Mohammad Amir's debut on home soil!

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mohammad Amir:<br>1st international match in Pakistan<br>3066 days since his international debut<br>2nd ball, a wicket<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakvSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakvSL</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/924652268720410626?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Saj]

Incredible really isn't it that he's not played an international match in Pakistan before today.

Looks fired up, fit and really up for this match.

 

[MenInG]

Must be an emotional time for him - almost a final act of redemption.

 

[bujhee kom]

He is a quality bowler. A bit weak physically hence his bad test returns but he has every gift.

 

[MenInG]

4 wickets! what a debut in Pakistan.

 

[Pakpak]

He is a quality bowler. A bit weak physically hence his bad test returns but he has every gift.

Also the management's fault, playing him in so many pointless matches. Watch when Hasan gets injured too. T20 should be for experiments, I don't know why they play the full team everytime.

 

[IAJ]

Wonderful home debut. Had be bowled a couple of yorkers in the end, he could have got a 5-for.

 

[aloo paratha]

Great performance, if he bowled with all his heart all the time we wouldn't have anything to complain about.

 

[pakistani pride]

Looked in business today from the word go.
Really can turn it on...

 

[Madplayer]

Tremendous comeback. Looked like the frontline hostile fast bowler like he is supposed to be.

 

[Sirris]

Nice tweet.

Saj knows how to properly hype up a situation.

 

[darksher]

Best bowler we currently have by a country mile, even though Hassan is ranked No. 1 in ODIs and deservedly so but he can't match the class, talent and bowling expertise of Amir. He just needs to find a way to replicate this performance on consistent basis instead of reserving his best for big occasions. One could clearly see his rejuvenated body language and passion today given that it was his first international game in Pakistan, something that is usually missing in most of the games played in UAE.

 

[shaz619]

Good for him, must have been a great feeling

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Just needed some competition.

 

[cricfan967]

It feels like hes entirely capable of producing breathtaking performances when he wants to, but it is not very often he's pumped up to do so.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Best bowler we currently have by a country mile, even though Hassan is ranked No. 1 in ODIs and deservedly so but he can't match the class, talent and bowling expertise of Amir. He just needs to find a way to replicate this performance on consistent basis instead of reserving his best for big occasions. One could clearly see his rejuvenated body language and passion today given that it was his first international game in Pakistan, something that is usually missing in most of the games played in UAE.

Meaningless words.

 

[PennOne]

He is the best Pak bowler when he is pumped up . The problem is he is too relaxed when he is not pumped up. Almost like he is playing within himself to conserve and elongate his shortened career

 

[Haz95]

I've said it before, regardless of whether he's doing good or not but a full throttle Amir is the most dangerous bowler in Pakistan. Yes, ahead of Hasan Ali too. Now whether he's feeling it or not is a completely differen question, today he was fired up due to home ground am assuming.

 

[Markhor]

Amir needs to be fired up for the occasion.

Seems to go through the motions for the routine games, but when he's motivated (WT20 Final in 09, CT Final) he tends to deliver.

Look forward to see what he and the other seamers do in New Zealand.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great bowling from Mohammad Amir today. Looked back to his best. 4-13 his best bowling figures in T20Is <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakvSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakvSL</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/924675762078306304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Hasan123]

He was pumped up today. I hope be bowls with this intensity more often.

 

[ExpressPacer]

What was his pace?

 

[hadi123]

He's incredible when he's at his best. Why can't he replicate this though? He was bowling this good every match before his ban.

 

[pakistani pride]

It feels like hes entirely capable of producing breathtaking performances when he wants to, but it is not very often he's pumped up to do so.

He doesnt like JAMODIS.

 

[Hamza_]

5 years would have decreased his focus and passion from the game which lead to decreased stamina.

Back in 2010 he was more natural, passionate and fluent

 

[Saj]

Interesting to hear the commentators saying that Shinwari's performances seemed to have motivated Amir.

 

[waleed88]

Amir fans celebrating his performances in a dead rubber...

 

[kingusama92]

Amir fans celebrating his performances in a dead rubber...

Just like the CT final.

 

[waleed88]

Just like the CT final.

Just like his empty wicket columns in Test Matches brought us so much pleasure. All important matches but Amir was nowhere to be seen, if he bowled like this in Aus and NZ we wouldn't be looking at straight white washes. Wahab Imran and Sohail outperformed him.
Amir is slowly becoming the new Shahid Afridi, 'ohhh he perfomed in a solitary t20 in front of home crowd. wowww, oh he won us the t20 world cup 2009 single handedly...' what a joke man you guys have zero self respect

 

[waleed88]

Saw some tweets on twitter, apparently alot of people had to post that this was Amir's first home International match in 9 years, conveniently forgetting he choose to opt out of the World XI tour himself and as if it was some real tragedy which led him to miss cricket from 2010 to 2015.

We should make a thread now for all those names who's first home game this was since they were born

 

[Abdullah719]

Saw some tweets on twitter, apparently alot of people had to post that this was Amir's first home International match in 9 years, conveniently forgetting he choose to opt out of the World XI tour himself and as if it was some real tragedy which led him to miss cricket from 2010 to 2015.

We should make a thread now for all those names who's first home game this was since they were born

Yeah he should have played the World XI match and missed the birth of his child.

Who said anything about a tragedy? It's just factual. He started playing for Pakistan in 2009 and he's playing his first match in Pakistan today.

 

[Railu Katta]

Great performance from the champ bowler. As expected [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is not here but he was passionately defending pandya in the other thread [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] [MENTION=135196]waleed88[/MENTION]

 

[waleed88]

Yeah he should have played the World XI match and missed the birth of his child.

Who said anything about a tragedy? It's just factual. He started playing for Pakistan in 2009 and he's playing his first match in Pakistan today.

I saw alot of pity in those twitter posts.... alot of 'haye bechara' playing on home soil after so long...

 

[backfootpunch]

Saw some tweets on twitter, apparently alot of people had to post that this was Amir's first home International match in 9 years, conveniently forgetting he choose to opt out of the World XI tour himself and as if it was some real tragedy which led him to miss cricket from 2010 to 2015.

We should make a thread now for all those names who's first home game this was since they were born

this is just pure drivel - can't be taken seriously with posts like this. But I can only guess this frustration your venting roots from seeing his return to cricket after his ban just so everyone on here is clear...

 

[Sirris]

Interesting to hear the commentators saying that Shinwari's performances seemed to have motivated Amir.

Such is the beautiful circle of life.

Shinwari was supposed to be motivated by Amir's performance and in return Amir is now probably motivated by Shinwari's performance.

 

[waleed88]

this is just pure drivel - can't be taken seriously with posts like this. But I can only guess this frustration your venting roots from seeing his return to cricket after his ban just so everyone on here is clear...

I missed the part about jumping to conclusions...

 

[The_Odd_One]

Motivated Aamir is one of the most dangerous bowlers in the world.

 

[kingusama92]

Just like his empty wicket columns in Test Matches brought us so much pleasure. All important matches but Amir was nowhere to be seen, if he bowled like this in Aus and NZ we wouldn't be looking at straight white washes. Wahab Imran and Sohail outperformed him.
Amir is slowly becoming the new Shahid Afridi, 'ohhh he perfomed in a solitary t20 in front of home crowd. wowww, oh he won us the t20 world cup 2009 single handedly...' what a joke man you guys have zero self respect

If he didn't perform today, you'd say "Look he can't even perform in a dead rubber."

As a rather not so great man once said, "you guys have zero self respect."

 

[fawad_wellwisher]

This was a very important game for all Pakistani players and everyone wanted to do well in front of the home crowd. Amir brings out his best in all important games.

 

[mak36]

Looked pumped up. Competition has done him some good.

 

[waleed88]

If he didn't perform today, you'd say "Look he can't even perform in a dead rubber."

As a rather not so great man once said, "you guys have zero self respect."

Why would I be surprised about mediocrity everytime?

 

[Rafa]

I think it also had to do something with the rich quality of SL batting line up.

 

[another drop catch]

Best bowler in the world

 

[Xoib]

he had figures of 1-164 in the test series and was one of the main reasons we lost the test series also decided to play 2nd test even though was half fit just to save his spot which shows he is selfish.

Amir has been the biggest disappointment of the past 18 months his stas has been mediocre and no amount of useless jam odis wickets can overcome the pain of test series losses where he has had a big role to play..

 

[wrongun]

Tremendous comeback. Looked like the frontline hostile fast bowler like he is supposed to be.

Yes. Should bowl his first spell in Tests at full tilt like that- then worry about adjusting to the pitch or scaling back for 4 spells or powering on as the situation demands later on.

 

[Xoib]

there are 6 months to our next test series either he should go on Shan Massod style training program to ensure he has fitness to operate at full tilt in test cricket or limit his involvement to odi's and 20-20 like Malinga did.

His current fitness makes him a liability for test cricket.

 

[Xoib]

Shoaib Akhtar was never fir for test cricket but he always went and give full go it did result in some games where he was unable to finish but there were also games where he was able to make an impact even while he lasted just half the game.

 

[Mamoon]

Great performance from the champ bowler. As expected [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] is not here but he was passionately defending pandya in the other thread [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] [MENTION=135196]waleed88[/MENTION]

There is nothing to look into here. It is an established fact that Amir only performs when he wants, and he is not the type of player will give his best every single game.

It was a big occasion for him - he was rubbish in the Tests, he missed the ODIs, and it was his first match in Pakistan. It would have been more surprising had he has not performed.

 

[Xoib]

There is nothing to look into here. It is an established fact that Amir only performs when he wants, and he is not the type of player will give his best every single game.

It was a big occasion for him - he was rubbish in the Tests, he missed the ODIs, and it was his first match in Pakistan. It would have been more surprising had he has not performed.

he is not fit enough to go full tilt in a test match he is a total liability for that format.

 

[todfod 11]

There is nothing to look into here. It is an established fact that Amir only performs when he wants, and he is not the type of player will give his best every single game.

It was a big occasion for him - he was rubbish in the Tests, he missed the ODIs, and it was his first match in Pakistan. It would have been more surprising had he has not performed.

he was not rubbish but wasnt fit in the test. Management should have known about this. Every great player perform when it matter so why shouldnt he?? Save your best for the big day and anyways on smaller context matches other are performing well. Pakistan is winning that is what matters.
And every one in here very well know that cometh the big occasio n and most performers goes missing.

 

[Xoib]

he was not rubbish but wasnt fit in the test. Management should have known about this. Every great player perform when it matter so why shouldnt he?? Save your best for the big day and anyways on smaller context matches other are performing well. Pakistan is winning that is what matters.
And every one in here very well know that cometh the big occasio n and most performers goes missing.

he hid his injury to save his place the man is selfish to the core and the sooner he is dropped the better otherwise we will have a new Afridi who performs once in a blue moon

 

[todfod 11]

he hid his injury to save his place the man is selfish to the core and the sooner he is dropped the better otherwise we will have a new Afridi who performs once in a blue moon

If the selfish Man wins pakistan team global tourneys like CT.. I m happy to have 11 afridis over team man younis..

 

[Xoib]

If the selfish Man wins pakistan team global tourneys like CT.. I m happy to have 11 afridis over team man younis..

then keep enjoying test white washes as your boy wonder is incapable of handling the responsibility of being a leader of the attack got outperformed by Suranga Lakmal for heavens sake.

 

[wrongun]

he was not rubbish but wasnt fit in the test. Management should have known about this. Every great player perform when it matter so why shouldnt he?? Save your best for the big day and anyways on smaller context matches other are performing well. Pakistan is winning that is what matters.
And every one in here very well know that cometh the big occasio n and most performers goes missing.

I'm not sure the facts here- did he indeed hide it, or did management know and consult and often fast bowlers & physio's etc accept that they can't play every game 100% and have to push through niggles. Sometimes as a group they make the wrong call on how much they think a minor injury will impact performance.

Many Oz fast bowlers are on record saying they played through pain or with strains- with management fully knowing- just because otherwise a fast bowler would hardly get on the park if they demanded 100% fitness with no aches or pains or niggles every test.

 

[todfod 11]

then keep enjoying test white washes as your boy wonder is incapable of handling the responsibility of being a leader of the attack got outperformed by Suranga Lakmal for heavens sake.

The boy wonder handle his responsibility well if he underperformed then why the bowlers couldnt step up?? Pakistan lost first test because of sarafaraz and mickeys foolishness whivh he did admit later. Amir was not fully fit go watch the video he was limping back to his run up.
People like you just watch the result but never watches the cricket in real.

 

[Saj]

Is there a motivation issue in that he performs for the big matches but that same level of motivation isn't there all the time?

 

[Usman Chadda]

Don't think Amir himself believes he is fit enough for test cricket. Stark difference between his performance levels in LOI formats. Still remains a gun bowler.

I see the nay-sayers are back in full force after the hammering they took after the CT final.

 

[Sherlock]

Saw some tweets on twitter, apparently alot of people had to post that this was Amir's first home International match in 9 years, conveniently forgetting he choose to opt out of the World XI tour himself and as if it was some real tragedy which led him to miss cricket from 2010 to 2015.

We should make a thread now for all those names who's first home game this was since they were born

His wife was given birth, mate. At least get the facts correct.

 

[Anis10]

I would rather have someone that performs on the big occasions then someone who does well against a poor team in an meaningless match.

Yes Amir should give it all in every match he plays but it’s easier said then done, its is going to take time for him to get to where he was before especially in the test arena, but whenever in the big moments we needed him, he rose up to the challenge.

 

[Mamoon]

he was not rubbish but wasnt fit in the test. Management should have known about this. Every great player perform when it matter so why shouldnt he?? Save your best for the big day and anyways on smaller context matches other are performing well. Pakistan is winning that is what matters.
And every one in here very well know that cometh the big occasio n and most performers goes missing.

He has been consistently poor in Test cricket since his return, so the fitness excuse doesn't fly. If he is not fit enough for Test cricket than he should improve his fitness. He has been back for nearly 2 years now, which is more than enough time to get fit for red ball cricket.

Also, he didn't win us the CT. If it wasn't for Hasan, he would have been on the plane back home in the group stages, because he went wicket-less in the must-win match vs South Africa. He did play an important role vs Sri Lanka, but prior to the final, his overall contribution was insignificant compared to a quiet a few players.

Pakistan would have defended the total against India with or without Amir. Most teams would defend such a huge score in a final 9/10 times.

 

[todfod 11]

He has been consistently poor in Test cricket since his return, so the fitness excuse doesn't fly. If he is not fit enough for Test cricket than he should improve his fitness. He has been back for nearly 2 years now, which is more than enough time to get fit for red ball cricket.

Also, he didn't win us the CT. If it wasn't for Hasan, he would have been on the plane back home in the group stages, because he went wicket-less in the must-win match vs South Africa. He did play an important role vs Sri Lanka, but prior to the final, his overall contribution was insignificant compared to a quiet a few players.

Pakistan would have defended the total against India with or without Amir. Most teams would defend such a huge score in a final 9/10 times.

Contradicting to your own words once again. In your last post you said he performs only when he wants and now you saying he is poor/not good enough bowler.
I mean when he performs on his will how come he is a poor bowler? Be cause if a bowler wins you match when he really wants to he has to be a genious of a bowler.
For CT Amir won the match against Sri Lanka by his batting and it was a must win game a must must win game. In the final he spell is considered as great as wasim spell in 92 may be you are pure hater thats why you dont realise and may you shuts urself down whenever the media the ex players from india pakistan everywhere is praising him.
Still there is no bowler who has figured out Kohli yet specially on a batting wicket Amir got him twice in two balls. No wonder the king himself called him the toughest bowler in world cricket You are nothing infront of the opinion of the great Kohli.
Obviously I as his fan can see that he didnt perform upto the expectation and I am way more disappointed then you are but still you cant discard him for not performing in one test series. when 99 percent of people was of a view that it would be walk in the park for pakistan

 

[Mamoon]

Contradicting to your own words once again. In your last post you said he performs only when he wants and now you saying he is poor/not good enough bowler.

That holds true for ODIs and T20s. Amir has always been a good white ball bowler, but he has always been a mediocre Test bowler barring one tour in extremely friendly conditions in England in 2010, which skewed people's expectations. He has always struggled in Test cricket on flat tracks.

I mean when he performs on his will how come he is a poor bowler? Be cause if a bowler wins you match when he really wants to he has to be a genious of a bowler.

No one has called him a poor bowler. He is mediocre in Tests but he is good in LOIs, but the problem is that he struggles to maintain his intensity. He can potentially be lethal if improves his work ethic and commitment. He seems one of the players who find it hard to get motivated.

Azhar Mahmood, the bowling coach, stated after the CT final that Amir had been operating at a 70% level and did not seem to be giving his full effort. That is quite damning and says a lot about his attitude.

For CT Amir won the match against Sri Lanka by his batting and it was a must win game a must must win game. In the final he spell is considered as great as wasim spell in 92 may be you are pure hater thats why you dont realise and may you shuts urself down whenever the media the ex players from india pakistan everywhere is praising him.

I am not a hater but Amir's fans need to grow a thicker skin. His spell in the final was great, but needs to put in more effort game in game out. If he can't do that because of his fitness, then perhaps he should quit Test cricket, because he is more useful in the shorter formats.

The Indian media is praising him because he has performed well against them twice now, and the Pakistani media are praising him because he helped us win the CT final, but I am not concerned with how the media views him because they have missed the numerous games in between where Amir seems to lack effort and desire. For every good performance, he produces 5-6 mediocre ones and you can see that he is not putting in his full effort. It was embarrassing to see him bowl at the pace of the trundler Abbas against SL in the Tests.

Still there is no bowler who has figured out Kohli yet specially on a batting wicket Amir got him twice in two balls. No wonder the king himself called him the toughest bowler in world cricket You are nothing infront of the opinion of the great Kohli.
Obviously I as his fan can see that he didnt perform upto the expectation and I am way more disappointed then you are but still you cant discard him for not performing in one test series. when 99 percent of people was of a view that it would be walk in the park for pakistan

Firstly, you seem more than just a fan because you are not capable of rational thinking and start clamping your teeth whenever Amir is rightfully criticized. Amir can trouble Kohli as much as he likes, but there is cricket beyond Kohli and beyond India. We hardly play India once or twice a year, and if Amir is only going to show up for those two games then it is not good enough.

Also, it is not about one Test series. What part of it do you not understand? He has been consistently poor in Test cricket since his return, barring one spell against an average West Indies lineup.

 

[todfod 11]

That holds true for ODIs and T20s. Amir has always been a good white ball bowler, but he has always been a mediocre Test bowler barring one tour in extremely friendly conditions in England in 2010, which skewed people's expectations. He has always struggled in Test cricket on flat tracks.



No one has called him a poor bowler. He is mediocre in Tests but he is good in LOIs, but the problem is that he struggles to maintain his intensity. He can potentially be lethal if improves his work ethic and commitment. He seems one of the players who find it hard to get motivated.

Azhar Mahmood, the bowling coach, stated after the CT final that Amir had been operating at a 70% level and did not seem to be giving his full effort. That is quite damning and says a lot about his attitude.



I am not a hater but Amir's fans need to grow a thicker skin. His spell in the final was great, but needs to put in more effort game in game out. If he can't do that because of his fitness, then perhaps he should quit Test cricket, because he is more useful in the shorter formats.

The Indian media is praising him because he has performed well against them twice now, and the Pakistani media are praising him because he helped us win the CT final, but I am not concerned with how the media views him because they have missed the numerous games in between where Amir seems to lack effort and desire. For every good performance, he produces 5-6 mediocre ones and you can see that he is not putting in his full effort. It was embarrassing to see him bowl at the pace of the trundler Abbas against SL in the Tests.



Firstly, you seem more than just a fan because you are not capable of rational thinking and start clamping your teeth whenever Amir is rightfully criticized. Amir can trouble Kohli as much as he likes, but there is cricket beyond Kohli and beyond India. We hardly play India once or twice a year, and if Amir is only going to show up for those two games then it is not good enough.

Also, it is not about one Test series. What part of it do you not understand? He has been consistently poor in Test cricket since his return, barring one spell against an average West Indies lineup.

The conclusion is simple here may be he doesnt wanna play test cricket in order to prolong his career. if this is really the case I m very disapointed but on the other hand he pakistan just play him in important test series avainst tougher teams it does makes sense. Playing Amir in every single game is not a good strategy. May be some one should stand up within the management and understand his point a view as well. Playing him against sri lanka was a poor decision especially when you have so many bowlers in the waiting.
Pakistan is lucky to have so many bowlers as bench strength but still skill wise Amir is way ahead.

 

[yasir]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] home coming debut of Amir made one thing clear, Amir is the heart beat of Pakistani fans. I can bet you if Amir debuts in IPL, he will get roaring reception and fans will be equally made...

Was Amir insecure or PCB had business reasons or both?

Maybe these were the exact reasons why PCB was hell bent to play Amir in test, despite he was not 100% fit for test Cricket last summer. From Pakistan perspective, whole excitement about England tour was return of Amir, although it did not pan out as we expected, but who knows if those catches has been taken specially early in the series, 60% of those expectations were met...

Largely I agree to the point that Amir should not play test cricket until he is fully fit. But I feel Amir was insecure about his place and PCB was reluctant of not playing their premium bowler on foreign tours, business commitments get into serious trouble if you pull out main bowler in test team. Auses were mad at below par performance, if you pull out bowlers, they would have seriously question Pakistan's commitment to their tour, they had issues with 40+ middle order on bouncy pitches, already

You could also see from CT, how much English press and fans wanted to see Amir in the squad. He bowls better than Strac in English conditions most of the times, how could Pakistan just drop him...With these performances their will be pressure to not land without Amir next year

Keep in mind, there is a reason PCB don't wanted to have Asif, not selected for any tournament televised, even than he run havoc in QAT final last year. Imagine if he had played in PSL, how much pressure would be to play him in test??

Reality is talent and skill wise we still don't have a single bowler who come close to Asif and Amir. For a fast bowling mad nation, its hard to skip both of them...Plus, don't forget Misbah and Azhar wanted to have Amir in test/ODI/T20 almost every match, they were insecure about their Captaincy too...Even now, I doubt Sarfraz would be happy to face big boys without Amir...

Times have change, premium bowler cannot play with full tilt all the time


In all those series Amir started well, but could not keep up, you could clearly see issues with fitness. Lets face it Amir is not as fit as Wahab or Sami were, he may never be as fit as them. Beside, how many bowlers can keep up with their intensity in all matches, specially test? - Strac plays season and a half with full force than gets injured for a season, Pat Cummins, Patty have same issues... Bowlers who bowl at 130 in test does not count, trundling at that speed is a whole different category...Lets see if Strac can play full Ashes

Plus, current International schedule is very demanding, not to mention leagues, Strac gave up million and half of IPL contract to play useless tests in India, he got injured any way and AUS were no match, so what was point of his sacrifices? - He has only 3/4 such seasons anyway, why he should not use his talent to benefit him first and foremost, these fans are not going to support him financially later in the life...

I doubt if Wasim/Waqar/Imran or even WIs greats would have being able to play test cricket with same intensity along with everything else...In those days test cricket was premium and most money making avenue for players, maybe it still is for AUS/ENG in the form of Ashes, but for Pakistan playing test cricket in UAE is pretty useless exercise, with heat and weather its 150% more demanding than it was back in 80s/90s in Pakistan. I had never seen they played test in June/July when temperatures were 40-45C in Pakistan, season was in winter and half of the tests were in North, so you get a breather, in UAE, its so hot even in Sep/Oct/Nov, how you can put effort... I bet you if we continue to play Hasan (or another 140+ bowler) in every test(imagine 830 overs in a season, they will break down too...There is not enough time to recover...

 

[yasir]

^ I forget another important point:

Playing 4 instead of 5 bowlers


One of the cardinal sin of Misbah's era was playing 4 bowler, relentlessly. He has run down Ajmal, Ajmal had to bowl so many overs that bending got worse with time Now Yasir has been handed over job of donkey work...Pakistan has failed to develop allrounder because top 6 are seniors and well settled, they are just running over bowlers one after another, intensity is impossible on low and slow wickets, we take 120 overs to get any team out...These batsmen cannot stand on day 5(lost 7 matches in 2 years), then what's the point having an extra one?? - Its better to develop Shadab/Fahim type of allrounder and bring balance to the team, have more aggressive bowling attach, rather than using bowlers as work horse...

Right now Pakistani bowlers are bowling 15 over worth of energy in 10 overs of ODIs, where as in test its reversed, because they know they have to bowl day and a half...Its criminal to play 4 bowlers (that too only one spinner) in 40-45C heat in a desert :

We cannot build a bowling unit with this strategy, I was hoping for an end to Misbah era in test too, but its here to stay unfortunately

 

[Saj]

Don't think Amir himself believes he is fit enough for test cricket. Stark difference between his performance levels in LOI formats. Still remains a gun bowler.

I see the nay-sayers are back in full force after the hammering they took after the CT final.

Interesting and a valid point.

5 day matches in UAE are a killer for pace bowlers and perhaps he feels that he isn't fit enough for Test cricket there.

 

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Interesting and a valid point.

5 day matches in UAE are a killer for pace bowlers and perhaps he feels that he isn't fit enough for Test cricket there.

Why doesnt the management step in and tell him? It could be that he feels insecure and doesnt want to say it incase he is dropped from other teams also