Monsters kidnap toddler in India before raping, beheading her

[Pakistanian]

https://nypost.com/2019/08/02/monsters-kidnap-toddler-in-india-before-raping-beheading-her/

Two savages kidnapped a 3-year-old girl from a train station in India, gang-raped her, and when she screamed, cut off her head, according to horrifying reports.

The toddler, whose abduction was captured on surveillance footage, was sleeping next to her mother July 25 at Tatanager train station in the state of Jharkahnd when one of the monsters scooped her up, the Times of India reported.

Her mother later found the girl missing and reported her disappearance to police, who reviewed video of the incident.

The footage showed the woman’s boyfriend, Rinku Sah, picking up the sleeping girl from the train platform.

Sah, 36, then brought her a couple miles from the station to a scrapyard, where he and another man raped her, the news outlet reported.

When she started to scream, Sah allegedly took a sharp object and beheaded the tot. He then stuffed her body in a bag and dumped it near the lot, according to reports.

Both Sah and his alleged accomplice, Kailash Kumar, have been charged in connection with the murder, the Times of India reported.

 

[Civil]

Just absolutely terrible...humans are a shameful shameful race..

 

[Pakistanian]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">3 year old Rafida Khatoon was kidnapped, raped, beheaded & thrown in the garbage. What monsters are we creating in our society that destroy our innocent children's lives? Absolutely heartbreaking- The perpetrator should be burnt or hanged! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JusticeForRafidaKhatoon?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JusticeForRafidaKhatoon</a> <a href="https://t.co/8hEFTxgM20">pic.twitter.com/8hEFTxgM20</a></p>— Salman Nizami (@SalmanNizami_) <a href="https://twitter.com/SalmanNizami_/status/1157181032078151681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

This is unimaginable brutality.

Still no death punishment?

Death punishment is needed for monsters like this.

Torture death is better.

 

[Swashbuckler]

This is unimaginable brutality.

Still no death punishment?

Death punishment is needed for monsters like this.

Torture death is better.

Just yesterday
Lok Sabha clears bill to give death for sexual assault on children
https://www.livemint.com/politics/policy/lok-sabha-clears-bill-to-give-death-for-sexual-assault-on-children-1564680708757.html

The bill was passed by the Rajya Sabha last week and will now require the President’s assent to turn it into law.

The culprits will hang and so will future monsters like them.

RIP little girl, sad that India is doing so poorly when it comes to gender violence. Indian society needs large scale reforms, unfortunately very little progress even after Nirbhaya's death.

 

[Green Patriot]

I am literally speechless.
What has the world come to.I shudder to think what she must have gone through in the last moments of her life.Some people are wolves disguised as humans.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Nothing will happen. You will see these jaahils all over the country doing protests if someone kills a cow but will not utter a single word if a 3 year old girl is raped. She was a muslim so that is not going to help her case either. Third class country.

 

[gani999]

Just yesterday


RIP little girl, sad that India is doing so poorly when it comes to gender violence. Indian society needs large scale reforms, unfortunately very little progress even after Nirbhaya's death.

I hope these inhuman criminals hang until death for doing this to a child.

That said, India needs to address the problem of mental illness, particularly in its Northern States. You only have to visit UP and Bihar to see how widespread the problem is. A fair percentage of the population is given to extreme mood swings, aggression at the smallest pretext and myriad other behavioural issues. Some of the behaviour one gets to see there is truly bizarre, and it all happens openly. Add to this the general notion that only weak and incapable people visit a psychiatrist, and you have a recipe for disaster.

 

[big_gamer007]

Thank you to moderators for keeping this thread clean.

Coming to topic now we need strictest of laws to deal with these maniacs. Until and unless we start making an example of these devils they won't have a fear of law. It doesn't help when active MP's go and visit rape accused people in jail and thank them for their support.

As an Indian I am ashamed of my countrymen for the direction this country is going in. The outrage and anger I used to have after hearing about every case of rape, over the years has turned into helplessness and shamefulness. Unless people stand up and make sure these criminals are given the strictest of punishment, nothing will change. A law needs to be passed that every rape case needs to be given a verdict within 3 months. And CBI or a special branch of CBI needs to handle every rape case, this body should be independent of any political influence and report directly to special branch of supreme court which handles only rape cases. This way any politican or political goon who commits a rape wont be able to influence the verdict. Start off by finishing the pending rape cases.
I am sure every Indian would be happy to give extra money from their salaries for special branch of CBI and Supreme court dealing with rape cases. We will be happy to find them even if government doesn't.

As a deterrence we need to have capital punishment to rape cases. A rape ruins not just 1 life but life of many people surrounding the victim. The least the victim and their family need is proper justice. If 1 bigiwg is sentence to death for rape then it will serve as a huge deterrence.

Next, we need education at various level. Sexual depravation is very common in India because of a closed culture. A lot of people are sexually frustrated and in some parts boys and girls talking is still considered a taboo. Government needs to tak on board psychologists and psychiatrists and understand what we as a country can do to prevent rapes.

There should be sexual frustration, depression and mental illness helplines opened where anyone can call for free and get proper counselling. If it's a serious case then clinical help should be provided.

All the babas and maulvis who comment on women's clothes as an excuse for rape need to be barred from preaching to public.

The mindset needs a massive overhaul, even today parents in cities ask their girls to be back before 8 Pm yet the same parents are OK if their son comes back late. One can understand if it's due to fear of safety of their daughter but in alot of cases it's because of the attitude "what will society say if daughter comes home late".

A lot of Indians say men and women are equal, however when the time comes to actually do what they preach they become hypocrites. If you believe men and women are actually equal then start from your home and start treating everyone equal.

There have been many heinous rapes in the past and after every rape we as Indians think this will be a catalyst which we as a society need to take action to prevent further rapes. However, after a few weeks protest everyone goes back to their normal lives and we hear an even worse kind of rape/murder story.

As Indians we need to ask, how long will we will let this continue? What if tomorrow it happens to someone in your family? Unless we wake up now this will continue to happen. All the online petitions are not helping, what will help?
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[cricketjoshila]

Thank you admins for cleaning up the thread.

Already govt has made the laws tougher and media is making sure more and more cases are reported.

All these cases are going to be fast tracked. As this is under POSCO.

 

[Civil]

Reading reports that one of the monsters was on bail from commiting attacks on children previously. Has relations in police departments which allowed him to get out light. Shocking just a failure on all fronts

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Reading reports that one of the monsters was on bail from commiting attacks on children previously. Has relations in police departments which allowed him to get out light. Shocking just a failure on all fronts

And still people think new law against rapists in India will change everything. Nothing will change. Those who think India is safe for women and young girls are delusional. You will find the most inhumane people here in India. Now watch how one of the desh bh@kht comes here and reminds me of how india is better than other countries for women. As I said earlier this is a third class society.

 

[Roaring40s]

And still people think new law against rapists in India will change everything. Nothing will change. Those who think India is safe for women and young girls are delusional. You will find the most inhumane people here in India. Now watch how one of the desh bh@kht comes here and reminds me of how india is better than other countries for women. As I said earlier this is a third class society.

Agree with you 100% on this count.

 

[sweep_shot]

What kind of person does this kind of crap? Raping a toddler?

How can these people sleep at night?

 

[Romali_rotti]

SO much I want to type on this but I wont because my post will get deleted.... I cant seem to calm the rage inside me, I just need calm down,, stay calmm.....

 

[Swashbuckler]

As a deterrence we need to have capital punishment to rape cases. A rape ruins not just 1 life but life of many people surrounding the victim. The least the victim and their family need is proper justice. If 1 bigiwg is sentence to death for rape then it will serve as a huge deterrence.

Well made points but are you sure capital punishment will have an effect? Don't you think that will encourage the rapists to kill the victim who is also the main witness?

I agree with Kavita Krishnan here.

Rape - Need gender-just laws, not death penalty: Kavita Krishnan

Since the brutal rape and torture of a 23-year-old which led to her death, several people, including politicians, want death penalty for rapists. But will it help?
I think people who are saying ‘death penalty’ essentially mean that the crime of rape is heinous and deserves the highest punishment (which in our existing laws is death penalty). Their slogans mean no less, no more, than ‘highest punishment for rape’ — it is a demand that the seriousness of the crime be recognised, and the impunity ended. As a women’s movement activist, I myself do not think death penalty for rape will help victims get justice. The question we need to ask about sexual violence laws is not ‘Are they severe enough?’ but ‘Are they gender-just enough?’ and ‘Are they firmly grounded in a recognition of women’s inalienable rights?’. Countries like Saudi Arabia have death penalty, death by stoning etc, but women there are denied equality and rights as citizens!

The real problem we face in sexual assault cases is the abysmal rate of conviction. A gender-just protocol for police investigation of gender-based crimes will ensure a 100 per cent conviction rate, as will changes in the laws to recognise the many kinds of sexual assault. The conviction rate has plummeted from 46 per cent in 1971 to 26 per cent in 2010 because of shoddy policing and investigation, and deeply-entrenched gender bias in our laws, our police force and our judiciary.

IC: Your comments on the ordinance on death sentence for accused of under 12 girls. The ordinance promises to tackle low conviction rate and delay in trials.

Kavita Krishnan: Death penalty is pure posturing for political gain and not to help any rape victim. The ordinance will create more dangerous situation for the victims of child sexual abuse. It is a well-known fact that vast majority of child sexual abusers are members of the same family, same community and so on. As it is, this is a great deterrent to reporting abuses; now death penalty will be a greater deterrent because family will not want their child or themselves to bear the pain of sending a close family member to the gallows. They will not take the risk.

As far as low conviction rate in such cases is concerned, it is due to the bias in investigation and prosecution. The whole process is hostile to the victim, although there are rules for giving protection to rape survivors and creating a sensitive atmosphere. The issue is about implementation of existing laws and not introducing a new law.

In the Kathua and Unnao cases, the political machinery was out to protect the accused which left the people high and dry. If a perpetrator thinks that he can be killed or he may go to the gallows or victim may complain against him, he is far more likely to kill the victim. So we are endangering the survivor of child sexual abuse.

IC: The Centre has always argued against the capital punishment in the past. But it has come up with an ordinance which recommends death penalty. Is death penalty really a solution?

It is not a solution at all. It is nothing but an attempt to distract the attention from the real issue of impunity provided by the powerful, state and other institutions to the accused. The tendency is to blame the victim and not the accused. The most dangerous is the way politics is being done to protect certain people wearing saffron colour or the powerful allegedly involved in rape cases of minors. It has happened in the case of Kathua and Asaram Bapu case when protest rallies were held in the support of accused.

NEW DELHI // India's president yesterday signed off on tough new laws to deal with sexual violence against women. But some women's rights groups say the government went too far when it included the death penalty for extreme cases, such as when the victim is killed.

Kavita Krishnan, the secretary of the All India Progressive Women's Association, said the version signed by the Indian president, Pranab Mukherjee, ignored recommendations against the death penalty made to cabinet by a committee set up to examine the issue.

The death penalty will encourage rapists to be more inclined to kill a victim "because she won't be able to testify", Ms Krishnan said yesterday.

"The severity of a sentence does not mean justice for women," she added. "The death penalty has never been central to what women's groups have been asking for. This is not going to help with justice in all cases."

She said the three-member committee did not recommend the death penalty, even in cases where a rape leads to death of the victim or leaves her in a "persistent vegetative state." Instead, she said, the report stated that "there is a strong submission that the seeking of the death penalty would be a regressive step in the field of sentencing and reformation".

The December 16 gang rape of a 23-year-old New Delhi student, who later died of her injuries, prompted nationwide outrage and demands to improve India's legal response to sexual violence against women.

In response, the government set up a three-member committee to examine the issue. It made recommendations to the Indian cabinet, which then passed its recommendations to Mr Mukherjee.

Stalking, voyeurism and acid attacks will now be considered punishable under criminal law. The minimum sentence for gang rape, rape of a minor, rape by policemen or a person in authority will be doubled to 20 years from 10, and can be extended to life without parole. Under the current law, a rapist faces a term of seven to 10 years. But committee recommendations to reclassify marital rape and the prosecution of armed forces personnel who commit sexual assaults, were not accepted.

Based on submissions by groups such as the Manipur Women Gun Survivors Network, the report by the committee recommended that security forces, such as those who patrol Kashmir and India's north eastern states, be brought under the authority of criminal law rather than army law to ensure that allegations of rape by soldiers are investigated and prosecuted.

"What kind of democracy is this where voices of 45 million people living in north-east India are denied justice on issues of rape and women's safety?" asked Binalakshmi Nepram, an activist and founder of the gun survivors network. "We had worked very hard and submitted our recommendations to [the] committee to ensure there is a special need to look at this [issue].

Ms Krishnan warned that the death penalty will make it even harder for rape victims to come forward. She saud that, in India, most rapes are committed by friends, relatives or acquaintances. Often, the family of the rapist and the community will pressure the victim to keep quiet or retract her statement.

"The pressure will be redoubled by the family to not file a complaint or pursue a court case, if it comes down to the fact that a relative who raped will be killed," Ms Krishnan said.

The new laws will go into effect if parliament ratifies them within within six weeks of the start of the next session, which begins February 21.

Last week, scores of protesters gathered near India's parliament demanding the death penalty for the six men accused in the student's death in December. The protesters carried placards saying, ``Give us Justice, Hang the Rapists,'' and shouted slogans before conducting a mock hanging of the men who are facing trial in a special court in New Delhi.

https://www.thenational.ae/world/asia/india-rape-laws-shouldn-t-include-death-penalty-1.578951

http://www.indiancurrents.org/interview-with-kavita-krishnan-2089.php

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For more detailed arguments on why death penalty for sexual crimes against children is a BAD idea, <a href="https://twitter.com/Manekagandhibjp?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Manekagandhibjp</a> please read <a href="https://t.co/tj2W1ia8HL">https://t.co/tj2W1ia8HL</a></p>— Kavita Krishnan (@kavita_krishnan) <a href="https://twitter.com/kavita_krishnan/status/984661830533431302?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[gani999]

As a deterrence we need to have capital punishment to rape cases.
All the online petitions are not helping, what will help?

I may be playing devil's advocate here but the death penalty is not going to work. In country after country and case after case, it has been proven time and again that capital punishment has little to no effect as a deterrent to crime. Lengthy jail terms won't work either. One only has to look at the US justice system, with its death rows and multiple life sentences, as an example. It isn't reducing crime one little bit.

I think that in India, given how much the average Indian man values his manhood or in many cases, even the perceived notion of it, an effective punishment for rape would be chemical castration. One can be sure that common sense would set in once the rampaging hormones have been silenced. Of course, death penalty can still be an option in cases where the victim loses her/his life.

 

[big_gamer007]

I may be playing devil's advocate here but the death penalty is not going to work. In country after country and case after case, it has been proven time and again that capital punishment has little to no effect as a deterrent to crime. Lengthy jail terms won't work either. One only has to look at the US justice system, with its death rows and multiple life sentences, as an example. It isn't reducing crime one little bit.

I think that in India, given how much the average Indian man values his manhood or in many cases, even the perceived notion of it, an effective punishment for rape would be chemical castration. One can be sure that common sense would set in once the rampaging hormones have been silenced. Of course, death penalty can still be an option in cases where the victim loses her/his life.

Well made points but are you sure capital punishment will have an effect? Don't you think that will encourage the rapists to kill the victim who is also the main witness?

I agree with Kavita Krishnan here.

Rape - Need gender-just laws, not death penalty: Kavita Krishnan







https://www.thenational.ae/world/asia/india-rape-laws-shouldn-t-include-death-penalty-1.578951

http://www.indiancurrents.org/interview-with-kavita-krishnan-2089.php

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For more detailed arguments on why death penalty for sexual crimes against children is a BAD idea, <a href="https://twitter.com/Manekagandhibjp?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Manekagandhibjp</a> please read <a href="https://t.co/tj2W1ia8HL">https://t.co/tj2W1ia8HL</a></p>— Kavita Krishnan (@kavita_krishnan) <a href="https://twitter.com/kavita_krishnan/status/984661830533431302?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Arab world has strict laws and crime rate is pretty less there. Even Indians/Pakistanis/BD who go to Arab world respect their laws and don't indulge in any crime.

Even if death penalty won't stop rapes 100%, IMO it will still act as a deterrence and reduce the rate of rapes. However for it to be effective the laws need to be implemented properly and justice need to be served in a timely manner.

That's why I suggested independent CBI branch and supreme court branch for rape cases.

If one high profile rape convict is brought to timely justice it will help a lot in being a strong deterrent.

In addition to that let me clarify, I am not saying death penalty is the ONLY deterrent. It's just a start, the problem of rape is about the mindset which needs to be tackled as well.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

India is a messed up society where people know how to manipulate rules and laws. It all comes down to how much money you have. Nothing will change. Court will take 10 years to give death penalty. You will also see a rise in false rape cases. And there will be no laws to counter that.

 

[big_gamer007]

India is a messed up society where people know how to manipulate rules and laws. It all comes down to how much money you have. Nothing will change. Court will take 10 years to give death penalty. You will also see a rise in false rape cases. And there will be no laws to counter that.

There have been times when I have given up hope as well. Never let evil win my friend. If everyone gives up hope we will dwelve into a much deeper hole.

 

[Syed1]

Real face of India

 

[nextover666666]

India is not a safe country at all omg poor girl and her family that had to go through this my god help India and it's people what kind of person would do this

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Well made points but are you sure capital punishment will have an effect? Don't you think that will encourage the rapists to kill the victim who is also the main witness?

I agree with Kavita Krishnan here.

Rape - Need gender-just laws, not death penalty: Kavita Krishnan







https://www.thenational.ae/world/asia/india-rape-laws-shouldn-t-include-death-penalty-1.578951

http://www.indiancurrents.org/interview-with-kavita-krishnan-2089.php

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For more detailed arguments on why death penalty for sexual crimes against children is a BAD idea, <a href="https://twitter.com/Manekagandhibjp?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Manekagandhibjp</a> please read <a href="https://t.co/tj2W1ia8HL">https://t.co/tj2W1ia8HL</a></p>— Kavita Krishnan (@kavita_krishnan) <a href="https://twitter.com/kavita_krishnan/status/984661830533431302?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Good points but society will adjust with rape victims getting bolder about complaining.

If prosecution is strong with no death penalty, do you think rapists won't kill the child then?

Death is needed to exterminate the vermin.

Death is justice.

The main issue is our pathetically slow and Corrupt judiciary. Thats the bottleneck.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Hell on earth

 

[szrana]

Just another regular occurrence in a third world hellhole.