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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well done to Pakistan on winning the T20 series final against Australia. Great innings from Fakhar Zaman , looks a big match player.<br>Congratulations <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakvAus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakvAus</a></p>— Mohammad Kaif (@MohammadKaif) <a href="https://twitter.com/MohammadKaif/status/1015925723628834816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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And it has begun. The inevitable backlash for praising a player from across the border. Some people are so narrow minded that it puzzles me how blood flows through their head to begin with.
 
I am sure it has to do with him being a Muslim as well. Indian Muslims always have to live with this fear of getting their nationality questioned by saffron sanghi brigade. Which is why you will notice that sometimes Indian Muslims will go out of their way to abuse or say bad things about Pakistan just to prove how patriotic they are.

I remember when SRK supported Pakistani players in IPL, he was told to go to Pakistan and was called a Desh Drohi. There are so many examples of this.

Feel bad for Kaif.
 
Slim said:
I am sure it has to do with him being a Muslim as well. Indian Muslims always have to live with this fear of getting their nationality questioned by saffron sanghi brigade. Which is why you will notice that sometimes Indian Muslims will go out of their way to abuse or say bad things about Pakistan just to prove how patriotic they are.

I remember when SRK supported Pakistani players in IPL, he was told to go to Pakistan and was called a Desh Drohi. There are so many examples of this.

Feel bad for Kaif.
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He went out of his way to praise Yogi before he even did anything, unfortunately did not gain any brownie points :D
 
Internet is full of trolls, people hide behind anonymity and computer screen to say anythig they want which they will never be able to speak face to face..
 
Slim said:
I am sure it has to do with him being a Muslim as well. Indian Muslims always have to live with this fear of getting their nationality questioned by saffron sanghi brigade. Which is why you will notice that sometimes Indian Muslims will go out of their way to abuse or say bad things about Pakistan just to prove how patriotic they are.

I remember when SRK supported Pakistani players in IPL, he was told to go to Pakistan and was called a Desh Drohi. There are so many examples of this.

Feel bad for Kaif.
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but then u should also notice that SRK became SRK because of indian fans including bhagwa brigade.
Coming back to the topic some of our countrymen are too insecure.
But then they would have done the same thing irrespective of religion
 
Don’t be alarmed by internet hate.

In the real world no cares that he praised Pakistan.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well done to Pakistan on winning the T20 series final against Australia. Great innings from Fakhar Zaman , looks a big match player.<br>Congratulations <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakvAus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakvAus</a></p>— Mohammad Kaif (@MohammadKaif) <a href="https://twitter.com/MohammadKaif/status/1015925723628834816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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nothing bad about this tweet; why so many Indians have so much hate? whats the cure?
 
Poor lad needs to beef up his home security ASAP
 
no surprises here! poor kaif,it has to do with the fact that he is a Muslim.Hatred for Muslims is real. Chalo rabb khair kare.
 
Can someone tell me where is this backlash?

There is nothing in news. I googled it but found nothing there too. Heck people in my circle aren’t even aware of anything related to this tweet or the backlash.

People here reacting and giving it Muslim color as if some protest is going on against Kaif.
 
Slim said:
I am sure it has to do with him being a Muslim as well. Indian Muslims always have to live with this fear of getting their nationality questioned by saffron sanghi brigade. Which is why you will notice that sometimes Indian Muslims will go out of their way to abuse or say bad things about Pakistan just to prove how patriotic they are.

I remember when SRK supported Pakistani players in IPL, he was told to go to Pakistan and was called a Desh Drohi. There are so many examples of this.

Feel bad for Kaif.
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Many indian hindus like priyanka chopra, Karan johar ,rishi kapoor , etc many more names have been said to go to pakistan..
 
dauntless said:
no surprises here! poor kaif,it has to do with the fact that he is a Muslim.Hatred for Muslims is real. Chalo rabb khair kare.
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If I tell you to go to pakistan ,it doesn't mean I hate you . It means I love you and want to send you to your country of your choice. And enjoy whole freedom there which you cudnt enjoy in india.
I am not talking about kaif issue.i am just letting out this towards you.
 
Funny thing is we Indians on this forum are always being accused of obsession with Pakistan.

But in reality looks like some people take this job very seriously to find anything negative (true or false) related to India day and night and post it here to score goals. Even we are not aware of any such incidents.

Good job guys. Lage raho :D
 
goran said:
Really? What about this?

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/moh...nd-fakhar-zaman-1880111?pfrom=home-topstories
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Oh i see!!!

So Twitter trolling is Backlash!!! Sounded like some kind of protest, dharna or something like that.

Twitter is one place where there are trolls for every damn thing.

I’ll give you some examples-
PM Modi posts something- Trolling starts.
Rahul Pappu Gandhi posts something- Trolling starts.

Heck its true for every Tom Dick and Harry who are a bit famous. So there are thousands of backlashes going on everyday. What world we’re living in.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I am not defending it, but there is literally no fuss about it and no big personality has criticised him. These are just comments from general indian on twitters, on every tweet there is some indian bad mouthing, so what's so big about it.
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Some people wants that to be big.That's why we see opportunist hyping it more than what it deserves.
 
It is sad to see people venting their political frustation on a cricket forum by
making a mountain out of mole hill.
And the irony is that pakistan out of all nations is doing it.Cough Cough Mohd Yousuf Cough.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I think you haven't checked it thoroughly.
I scrolled two times and saw nearly 3-4 tweets.
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To add to this
I admit that there are some kattar who don't like people of other religion, but they don't represent thinking of our country.
Btw these kind of people are found everywhere.
 
akki said:
Many indian hindus like priyanka chopra, Karan johar ,rishi kapoor , etc many more names have been said to go to pakistan..
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Those are all Punjabi-Khatri names, which have roots in West Punjab (modern Pak), perhaps they'd say the same to Kohli/Dhawan if they didn't perform ?

Looks like you're a potential traitor to India either if you're Muslim or even a Punjabi-Khatri liberal who's "pro Pak" (when they are, and too much of a word) mainly because of nostalgia/family roots.
 
enkidu_ said:
Those are all Punjabi-Khatri names, which have roots in West Punjab (modern Pak), perhaps they'd say the same to Kohli/Dhawan if they didn't perform ?

Looks like you're a potential traitor to India either if you're Muslim or even a Punjabi-Khatri liberal who's "pro Pak" (when they are, and too much of a word) mainly because of nostalgia/family roots.
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Really? We don't even think like that.
Rishi kapoor, pc are all indians, u are wrong here sir.
 
Don't understand Indian fans issues. Better to be honest then be blinded by patriotism like some on this forum and the media.
 
Dear Pakistani friends, since many of you are hell bent on giving this Twitter Trolling thing a religious colour,

I can find similar stuff from Pakistan if you want. Post it here and declare that these are massive scale backlashes going on in Pakistan. Or for that matter, from anywhere in this world where this bimari of Twitter exists. Because i can bet my house that Twitter buffoons exist everywhere.
 
Are we really going to spend time on analyzing every troll reaction to celeb posts? These are the times we live in. Whatever celebs say, wear, think, do etc. comes under attack.
 
enkidu_ said:
Those are all Punjabi-Khatri names, which have roots in West Punjab (modern Pak), perhaps they'd say the same to Kohli/Dhawan if they didn't perform ?

Looks like you're a potential traitor to India either if you're Muslim or even a Punjabi-Khatri liberal who's "pro Pak" (when they are, and too much of a word) mainly because of nostalgia/family roots.
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I am also punjabi khatri. I really never thought of this angle. You are genius sir.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Are we really going to spend time on analyzing every troll reaction to celeb posts? These are the times we live in. Whatever celebs say, wear, think, do etc. comes under attack.
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This is a very common pattern. Anyone who congratulates Pakistan on anything is hated by Indians. It's not a few but this sentiment runs into the many.

Nice of Kaif to send such a tweet.
 
KingKhanWC said:
This is a very common pattern. Anyone who congratulates Pakistan on anything is hated by Indians. It's not a few but this sentiment runs into the many.

Nice of Kaif to send such a tweet.
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Except even in everyone, Indian Muslims get more hate. Look at Chopra's tweet and compare, Kaif is getting more hate because Indians are anti-Muslim
 
InziRules said:
Except even in everyone, Indian Muslims get more hate. Look at Chopra's tweet and compare, Kaif is getting more hate because Indians are anti-Muslim
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It really isn't a secret anymore.

What they should try to understand is cricketers are sportsmen, they recognise the achievements of others in their sport regardless of their nationality. If Kaif praises the Pakistan team, it's not because he's anti India or Pro Pakistani, it's only because he was a cricketer himself. Hopefully Indians will read this and understand.:)
 
And Pak fans were annoyed at Sachin not congratulating the Pak team on twitter after their CT victory. Do you get the reason now? Very few Indians are broad minded when it comes to Pakistan, which is a shame really.
 
Hitman said:
And Pak fans were annoyed at Sachin not congratulating the Pak team on twitter after their CT victory. Do you get the reason now? Very few Indians are broad minded when it comes to Pakistan, which is a shame really.
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Is it a select few or the overwhelming majority?
 
InziRules said:
Except even in everyone, Indian Muslims get more hate. Look at Chopra's tweet and compare, Kaif is getting more hate because Indians are anti-Muslim
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How did you come to the conclusion of ‘more hate’? I’m genuinely curious.

Priyanka’s tweet had 5.4k retweets and 47.4k likes whereas Kaif’s tweet had 988 retweets and 11.3k likes.

Did you go through all the tweets to see who attracted more hate?
 
Hahaha! Kaif is darling of right wing bigots.. Lagta hai kuch bhakton ko naraaz kr diya bhai sahab ne apni is tweet se :D
 
Probably why Sachin commented on a hockey game instead of CT final last year
 
InziRules said:
You say this, but Akash Chopra has a very similar tweet, with not a single reply anywhere close to the vitriol Kaif is getting. Any reason for this difference?
https://twitter.com/cricketaakash/status/1015930204085088256
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Ok then you should also explain why Kaif(11.4k) tweets had far more likes than Aakash(2.8k) tweet.

Your point might still be true but those tweets doesn't prove anything.

If you want me to state the obvious then I'm going to do it.

Yes there are many Indians who doesn't like Pakistan and vice versa.
 
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I am pretty sure that the people who reacted negatively to his tweet are less than 0.0001% of all Indian cricket fans. So why is this a news? . News sites make a news out of such minor things to bait for clicks. Don’t fall for it people
 
There is nothing wrong about what he said.

He is making that statement as a cricketer. If someone played well , one needs to appreciate that.
 
OneTip-OneHand said:
Oh i see!!!

So Twitter trolling is Backlash!!! Sounded like some kind of protest, dharna or something like that.

Twitter is one place where there are trolls for every damn thing.

I’ll give you some examples-
PM Modi posts something- Trolling starts.
Rahul Pappu Gandhi posts something- Trolling starts.

Heck its true for every Tom Dick and Harry who are a bit famous. So there are thousands of backlashes going on everyday. What world we’re living in.
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These are just small examples of the mindset of the bhagwa brigade which you probably support as well but don't want to admit. For me personally, this whole issue is normal and there is no big deal about it. Considering the much more serious crimes being committed against Indian muslims everyday, this is nothing. We all need to grow up and be progressive.
 
Muslims in India are in a damned if you do situation. First Mohammed Shami and now this.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Internet is full of trolls, people hide behind anonymity and computer screen to say anythig they want which they will never be able to speak face to face..
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most of the twitter accounts has their name and pics, so question of anonymity doesn't exist.
They aren't trolling they are expressing their true feelings.
 
I hope educated and broad minded Indians aren't dismissing this as 'trolling' because it isn't.

It seems Indians are getting less tolerant. Not a good look brother and sisters from India.
 
KingKhanWC said:
This is a very common pattern. Anyone who congratulates Pakistan on anything is hated by Indians. It's not a few but this sentiment runs into the many.

Nice of Kaif to send such a tweet.
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The population is huge. And there are people who have nothing much to do in their lives and need a reason to take out their frustrations on the internet.

Virat had to come out recently to protest against trolling that Anushka faced. Sachin wasn't spared either for his helmet comment. These are the country's biggest stars.

I completely avoid twitter. Useless platform with no control over the content.
 
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Pretty sure this would have gone unnoticed in india if Kaif’s name was VVS Laxman. Poor guy won’t have a career anymore..having a name like Mohammad was already bad enough in that country.
 
cricketjoshila said:
So Sachin should comment on the basis of the requirements of PPers?
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Sachin can comment on whatever he wants but people have the right to call him out for poor sportsmanship. He was at the game and commented on the hockey match but ignored the one he was at.

Do you really think that wasn't in bad spirit? Try to answer without being a "patriot".
 
Ashwin has praised Pakistani cricketers on Twitter a lot ,I wonder if anyone told him to go to Pakistan?
 
cricketjoshila said:
So Sachin should comment on the basis of the requirements of PPers?
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Yes.

In fact, we tell him what to eat and drink.

When he struggled against McGrath outside the off-stump, a handful of us where there coaching him to play with soft, not hard hands.

Tendulkar very keenly made the diplomatic decision of not doing so when every Indian celebrity was doing just that.

So yes, it does not “hurt” but it comes of as desperate and failed reparations, if you will.
 
El Generico said:
Sachin can comment on whatever he wants but people have the right to call him out for poor sportsmanship. He was at the game and commented on the hockey match but ignored the one he was at.

Do you really think that wasn't in bad spirit? Try to answer without being a "patriot".
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He is not part of the game anymore. He is like any other spectator. Doesnot need to comment on the game.
 
ManFan said:
Yes.

In fact, we tell him what to eat and drink.

When he struggled against McGrath outside the off-stump, a handful of us where there coaching him to play with soft, not hard hands.

Tendulkar very keenly made the diplomatic decision of not doing so when every Indian celebrity was doing just that.

So yes, it does not “hurt” but it comes of as desperate and failed reparations, if you will.
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Is this an attempt at humour?
 
cricketjoshila said:
He is not part of the game anymore. He is like any other spectator. Doesnot need to comment on the game.
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Sure, he does not need to or have to comment on the game. But you really didn't find it odd that he commented on the hockey match but ignored the game he was at?

Also he is a cricketing legend, so obviously his actions will have more meaning and you can't compare him to a normal spectator.
 
El Generico said:
Sure, he does not need to or have to comment on the game. But you really didn't find it odd that he commented on the hockey match but ignored the game he was at?

Also he is a cricketing legend, so obviously his actions will have more meaning and you can't compare him to a normal spectator.
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He will comment on whatever he wants to. He is not playing the game so he is free to do whatever he wants. If he had refused to shake hands with a opposition player like Maxwell did when he was playing then it would have been a reason to criticise.

But this? Its nothing. He is free to choose when he wants to comment when not. Its his FOE and liberty.
 
Who cares. He praised it,its okay. Now it is their mentality and personal matter whether they like it or not. Let celebrate our victory.
 
cricketjoshila said:
He will comment on whatever he wants to. He is not playing the game so he is free to do whatever he wants. If he had refused to shake hands with a opposition player like Maxwell did when he was playing then it would have been a reason to criticise.

But this? Its nothing. He is free to choose when he wants to comment when not. Its his FOE and liberty.
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yea dear he is free to comment but people expect big from big players which unfortunately was missing. Otherwise it did not stop anybody from celebrating the very victory.
 
slipcatch said:
most of the twitter accounts has their name and pics, so question of anonymity doesn't exist.
They aren't trolling they are expressing their true feelings.
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Well maybe anonymous is a wrong word to use but let’s put it this way i can say anything on internet on twitter to Brock lesnar or Jon jones however if they are in front of me will I say bad things to their face?

It might be true feelings or maybe trolling but since the rise of internet people have become more frustrated and spit venom online a lot more because they know there will be no backlash..
 
slipcatch said:
I hope educated and broad minded Indians aren't dismissing this as 'trolling' because it isn't.

It seems Indians are getting less tolerant. Not a good look brother and sisters from India.
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Well I have heard a lot of anti Muslim folks in my real life but I have never seen any one of those anti Muslim people say anything to the face of any Muslim.. When they come in front of any Muslim they talk normally and act friendly behind their backs they spew venom against the community..

India has always been like this, the Hindu Muslim divide has been always there.. Because of internet now people have a platform to show their feelings.. That is about it.. These keyboard warriors will never say anything on the face just on the internet so best to ignore them..
 
DRsohail said:
yea dear he is free to comment but people expect big from big players which unfortunately was missing. Otherwise it did not stop anybody from celebrating the very victory.
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You are right, we were expecting too much from Sachin. Like [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] said he was there as just another spectator and acted like one as well.

I guess since Pakistani legends like Wasim/Waqar always congratulate India on their wins, we expect others to do the same but not everyone is alike.
 
DRsohail said:
yea dear he is free to comment but people expect big from big players which unfortunately was missing. Otherwise it did not stop anybody from celebrating the very victory.
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Why do you expect things from persons of foreign countries?

Have you seen Indians complaining that XYZ player from ABC country didnot congratulate the team?
 
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El Generico said:
You are right, we were expecting too much from Sachin. Like [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] said he was there as just another spectator and acted like one as well.

I guess since Pakistani legends like Wasim/Waqar always congratulate India on their wins, we expect others to do the same but not everyone is alike.
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Wasim spent a long time earning his bread in India. Waqar too got stints in India so may be they felt obligated. Sachin has no such obligation.

Btw we also had Pakistani players saying that WC 2011 final was fixed.
 
Twitter brings out the worst in people and shame on those who abused Kaif. But scrolling through the replies to his tweets many Indians also chastised the abusers and hate mongers, so one can't generalize a population based on a few random tweets. One thing I have noticed on PP is the generalization of Indians/Hindus based on a few random events. Criticize the offenders but don't paint everyone with the same brush.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Wasim spent a long time earning his bread in India. Waqar too got stints in India so may be they felt obligated. Sachin has no such obligation.

Btw we also had Pakistani players saying that WC 2011 final was fixed.
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Basit Ali. It's hard to believe such men played cricket at the highest level for their country. But then again Basit Ali played cricket in the 90's for the Pak team. No wonder he believes anything good happening with the Indian cricket team is/was fixed.
 
Is this a story on the basis of tweets on Twitter, or did something actually happen to Kaif?
 
OneTip-OneHand said:
How did you come to the conclusion of ‘more hate’? I’m genuinely curious.

Priyanka’s tweet had 5.4k retweets and 47.4k likes whereas Kaif’s tweet had 988 retweets and 11.3k likes.

Did you go through all the tweets to see who attracted more hate?
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Akash, not Priyanka
 
cricketjoshila said:
Is this an attempt at humour?
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Of course not.

The fact that the most popular cricketer of the prior and current generation, who thereby is a natural global ambassador of the game, refuses to congratulate the team winning an ICC Tournament after he was shown on the screen attending the game, simply because of fear of backlash of his countrymen, is not a good look.
 
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ManFan said:
Of course not.

The fact that the most popular cricketer of the prior and current generation, who thereby is a natural global ambassador of the game, refuses to congratulate the team winning an ICC Tournament after he was shown on the screen attending the game, simply because of fear of backlash of his countrymen, is not a good look.
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Or he simply doesnot want to congratulate the Pakistan team.

Is it hard to understand that people are not bound to congratulate a team or comment on a topic and they simply dont want to do it.Thats his decision.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Or he simply doesnot want to congratulate the Pakistan team.

Is it hard to understand that people are not bound to congratulate a team or comment on a topic and they simply dont want to do it.Thats his decision.
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I know it’s his decision.

But when you are a bigger entity than yourself, you have to think beyond what you want to do.

It’s like Charles Barkley saying, “Just because I dunk a basketball, doesn’t mean I should raise your kids”. While he may not like it or want to accept the burden of responsibility, the fact remained that young viewers likened him to their role model.

It’s about the bigger picture involved and not just an “individual decision”.

There are many other examples in cricket such as Benazir Bhutto refusing to shake the hands of Arjuna Ranatunga at the 96’ Final in Lahore.
 
ManFan said:
I know it’s his decision.

But when you are a bigger entity than yourself, you have to think beyond what you want to do.

It’s like Charles Barkley saying, “Just because I dunk a basketball, doesn’t mean I should raise your kids”. While he may not like it or want to accept the burden of responsibility, the fact remained that young viewers likened him to their role model.

It’s about the bigger picture involved and not just an “individual decision”.

There are many other examples in cricket such as Benazir Bhutto refusing to shake the hands of Arjuna Ranatunga at the 96’ Final in Lahore.
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Bhutto was the PM and host she not shaking hands is in poor choice.

Sachin is not a player now.

Its your outlook of what a Indian should do. Dont know why he should follow it.
 
Deport the traitor now.

He is a disgrace to India. How dare he praise even their cricketer.
 
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