Mohammad Amir has now delivered in two ICC Tournament Finals!

[shaz619]

His 3fer in the Champions Trophy final was magnificence, but also recall his incredible spell during the World T20 in 2009; Amir would dismiss player of the tournament Dilshan in his first over, it was a huge blow and helped set Lanka back before their innings had barely begun; they did not get out of the blocks after that and Razzaq was brilliant as well.

Amir's figures in the CT final recently:

6 overs, 2 maidens, 28 dots and 3 wickets for 16 runs

Economy: 2.66

Amir's figures in the World T20 final in 2009:

4 overs, 1 maiden (rare breed), 12 dots (the most in the game, also rare in general) and 1 wicket (That of player of the tournament) for just 30 runs.

Economy: 7.5

Amir has now delivered in two ICC finals and helped his country win a couple of Trophies.

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] [MENTION=100918]Square Drive[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Often the pressure of a high profile final never mind one against India can lead to players crumbling, but in the case of Amir he has delivered not once but twice! for his country, it is simply outstanding!

A champion player who delivers during those key moments in the end it's what matters more then anything else in the end rather then superficial greatness based on inferior opposition and favourable condition. He stood up when it counted, it's not easy to bowl on modern pitches and he was among a very small number bowlers who managed to get the ball to deviate during the Champions Trophy.

 

[shaz619]

Pakistan have not won many ICC trophies beyond the 92 Wold Cup, but Amir has played a big role in his country attaining 2 ICC Trophies after Imran Khan's Triumph [MENTION=134473]Haroon786[/MENTION]

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Big game player mashaAllah. No one steps up their game like Amir does on the big stage. I thought that SL game performance was even more impressive. His composure was simply brilliant.

 

[shaz619]

It took Pakistan 17 years to win another ICC trophy after the 92 WC win in 2009 when Pakistan claimed the World T20. Mohammad Amir made his debut during the 2009 World T20 tournament and he made an instant impact! even more impressive when you put things into perspective [MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION]

Then Amir returned from his ban in 2016 to help his country win another ICC Trophy in 2017 just a year later. It's not like he has had it easy himself, it has been a tough journey and his team mates have often not provided the best support but despite that he has been performing well and even his harshest of critics would tell you he remained the best bowler in the country through all the criticism.

Pakistan need to make sure they manage his work load effectively to limit the possibility of injury, other then that I have no real concerns because class is permanent and Amir has proven that he can return the faith which Pakistan fans and the PCB have invested in him, just support him always because the man is a hero and will come good when it matters the most.

Pakistan Zindabad! Thank you Amir! you have exorcised all your demons and hopefully you take many wickets in the future!

 

[KingKhanWC]

This is a champions temprement. Some sportsmen fail under the spotlight #kohli

Others thrive on the big occasion, knowing they have the ability to show the world what they are made of.

Amir was running in faster than ever before, bowling upto 90mph each delivery.

God willing he will do the same in the 2019 world cup final.

 

[shaz619]

Big game player mashaAllah. No one steps up their game like Amir does on the big stage. I thought that SL game performance was even more impressive. His composure was simply brilliant.

We are very blessed to have him, with regards to his overall development and future progression; where does he stand? I recall you highlighting some areas for improvement a while back, is he on the right track? his game awareness, cricketing IQ, pace and control are fantastic; his in-swinger remains his biggest weapon but the way he sets up batsman is one of his major strengths

 

[shaz619]

This is a champions temprement. Some sportsmen fail under the spotlight

Others thrive on the big occasion, knowing they have the ability to show the world what they are made of.

Amir was running in faster than ever before, bowling upto 90mph each delivery.

God willing he will do the same in the 2019 world cup final.

I hope so! plus the WC is in England, just make sure you get the tickets well in advance!

Totally agree, I value performances during key moments more then anything else and Amir has delivered no once but twice! both tournaments were in England as well and he just loves playing here

 

[shaz619]

For those interested and from the UK; the Champions Trophy highlightes are available on bbc iplayer for about 26 days now:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...trophy-highlights-2017-final-india-v-pakistan

I could watch it again and again [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=48620]Cpt. Rishwat[/MENTION] [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION]

 

[idrizzy]

What a player. Goes to show that he'll make an impact whether he has the limelight on him (in 2009 final) or hasn't (CT 2017 final) where all eyes were on Hasan.

He is our most skillful bowler, and I'd take an 'average Amir' all year if he turns up for finals and when it does matter, rather than the opposite.

No one can complain about his performances since he singled handedly dismantled the 'best top 3 in the world'. Not to mention vsing India where stakes and pressure is at its zenith.

Champion bowler.

 

[shaz619]

What a player. Goes to show that he'll make an impact whether he has the limelight on him (in 2009 final) or hasn't (CT 2017 final) where all eyes were on Hasan.

He is our most skillful bowler, and I'd take an 'average Amir' all year if he turns up for finals and when it does matter, rather than the opposite.

No one can complain about his performances since he singled handedly dismantled the 'best top 3 in the world'. Not to mention vsing India where stakes and pressure is at its zenith.

Champion bowler.

I keep forgetting you are from England as well pay attention to post #9

I totally agree, he has been given a fair amount of stick in recent times; but he has not had the best of support from the fielders and pitches now do not provide as much assistance. However his control has remained fantastic and he has been working hard, we should also give a lot of credit to Azhar Mahmood! for once a bowling coach who has not been hired just to lay undeh

 

[Chief Destroyer]

We are very blessed to have him, with regards to his overall development and future progression; where does he stand? I recall you highlighting some areas for improvement a while back, is he on the right track? his game awareness, cricketing IQ, pace and control are fantastic; his in-swinger remains his biggest weapon but the way he sets up batsman is one of his major strengths

7/10 I'd say. His glutes and hip mobility is not pre-ban level yet where he used to get side-on with and really get on top of his front leg and bound off the crease. Now a lot of the pace is coming from the upperbody. I posted that in Azhar's article thread, hope he read it. He's just gotta keep working and find a professional trainer in NA during the offseason. He's gotta get the glutes firing faster.

 

[idrizzy]

I keep forgetting you are from England as well pay attention to post #9

I totally agree, he has been given a fair amount of stick in recent times; but he has not had the best of support from the fielders and pitches now do not provide as much assistance. However his control has remained fantastic and he has been working hard, we should also give a lot of credit to Azhar Mahmood! for once a bowling coach who has not been hired just to lay undeh

Got it recorded on Sky, so forget 26 days when I got a LIFETIME

Also means I got a lifetime of my Mum's Pakistani drama shows too

I think credit goes to everyone, especially the players. They could've easily just given up after the first Indian loss, but we were a bit thankful that we played South Aftica who are natural chokers, and a seriously underrated partnership between ya boi Amir and Sarfraz gave us that win vsing Sri Lanka after a typical Pakistani collapse.

From then on, we never looked back.

But most definitely there's been a change in attitude and this win vs India almost feels revolutionary.

 

[shaz619]

7/10 I'd say. His glutes and hip mobility is not pre-ban level yet where he used to get side-on with and really get on top of his front leg and bound off the crease. Now a lot of the pace is coming from the upperbody. I posted that in Azhar's article thread, hope he read it. He's just gotta keep working and find a professional trainer in NA during the offseason. He's gotta get the glutes firing faster.

Great insight, am not as sound as you with regards to the specific technicalities of his action but from the naked eye it is visible that some tweaks have been made to the 2010 Amir and it does become an area of concern because we want him bowling at 100%, having said that even a 70% Amir it seems is too much to handle hopefully he continues to get better

 

[sadida97]

7/10 I'd say. His glutes and hip mobility is not pre-ban level yet where he used to get side-on with and really get on top of his front leg and bound off the crease. Now a lot of the pace is coming from the upperbody. I posted that in Azhar's article thread, hope he read it. He's just gotta keep working and find a professional trainer in NA during the offseason. He's gotta get the glutes firing faster.

But he has made improvements after his comeback right ? How much time do you think it will take for him to get to 10/10 ?

 

[waleed88]

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] [MENTION=100918]Square Drive[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Often the pressure of a high profile final never mind one against India can lead to players crumbling, but in the case of Amir he has delivered not once but twice! for his country, it is simply outstanding!

A champion player who delivers during those key moments in the end it's what matters more then anything else in the end rather then superficial greatness based on inferior opposition and favourable condition. He stood up when it counted, it's not easy to bowl on modern pitches and he was among a very small number bowlers who managed to get the ball to deviate during the Champions Trophy.

Failed to deliver against India in Asia Cup 2010, where Harbhajan hit him for a six in the second last ball.. that was also an ICC tournament

 

[JibranAnsari]

His first over against srilanka in the finals was awesome and got a big wicket too. Good game for him but not excellent by his standards.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Great insight, am not as sound as you with regards to the specific technicalities of his action but from the naked eye it is visible that some tweaks have been made to the 2010 Amir and it does become an area of concern because we want him bowling at 100%, having said that even a 70% Amir it seems is too much to handle hopefully he continues to get better

Yes, he's blessed with a rubber-elastic-type body with a very fast arm. Born to bowl fast. His bowling IQ, skill and composure on the big stage is second to none.

 

[shaz619]

Got it recorded on Sky, so forget 26 days when I got a LIFETIME

Also means I got a lifetime of my Mum's Pakistani drama shows too

I think credit goes to everyone, especially the players. They could've easily just given up after the first Indian loss, but we were a bit thankful that we played South Aftica who are natural chokers, and a seriously underrated partnership between ya boi Amir and Sarfraz gave us that win vsing Sri Lanka after a typical Pakistani collapse.

From then on, we never looked back.

But most definitely there's been a change in attitude and this win vs India almost feels revolutionary.

I don't have sky, can't afford it. I watched the game on NOW TV for 7 quid that's an awesome feature still, I've criticised sky's insane costs but they do provide an amazing service it has to be said. lol just make sure those drama's are not on during the cricket or else you are doomed! I think you can record them in the background while the cricket is on right? so you're all cool then

Definitely, it was a brutal defeat and everyone had a bad game; even as the no.8 ranked team for me they were better then that performance and credit to all involved for putting that loss behind them and upsetting the odds in every game! literally!

 

[bujhee kom]

Decent bowler.

 

[shaz619]

Failed to deliver against India in Asia Cup 2010, where Harbhajan hit him for a six in the second last ball.. that was also an ICC tournament

It is known as the ACC Asia Cup and lacks prestige compared to an official "ICC" Tournament which includes the World Cup, Champions Trophy and World T20; Amir has delivered two of those more important Trophies for Pakistan.

Furthermore, the 2016 Asia Cup event was the first event played in the T20I format and functioned as a preparatory tournament ahead of the 2016 ICC World Twenty20. So in other words a glorified warm up tournament in that regard, nothing really compared to an official ICC event

 

[Chief Destroyer]

But he has made improvements after his comeback right ? How much time do you think it will take for him to get to 10/10 ?

Yes, quite a bit. He was at like 4/10 during the England tour.

 

[idrizzy]

Failed to deliver against India in Asia Cup 2010, where Harbhajan hit him for a six in the second last ball.. that was also an ICC tournament

Needed only 7 to win in the last over. Not like he had to defend 19 off an over

 

[KingKhanWC]

For those interested and from the UK; the Champions Trophy highlightes are available on bbc iplayer for about 26 days now:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...trophy-highlights-2017-final-india-v-pakistan


I could watch it again and again [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] [MENTION=48620]Cpt. Rishwat[/MENTION] [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION]

I've watched those highlights around 4 times now.

I'm gutted I didn't record for the full game but hopefully a DVD will made for release in the future.

 

[idrizzy]

I don't have sky, can't afford it. I watched the game on NOW TV for 7 quid that's an awesome feature still, I've criticised sky's insane costs but they do provide an amazing service it has to be said. lol just make sure those drama's are not on during the cricket or else you are doomed! I think you can record them in the background while the cricket is on right? so you're all cool then

Definitely, it was a brutal defeat and everyone had a bad game; even as the no.8 ranked team for me they were better then that performance and credit to all involved for putting that loss behind them and upsetting the odds in every game! literally!

To be honest, I don't really watch TV. I usually stay on the internet so your plan for 'one-off' games are more cost effective.

Despite beating the 1st, 3rd and 4th ranked teams, we hardly gained from the 8th team in terms of points. I mean, I don't look at these rankings religiously since I believe it's all a bunch of phooey but only 6th? And still under 100 points? Bizarre.

Oh well, I'll take being 8th and winning trophies any day of the week

 

[Red Devil]

Clutch player mA, never gets overawed by the occasion. His performance at the 2009 WC was pretty extraordinary considering he was only 17 at the time! Just goes to show you how mentally strong he is.

 

[shaz619]

To be honest, I don't really watch TV. I usually stay on the internet so your plan for 'one-off' games are more cost effective.

Despite beating the 1st, 3rd and 4th ranked teams, we hardly gained from the 8th team in terms of points. I mean, I don't look at these rankings religiously since I believe it's all a bunch of phooey but only 6th? And still under 100 points? Bizarre.

Oh well, I'll take being 8th and winning trophies any day of the week

You don't want to know the depths a student is willing to go in order to be cost effective

I know, I have friends whom am unable to explain why we have only jumped up two spots but I reassure them that at least we no longer have to worry about qualifying automatically for the WC in order to get them happy

I mean look at India, they are no.1 in the World; can't recall the last time they won a Test series in England, AUS or SA; or at the very least draw a series in those places outside asia

In a way I don't mind the no.6 ranking, it means all involved will work harder to strive for the pinnacle and like you say winning trophies is more important anyway

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

He is a champion bowler. He's got the big game genes :Kobe

He's got the skill and intelligence. That is a dangerous combo.

 

[saeed5646]

amir have shut his haters for atleast 4 month .What a spell that was considering he was not

playing semi final

 

[Hasan123]

[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION] [MENTION=100918]Square Drive[/MENTION] [MENTION=47617]Red Devil[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=3474]TalhaSyed[/MENTION] [MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Often the pressure of a high profile final never mind one against India can lead to players crumbling, but in the case of Amir he has delivered not once but twice! for his country, it is simply outstanding!

A champion player who delivers during those key moments in the end it's what matters more then anything else in the end rather then superficial greatness based on inferior opposition and favourable condition. He stood up when it counted, it's not easy to bowl on modern pitches and he was among a very small number bowlers who managed to get the ball to deviate during the Champions Trophy.

He's a big game player. You could see when Azhar dropped the catch how frustrated he was. I am certain he would have dimissed Virat eventually had he not got him out the next ball.

Always kept faith in him, glad he proved me right on the biggest stage.

 

[Sirris]

Some people are just born for the big stage. While other work hard on it and still fail to perform when it matters the most.

 

[shaz619]

amir have shut his haters for atleast 4 month .What a spell that was considering he was not

playing semi final

)

That mad me laugh because it is probably true, I see them poking their nose in this thread with ignorant posts even though their face is covered in egg. Some fans just like to pose as Pakistan fans unfortunately, they really want to bleed blue. But when it comes to the true fans, DIL DIL PAKISTAN !

 

[shaz619]

He's a big game player. You could see when Azhar dropped the catch how frustrated he was. I am certain he would have dimissed Virat eventually had he not got him out the next ball.

Always kept faith in him, glad he proved me right on the biggest stage.

True, he was bowling like a man possessed; eventually he'd have snared Kohli. Easily Amir's best spell of his career in the limited format.

 

[waleed88]

Needed only 7 to win in the last over. Not like he had to defend 19 off an over

It was Harbhajan Singh

 

[Asif khan]

The wicket was so flat, I truly feared the worst before the innings started. I was even worried for Amir given his back spasm and praying he doesn't break down.

Now all i can say is thank you Amir for not only calming my nerves BUT effectively winning the game for Pakistan inside 10 overs.

What an amazing big game player, the fire in the belly, THE PASSION, SKILL AND INTENSITY. They didn't stand a chance!

We are the Champions!!

 

[Monsee]

I've watched those highlights around 4 times now.

I'm gutted I didn't record for the full game but hopefully a DVD will made for release in the future.

If India had won, that DVD would be pushed to our noses by every Ram, Pandit and Lullu Parshaad, by now. I am in U.S. so don't have the luxury to even play it on the site

 

[Haz95]

Amir most definitely is a big match player, the amount of pressure alone he handled when he returned to team Pakistan is enough evidence...this ICC stuff is just a few more cherrys and icings on top.

not the right place but special shoutout to mr Clutch AKA Shikar Dhawan, knows how to handle the pressure as opposed to some of his 'superior' goAT colleagues.

 

[shaz619]

Amir most definitely is a big match player, the amount of pressure alone he handled when he returned to team Pakistan is enough evidence...this ICC stuff is just a few more cherrys and icings on top.

not the right place but special shoutout to mr Clutch AKA Shikar Dhawan, knows how to handle the pressure as opposed to some of his 'superior' goAT colleagues.

Very true, another player would have crumbeld under the weight of expectations and immense scrunity not to mention the psychological trauma one has to overcome of the whole ordeal; I hope he can soon get to a position where he is enjoying his cricket and that seems to be the indication in recent times, that is when Amir truly will be able to express himself further and there is still some room for improvement; when he returned he didn't get much support but was still at 40%, during the CT he was at 70%; even an Amir at 20-30% is still the best pacer in Pakistan and world class. Imagine the carnage once he gets back to his optimum threshold in terms of a fluent action and no baggage from past demons with 500% support from all involves when it comes to coach, players, management, fans and media.

Admire his resilience, his most admirable trait in my opinion and he has something called a fighting spirit; you either have it or you don't which is why the cowards are distinguished from the warriors when push comes to shove. Dhawan and Amir are warriors.

 

[KingKhanWC]

If India had won, that DVD would be pushed to our noses by every Ram, Pandit and Lullu Parshaad, by now. I am in U.S. so don't have the luxury to even play it on the site

PCB won't think of releasing such a DVD esp with fakes being popular in Pakistan.

You could watch these highlights. A tease though.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/champions-trophy/video/407066

 

[JimmyGetsBuckets]

No doubt about Amir hes a clutch player.

 

[Square Drive]

What a player.

Great to have him with us and not only was he clutch with the ball this tournament, but he also came through with the bat in a knockout game.

Terrific player and he's still very young.

Don't think anyone in the future can get Kohli twice in two balls with those deliveries that Amir managed to fire one after another.

Just fantastic.

 

[Hasan123]

True, he was bowling like a man possessed; eventually he'd have snared Kohli. Easily Amir's best spell of his career in the limited format.

Yes easily his best. He'll only get better from here.

 

[omcswe]

Decent bowler.

the likes of whom are dime a dozen running around in cox bazaar. right?

 

[CricFan2012]

Agree, big match player who only saves for the bigger occasion.

PS mods, please merge with my previous thread on the same subject matter.

 

[shaz619]

This is Amir right now [MENTION=139150]aliasad1998[/MENTION] :

 

[bujhee kom]

the likes of whom are dime a dozen running around in cox bazaar. right?

Did I say that?

 

[saeed5646]

)

That mad me laugh because it is probably true, I see them poking their nose in this thread with ignorant posts even though their face is covered in egg. Some fans just like to pose as Pakistan fans unfortunately, they really want to bleed blue. But when it comes to the true fans, DIL DIL PAKISTAN !

Oh, It's True! It's Damn True!

 

[Haroon786]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION], he's done it in 2 ICC tourneys, I want him to do it in the 2019 WC, this is definitely Pakistan's best chance since the 2011 WC to become world champions of cricket. With the team that has blossomed unexpectedly, I see them mounting a serious challenge given that they continue to show the upward trajectory displayed since the abomination in Australia.

The pitches won't be too different, the conditions will be similar and hopefully the result will be the same too.

 

[shaz619]

Oh, It's True! It's Damn True!

Amir with Ankle lock on Kohli in the final

 

[shaz619]

[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION], he's done it in 2 ICC tourneys, I want him to do it in the 2019 WC, this is definitely Pakistan's best chance since the 2011 WC to become world champions of cricket. With the team that has blossomed unexpectedly, I see them mounting a serious challenge given that they continue to show the upward trajectory displayed since the abomination in Australia.

The pitches won't be too different, the conditions will be similar and hopefully the result will be the same too.

I agree, it's a golden opportunity and we tend to fancy ourselves in England! we just need to make sure we get our ticket in advance to give Pak maximum support! they genuinely get a big boost from the Pakistan fans when they cheer them on, it's something which has become strange for them due to no cricket at home and when the fans lift them they get that much needed adrenaline rush

 

[saeed5646]

Amir with Ankle lock on Kohli in the final

ROFL

amir did outclass kohli no doubt about that

 

[Haroon786]

I agree, it's a golden opportunity and we tend to fancy ourselves in England! we just need to make sure we get our ticket in advance to give Pak maximum support! they genuinely get a big boost from the Pakistan fans when they cheer them on, it's something which has become strange for them due to no cricket at home and when the fans lift them they get that much needed adrenaline rush

So true, definitely will iA attend the matches in the World Cup as I expect to be able to afford them then haha!

There's a MCC match vs Afghanistan at Lord's soon, are you going to it?

 

[Pakistanian]

He's a world class player, in American sports people only care if you win rings (championships), so Amir with 2 world titles would be rated higher here than Dale Steyn, James Anderson and Tim Southee.

 

[QalandarFan]

My Favorite Player for a reason!

 

[marlonbrowndo]

This is Amir right now [MENTION=139150]aliasad1998[/MENTION] :

Haha good one

 

[BakuGM]

I wrote it earlier in another thread and would like to repeat it again. For me Amir should have been the MVP of the game given Indian had the talent to chase 348 runs if not for Amir"s spell. If course there was a chance that Hassan or Junaid would have taken these wickets too but in the end it was Amir and he rightly deserved the award.

 

[shaz619]

So true, definitely will iA attend the matches in the World Cup as I expect to be able to afford them then haha!

There's a MCC match vs Afghanistan at Lord's soon, are you going to it?

True worst case scenario we should be able to regardless but if you get tickets in advance it would avoid having to pay ridiculous sums later on. Unlikely I will be going will be busy around then, who will be playing for the MCC side?

 

[waleed88]

It is known as the ACC Asia Cup and lacks prestige compared to an official "ICC" Tournament which includes the World Cup, Champions Trophy and World T20; Amir has delivered two of those more important Trophies for Pakistan.

Furthermore, the 2016 Asia Cup event was the first event played in the T20I format and functioned as a preparatory tournament ahead of the 2016 ICC World Twenty20. So in other words a glorified warm up tournament in that regard, nothing really compared to an official ICC event

This glorified warm up was the reason Amir played in the side for a whole year without any performance to show for it until now..

We are allowing alot of free run in the side by giving Amir leeway to perform only once a year

 

[waleed88]

Which is why Amir should have fun in the first team without any performance because he will perform in a final...

2009 Wt20 is quite a far stretch 4 overs for 30 runs and 1 wicket is hardly amazing, it was Razzaq who destroyed the Srilankan lineup but ofcourse whatever suits the narrative

 

[moghul]

Many players have won one world cup for their countries, Amir already has two, and guess what------- he is not done yet.

 

[ManFan]

Yes yes and Imran Khan is not a good all-rounder and the West Indies team of today are of the same level as of the 80's.

 

[Enigma_]

Some people are made for the biggest stage. He's one of them.

 

[Abdullah719]

Which is why Amir should have fun in the first team without any performance because he will perform in a final...

2009 Wt20 is quite a far stretch 4 overs for 30 runs and 1 wicket is hardly amazing, it was Razzaq who destroyed the Srilankan lineup but ofcourse whatever suits the narrative

The one Amir got out? Dilshan.

The highest run-scorer in the tournament? Dilshan.

Highest individual score in the tournament? Dilshan.

Most fifties in the tournament? Dilshan.

Most fours in the tournament? Dilshan.

I hope you get the point...

 

[hafizexpress]

He's a world class player, in American sports people only care if you win rings (championships), so Amir with 2 world titles would be rated higher here than Dale Steyn, James Anderson and Tim Southee.

Just like Steph Curry

 

[Muhammad10]

Which is why Amir should have fun in the first team without any performance because he will perform in a final...

2009 Wt20 is quite a far stretch 4 overs for 30 runs and 1 wicket is hardly amazing, it was Razzaq who destroyed the Srilankan lineup but ofcourse whatever suits the narrative

He bowled well when everyone else got clobbered in the first game against India.

He played a vital role in ensuring we overcame a tough situation to defeat Sri Lanka and reach the semi-finals.
Add his spectacular, match-winning display in the final to that, and you have a pretty impressive CT17 record on your hands.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Which is why Amir should have fun in the first team without any performance because he will perform in a final...

2009 Wt20 is quite a far stretch 4 overs for 30 runs and 1 wicket is hardly amazing, it was Razzaq who destroyed the Srilankan lineup but ofcourse whatever suits the narrative

I think you missed Dilshan's batting in that tournament, specially in the semi final.

Aamir really frustrated him with his intelligent bowling and eventually got him out.

 

[Khwaja]

Imagine if Aamer played 2010 onwards... would be much better team

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

The kind of life he has had this kind of pressure should be a cake walk for him .Maybe all Pakistan players should do a stint in the big house to get mentally tougher )

 

[Aman]

Amir the bowler > Kohli the batsmen.

Amir made Kohli look like a fool in the Final

 

[waleed88]

The one Amir got out? Dilshan.

The highest run-scorer in the tournament? Dilshan.

Highest individual score in the tournament? Dilshan.

Most fifties in the tournament? Dilshan.

Most fours in the tournament? Dilshan.

I hope you get the point...

Yes Yes I know what Dilshan did that tournament, it doesn't negate the fact that Dilshan was trying to go after the weak link of the attack because the others were superior to him that time as bowlers, Saeed Ajmal, Umar Gul, Afridi were alll superior bowlers and they found an avenue in Amir to go after..

Amir wasn't great that tournament, miserly but not that effective from what I remember, he was taken apart by KP in the first game... it was the tournament Gul and Afridi were on top, what Razzaq did as a bowler was much bigger than what Amir did...

I like how stats from 10 years ago are brought to make Amir look like a match winner, it was hardly by any means a match winning spell like this one.. so its one tournament final as far as I can remember, the only tournament final he has played since 2009 WC

 

[waleed88]

I think you missed Dilshan's batting in that tournament, specially in the semi final.

Aamir really frustrated him with his intelligent bowling and eventually got him out.

It was only one over, hardly a big sample size, you gotta look at the big picture, Amir was support staff to Gul Afridi and Ajmal... I know you look like to increase his stature into something infinitely amazing, but that was an ordinary spell of bowling..

 

[waleed88]

He bowled well when everyone else got clobbered in the first game against India.

He played a vital role in ensuring we overcame a tough situation to defeat Sri Lanka and reach the semi-finals.
Add his spectacular, match-winning display in the final to that, and you have a pretty impressive CT17 record on your hands.

28 runs and 5 wickets... in 4 games.. hardly spectacular if you ask me

if it weren't for Hasan Ali, we won't be anywhere near the final let alone smell it... Amir's name comes well after Fakhar Zaman and Junaid Khan

 

[waleed88]

He bowled well when everyone else got clobbered in the first game against India.

He played a vital role in ensuring we overcame a tough situation to defeat Sri Lanka and reach the semi-finals.
Add his spectacular, match-winning display in the final to that, and you have a pretty impressive CT17 record on your hands.

Same game where he hobbled off injured because he was getting the treatment from Kohli Yuvraj?

 

[Macho Mann]

to deliver in the final is not the same as delivering upto the final, amir played final brilliantly, but what about his other matches which led the team to the final?

amir had no role in either of them, was struggling with only two wickets

final was only one game if pak had not won final, it would have still gotten second position

not to mention fakhar and hafeez who put mammoth total to defend in the first place so tht bowlers could get relaxed

 

[waleed88]

A tournament final where Razzaq gets greats of the modern era Jayawardene and Sanath Jayasuria, and then gets another wicket of Jehan Mubarak...

Does Amir's wicket carry more weightage? No.. I don't think so..

 

[Suleiman]

I know this is for finals only, but don't forget his batting vs SL.

Easily his 2nd best performance of the tournament. Outbatted Sarfraz who needed 2 drop catches to see the team through. Chanceless innings and really held his nerve.

Might not be what he was before but am glad he has clutch gene in him to come good when needed. Haters will find excuses.

 

[Pakhs]

He did a great job in CT but I dont think he was under that much pressure to deliver as PAK won without him in the Semi. His performance in 2009 was good but not great! I wouldnt say he necessarily delivered in 2009! I do rate him very highly though.

 

[TalhaSyed]

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Often the pressure of a high profile final never mind one against India can lead to players crumbling, but in the case of Amir he has delivered not once but twice! for his country, it is simply outstanding!

A champion player who delivers during those key moments in the end it's what matters more then anything else in the end rather then superficial greatness based on inferior opposition and favourable condition. He stood up when it counted, it's not easy to bowl on modern pitches and he was among a very small number bowlers who managed to get the ball to deviate during the Champions Trophy.

Amir is the leader of our pace bowling attack - there is no two ways about it.

Hasan was amazing during the CT and Junaid also showed promise.

However, Amir is the senior bowler and is/should be the one leading the attack.

Since he is the leader of the attack, we need him to step up in key crunch moments, and he fight back when the team really needs it.

The T20 WC Final and the recent CT Final are very good examples of that. However, a nother good example was in the T20 Asia Cup VS India in Bangladesh, when we got bundled out for 84, it was a big game against the arch rivals and the guy came out all guns blazing.

 

[90MPH]

Yes Yes I know what Dilshan did that tournament, it doesn't negate the fact that Dilshan was trying to go after the weak link of the attack because the others were superior to him that time as bowlers, Saeed Ajmal, Umar Gul, Afridi were alll superior bowlers and they found an avenue in Amir to go after..

Amir wasn't great that tournament, miserly but not that effective from what I remember, he was taken apart by KP in the first game... it was the tournament Gul and Afridi were on top, what Razzaq did as a bowler was much bigger than what Amir did...

I like how stats from 10 years ago are brought to make Amir look like a match winner, it was hardly by any means a match winning spell like this one.. so its one tournament final as far as I can remember, the only tournament final he has played since 2009 WC

It was his debut, yes or no ??

Considering his age as well he was atstounding.

Honestly you need to rid of that rock on your shoulder. Getting tiresome now and obvious your hatred has no bounds.

 

[last_knight]

Most decorated Pakistani Player.

Who else was with him in 2009 ? Shoaib Malik was part of the Squad. Was Hafeez there ? Or Sarfaraz ?