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Mohammad Amir’s line and length at the 2nd Test at Headingley

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Back to old habits again bowling back of a length and wider of the stumps.Should have learned lessons from last game where he pitched it up and was rewarded but he is back to square one.
 
Even the young Sam Curran shamed him with his ability to bowl closer to the stumps
 
Couldn't watch much of the match today, but I heard the ball wasn't swinging much later on.

Interesting to see what happens tomorrow with overcast conditions predicted.
 
Couldn't watch much of the match today, but I heard the ball wasn't swinging much later on.

Interesting to see what happens tomorrow with overcast conditions predicted.

In those cases, most bowlers don't want to pitch it up.
 
When you get hit for boundaries you automatically start pitching it down. It's what happened to Anderson, broad at Lord's and this time to the Pak bowlers.

If Amir gets more response tomorrow morning he will get excited and pitch it up. Hopefully there will be some overs tomorrow under cloudy weather.
 
When you get hit for boundaries you automatically start pitching it down. It's what happened to Anderson, broad at Lord's and this time to the Pak bowlers.

If Amir gets more response tomorrow morning he will get excited and pitch it up. Hopefully there will be some overs tomorrow under cloudy weather.

Be good if we get a grey morning as England did, as we’ll need early wickets if we are to bounce back.

Watching throughout the day, sun wasn’t on our side. Disappointed in Shafiq and Haris wickets, they were well set...

Also, we don’t look great at dispatching poor balls on the leg side?
 
Repeating the same stuff is really become frustrating. Amir needs to pitch it up more. Hassan Ali has been successful because he is willing to pitch the ball up.
 
The OP is talking nonsense.

Many of the runs against him were going off thick edges and through 3rd man. Honestly some of you have no idea about fast bowling. If he pitches it up when there’s no movement and gets hit you lot would still be crying and whining about him.

The real reason Pakistan are in the dumps today is they batted first but faced some decent English bowling in very helpful conditions but the top order was simply not up to the task to deal with it.

The Pak bowling was decent but didn’t get anywhere close to the same
Movement as the English but also they had to defend a substandard score.
 
I'm fairly critical of Amir but in this instance I think this is unfair criticism.

I might be wrong when I say this but...

...when the batters have put about half the par score for the pitch, and the ball isn't moving, pitching it up is closer to serving up pies.

The ball did move more and longer for England because they had overcast conditions.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mohammad Amir was booed when he came out to bat. <br>Shouts of no-ball from sections of the crowd when he has been bowling.<br>He's silenced the boo boys with some excellent bowling to take the wicket of Joe Root.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1002917054893232129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Has been our best bowler. It's pretty amusing how people find ways to criticize him.

Nothing on offer still bowled his heart out.
 
Has been our best bowler. It's pretty amusing how people find ways to criticize him.

Nothing on offer still bowled his heart out.

I haven't watched much of this match, but my main criticism of him would be a general one, that he doesn't get enough wickets with the new ball in the opening spell. It's been something of a Pakistani trait down the years, not just Amir. Most of them are a lot better at getting something from the old ball. Aqib Javed and Wasim Akram were the two who I associated with using the new ball well, Aqib especially used to ball consistently in the right lines and get some swing. He'd have been deadly if he had a yard more pace.
 
Whatever he's doing he's not fit for Tests. Today all day he's been holding up his shoulder nearly every over.

He has not been getting close to the stumps either and the ball not being pitched up has been another issue for him.
 
Whatever he's doing he's not fit for Tests. Today all day he's been holding up his shoulder nearly every over.

He has not been getting close to the stumps either and the ball not being pitched up has been another issue for him.

Did you actually watch the game? He was the best bowler run in bowling good speeds and picking up wickets.
 
Did you actually watch the game? He was the best bowler run in bowling good speeds and picking up wickets.

You starting on me now after we had a laugh the other day? Lol.

Take it with a pinch of salt, he's good no doubt but the issues are there as well they're pointed out on air too.
 
I'm fairly critical of Amir but in this instance I think this is unfair criticism.

I might be wrong when I say this but...

...when the batters have put about half the par score for the pitch, and the ball isn't moving, pitching it up is closer to serving up pies.

The ball did move more and longer for England because they had overcast conditions.

A lot of kids here will just repeat whatever they hear from experts. Pitching it up is the new thing so you will hear it nonstop from them.
 
The ball isn't moving partly because they aren't pitching it up. Need the ball fuller for it to swing.
 
The ball isn't moving partly because they aren't pitching it up. Need the ball fuller for it to swing.
Hasan and Abbas got driven pretty consistently when they pitched it up. Lack of swing was an issue today.
 
Hasan rarely pitched it up. The batsmen have countered Abbas by standing outside their crease and he isn't quick enough to push them back. Sarfraz should stand up like he did at Lord's.
 
It's almost as if someone's been watching highlights, and not the whole innings...

He bowled well, and he set up Root well too. the guy can't do anything right. He'll get slammed either way.

Pathetic.
 
Amir's looking like a far better bowler this series. He needs to button up a few things but overall he's our best hope to win the match and series. If our batsmen can set England a 275+ target I feel Amir will be tough to handle in the 4th innings.
 
Dont know what game ppers have been watching but amir has bowled well so far this test and looked our most threatening bowler Hes bowled good lines at decent speed

Its a pretty flat pitch and the guys have done well to keep chipping away One stat showed the bowling has pitched on full or on a good length as much as lords There just isnt as much help on this pitch

If anyone is to blame for pakistan being behind in this test its the batsmen and not the bowlers
 
Can't do much here since the runs scored weren't that many, there is no way too put pressure on English batsmen when you only have 170 on board
 
He bowled well in this series, the problem is, he will be back to his usual trash in the next series (in the UAE)
 
Have you guys been watching a different game?!

We have been pitching it up but haven’t been blessed with the overhead conditions. We win the toss and it’s sunny, right decision to bat. However when we came it to bat the conditions changed and become overcast, England bowled really well but they had the best conditions with the new ball.

When it was our turn with the new ball it was late afternoon with sun breaking through, not the best conditions on a flat track. Yesterday it was slightly overcast with an old ball, the only chance of swing was reverse but the wet outfield negated that possibility.

Given everything, Amir was by far our best bowler. Bowled really tight and had many near misses. His scorecard could be better if the ball didn’t keep going through the slip/gully region.
 
Best bowler for Pakistan in this game.

Improved showing in this series . .
 
Bowled well but how I wish he had a bit more zip and was able to bowl spells at 87-92mph range consistently, that would give him a cutting edge. I am still not convinced that he has the strength or willpower to bowl yorkers and pitch it up regularly even when the conditions suit it. These adjustments could make a big difference between being an unlucky bowler who gets batsmen playing and missing every now and again to one who can be lethal.
 
I think he’s injured his arm. Apart from very occasional unplayable balls he is consistently average and doesn’t create enough chances. In these overcast Headingley conditions he should have been more of a threat
 
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Just watching Anderson and Broad on the same pitch, is it not obvious that they are bowling a fuller length , and causing more problems and looking more penetrative.
 
I think he’s injured his arm. Apart from very occasional unplayable balls he is consistently average and doesn’t create enough chances. In these overcast Headingley conditions he should have been more of a threat
Need to work on his fitness was late 80’s last test 2nd innings and got rewarded however he has to many niggles to go full throttle
 
Faheem wasn't pitching it too but was the most successful bowler of the lot simply because he was bowling a tight line.

Its not all about pitching it up but accuracy and control as well. And ofcourse you need a little bit of luck as well. :sammy
 
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