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Mohsin Naqvi or Jay Shah: Who is the more incompetent cricket administrator?

Who is the more incompetent cricket administrator?

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In Pakistan, especially in the rein of a particular government, the post for the chairman of PCB is awarded to a person merely on his political services. After Najam Sethi, Mohsin Naqvi is the second caretaker CM to be appointed as head of the cricket board. And may be that is the reason that Pakistan cricket is ailing for quite sometime now. The recent shocking exit of an acclaimed WC winning coach like Gary Kirsten us a testament of it.

At the same time, things in Indian board earlier and now most probably at the ICC level are going to take a sharp turn towards mismanagement as another political appointee and the son of India's home minister is going to take the reins of ICC soon. With the exemplary mismanagement of ICC ODI World Cup 2023 before us all, a question pops up in mind that among the above two characters who is more incompetent cricket administrator and a bigger threat to the realm of cricket?
 
Hard to judge because personally haven't seen much of Jay Shah. But Mohsin Naqvi is right up there like the usual personnel of establishment who are good for nothing and cause suffering whatever position they occupy.
 
How exactly is Jay Shah incompetent? Sure, he can do better, but he doesn't really strike me as incompetent.

Under Naqvi's tenure, we have had multiple captains, coaches, selection committees, and special advisors, and our team has plummeted to unseen lows.
 
Don’t give two craps about their political affiliations. Will only comment on cricket administration.

Naqvi’s admin work seems ok, respectful.

Naqvi’s cricket direction and the decisions the decisions he sanctions in this facet are a total joke.

Seen enough of this man to make this judgement. Complete failure.
 
Rana said:
Don’t give two craps about their political affiliations. Will only comment on cricket administration.

Naqvi’s admin work seems ok, respectful.

Naqvi’s cricket direction and the decisions the decisions he sanctions in this facet are a total joke.

Seen enough of this man to make this judgement. Complete failure.
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Ahh he is not ur hulk hogan anymore ?
 
Major said:
Ahh he is not ur hulk hogan anymore ?
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Whether he is hulk hogan

Or Bilawal is Goldust

Or Imran Khan is Akon (locked up)

One thing that is certain, and that is Misbah ul Haq isn’t coming back.
 
How is this a comparison? One loss at home and Telly Tubby Shah gets compared to the hulk hogan of Pakistan who hulk smashed his own management?

The only thing I can recall of Naqvi’s tenure :surgery, loss to BD at home, loss to US.
 
JaDed said:
How is this a comparison? One loss at home and Telly Tubby Shah gets compared to the hulk hogan of Pakistan who hulk smashed his own management?

The only thing I can recall of Naqvi’s tenure :surgery, loss to BD at home, loss to US.
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Low attendance and doctored pitches in WC 2023, selection of an aged team under his aegis in T20 WC 2024 that luckily won the tournament despite Kohli's full efforts otherwise and special thanks to the biggest chokers here too. And biggest reason a guy with degree in B.Tech just heading board because of being son of an influential politician.
 
Kuch bhi. What has Shah done wrong?
PCB would be the 2nd richest and best run board in the world if they had someone of Jay's caliber running the show.

He is an unlikeable shark not an incompetent fool.
 
Wrong comparison, it should have been Mohsin Naqvi or Zaka Ashraf or Ijaz Butt (late). Pick the worst
 
Called it at the time he was appointed, the guy doesn’t have clue about the game. The average Pakistani who won’t even know the rules of an LBW. Probably wouldn’t be able to tell you who the captain was of our CT17 team.

Naqvi has somehow managed to surpass the likes of Sethi, Ashraf and Raja as the worst chairmen in history.

Every other day there’s chaos within the PCB, we’ll probably need to wait until the next elections to get rid of him.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Low attendance and doctored pitches in WC 2023, selection of an aged team under his aegis in T20 WC 2024 that luckily won the tournament despite Kohli's full efforts otherwise and special thanks to the biggest chokers here too. And biggest reason a guy with degree in B.Tech just heading board because of being son of an influential politician.
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WC 2023 still made money, and India luckily won the tournament? India didn’t lose a single game.. I’ll not give the credit of the win to him but the stability this telly tubby provides helped.
Being son of the influential politician yes I agree but even in that Naqvi takes the cake as a person who is from Establishment and is managing home ministry as well, atleast this man has only one post.
 
I don't know anything about Shah but I do know the FC domestic season started late because the murdering thug was too busy kidnapping people for a constitutional amendment. I dare anyone to show me a similar example as this useless clown
 
If Naqvi was Indian the Indian public would had crucified him for failing on two fronts or even having two posts.

If anything I would say Indian public demands way more of their officials than Pakistanis.
 
Naqvi, of course. Naqvi was always going to face an uphill battle after he dismissed Shaheen as captain just five games into his tenure. This decision caused a ripple effect as players began losing respect for Naqvi. The situation only worsened when Amir and Imad were allowed back into the team after they had publicly criticized players and team performances on social media. This move undermined the team’s unity and made it appear as though such behavior was tolerated.

If it were up to me, my first action would be to establish a permanent ban on players using social media to voice complaints about the team or fellow teammates. This policy would help protect team morale and foster a culture of respect and accountability.
 
Shaheen Afridi should also take responsibility for the impact of bringing Amir and Imad back into the team, which disrupted team chemistry. Personally, I don’t fully trust Shaheen, he has his own issues and reportedly lobbied with his father in law and Zaka to secure the captaincy before the T20 World Cup. Naqvi, Zaka and the players have only added to an already deteriorating situation, turning it into a complete mess. With team morale at an all time low, their actions have only deepened the division and instability, making it even harder to rebuild unity and trust within the squad.
 
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Shaheen Afridi should also take responsibility for the impact of bringing Amir and Imad back into the team, which disrupted team chemistry.
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It was Babar backstabbing Shaheen for captaincy that ruined team chemistry.
 
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Jay Shah’s decision to convince Rahul to continue as coach turned out to be a game changer, ultimately leading to India’s triumph in the T20I World Championship.
 
Knowing its a clickbait thread, I will try to be reasonable.

Any basic rule of a successful business is that it should be successful even though it's run by a clown.it means company should be so automated and matured that it should be run by the committee heads,division heads with out any disruption. As we saw from 90's bcci worked only towards profit but nothing else so they are more comfortable even to have a kid as it's head. pcb who runs by corrupt ,directionless ( i daresay uneducated in wealth creation for people/pcb ) staff always looks for the advice from the pm appointed choosen one.

On the decisions wise equal pay for women's cricketers and wpl for them is a game changer forever for the future generations. Completion of 40 acre New Ncc stadium with state of art facilities in 2 years is a great thing .
 
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Jay Shah. No matter what he achieved, he will always be remembered as the guy who failed to win the World Cup at home with unlimited political and financial backing, along with resources.

He single handedly humiliated the Indian government, Indian PM, Indian cricket team, and the Indian nation - all on the world stage.

No one will ever come close.
 
Vikram1989 said:
Knowing its a clickbait thread, I will try to be reasonable.

Any basic rule of a successful business is that it should be successful even though it's run by a clown.it means company should be so automated and matured that it should be run by the committee heads,division heads with out any disruption. As we saw from 90's bcci worked only towards profit but nothing else so they are more comfortable even to have a kid as it's head. pcb who runs by corrupt ,directionless ( i daresay uneducated in wealth creation for people/pcb ) staff always looks for the advice from the pm appointed choosen one.

On the decisions wise equal pay for women's cricketers and wpl for them is a game changer forever for the future generations. Completion of 40 acre New Ncc stadium with state of art facilities in 2 years is a great thing .
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Lol, yes. I know Jay Shah is hated for his political connection and is a nepo baby. But he also a very competent administrator. He has been in cricket administration for a decade and has done very well for the Indian cricket. You will see pretty positive development even at icc from him. Just a clickbait post
 
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IMO this poll itself is misdirected because it has the same glaring flaw that afflicts Pakistan cricket.

Which is - confusing people with organisational and process capability.

Naqvi would have done just as well as Shah if he headed BCCI.

Jay Shah would not have done any better if he were heading PCB.

Ask yourself why that is, if you want to make Pakistan cricket more efficient.
 
There is huge difference in both people's situation but Jay Shah has more trophies in his cabinet than what Naqvi has (0).
 
Naqvi's biggest exam upcoming whether India visits Pakistan for CT remains to be seen
 
JaDed said:
WC 2023 still made money, and India luckily won the tournament? India didn’t lose a single game.. I’ll not give the credit of the win to him but the stability this telly tubby provides helped.
Being son of the influential politician yes I agree but even in that Naqvi takes the cake as a person who is from Establishment and is managing home ministry as well, atleast this man has only one post.
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Yep he is more competent among two incompetent guys. Otherwise the other big tournament besides WC under his aegis Asia Cup 2023 was also a disaster as most of the matches were rain affected in SL although it was originally meant to be a Pakistan hosted event.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
IMO this poll itself is misdirected because it has the same glaring flaw that afflicts Pakistan cricket.

Which is - confusing people with organisational and process capability.

Naqvi would have done just as well as Shah if he headed BCCI.

Jay Shah would not have done any better if he were heading PCB.

Ask yourself why that is, if you want to make Pakistan cricket more efficient.
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This.

Jay Shah could sleep on his job 24/7 and the result would largely be the same for BCCI.

Both, I believe, are highly incompetent misplaced individuals. However, Jay Shah at least can use his age as an excuse. Naqvi, on the other hand, is acting like a fish out of water. Totally out of his depth.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
ASP Sher Bano is being considered as Head of Women cricket according to some reports. And then some of our respected friends term Naqvi as some Einstein of cricket.
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Naqvi himself has a dual job, so maybe he's now interested in giving dual jobs to everyone. He's turned PCB into a joke.
 
Nasty Naz said:
I hope PCB takes a firm stance at this point. It can't be Pakistan can come to India, host Asia cup as a hybrid model because of India and continue to get nothing in return. There is a 2026 WC in India and PCB should refuse to come to India as well.

Or simply host the event without India. Maybe financially it's not as valuable but any self-respecting would take a firm stance at this point. You cannot keep letting India dictate everything that goes in cricket including world events. It's an ICC event for which every other country is coming so using safety as a concern is a blatant lie. Furthermore, India sends teams from other sports to Pakistan so I suppose the security concern only extends to cricketers. Regardless what path they go down, it must be firm and not spineless as they usually are.
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BCCI is not run by clown like PCB.

2026 World T20 co- hosted by India and Sri Lanka

2031 World cup co - hosted by india and Bangladesh .

If Pakistan have any problem than they can play their matches in Sri Lanka or Bangladesh .
 
Devadwal said:
BCCI is not run by clown like PCB.

2026 World T20 co- hosted by India and Sri Lanka

2031 World cup co - hosted by india and Bangladesh .

If Pakistan have any problem than they can play their matches in Sri Lanka or Bangladesh .
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Lol...yes Jay Shah is going to ICC now
 
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