I had my reservations about the BJP and Modi but I reasoned with myself and trusted his promise of development. Twice they were given an overwhelming mandate that could have been used to bring progress but there have been so many announcements and no execution,” a New Delhi-based entrepreneur who requested anonymity told Al Jazeera.

“It seems he is a man who wants power for power’s sake.”

In a recent online interaction with healthcare workers in Varanasi, Modi got emotional as he spoke. But reactions to the videos on social media sites of him choking saw more “dislikes”, with many calling him out for his “crocodile tears”.

“He cries despite being the prime minister. We have lost lives and business in this pandemic. We expected better from him,” said Singh.

“What will crying achieve?”

Al Jazeera
 
Well described by Rahul.

"Unfortunately, the Prime Minister is an event manager. He cannot deal with more than one event at a time. Anything happens, he will organise an event and deal only with that. We cannot do with an event manager in such times. We need effective and speedy administration,"
 
New Delhi, India – On April 29, Amit Jaiswal, a member of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), passed away in Mathura, a small town in Uttar Pradesh state, just three hours from the national capital.

The 42-year old died of COVID-19 ten days after testing positive. His grieving family said that despite repeated SOS tweets to Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who followed Jaiswal on Twitter, no assistance came.

The RSS, a far-right Hindu supremacist organisation founded in 1925, is the ideological fountainhead of Modi’s governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and counts the prime minister among millions of its members across India.

Jaiswal’s heartbroken family tore off Modi’s posters that he had pasted on his car, claiming they would “never forgive Modi for his indifference”.

“We are in a state of deep depression and can’t talk to anybody, nobody can help us,” his inconsolable sister Sonu Alagh told Al Jazeera two weeks later.

For many supporters who believed in Modi, his response to the pandemic has led to disillusionment.

Grief-stricken and angry at the avoidable deaths of their loved ones due to the coronavirus, thousands of Indians have heaped scornful criticism on Modi and his BJP, with the bitterness transcending barriers of religion, class, caste and politics.

Over the last two months, social media platforms including Facebook and Twitter have seen anti-Modi hashtags such as #ResignModi, #ModiFailsIndia and #ModiAgainstNation go viral.

But BJP politician Sudhanshu Mittal claims the government “did whatever we could” to fight the pandemic.

“When you tread an uncharted path there are no benchmarks to follow and nobody knew that this would be the catastrophic extent of the second wave,” he told Al Jazeera, adding that health is a “state subject” and that “some states are playing politics”.

“This is not the time for politics or blame-game. That can happen later,” Mittal said.

‘Won’t vote for Modi again’

Chetan Kaushal, a restaurateur who was forced to shut down his business due to the coronavirus lockdown last year, says he is one of those who voted for Modi despite demonetisation and “other faults” in his first term (2014-19) as prime minister.

Demonetisation refers to Modi’s controversial overnight banning of banknotes of higher denomination and issuing fresh notes in 2016, leading to huge chaos as people crowded ATMs and banks to withdraw their money.

“I believed he deserved a second chance but I don’t think I will vote for him ever again,” Kaushal told Al Jazeera.

The spectre of sudden and needless deaths seems to have triggered an unprecedented criticism even among Modi’s supporters.

Achyut Trivedi, a New Delhi-based marketing professional and active member of the BJP for the last 12 years, said “people like me are determined that we will not make the mistake of voting for Modi for the third time”.

“At least I won’t do it after what my family has gone through,” he told Al Jazeera.

Modi, who has faced international criticism over a crumbling economy and a perceptible decline in civil and political liberties, faces his biggest threat domestically as a vicious second COVID-19 wave rages across India.

Backed by his seemingly unwavering popularity at home, Modi in January this year told global leaders at the World Economic Forum that India “has saved humanity from a big disaster by containing Corona effectively”.

That premature claim was soon followed by India, the world’s largest vaccine maker, donating and exporting more than 66 million doses of the coronavirus vaccine to dozens of countries, a “vaccine diplomacy” now being widely criticised amid a severe shortage of the jab at home.

On March 7, Health Minister Dr Harsh Vardhan said India was “in the endgame of the pandemic”.

‘Picnic at a public hanging’

In February and March, despite the World Health Organization (WHO) warning of a new COVID-19 strain discovered in India as a “variant of concern”, Modi turned his attention towards regional elections in five states, including the eastern state of West Bengal where he and his BJP hoped to dislodge India’s only serving woman chief minister, Mamata Banerjee.


Throwing all caution to the wind, Modi addressed dozens of election rallies attended by tens of thousands of BJP supporters jostling among themselves amid a pandemic.

“Today, in all directions I only see huge crowds of people… I have witnessed such a rally for the first time,” Modi said at a rally in West Bengal’s Asansol city on April 17, even as the country reported more than 200,000 daily cases that day.

The BJP’s Mittal claims there is “no empirical evidence” to link the explosion in COVID-19 cases or deaths to poll campaigns.

“We can also say that the farmer agitation was responsible for cases as that too was a big agitation. I don’t think we can conclude that people are angry, that is a subjective matter depending on your perspective,” he told Al Jazeera.

Meanwhile, Modi’s maskless photograph appeared on the front pages of leading newspapers in April, inviting Hindu devotees to congregate for a weeks-long religious festival on the banks of the Ganges River in northern Uttarakhand state’s Haridwar town.

The Kumbh Mela, or pitcher festival, as the pilgrimage was called, saw nearly nine million visitors taking a holy dip in the river in less than three weeks, turning the event into a “super-spreader” of the virus and resulting in dozens of deaths across India.

“Despite warnings about the risks of super-spreader events, the government allowed religious festivals to go ahead, drawing millions of people from around the country, along with huge political rallies – conspicuous for their lack of COVID-19 mitigation measures,” medical journal Lancet wrote in a scathing indictment.

Amid the raging pandemic, critics have also lambasted Modi for going ahead with a $2.8bn “Central Vista” project to build a new parliament, prime minister’s residence and other federal buildings.

Senior journalist Nalini Singh told Al Jazeera the ongoing construction “is akin to having a picnic at a public hanging”.

‘What will crying achieve?’
Concerned at a growing public backlash against his government’s handling of the pandemic and “misplaced priorities”, Modi and his RSS colleagues took part in a meeting on May 23 to plan the strategy for next year’s state elections in Uttar Pradesh.

It was in this BJP-ruled northern state, also India’s most populous, that chilling images of bodies floating in the Ganges river and mass graves found along its banks made headlines around the world.

Headed by controversial saffron-clad Hindu monk Yogi Adityanath as the state’s chief minister, the BJP suffered serious reverses in local body elections held in April and May, despite the pandemic threatening the lives of the government workers deployed to hold the polls.

Last week, the Uttar Pradesh Primary Teachers Association said nearly 1,600 teachers died of COVID-19 after they were forced to work as polling officers.

“If the government had accepted our request to be vaccinated like other government employees who are battling COVID-19, so many of us wouldn’t have died,” Dinesh Chand Sharma, president of the teachers’ association, told Al Jazeera.

On Monday, police in Delhi “visited” Twitter offices to uncover details of why the social media giant had labelled a BJP spokesman’s tweets as “manipulated media”.

In his tweet, Sambit Patra had shared a purported “*******” prepared by the opposition Congress Party, which the BJP claimed was used to malign Modi.

On Thursday, Twitter said it was worried about the safety of its staff in India following the Delhi Police action.

Modi’s detractors accuse the Hindu nationalist leader of “manipulating narratives” through a “pliant and subservient media”, of targeting its opponents by using government agencies, and of remaining focused only on winning elections, often at the cost of governance.


Anand Singh, an affluent garment trader in Uttar Pradesh’s Varanasi, also Modi’s parliamentary constituency, says holding political rallies during a pandemic and the decision to go ahead with local body elections in the state was like “rubbing salt in our wounds”.

“I had never expected that we would have to go through such pain despite having wealth and social capital,” Singh told Al Jazeera.

Varanasi mirrored the experience in many parts of the country which saw a huge spike in COVID-related deaths, frantic appeals for oxygen cylinders, and disturbing images of bodies being cremated even in parking lots of crematoriums and lying in queues for final rites.

“I had my reservations about the BJP and Modi but I reasoned with myself and trusted his promise of development. Twice they were given an overwhelming mandate that could have been used to bring progress but there have been so many announcements and no execution,” a New Delhi-based entrepreneur who requested anonymity told Al Jazeera.

“It seems he is a man who wants power for power’s sake.”

In a recent online interaction with healthcare workers in Varanasi, Modi got emotional as he spoke. But reactions to the videos on social media sites of him choking saw more “dislikes”, with many calling him out for his “crocodile tears”.

“He cries despite being the prime minister. We have lost lives and business in this pandemic. We expected better from him,” said Singh.

“What will crying achieve?”

Al Jazeera
Good to see this. Hope more Indians will be able to separate facts from drama.
 
Do not listen to the other guy, he isn't giving you any good advice and is intolerant himself just like right wingers.

Your vote is your own, if your conscience doesn't allow you to cast vote to any corrupt candidate then don't.

Exactly we need to get rid of two party system.
 
Well said SIF! That was one comprehensive post!

Dhoni's example is quite apt. However even at his absolute worst, Dhoni was miles ahead of bigot in whatever he did!

As for not losing hope, well I agree with you. These despots won't stay forever in power. However when I see people in my neighborhood & WA groups I'm part of, raising bogey of Muslims' population rising, I get most disappointed! I mean if even in these catastrophic times, people are fighting over Hindu Muslim, when will they ever learn!

Instead of asking tough & stinging questions from their master about why did he jettison them at this crucial juncture, they just simply get swept away by these anti national fascists and instead bark at wrong tree!

I get you bhai.....

It can be quite demotivating.

But just know that it's an echo chamber and unfortunately, you are in a right wing echo chamber in your locality as opposed to a left wing one.

These people will keep barking which is what will make our victory even more sweeter when Modi and BJP is defeated one day. :D

The best way to deal with them is through FLOOD them with proof (and a healthy dose of polite humiliation :)) ) and let time do its thing (some will convert eventually).

If we keep saying that Modi is a fascist, bigot, etc......it will not make a mark even if its true cos labels often make people tune out the message.

Lets keep asking tough and stingiing questions and do our part.

These bunch of jokers can't rule over us forever and man o man...when they fall from grace, they are in for one hell of a ride.
 
How likely is Modi expected to lose a majority and be replaced ? how is the opposition aligned politically ?
 
How likely is Modi expected to lose a majority and be replaced ? how is the opposition aligned politically ?

Unlikely as of now due to the sole reason the opposition party is sleeping.

Any credible alternative and these guys will be done.

Still time is there.

One can only hope lol.
 
Unlikely as of now due to the sole reason the opposition party is sleeping.

Any credible alternative and these guys will be done.

Still time is there.

One can only hope lol.

Seems to be the same issue around the world, despite how bad leaders aligned a bit more to the right do, the opposition is unable to step up. But maybe its tougher in India as Modi is very popular although perhaps not during the Covid period
 
Seems to be the same issue around the world, despite how bad leaders aligned a bit more to the right do, the opposition is unable to step up.

This is the one and only problem:
 

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Still remember how many predictions were made if demonetization, rafael etc will be the last nail in his coffin.

Still remember how many dramas were staged by opposition like award wapasi, intolerance, ghar wapasi etc.

The result was people voted him in power with even bigger mandate in 2019. Even so called Mahagatbandhan couldnt stop him.

But the opposition learned no lesson at all. Even during his 2nd term, they continued with the dramas like Delhi riots, Khalistani protests etc.expecting people to have a change of heart. The result is he still has the highest approval rating among all global leaders. As I said many times, the more you try to down the man...more will people vote for him.

Now lets see if Covid 19 become the final nail in his coffin :)
 
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I get you bhai.....

It can be quite demotivating.

But just know that it's an echo chamber and unfortunately, you are in a right wing echo chamber in your locality as opposed to a left wing one.

These people will keep barking which is what will make our victory even more sweeter when Modi and BJP is defeated one day. :D

The best way to deal with them is through FLOOD them with proof (and a healthy dose of polite humiliation :)) ) and let time do its thing (some will convert eventually).

If we keep saying that Modi is a fascist, bigot, etc......it will not make a mark even if its true cos labels often make people tune out the message.

Lets keep asking tough and stingiing questions and do our part.

These bunch of jokers can't rule over us forever and man o man...when they fall from grace, they are in for one hell of a ride.
I agree with all your points except the highlighted one. Don't like to engage with blind devotees!

I think Its better to stay mum than to engage with these serial lying imbeciles whose sole aim in life is to see nothing beyond their god occupying throne forever! Its not that they'll ever see the light or want to even see it.
 
Enough name calling on both sides (Pro-Modi / Anti-Modi).
Enough to make me not to take anyone from above groups seriously anymore
 
Enough name calling on both sides (Pro-Modi / Anti-Modi).
Enough to make me not to take anyone from above groups seriously anymore

All the name calling happens from one side though - bhakts, sanghis, feku, jumlebaaz list goes on. Some poster even called me a Sanghi in cricket section for supporting IPL..lol. I am amazed how losely the word sanghi being thrown around as if its a slur when in reality none of these guys ever have visited any Rss camps or any clue about them. I only chuckle at their ignorance anyway.

People only resort to name calling when they are frustrated, have lost all political acumen and having nothing substantial to debate...pretty much like Indian opposition :)
 
Enough name calling on both sides (Pro-Modi / Anti-Modi).
Enough to make me not to take anyone from above groups seriously anymore

Yes let me decide the legitimacy of the piints raised by name calling.

I am neither a Modi bhakt nor a Modi hater tactic. Lol.

If after everything that has happened in India, you still are not going to take any group "seriously", its clear which group you belong to.

Nothing wrong with it.

Just dont be ashamed of it. :)
 
All the name calling happens from one side though - bhakts, sanghis, feku, jumlebaaz list goes on. Some poster even called me a Sanghi in cricket section for supporting IPL..lol. I am amazed how losely the word sanghi being thrown around as if its a slur when in reality none of these guys ever have visited any Rss camps or any clue about them. I only chuckle at their ignorance anyway.

People only resort to name calling when they are frustrated, have lost all political acumen and having nothing substantial to debate...pretty much like Indian opposition :)

:)))

Yeah Modi haters are losing debates while Modi fans are the epitome of logic and rationality snd winning debates.

Another classic gaslighting tactic while your supreme leader is setting new records of facing humiliation lol.
 
I agree with all your points except the highlighted one. Don't like to engage with blind devotees!

I think Its better to stay mum than to engage with these serial lying imbeciles whose sole aim in life is to see nothing beyond their god occupying throne forever! Its not that they'll ever see the light or want to even see it.

Agreed.

I am talking about addressing the points.

Engage with those who can be engaged.

Add points when blatant lies aee being spewed even if they are complete bhakts. We do it so misinformation is fought.
 
Yes let me decide the legitimacy of the piints raised by name calling.

I am neither a Modi bhakt nor a Modi hater tactic. Lol.

If after everything that has happened in India, you still are not going to take any group "seriously", its clear which group you belong to.

Nothing wrong with it.

Just dont be ashamed of it. :)

I avoid reading too little, presuming too much and judging too early

I wrote that I am just against name calling..whether it is pappu or sanghi. It descends to propoganda as soon as name calling starts. My Opinion. I am not calling you out
 
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I wrote that I am just against name calling..whether it is pappu or sanghi. It descends to propoganda as soon as name calling starts. My Opinion. I am not calling you out

I don't disagree at all.

In fact, i echoed the same opinion a few posts above.

I have seen a lot of gaslighting tactics over the years by one group so I am a bit tired of hearing it.

Will one day make a thread listing them all lol.

Seems like I have got your intentions wrong.

Apologies.
 
:)))

Yeah Modi haters are losing debates while Modi fans are the epitome of logic and rationality snd winning debates.

Another classic gaslighting tactic while your supreme leader is setting new records of facing humiliation lol.

Not sure why you try to hide most of your post under smileys...it looks very childish.

Whether he is facing humiliation or not, people will decide that and give their verdict via votes. You dont represent all Indians, so a lecture from a Modi hater like you is not required..Lol.

Just put across your point thats all but no need to pass any judgement. Hopefully 2024 will be lucky for you guys and not another humiliation like 2019.
 
It's naive to believe Modi will be voted out next term because of his covid response. This assumes that Modi got voted in for his handling of the economy or governance, which was never the case. If you ask someone who voted for Modi as to why he did so, he is likely to give one of the following statements:

1. Modi is the only strong leader in Indian politics right now.

2. The opposition isn't strong enough.

3. He is the least corrupt leader out there and is better for the Indian economy.

And finally the most common one..

3. I'm not really a fan of Modi, but if not Modi, then who else..?

You can slice and dice it however you want but Modi got voted in primarily because he appeals to his hindu voter base with his Hindu first agenda. That's how demagogues all over the world operate - they appeal to the biggest insecurities of their voter base, be it Modi or Bolsonaro or Erdogan or Orban. And in Modi's case, his prime card is keeping the muslims, "sickulars" and "anti-nationals" in check.

At least in Bolsonaro's case, things are getting difficult for him with people coming out in streets protesting against his covid response in Brazil. But I don't think the BJP will face any issues in coming to power once again as long as they keep running the Hindu first agenda strong. It might not necessarily be Modi at the helm of affairs once again, it may be Amit Shah or even Adityanath. But I doubt the BJP will face any opposition the next time around as long as they appeal strongly to their primary voter base.
 
It's naive to believe Modi will be voted out next term because of his covid response. This assumes that Modi got voted in for his handling of the economy or governance, which was never the case. If you ask someone who voted for Modi as to why he did so, he is likely to give one of the following statements:

1. Modi is the only strong leader in Indian politics right now.

2. The opposition isn't strong enough.

3. He is the least corrupt leader out there and is better for the Indian economy.

And finally the most common one..

3. I'm not really a fan of Modi, but if not Modi, then who else..?

You can slice and dice it however you want but Modi got voted in primarily because he appeals to his hindu voter base with his Hindu first agenda. That's how demagogues all over the world operate - they appeal to the biggest insecurities of their voter base, be it Modi or Bolsonaro or Erdogan or Orban. And in Modi's case, his prime card is keeping the muslims, "sickulars" and "anti-nationals" in check.

At least in Bolsonaro's case, things are getting difficult for him with people coming out in streets protesting against his covid response in Brazil. But I don't think the BJP will face any issues in coming to power once again as long as they keep running the Hindu first agenda strong. It might not necessarily be Modi at the helm of affairs once again, it may be Amit Shah or even Adityanath. But I doubt the BJP will face any opposition the next time around as long as they appeal strongly to their primary voter base.

The main reason why Modi or any right leader gets votes bcoz they appeal to the masses. Most of the main stream champagne sipping elites in the world toes the lines of liberals to look politically correct. In doing so, the voice of silent majority gets hidden. The viewpoint of these elite liberals dont connect to a poor person on street and hence they gets attracted to right wing leaders. Modi represent what most uneducated, not so priviledged people whose voices have been supressed for ages.

All these no credible oppostion, if not Modi who etc are just excuses. I mean when SP-BSP came together in UP last time right? It was a very strong opposition. But still they couldnt beat Modi and they wont either in 2024. The simple reason being Modi connect to masses and represent their voice.
 
The main reason why Modi or any right leader gets votes bcoz they appeal to the masses. Most of the main stream champagne sipping elites in the world toes the lines of liberals to look politically correct. In doing so, the voice of silent majority gets hidden. The viewpoint of these elite liberals dont connect to a poor person on street and hence they gets attracted to right wing leaders. Modi represent what most uneducated, not so priviledged people whose voices have been supressed for ages.

All these no credible oppostion, if not Modi who etc are just excuses. I mean when SP-BSP came together in UP last time right? It was a very strong opposition. But still they couldnt beat Modi and they wont either in 2024. The simple reason being Modi connect to masses and represent their voice.

That's what I said. Modi's success is because he connects to his voter base and gives them what they want.
 
Not sure why you try to hide most of your post under smileys...it looks very childish.

Whether he is facing humiliation or not, people will decide that and give their verdict via votes. You dont represent all Indians, so a lecture from a Modi hater like you is not required..Lol.

Just put across your point thats all but no need to pass any judgement. Hopefully 2024 will be lucky for you guys and not another humiliation like 2019.

Neither do you represent all Indians.

Modi's performance is not subjective lol so people will talk about it and pass judgements.

Yeah hopefully we vote out this guy in 2024....atleast Modi haters die inside once in 5 years instead of daily.

Must be hard to cling on to electoral performance facing one of the weakest opponents in the history of independent India as your only achievement. :)
 
It's naive to believe Modi will be voted out next term because of his covid response. This assumes that Modi got voted in for his handling of the economy or governance, which was never the case. If you ask someone who voted for Modi as to why he did so, he is likely to give one of the following statements:

1. Modi is the only strong leader in Indian politics right now.

2. The opposition isn't strong enough.

3. He is the least corrupt leader out there and is better for the Indian economy.

And finally the most common one..

3. I'm not really a fan of Modi, but if not Modi, then who else..?

You can slice and dice it however you want but Modi got voted in primarily because he appeals to his hindu voter base with his Hindu first agenda. That's how demagogues all over the world operate - they appeal to the biggest insecurities of their voter base, be it Modi or Bolsonaro or Erdogan or Orban. And in Modi's case, his prime card is keeping the muslims, "sickulars" and "anti-nationals" in check.

At least in Bolsonaro's case, things are getting difficult for him with people coming out in streets protesting against his covid response in Brazil. But I don't think the BJP will face any issues in coming to power once again as long as they keep running the Hindu first agenda strong. It might not necessarily be Modi at the helm of affairs once again, it may be Amit Shah or even Adityanath. But I doubt the BJP will face any opposition the next time around as long as they appeal strongly to their primary voter base.

For all the criticism of Modi's handling of covid, I think the people understand that any other opposition leader would not have done any better.

Like you said, there is a lack of a opposition leader with national stature to take on Modi. Anti-incumbency is a strong factor in India, and even if BJP loses in 2024, I think the coalition government at the Center of regional parties will only last a couple of years before they fall apart as happened with the Janata Party in the late 1970s.
 
It's naive to believe Modi will be voted out next term because of his covid response. This assumes that Modi got voted in for his handling of the economy or governance, which was never the case. If you ask someone who voted for Modi as to why he did so, he is likely to give one of the following statements:

1. Modi is the only strong leader in Indian politics right now.

2. The opposition isn't strong enough.

3. He is the least corrupt leader out there and is better for the Indian economy.

And finally the most common one..

3. I'm not really a fan of Modi, but if not Modi, then who else..?

You can slice and dice it however you want but Modi got voted in primarily because he appeals to his hindu voter base with his Hindu first agenda. That's how demagogues all over the world operate - they appeal to the biggest insecurities of their voter base, be it Modi or Bolsonaro or Erdogan or Orban. And in Modi's case, his prime card is keeping the muslims, "sickulars" and "anti-nationals" in check.

At least in Bolsonaro's case, things are getting difficult for him with people coming out in streets protesting against his covid response in Brazil. But I don't think the BJP will face any issues in coming to power once again as long as they keep running the Hindu first agenda strong. It might not necessarily be Modi at the helm of affairs once again, it may be Amit Shah or even Adityanath. But I doubt the BJP will face any opposition the next time around as long as they appeal strongly to their primary voter base.

Nobody is expecting Modi to be voted out just for covid performance. Not even his staunchest haters lol.

But lets keep harping on the fact there are no opponents.

Lets keep talking about BJP money power.

Lets keep calling everyone else who are still discussing how this party can be voted out as hopeless naive fools while lamenting about the state of India.

After all, there is no alternative.

Discussion khatam.
 
For all the criticism of Modi's handling of covid, I think the people understand that any other opposition leader would not have done any better.

Like you said, there is a lack of a opposition leader with national stature to take on Modi. Anti-incumbency is a strong factor in India, and even if BJP loses in 2024, I think the coalition government at the Center of regional parties will only last a couple of years before they fall apart as happened with the Janata Party in the late 1970s.

I honestly think the BJP will win the next time as well. Maybe not with a resounding margin, but will win nonetheless.
 
Neither do you represent all Indians.

Modi's performance is not subjective lol so people will talk about it and pass judgements.

Yeah hopefully we vote out this guy in 2024....atleast Modi haters die inside once in 5 years instead of daily.

Must be hard to cling on to electoral performance facing one of the weakest opponents in the history of independent India as your only achievement. :)

You need to embrace the reality my friend. The way you guys talk - Modi has been humiliated, Indians are fed up of Modi, no achievemnt of BJP etc., one would think 2014 and 2019 never happened. Who voted for him and brought into power? Aliens? You dont like him fine but somehow you are trying to pass your personal preference as India's viewpoint which clearly is not. This holier than thou attitude must stop. No one is stopping you from criticizing Modi, that is your democratic right but pls leave the ultimate verdict to people of India.
 
You need to embrace the reality my friend. The way you guys talk - Modi has been humiliated, Indians are fed up of Modi, no achievemnt of BJP etc., one would think 2014 and 2019 never happened. Who voted for him and brought into power? Aliens? You dont like him fine but somehow you are trying to pass your personal preference as India's viewpoint which clearly is not. This holier than thou attitude must stop. No one is stopping you from criticizing Modi, that is your democratic right but pls leave the ultimate verdict to people of India.

Ok lets take a min and review this:

You need to embrace the reality my friend. The way you guys talk - Modi has been humiliated, Indians are fed up of Modi, no achievemnt of BJP etc., one would think 2014 and 2019 never happened.

Electoral performance and governance are 2 different things.

I bet CPI transformed Bengal into a super state cos they won for 30 years...or that Mamta did the same now that she has won for 3 terms...or Nitish did the same for Bihar.

lol.

Who voted for him and brought into power? Aliens?

People of India.

38% voteshare in 2014 and 45% in 2019 (NDA).

Not lik every Indian voted for them.

They got the mandate cos they got the most votes but lets not act like every Indian voted for them. In fact, majority didn't.

Same goes for all parties too.

You dont like him fine but somehow you are trying to pass your personal preference as India's viewpoint which clearly is not.

Commenting on his performance isn't subjective.

I didn't say this is the view of entire India. How can anyone when views are so fragmented.

This holier than thou attitude must stop.

It ain't holier than thou attitude.

It's contempt, pity and laughter.

As long as blind fans exist en-masse, haters will not stop laughing so much at Modi.

No one is stopping you from criticizing Modi,

you are right buddy.

but pls leave the ultimate verdict to people of India.

yeah as if I am holding it hostage.
 
Nobody is expecting Modi to be voted out just for covid performance. Not even his staunchest haters lol.

But lets keep harping on the fact there are no opponents.

Lets keep talking about BJP money power.

Lets keep calling everyone else who are still discussing how this party can be voted out as hopeless naive fools while lamenting about the state of India.

After all, there is no alternative.

Discussion khatam.

I was not calling you naive, in case you misinterpreted my post.

But I would also say that by discussing different strategies here, we're not going to change the ground realities, which is the fact that the BJP has strong support among the Indian voter base all across the country, maybe excepting the south but even Karnataka has a lot of BJP support. And that support doesn't seem to be dwindling anytime soon.
 
I was not calling you naive, in case you misinterpreted my post.

But I would also say that by discussing different strategies here, we're not going to change the ground realities, which is the fact that the BJP has strong support among the Indian voter base all across the country, maybe excepting the south but even Karnataka has a lot of BJP support. And that support doesn't seem to be dwindling anytime soon.

I know you are not calling me that bud.

I am saying this sweeping generalization in the name of "realism" is pointless when everyone knows the ground realities.

But the thing is.....instances like this trigger movements and change.

There was a point in time when no one could dethrone CPI in Bengal, Sheila in Delhi, SP/BSP in UP....but it happened.

It may or may not happen in 2024 but you know it as well as anyone, that there is widespread anger at the ground level and all people need is a credible alternative.

But I would also say that by discussing different strategies here, we're not going to change the ground realities,

Nobody alluded to that but generally instances like this can create a storm which grows and turns into a raging fire. Whether that will happen in 2024 is up for debate but imagine sitting in 2012 and saying "all this corruption scandals ain't gonna affect Congress" or "all this nandigram protests against gonna hurt CPI".

It always looks impossible till it happens.

Nothing gonna change discussing things in PP but we are just trying to understand different viewpoints on what are the different ways things will play out.

BJP winning in 2024 would be the obvious choice but is there a twist to the tale?
 
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Ok lets take a min and review this:



Electoral performance and governance are 2 different things.

I bet CPI transformed Bengal into a super state cos they won for 30 years...or that Mamta did the same now that she has won for 3 terms...or Nitish did the same for Bihar.

lol.



People of India.

38% voteshare in 2014 and 45% in 2019 (NDA).

Not lik every Indian voted for them.

They got the mandate cos they got the most votes but lets not act like every Indian voted for them. In fact, majority didn't.

Same goes for all parties too.



Commenting on his performance isn't subjective.

I didn't say this is the view of entire India. How can anyone when views are so fragmented.



It ain't holier than thou attitude.

It's contempt, pity and laughter.

As long as blind fans exist en-masse, haters will not stop laughing so much at Modi.



you are right buddy.



yeah as if I am holding it hostage.

Who decides governance? How do you measure whether the governance of a party is good or bad? Its decided by the votes of the people. So yes, electoral mandates gives verdict regarding the governance of a party. You persnally not able to come to terms with it bcoz the party that is winning here is not the one you support.

I despise TMC ruling in my home state bengal but since people voted them in power they must be doing something right in that state. I cant wait for Mamta to go and think she is a failure but thats my personal opinion. I dont want to pass it as viewpoint of people in Bengal.

In a democracy, electoral mandate is main thing. Rest all is...well just partisan opinions :)
 
Who decides governance? How do you measure whether the governance of a party is good or bad? Its decided by the votes of the people. So yes, electoral mandates gives verdict regarding the governance of a party. You persnally not able to come to terms with it bcoz the party that is winning here is not the one you support.

I despise TMC ruling in my home state bengal but since people voted them in power they must be doing something right in that state. I cant wait for Mamta to go and think she is a failure but thats my personal opinion. I dont want to pass it as viewpoint of people in Bengal.

In a democracy, electoral mandate is main thing. Rest all is...well just partisan opinions :)

Who decides governance? How do you measure whether the governance of a party is good or bad? Its decided by the votes of the people. So yes, electoral mandates gives verdict regarding the governance of a party.

There are multiple facets to governance.

Voters need not take all into account.

Forget about all that...

Are you sure governance = electoral performance?

Is that why Modi is whining about Nehruvian policies for the last decade? I mean COngress won for ages so their performance must be top class. Yet your brethren keep foaming at your mouth talking about their poor performance.

Take a moment and think it through dude.

You persnally not able to come to terms with it bcoz the party that is winning here is not the one you support.

Oh no. I have come to terms with it all right.

Just tired of what's happening to India.

Personally, my life couldn't be better but can't say the same about others.

I despise TMC ruling in my home state bengal but since people voted them in power they must be doing something right in that state.

You are 100% right.

That may be good overall governance or it may not be.

But here according to your logic, if she won by trouncing BJP, then her performance as CM is top notch.

I cant wait for Mamta to go and think she is a failure but thats my personal opinion. I dont want to pass it as viewpoint of people in Bengal.

Mamta is winning elections. You are saying electoral performance = governance. Yet she is a failure (according to you).

Even according to your personal opinion, you can't view her as failure due to your own logic.

In a democracy, electoral mandate is main thing. Rest all is...well just partisan opinions

Sure it is.

Such narrow outlook is how nations get destroyed.

Or is that only reserved when lecturing Pakistan about their policies?

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Please don't get me wrong. I have no ill-will towards you or any BJP fans here.

Just tired of weak arguments.
 
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There are multiple facets to governance.

Voters need not take all into account.

Forget about all that...

Are you sure governance = electoral performance?

Is that why Modi is whining about Nehruvian policies for the last decade? I mean COngress won for ages so their performance must be top class. Yet your brethren keep foaming at your mouth talking about their poor performance.

Take a moment and think it through dude.



Oh no. I have come to terms with it all right.

Just tired of what's happening to India.

Personally, my life couldn't be better but can't say the same about others.



You are 100% right.

That may be good overall governance or it may not be.

But here according to your logic, if she won by trouncing BJP, then her performance as CM is top notch.



Mamta is winning elections. You are saying electoral performance = governance. Yet she is a failure (according to you).

Even according to your personal opinion, you can't view her as failure due to your own logic.



Sure it is.

Such narrow outlook is how nations get destroyed.

Or is that only reserved when lecturing Pakistan about their policies?

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Please don't get me wrong. I have no ill-will towards you or any BJP fans here.

Just tired of weak arguments.

Again, how do you know voters are not taking everything into account while voting for Modi? Trust me all voters are intelligent enough and they do think through before voting. Its just that their viewpoint is different from yours and that is what democracy is all about.

Modi was right in criticizing Nehruvian/Congressi policies just like you are entitled to criticize BJPs governance now. That is what opposition is all about. But the fact that Congress ruled in India for 70 years, its a fact that majority of people liked the governance of congress back then and hence voted them in power. Similarly people are comfortable with BJP now and their ideologies, hence they voting for them.

Also dont worry about my narrow outlook and if it will destroy nation or not. Its just that my outlook is different to yours. The 'narrow' angle is your viewpoint. What you see 6 from your side, I see it as 9. That is called difference of opinion and people whose opinion gets most support in an election, that party forms government.

Lecturing Pakistan? Lol when I have ever done that. Too much NDTV bro.
 
Again, how do you know voters are not taking everything into account while voting for Modi? Trust me all voters are intelligent enough and they do think through before voting. Its just that their viewpoint is different from yours and that is what democracy is all about.

Modi was right in criticizing Nehruvian/Congressi policies just like you are entitled to criticize BJPs governance now. That is what opposition is all about. But the fact that Congress ruled in India for 70 years, its a fact that majority of people liked the governance of congress back then and hence voted them in power. Similarly people are comfortable with BJP now and their ideologies, hence they voting for them.

Also dont worry about my narrow outlook and if it will destroy nation or not. Its just that my outlook is different to yours. The 'narrow' angle is your viewpoint. What you see 6 from your side, I see it as 9. That is called difference of opinion and people whose opinion gets most support in an election, that party forms government.

Lecturing Pakistan? Lol when I have ever done that. Too much NDTV bro.

Again, how do you know voters are not taking everything into account while voting for Modi? Trust me all voters are intelligent enough and they do think through before voting. Its just that their viewpoint is different from yours and that is what democracy is all about.

Yes. Voters are taking everything into account and voting for Modi.

Just like they did in the past.

So why "complain" about the performance of past govt?

Heck, this current govt's favourite excuse is they are undoing 60 years of damage so they need more time.

Why are they insulting the very same voters who voted for them?

I wanna put the laughing emoji here but aap tho dil pe le rahe ho.

Modi was right in criticizing Nehruvian/Congressi policies just like you are entitled to criticize BJPs governance now. That is what opposition is all about. But the fact that Congress ruled in India for 70 years, its a fact that majority of people liked the governance of congress back then and hence voted them in power. Similarly people are comfortable with BJP now and their ideologies, hence they voting for them.

According to your logic, voters took into account everything and voted for congress.

So why is Modi insulting the voters' intelligence?

They wanted Nehruvian socialism apparently.

Also dont worry about my narrow outlook and if it will destroy nation or not. Its just that my outlook is different to yours. The 'narrow' angle is your viewpoint. What you see 6 from your side, I see it as 9. That is called difference of opinion and people whose opinion gets most support in an election, that party forms government.

No it isn't.

You and I are not the same.

I am not a fan of any politician.

Left or right.....everyone gets the same treatment.

Lecturing Pakistan? Lol when I have ever done that. Too much NDTV bro.

Wasn't directed at you per se but it's one of the favourite past times of certain Indian posters. I am surprised you are surprised when you have been in PP for so long.
 
I am not a fan of any politician.

Left or right.....everyone gets the same treatment.
Same here.

How could anyone be fan of these netas is beyond me! None of them are good enough to make someone their fan.

Be loyal to the country, not to its netas, not to its government!
 
Opinion: India Has To Be Bigger Than The Ego Of One Leader

Prime Minister Modi has completed seven years in office. Whether history will judge him harshly or kindly, only the future will tell. As of now, it seems he is facing the toughest challenge of his career. The last few months have robbed him of the aura that he carried. His government is busy in serious damage control, trying to salvage the image and prestige of the government. Now the entire Hindutva Family has been asked to pitch in. No wonder the second-in-command in RSS, Dattatreya Hosabale, is running from pillar to post, trying to infuse some confidence in the entire organisation which was found majorly wanting during the second wave of Corona.

Over the years as Prime Minister, Modi has very assiduously built his image as that of an elder statesman who is a cut above the rest and wishes to make India great again. He presented as that once-in-a-lifetime politician who does not hesitate to take tough decisions. Demonetisation and the abrogation of Article 370 have been showcased as proof of this even demonetisation ruined a flourishing economy and the decision on Kashmir has had major foreign policy repercussions. The Chinese transgression in Ladakh has also been linked with the abrogation of Article 370. But the government has not once acknowledged that both these decisions may not have been sound.

There was resentment over the Modi Government's enactment of Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) and three new farm laws. Anti-CAA protesters and farmers hit the streets, but the government and the BJP welcomed them with tags of anti-nationals and traitors, and accused them of working at the behest of foreign powers to tarnish the image of India and of Modi. Now, too, image management is the priority when Covid-19 has created mayhem in every family, every individual is scared to death, people are losing their loved ones due to a lack of oxygen, hospital beds and medicines, thousands of unknown dead bodies are floating in the Ganges. The burden of all this has been shifted to state governments; opposition leaders and parties are being blamed for the monumental mismanagement.

To define the government's behaviour as arrogant and narcissistic is too simplistic an argument. To err is human. But in crisis after crisis, to portray oneself as not having made a single misstep, suggesting invincibility and perfect judgement, despite evidence to the contrary, requires deeper psychoanalysis. Modi is not the first Indian leader who is immensely popular with the masses. He is not the only one who has attained cult status among his followers. Jawaharlal Nehru and Indira Gandhi, especially after the 1971 war, were more popular than Modi. Rajiv Gandhi, V P Singh, Atal Bihari Vajpayee were hugely popular too. But none of these leaders projected themselves as infallible. They had the humility to accept others' feedback and suggestions; opposition leaders and critics were not treated like enemies.

In the context of his immense popularity and magnetic connect with the people, Nehru whose memory the present government wants to erase permanently, wrote an article under the pseudonym Chanakya, which was published in 1937. He wrote, "A little twist and Jawaharlal might turn into a dictator sweeping aside the paraphernalia of a slow-moving democracy." He further wrote, "He (Nehru) must think that he is indispensable, and no man must be allowed to think so." The same Nehru, upon becoming Prime Minister, had in his cabinet his harshest critics and opponents like the Hindu Mahasabha's Shyama Prasad Mukherji and Babasaheb Ambedkar. Within the Congress party, he had major differences with Sardar Patel, Rajendra Prasad and many other stalwarts, but he always tried to build consensus. He wrote letters to Chief Ministers to convince them about his views.

Today, the same is unthinkable. In the last seven years, no cabinet member, or representative of the BJP, RSS and its affiliate organisations has had the courage to claim differences with the Prime Minister. All of them have been reduced to 'yes men'. The cabinet system has collapsed; there is hardly any discussion on important subjects; ministers are supposed to sign on the dotted lines and speak as directed. Parliamentary committees have become irrelevant. The Opposition is treated with disdain.

The treatment of state governments is also no different. If one is not aligned with the thought process of the centre, central agencies are unleashed. The Centre-State relationship is feeling an unprecedented strain. West Bengal is the classic case. Mamata Banerjee and her party are paying the price for emerging successful in the recent election. Similar heat was felt by Arvind Kejriwal, Pinarayi Vijayan, V Narayanaswamy and Uddhav Thackeray. In Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh, Uttarakhand and Arunachal Pradesh, Opposition governments were toppled in broad daylight. The Rajasthan government managed to somehow survive.

Other than the terrifying communal polarisation and the unprecedented Hindu-Muslim divide, today the relationship between the Centre and states poses the biggest threat to the integrity of the nation. The more the central government tries to impose a majoritarian ideology on the states, the more regional identities will feel threatened. The more they feel threatened, the more they will move away from the centre. In recent elections in West Bengal, Bengali nationalism reacted with a vengeance. Tamil nationalism is equally vehement in its opposition to the brazenness of Hindutva. Sikh leaders are very upset with the way farmers are being treated.

The attempt to assimilate diversity into one will prove counter-productive. But the BJP, led by Modi and Shah, does not believe in the politics of adjustment and accommodation. The party is entitled to have a pathological hatred towards its Opponents, but it must then weigh the costs. Let's not forget that India is bigger than the ego of a leader; the nation's utopia is larger than the dream of a Hindu Rashtra.

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Chief Secretary's Parting Shot: He Joins Team Mamata As Chief Adviser

Kolkata: Bengal's top officer Alapan Bandyopadhyay retired as Chief Secretary today instead of reporting to the Centre, in a dramatic escalation of Mamata Banerjee's feud with Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Mr Bandyopadhyay is now Chief Adviser to the Bengal government but that may not protect him from the Centre's displeasure.

He will face a charge-sheet and action for defying orders, said central government sources.


HK Dwivedi has taken over as the new Bengal Chief Secretary.

Mamata Banerjee had written to PM Modi that she would not accept Mr Bandyopadhyay's transfer to Delhi at a time he was handling the state's Covid crisis. The Centre's recall order came on Friday, hours after the Chief Minister skipped a Cyclone Yaas review meeting with PM Modi on Friday.

The Centre responded to this morning's letter by insisting that he has to report to Delhi.

"This is vendetta. I have never seen such a heartless Prime Minister. Just because they want to attack the Chief Minister, they attack the Chief Secretary. You have added insult to injury. There is no consultation. Why? Because you lost? Because you don't like Mamata Banerjee. The Centre may not be aware that he has superannuated and his services are not available for the Centre. I have decided we need his service for the Covid pandemic. For Covid and for Cyclone Yaas, he must continue his service to the poor, the state, the country, the affected people..." the Chief Minister said.

She accused PM Modi of treating bureaucrats like bonded labourers. "If a bureaucrat is insulted after he has dedicated his life to his work, what message is the government and PM sending out? There are many Bengali cadre officers at the Centre. Can I recall them without consultation, Mr Prime Minister? Mr Busy Prime Minister? Mr Mann-ki-baat Prime Minister?"

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Basically what Ashutosh was saying above. Great example of one man's fetish for absolute power, ego and control over everything trumps national welfare as the this Bandyopadhyay guy was leading WB's fight against Covid! Especially in a state where the event manager has just been trounced really badly despite throwing everything at the incumbent.

For being this stubborn to the might of so much power, huge props to Mamata!
 
Still remember how many predictions were made if demonetization, rafael etc will be the last nail in his coffin.

Still remember how many dramas were staged by opposition like award wapasi, intolerance, ghar wapasi etc.

The result was people voted him in power with even bigger mandate in 2019. Even so called Mahagatbandhan couldnt stop him.

But the opposition learned no lesson at all. Even during his 2nd term, they continued with the dramas like Delhi riots, Khalistani protests etc.expecting people to have a change of heart. The result is he still has the highest approval rating among all global leaders. As I said many times, the more you try to down the man...more will people vote for him.

Now lets see if Covid 19 become the final nail in his coffin :)

That just proves that most of the Indians don't use their brain during elections. This is nothing to boast about lol. :inti
 
If voters vote for Modi, they are not intelligent and not taking everything into account. Lol.

No wonder the people who say this, are the ones who keep losing the elections.

This elitist behaviour is one of the prime reason why these people lose, along with corruption and minority appeasement.
 
If voters vote for Modi, they are not intelligent and not taking everything into account. Lol.

No wonder the people who say this, are the ones who keep losing the elections.

This elitist behaviour is one of the prime reason why these people lose, along with corruption and minority appeasement.

They live in an echo chamber where they look down upon those on the other side, but fail to realize they they are becoming more irrelevant with time.
 
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