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Mohammad Rizwan as Pakistan's all-format captain?

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I read a post somewhere suggesting Rizwan as the captain for all formats. I welcome this suggestion

Let’s get this over and done with. Let’s not leave anything to speculation or ‘what could have been’ 10-15 years down the line

He is 28 and apparently a ‘super captain’ as they say of KPK and Multan Sultans

Pakistan cricket is Rome. We the fans are Caesar, and the players are the performers/gladiators.

Babar being a great batsman was/is being hounded out by the press and media. If Rizwan is ‘The Man’, then it’s time for him to be the man.

Make it happen Sethi sab. Let’s get this over and done with.
 
Rizwan is a superhero. He should be called Captain Pakistan and given a green cape with the star and crescent.
 
Kroll said:
Rizwan is a superhero. He should be called Captain Pakistan and given a green cape with the star and crescent.
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The time is now

I’m 100% not trolling when I say this. Let him captain

He will get an extended amount of time if IK’s government comes back into power too so no one will politically remove him
 
Seriously? What credentials does Rizwan have to become captain, and that too of all formats? I think PCB has gone made these days, but I do not think they have gone this mad. If true, this is an absurd decision.


Rizwan is a highly defensive batsman that is currently squatting the opening slot and PP overs for run a ball or run every 2 ball 50. This is not a winning formula for games. With him as captain, we will tremendous setbacks in batting. Defensive strategies never win games.

I am in favor of Azam Khan being made the captain. He is a young player, who is confident and aggressive batsman. He just scored a 100 in the BPL and has played many onslaught innings against many top ranking bowling like Shaheen, Haris, etc. Making Azam the captain will ensure that Pakistan plays modern 2023 cricket with positive and winning intent. He is smart in individual who has good grasp of the game and great presence of mind on the field. A very tactful player with great skills and talents.

I am in favor of Azam being captain of ODIs mainly, as he should lead the team at the World Cup this year. Once that is complete and he is eased in the role, he should be given T20 and Test captaincies as subsequent bilateral series are played.
 
Seriously, this could happen one day.

I wouldn't be surprised by it.
 
Absolutely not. However Rizzy as test captain is not a bad shout. Babar to continue as white ball captain
 
Babar and Rizwan are the same thing if no one has noticed Rizwan is mostly making majority of the field settings and telling bowlers what to don
 
He might be regretting not giving his spinners more overs today when the pacers were getting smashed:

Multan Sultans spinners bowled just 5 overs between them:

5-35-4 (12 dot balls)
 
Argument for:
- keeps place in side as a player
- made most of his limited talent. Can do same for Pakistan and get the best out of the players
- is 32 year old; has 3 years at the top of his game left
- non-controversial
- saves Babar from captain pressure
- allows a better batsman in team instead of Shan masood
- has some experience with captaincy
- there is no one else
- less politics because of non-lahori/Karachi captain
- always involved in the game as a keeper…maybe can do what Dhoni did
- has been vice-captain already
Argument against:
- may explain losses as Qudrat ka Nizam
- ?
 
Yes, definitely. Pakistan cricket isn't completely finished yet; we just need Rizwan to drive the final nail in the coffin.
 
emranabbas said:
Yes, definitely. Pakistan cricket isn't completely finished yet; we just need Rizwan to drive the final nail in the coffin.
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I thought this was rock bottom and was the final nail in coffin. What else can happen worse than this? Who else if not Rizwan?
 
Ahmed216 said:
Misbah scored a century at Lords at 41
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Just letting you know if Misbah in 2012 had quit odi captaincy and from the team just like he was forced to resign in t20, and then he let 2016 be his end

He'd be the most beloved captain of all time for pakistan.

It's his greed and many of his fans associate his positivity in test and actually taking the brunt from a crap team in 2010 that was also dubbed as spot fixers in 2010 and terrorists in 2009 to a resptable team and turned uae into a fortress.

It's his greed that caused people to despise him and his fans just can't accept that Misbah is not jesus Christ, him doing one positive thing does not equate to him being the perfect human or the sharukh Khan of cricket.

Test was his thing, He was a succesful test coach, and a succesful test captain. He was poor overseas but that's okay, no one is perfect.

That's why people have respect for azhar Ali more them misbah, Azhar Ali completly collapsed the team in 2016 but he admitted it, willingly stepped down, acknowledged he was xrap and should have declined misbah's offer and even was willing to just focus on his test game which he was out 2nd best batter in test atm behind Younis. Sarfi and mickey urged him to stay till 2017 ct as his experience at opening as a special opener would be invaluable which it ended up being in the final.

Misbah should be a lesson in not to get greedy. If you are good at something, stick to it. I'm all for learning new skills and improving and trying new things but not when your entire god damn country and it's reputation is at stake.

He should have stayed away from odi as soon as he was removed from t20 in 2012, and should have only accepted a test coaching role.

All this cheif selector + all format coach and all format captain alongside his nonsense mohali botches cost him.

Logically he should have left in 2007 and only.played test from 2007 to 2016, never touching whiteball post 2007 again.

Yk made it clear in 2009 Misbah wasn't cut out for whiteball.
 
mominsaigol said:
Just letting you know if Misbah in 2012 had quit odi captaincy and from the team just like he was forced to resign in t20, and then he let 2016 be his end

He'd be the most beloved captain of all time for pakistan.

It's his greed and many of his fans associate his positivity in test and actually taking the brunt from a crap team in 2010 that was also dubbed as spot fixers in 2010 and terrorists in 2009 to a resptable team and turned uae into a fortress.

It's his greed that caused people to despise him and his fans just can't accept that Misbah is not jesus Christ, him doing one positive thing does not equate to him being the perfect human or the sharukh Khan of cricket.

Test was his thing, He was a succesful test coach, and a succesful test captain. He was poor overseas but that's okay, no one is perfect.

That's why people have respect for azhar Ali more them misbah, Azhar Ali completly collapsed the team in 2016 but he admitted it, willingly stepped down, acknowledged he was xrap and should have declined misbah's offer and even was willing to just focus on his test game which he was out 2nd best batter in test atm behind Younis. Sarfi and mickey urged him to stay till 2017 ct as his experience at opening as a special opener would be invaluable which it ended up being in the final.

Misbah should be a lesson in not to get greedy. If you are good at something, stick to it. I'm all for learning new skills and improving and trying new things but not when your entire god damn country and it's reputation is at stake.

He should have stayed away from odi as soon as he was removed from t20 in 2012, and should have only accepted a test coaching role.

All this cheif selector + all format coach and all format captain alongside his nonsense mohali botches cost him.

Logically he should have left in 2007 and only.played test from 2007 to 2016, never touching whiteball post 2007 again.

Yk made it clear in 2009 Misbah wasn't cut out for whiteball.
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How could he have left in 2007😃😃 He had just started featuring permanently in the team? And I don't expect any player to believe he's not good enough to play.

And when was our team dubbed as terrorists lol
 
Jatlahoria said:
why was Sarfaraz pushed out? Can he make a comeback?
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After being given a brutal snub which player in Pakistan would behave in such a dignified way as Sarfraz has for last 4 years?

Today, while keeping wickets in place of Rizwan, he was so involved in the game and was giving his inputs. This shows his patriotism and commitment towards our cause.
 
Ahmed216 said:
How could he have left in 2007😃😃 He had just started featuring permanently in the team? And I don't expect any player to believe he's not good enough to play.

And when was our team dubbed as terrorists lol
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In 2009 the attack on sri lanka so the Indian media decided to troll + the blame the 2008 stadium bombing on us even though it was their own home turf, Khair not gonna get into that.

He should have left in 2007 or max 2009 and only played test.

YK had made it very clear that Misbah was not suited. If oathgate never happened and YK captained till 2011, Misbah wouldn't even be in whiteball.
 
He should've been the obvious choice the moment they removed Babar the first time.

Yet they decided to try their hand on Shaheen.

I just feel there's alot of people in that position in the chairmen's office that don't like Rizwan for whatever reason.
 
You guys need to learn Babar, Rizwan, Shan are all from the same mould.

You need a captain who doesn't have the same thought process, bur you also need to fix things at grassroot level now
 
It’s time to acknowledge him. The only man with a genuine heart, a true conscience and the track record to stear Pakistan from its lowest point to salvation. All Rizzlers hit the like button.

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Ahmed216 said:
After being given a brutal snub which player in Pakistan would behave in such a dignified way as Sarfraz has for last 4 years?

Today, while keeping wickets in place of Rizwan, he was so involved in the game and was giving his inputs. This shows his patriotism and commitment towards our cause.
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Sarfaraz is still part of the squad, so him replacing Shan Masood will be not be unusual. But does Rizwan has the backing of PCB, waqar etc.?
 
I believe three separate captains is the only way forward.
If you have one captain in all formats then you're stuck with prob with EAMPLE captain Babar and his mates in all three formats continuing or starting all over again, or even captain leading the grouping.
Anyone who has been part of or implicated in the grouping should not be made captain or vice-captain
They should also look at removing captain from team selection (at least for couple years) until they can fix this mess that they themselves have created, if at all possible or they truly they want to.
 
Jatlahoria said:
I thought this was rock bottom and was the final nail in coffin. What else can happen worse than this? Who else if not Rizwan?
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What difference does it make if you're choosing someone cut from the same cloth? You might as well keep Babar or Shan Masood as captain. The biggest tragedy is that selfish Misbah didn’t groom anyone as a captain, and now selfish Babar isn't either.
 
We need someone outside the current set up to come in and take over. A bit like a misbah in 2010 when he took charge of test captaincy. Someone with a mature head and a regular in domestics. Maybe a Fawad Alam? He's too old though. Any other names?
 
Not all format captain but definitely Test captain. What other choices do you have that you can really back on merit. He is a very good keeper and he’s the one guy who is giving you runs with the bat while others fail around him.
Shan doesn’t even deserve to be in the team as a batsman and is blocking a spot just because he is the captain.
Rizwan is not the reason your team is losing, other batsmen and bowlers not performing is. He can’t fix everything but at least he holds his position on merit in Tests.
 
There are already speculations in media that PCB is considering Rizwan as white Ball captain if not all formats. I personally would like him to give up T20 internationals and give a youngster his spot, he is too valuable player to be burned out in all three formats. To be fair to Shan he should atleast captain England series although his batting is not showing much improvement. Rizwan can be handed ODI captaincy now.
 
emranabbas said:
What difference does it make if you're choosing someone cut from the same cloth? You might as well keep Babar or Shan Masood as captain. The biggest tragedy is that selfish Misbah didn’t groom anyone as a captain, and now selfish Babar isn't either.
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Possibly someone new from domestic structure recognized as or proven history as good captain.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Make him Captain.. get it over with once for all. With Misbah back at helm of things looks like it will be the case.
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This

We have to swallow this pill once. Otherwise his supporters will come up with theories like Rizwan is being blocked to become Pakistan captain
 
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Rana said:
This

We have to swallow this pill once. Otherwise his supporters will come up with theories like Rizwan is being blocked by to become Pakistan captain [=131470]@gazza619[/USER]
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Riz is the only choice. This decision should have been made many years ago. Unfortunately things are so broken that it will take at least 2 years to fix. Riz will need a long run and total authority over strategy and team selection matters.

Otherwise, might as well make your favourites Asif Ali captain and Azam Khan his vice.
 
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gazza619 said:
Riz is the only choice. This decision should have been made many years ago. Unfortunately things are so broken that it will take at least 2 years to fix. Riz will need a long run and total authority over strategy and team selection matters.

Otherwise, might as well make your favourites Asif Ali captain and Azam Khan his vice.
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Lol

Now we have to wait 10 years for Rizwan to deliver but others like Shan can’t have 2 series?

Waise sharam nahi aati? Things are so broken because of who? Was Rizwan not actively influencing things to become this bad?
 
Rana said:
Lol

Now we have to wait 10 years for Rizwan to deliver but others like Shan can’t have 2 series?

Waise sharam nahi aati? Things are so broken because of who? Was Rizwan not actively influencing things to become this bad?
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No,
Babar was.
 
PakPremi said:
No,
Babar was.
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You can say that now. But It was pretty clear Babar was being heavily influenced by Rizwan and his management company (same as Babar’s).

I really don’t mind this at all, at least now Rizwan can be the front man who faces the music unlike Babar who he was hiding behind all this time.
 
Rizwan don't have capacity to hold both keeper and Captaincy, even with one he already giving Oscar winning acting performance, with both he will definitely win Oscar for best actor in 2025
 
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