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The Selection Committee headed by Inzamam-ul-Haq today received a request from Pakistan team Management comprising Coach Mickey Arthur and Captain Azhar Ali for sending Mohammad Hafeez to Australia for the ODI series. The Selection Committee has decided to accept the request of the team management and Chairman PCB has approved the same. Hafeez will join the team shortly as the 16th member in Australia.
 
How effective is his bowling with the new action ?
 
Is he going to play as an A/R down the order?

If not, then he should prepare for humiliation and Starc will eat him alive.
 
Arham_PakFan said:
Oh no!
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Blessing in disguise

it is good to have him in this tough tour so we can see his future in the team rather than select him for

easy tour like west indies .this will either make or break for him unless he get injured after 3rd odi and run

away like england odi series
 
If he is going to be in the playing 11

He has to bat at no. 8(And bowl at least 8 overs)

6.Akmal
7.Imad
8.Hafeez
 
Hafeez is an upgrade on Nawaz, only if he plays in Nawaz's position.

If he plays any higher then he is a detriment to the team's already minuscule chances.
 
He is likely to play at #6 instead of Rizwan in my opinion.

Sharjeel
Azhar
Babar
Malik
Sarfraz
Hafeez
Nawaz
Imad
Aamir
Hasan
Wahab
 
Good decision.

Should've played tests too.

I have no idea why we're playing nothing cricketers like Nawaz who offer nothing.

Imad will be carted around like nobody else too.
 
Nothing new, almost expected; in fact I believe MoHa will lead PAK in future - he is the national treasure of PAK cricket. He has 6/7 years of PAK career left still - somehow if he can keep standing on his knees around 2021, Shahriar will make him Captain for 2023 WC.
 
He must play in the lower order . Sharjeel and Babar need to be given a full series. I'm afraid they might drop Babar for Hafeez.

1 Sharjeel.
2 Azhar.
3 Babar.
4 Malik.
5 Sarfaraz.
6 Rizwan.
7 Hafeez.
8 Imad.
9 Hassan.
10 Amir.
11 Wahab.
 
He played well in Domestic Odi tournament unlike Hamad Azam/Aamer Yamir/Amad Butt.
I AM AGAINST HIS SELECTION, but based on current situation, we dont have other option.
1. Sharjeel
2. Azhar
3. Babar
4. Malik/Hafeez
5. Hafeez/Malik
6. Sarfraz
7. Akmal/Rizwan
8. Imad
9. Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Wahab Riaz
 
MMHS said:
Nothing new, almost expected; in fact I believe MoHa will lead PAK in future - he is the national treasure of PAK cricket. He has 6/7 years of PAK career left still - somehow if he can keep standing on his knees around 2021, Shahriar will make him Captain for 2023 WC.
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Hafeezs replacements are Nawaz and Imad. Both are not even remotely near in quality. Then theres Saad Nasim. :)))

And Hafeez himself isn't world class. No substitutes sadly.
 
MMHS said:
Nothing new, almost expected; in fact I believe MoHa will lead PAK in future - he is the national treasure of PAK cricket. He has 6/7 years of PAK career left still - somehow if he can keep standing on his knees around 2021, Shahriar will make him Captain for 2023 WC.
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dont u think its good that he will be exposed there and micky will know his value..
 
Hawkeye said:
Hafeezs replacements are Nawaz and Imad. Both are not even remotely near in quality. Then theres Saad Nasim. :)))

And Hafeez himself isn't world class. No substitutes sadly.
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For team combination, just like picking Nawaz & Imad in playing XI; MoHa & Malik in same squad is PCB special.

MoHa was never anything outside Asia, now at official 36, he is not even remotely close to Imad & after change in action, any given day I'll pick Nawaz as spinner. However, when Azhar, Asad & Sarfu are mentioned as youngster, than MoHa must be entering in to his hay day; therefore it makes sense.

My understanding was, PAK should build a team that can fight for a SF spot in 2019, in early UK summer - sadly MoHa as all-rounder doesn't offer more than our Sohag Gazi in those conditions - 29 months later, he'll become Mahmudullah with ball & Miraz with bat.
 
Brilliance said:
He must play in the lower order . Sharjeel and Babar need to be given a full series. I'm afraid they might drop Babar for Hafeez.
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That would be an incredibly dumb move since Babar has three centuries in his last three ODIs
 
Donal Cozzie said:
On flat decks in limited overs cricket he might not do too badly actually
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Yeah, I think he merits a spot since he's an all rounder again. Better option than Malik and Nawaz etc because he can accelerate when required.
 
saeed5646 said:
Blessing in disguise

it is good to have him in this tough tour so we can see his future in the team rather than select him for

easy tour like west indies .this will either make or break for him unless he get injured after 3rd odi and run

away like england odi series
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I agree, this could be win-win for Pakistan, if he performs, good for Pakistan, and if he does not, he will have to go.
 
Unfathomable so even Inzi has cronies

Imad and Nawaz have done a decent job as all rounders and we are calling back a 37 year old dud I hope he opens against Hazey n Starck
 
If he bats in the top 4 over Babar, Sharjeel or Akmal then I'm done
 
DRsohail said:
dont u think its good that he will be exposed there and micky will know his value..
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Arthur is a top, top, top class professional Coach - he was sacked from CA job, because they needed someone on chopping block after that IND tour & that team was too big to touch any senior; hence home work ...

Now, if Arthur doesn't know the value of MoHa already, then I must be wrong regarding Arthur. He clipped MoHa at first chance from ODI & Test team - only that now PAK has lost 0-3, he has to keep a bit low profile & MoHa managed to sneak in the team from his connections. Had PAK survived the SCG Test, I can bet my reputation in PP - MoHa won't have been there. There is only one change between the day squad was announced & MoHa is recalled - PAK was in the game at SCG & PAK lost the Test at SCG.

I can name 3/4 options who actually makes better choice than 40+ years old offie with remodeled action & a sitting duck against new ball - considering the next 2 (3, if 2018 T20 WC happens) ICC events are in UK & in early summer, therefore availability is not an issue. Even if issue, one has to move on & take chances with new players - otherwise PAK's average age in 2019 WC will reach to 35 officially, 38 unofficially.
 
Ridiculous. ODI team is going to get thrashed with such mindless and nepotistic selections. Wasim Akram is right on the money that "ODI team yaaron doston ki team select hui hai it will get thrashed".

I'm not interested in watching these has beens old tried an detested failures coming back in the team again and again. Imad Wasim is the future for our one day side and here we are going back to a TTF hafeez with history of failure outside of UAE.
 
Not a good move. Hafeez has hardly any batting performances in domestic to speak of since his return after injury. Imad Wasim is already performing for us as an allrounder bat and ball. Nawaz has done alright too (though Nawaz I'd play him in specialist bowling slot).

And of course if we are building for next world cup, don't see Hafeez in the team for that due to his age. I don't see any room for him in the team.

1. Sharjeel
2. Azhar
3. Babar
4. Umar
5. Sarfraz
6. Malik
7. Imad

That'd be my top 7.
 
Instead of going back to a 36 year old why not pick a rookie and give him a chance? Can people seriously see Hafeez making it to the WC in England in 2019?
 
Dont know what team managment thinking.
What he ll offer different than Malik,Imad,Nawaz (he is in squad, rite?)
U already have 3 same kind of players in squad and u want another one?
 
So XI will be

Sharjeel
Azhar (c)
Babar
Malik
Akmal
Hafeez
Sarfraz
Imad
Riaz
Amir
Irfan

They better not have Hafeez opening and move Babar around just to accommodate him

Hafeez should be at 5/6

Bowling looks weak and that'll be the reason we get whitewashed
 
Could be a potential captaincy candidate if Azhar fails to deliver. Will he bat at 3 though in Babar's place?
 
Statsman said:
Could be a potential captaincy candidate if Azhar fails to deliver. Will he bat at 3 though in Babar's place?
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I don't think Mickey will drop Babar straightaway. He's been fantastic in ODIs. He might play in the lower order as an all-rounder instead.
 
There is no spot for him. Only one open is #6 after Rizwan's failure. But he most likely won't play there. Bad news. Either Sharjeel, Malik or Imad will get dropped. Or Hafeez will replace Nawaz and everybody will move down a spot to accommodate him at #3. :facepalm:
 
Brilliance said:
I don't think Mickey will drop Babar straightaway. He's been fantastic in ODIs. He might play in the lower order as an all-rounder instead.
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Play in the lower order? :facepalm:

If Babar is demoted from 3 in this series then we may as well call Misbah and Younis out of retirement as well.
 
If he replaces any of: Sharjeel, Azhar, Babar, Sarfraz, Malik, Umar, Imad - it'll be a complete farce.
 
Good decision.


Finally sense prevailed.


Should replace Nawaz in the playing eleven.

I don't bother when he plays in top order or at number 6.
 
Dropping a youngster for a 36 year old hack. Well done PCB the most incompetent board! Who would want to watch this tried and tested failure?? Nobody wants to watch these old faces recycled again and again. This is the reason people are losing interest in cricket. If you can't induct fresh blood then shut down domestic set up. Make a team led by 80 years old shehryar khan 45 year old Misbah and Younis, 60 year old Miandad.
 
Rayyman said:
There is no spot for him. Only one open is #6 after Rizwan's failure. But he most likely won't play there. Bad news. Either Sharjeel, Malik or Imad will get dropped. Or Hafeez will replace Nawaz and everybody will move down a spot to accommodate him at #3. :facepalm:
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back to square one :facepalm:
 
Syed1 said:
Hafeez is an upgrade on Nawaz, only if he plays in Nawaz's position.

If he plays any higher then he is a detriment to the team's already minuscule chances.
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I think Hafeez will replace Sharjeel in playing 11 as an opener.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Play in the lower order? :facepalm:

If Babar is demoted from 3 in this series then we may as well call Misbah and Younis out of retirement as well.
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Babar will stay at 3. Hafeez will go to 4. Malik will reluctantly move down to 5 after all of his hard work in the past couple series. Sarfraz will go down to 6 after doing so well at 5. He will be a misfit at that position. Hafeez disturbs the balance that we attained during the WI series.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Good decision.


Finally sense prevailed.


Should replace Nawaz in the playing eleven.

I don't bother when he plays in top order or at number 6.
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Problem is that Malik always complains about his spot. Sharjeel- our only hitter might get dropped. Sarfraz can't hit down the order. Azam is glued at 3. Hafeez won't bat at 6.
 
Rayyman said:
Babar will stay at 3. Hafeez will go to 4. Malik will reluctantly move down to 5 after all of his hard work in the past couple series. Sarfraz will go down to 6 after doing so well at 5. He will be a misfit at that position. Hafeez disturbs the balance that we attained during the WI series.
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I am prepared for the worst, i.e. Hafeez batting in the top 3.
 
Hafeez should not play any match.Azhar is captain so undroppable for now,Sharjeel is one of our only attacking players,so shouldn't be replaced.Babar has just made 3 consecutive tons in his last 3 ODI's.
 
Brilliance said:
LOL that sentence was for Hafeez. How is Babar an all-rounder?
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Actually Babar used to bowl quite a bit in his u19 days, but leave it to Pakistani team managements to never give confidence to a youngster.
 
Rayyman said:
Problem is that Malik always complains about his spot. Sharjeel- our only hitter might get dropped. Sarfraz can't hit down the order. Azam is glued at 3. Hafeez won't bat at 6.
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Sharjeel is not getting dropped atleast for first two matches.

Hafeez has made Pakistan squad after a while. He won't say No, not at all if he is asked to bat at 6. He will agree immediately.

Our best Odi batsman of last 2 years will be in spotlight. Wait for bouncers barrage now.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Sharjeel is not getting dropped atleast for first two matches.

Hafeez has made Pakistan squad after a while. He won't say No, not at all if he is asked to bat at 6. He will agree immediately.

Our best Odi batsman of last 2 years will be in spotlight. Wait for bouncers barrage now.
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Talent bhai Australia ke ground mein tou top edge bhi chakkay ke liyay nahi jati... best batsman is doomed.
 
One bad news to another,

An insult to domestic cricket and the players performing there.

He will be competing with Imad now for a place in the team, ridiculous.
 
Hafeez in the One-Day Cup (where the likes of Shehzad, Shan, Iftikhar, Awais etc. made hay):

248 runs in 8 matches, average 31, SR 76.8. :14:
 
MMHS said:
Nothing new, almost expected; in fact I believe MoHa will lead PAK in future - he is the national treasure of PAK cricket. He has 6/7 years of PAK career left still - somehow if he can keep standing on his knees around 2021, Shahriar will make him Captain for 2023 WC.
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So did Misbah conspire to get his best friend selected for the ODI's ? that's pretty much your line of thinking for Hafeez's selection in general. Misbah is now retired from ODI's, is not the captain or has input on the ODI selection.
 
shaz619 said:
So did Misbah conspire to get his best friend selected for the ODI's ? that's pretty much your line of thinking for Hafeez's selection in general. Misbah is now retired from ODI's, is not the captain or has input on the ODI selection.
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Apart from Misbah, MoHa has lot many friends ....... one of them can be the current ODI Captain, who kept playing as ODI opener for 2 years against 2 white balls, but wasn't comfortable to open in Test ...... that kept MoHa opening there - would have done so for 3 more years at least, had this guy Aurther not spoiled the party.

I don't make news, neither carry any baggage for any individual - I try to find root cause for a given situation, then cross check my assumptions with probables. No one ever knows what's the fact, but there is something called logic......
 
Abdullah719 said:
Hafeez in the One-Day Cup (where the likes of Shehzad, Shan, Iftikhar, Awais etc. made hay):

248 runs in 8 matches, average 31, SR 76.8. :14:
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He will magically flip a switch and start averaging in the mid forties in international cricket.


# Inzi logic
 
This would be the line up realistically

1.Azhar
2.Sharjeel
3.Babar
4.Hafeez
5.Malik
6.Akmal
7.Sarfraz
8.Imad

Return of Hafeez is unsettling the whole line up

Sarfraz is of no use at 7
Imad should play at least at 7, if not at 6
Nawaz is really unlucky. I am no fan of him, but give sometime to the youngster. Let him develop, rather u are bringing a 37 years old player.

Final point:Malik, Hafeez both are similar type of players.

Why have both

At least with Malik u can have a cushion that he'll be ready to play even at 6

But Hafeez thinks he's t next coming of kohli to bat at 3
 
MMHS said:
Apart from Misbah, MoHa has lot many friends ....... one of them can be the current ODI Captain, who kept playing as ODI opener for 2 years against 2 white balls, but wasn't comfortable to open in Test ...... that kept MoHa opening there - would have done so for 3 more years at least, had this guy Aurther not spoiled the party.

I don't make news, neither carry any baggage for any individual - I try to find root cause for a given situation, then cross check my assumptions with probables. No one ever knows what's the fact, but there is something called logic......
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Well, in this instance I don't agree with the logic that Misbah is responsible for Hafeez's selection. With the other stuff, often there is no logic when it comes to something called conspiracy theories....
 
Syed1 said:
Talent bhai Australia ke ground mein tou top edge bhi chakkay ke liyay nahi jati... best batsman is doomed.
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Australian Selectors have picked a very strong squad. Don't see us winning more than 1 or at max 2 matches unless two players out of the playing eleven give their best ever performances. (Indivisual brilliance)


5-0 cannot be ruled out.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Hafeez in the One-Day Cup (where the likes of Shehzad, Shan, Iftikhar, Awais etc. made hay):

248 runs in 8 matches, average 31, SR 76.8. :14:
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Hafeez is picked as an Allrounder. Not as an Opener.

He took 11 wickets most by SNGPL team at an economy rate of 4.58.


He will replace Nawaz in the playing eleven.


Playing 2 left arm spinners Nawaz & Imad made no sense.


Furthermore Hafeez has averaged around 45 with the Bat in Odi's in last 2 years and has most Odi hundreds for Pakistan in last 7 years.


Since age isn't a bar for Malik & Irfan so Hafeez being a bettet allrounder than Nawaz makes the team on merit and as an allrounder He did quite well in last 8 List A matches.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Hafeez is picked as an Allrounder. Not as an Opener.

He took 11 wickets most by SNGPL team at an economy rate of 4.58.


He will replace Nawaz in the playing eleven.


Playing 2 left arm spinners Nawaz & Imad made no sense.


Furthermore Hafeez has averaged around 45 with the Bat in Odi's in last 2 years and has most Odi hundreds for Pakistan in last 7 years.


Since age isn't a bar for Malik & Irfan so Hafeez being a bettet allrounder than Nawaz makes the team on merit and as an allrounder He did quite well in last 8 List A matches.
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My fear is that he will disrupt our batting lineup.

Azhar is captain so he has to stay as an opener.
Sharjeel needs to be persisted with as he's the only game changer.
Babar is coming off a brilliant series vs WI.
Sarfraz has had a great year in 2016 in ODIs in the middle order.
Malik has done pretty well since his comeback.
Umar has barely had a chance since his return so he needs a few games.
Imad has played a part when he's been given the chance.

Where does he fit in this batting line-up? Will he be willing to bat in the lower order?
 
I cant believe Mickey recalled this dud :facepalm:
Instead of Hafeez it should've been Sohail Khan. His cameos would've been more useful lower down the order.
 
Abdullah719 said:
My fear is that he will disrupt our batting lineup.

Azhar is captain so he has to stay as an opener.
Sharjeel needs to be persisted with as he's the only game changer.
Babar is coming off a brilliant series vs WI.
Sarfraz has had a great year in 2016 in ODIs in the middle order.
Malik has done pretty well since his comeback.
Umar has barely had a chance since his return so he needs a few games.
Imad has played a part when he's been given the chance.

Where does he fit in this batting line-up? Will he be willing to bat in the lower order?
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1. Azhar
2. Sharjeel
3. Babar
4. Malik
5. Akmal
6. Sarfraz/Hafeez
7. Hafeez/Sarfraz
8. Imad
9. Amir
10. Hasan
11. Irfan


Hafeez has been out of Pakistan Team for many months now. International Cricket pays 3000 times more than domestic cricket. I don't expect 36 years old Hafeez to say No to Azhar or Mickey while he is picked as an allround. He has made a comeback after playing whole season of FC and List A. I don't see him doing any tantrums. He won't take it as granted. He knows that if he has to play Int Cricket for 1-2 more years than at the Age of 36 he has no choice but to agree to what team management requires of him. Else lose 2-4 Crore Pkr income and rott in domestic cricket.
 
daytrader said:
I cant believe Mickey recalled this dud :facepalm:
Instead of Hafeez it should've been Sohail Khan. His cameos would've been more useful lower down the order.
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Exactly. It's a joke to call Hafeez an all rounder. He's a hack.
 
in odis; batting average of 12.5 in Australia and a batting average of 17.75 vs australia
Pakistan need him in Australia as much as fish needs a bicycle.
 
MMHS said:
Nothing new, almost expected; in fact I believe MoHa will lead PAK in future - he is the national treasure of PAK cricket. He has 6/7 years of PAK career left still - somehow if he can keep standing on his knees around 2021, Shahriar will make him Captain for 2023 WC.
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If Shahryar stays himself that is
 
Hawkeye said:
Good decision.

Should've played tests too.

I have no idea why we're playing nothing cricketers like Nawaz who offer nothing.

Imad will be carted around like nobody else too.
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I agree that he should have played the Tests. He's a diabolical Test batsman, but Pakistan needed an offie against seven left-handers.
 
Surprising decision considering he wasn't in great form in the One-Day cup tournament.
 
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