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Multan Sultans have emerged as the chokers of the PSL, having lost their third consecutive final against Islamabad United in PSL 9. While they claimed their first title in 2021, subsequent qualifications for the finals in 2022, 2023, and now again in 2024 have ended in defeat against Islamabad United. It is evident that they have become chokers in the history of the PSL.

Now, if I analyze why Multan Sultans lost three finals in a row, it's primarily due to poor performances of Khushdil Shah, Shahnawaz Dahani, and a lack of trust in emerging talent.

Mohammad Rizwan's individual performance in finals is as follows:

- PSL final 2022: 14 runs off 12 balls
- PSL final 2023: 34 runs off 23 balls
- PSL final 2024: 26 runs off 26 balls

Looking at Khushdil Shah performances:

In PSL 2022, Khushdil Shah scored 153 runs with a highest score of 32 in 12 matches

In PSL 2023, Khushdil Shah managed 72 runs in 11 matches with a highest score of 25

In PSL 2024, Khushdil Shah scored 68 runs in 10 matches with a highest score of 28*

Regarding Shahnawaz Dahani's performance:

In PSL 2022, Dahani was impressive with 17 wickets in 11 matches at an economy rate of 9.33

In PSL 2023, he played only 1 match and took 1 wicket conceding 40 runs

In PSL 2024, he only managed to take 1 wicket in 4 matches

It's evident that, apart from Abbas Afridi, Multan Sultans haven't invested in nurturing other emerging talents.

What's your take? Despite consistently reaching the finals and dominating the tournament, they seem unable to clinch the trophy. Any thoughts on why?


 
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I don’t really see it that way. There are many teams better than them on paper yet MS always outperforms and end up the first or second best team each season.
 
Do people really want Rizwan to captain the T20I side after he has bottled three consecutive PSL finals?

Getting to the finals is no small achievement that also 4 times in a row.
 
They are not chockers they are just led by a rubbish captain

They reason for Multans success early in the tournament is most teams take some time to acclimatise whereas Rizwan to his credit is good at martialing his troops early on. However as the tournament progresses and players get into form, captaincy becomes more important. As we can see in the last 3 seasons of the PSL, when it matters most Rizwan fails

A pathetic leader
 
Rizwan with those field placings for Jordan in the penultimate over and we have fans here who want him to be Pakistan captain :ROFLMAO:

He also choked with the bat and could only deliver 26 off 26 balls but @PakPremi will tell you "this is a good innings".

3 back-to-back PSL finals have all been bottled by him.

Rizwan's captaincy credentials have been debunked and now belong to the dustbin.
 
Getting to the finals is no small achievement that also 4 times in a row.
Not a big achievement when you have consistently had the strongest squad and the most well-organized, professionally run franchise.

The Tareens have done a brilliant job with Multan. They looked at the failures of the original owner and also identified the weaknesses of other franchises and developed a very robust ownership model.

In other words, the Multan owners have given Rizwan everything he needs to be successful and he has bottled three finals in a row. Multan has gone empty-handed for three seasons in a row in spite of having the strongest squad and it is all on Rizwan's head.

A competent captain would have won at least two of the three finals that he has lost. Rizwan wouldn't be able to do jack with a weak franchise. He has been exposed as a captain and he should be out of the running for Pakistan white ball captaincy.
 
Not a big achievement when you have consistently had the strongest squad and the most well-organized, professionally run franchise.

The Tareens have done a brilliant job with Multan. They looked at the failures of the original owner and also identified the weaknesses of other franchises and developed a very robust ownership model.

In other words, the Multan owners have given Rizwan everything he needs to be successful and he has bottled three finals in a row. Multan has gone empty-handed for three seasons in a row in spite of having the strongest squad and it is all on Rizwan's head.

A competent captain would have won at least two of the three finals that he has lost. Rizwan wouldn't be able to do jack with a weak franchise. He has been exposed as a captain and he should be out of the running for Pakistan white ball captaincy.
They have a very well ran team but they are no where close to having the strongest squad.

The only team they’re definitely stronger than, on paper, is the Karachi Kings.
 
He was captaining well throughout the tournament but certainly under-performed today especially as a batsman. Three finals in a row, now I have my doubts as to whether he's good enough for Pak captaincy
 
Rizwan chokes again in a final. We have seen this happening multiple times now.
 
He was captaining well throughout the tournament but certainly under-performed today especially as a batsman. Three finals in a row, now I have my doubts as to whether he's good enough for Pak captaincy
Lol

You will change your stance the next time he scores a 40 ball 50.
 
Pakistani captaincy credentials tbh are better guaged with captaincy in ODI and List A, 4 day cricket. T-20 cricket is not really a strong indicator of captaincy credentials, the format is hit and miss for the most part. Dhoni was a good ODI and T-20 captain but was always found wanting captaining in test cricket.
 
Yeah but they don’t want Babar as captain either mate
Worst captains in PSL in the last few years - no particular order:

Imad, Shan and Rizwan

Babar led his weak bowling resources beautifully in this edition. Opening the bowling with Saim was a tactical genius move that proved to be the surprise factor of the tournament. He took the highest number of wickets in PP overs and nobody knew anything about his bowling prior to this tournament.

Based on this, my recommendation would be to reinstate Babar as captain if it doesn't work out for Shaheen.
 
No one has real ability to captain a national side, all are equally rubbish strategically. So let any take it !
 
Worst captains in PSL in the last few years - no particular order:

Imad, Shan and Rizwan

Babar led his weak bowling resources beautifully in this edition. Opening the bowling with Saim was a tactical genius move that proved to be the surprise factor of the tournament. He took the highest number of wickets in PP overs and nobody knew anything about his bowling prior to this tournament.

Based on this, my recommendation would be to reinstate Babar as captain if it doesn't work out for Shaheen.

Track record brother, Babar has already had 4-5 years as captain. Let him play freely as a player. There are other candidates who can take over the captaincy now.
 
They've lost three finals in a row now. I don't think you can put that all on the captain. But they do need to ask some questions. Because the last two finals were very close and Multan just couldn't get it done.
 
Rizwan completely bottled the match. And to have bottled it 3 times in a row is crazy. Shouldn't be Pakistan captain as of now unless circumstances change. You should be defending 31 off 17 against Imad and Naseem. Time and time again we've seen Imad and Naseem tonking length deliveries in their careers but not once did anyone bowl short pitch stuff to either of them. The one delivery Ali bowled short, he got Naseem out. The captain has to take the blame.

However, this doesn't mean that Shadab should be captain. Shadab is a match-bottler in his own right. A proper railu-katta who can't bowl and can't bat. Pakistan has serious dearth of quality captains. Might as well stick with Shaheen.
 
Losing 3 Finals in a row should naturally result in a leadership change to see if someone new can see them over the line.

He has captained well but 3 failures at the end is quite significant.
 
Losing 3 Finals in a row should naturally result in a leadership change to see if someone new can see them over the line.

He has captained well but 3 failures at the end is quite significant.
I’m not sure why you see it that way.

Before Rizwan took over, MS had never even made it to a final. Suddenly, he takes over and they win a final and then make 3 more consecutive finals. This is despite MS never having the strongest batting or bowling lineups.

If anything, MS has consistently over performed what has been expected of them. If they want to improve further they will probably need to pick up a couple new players.
 
Now, if I analyze why Multan Sultans lost three finals in a row, it's primarily due to poor performances of Khushdil Shah, Shahnawaz Dahani, and a lack of trust in emerging talent.

Mohammad Rizwan's individual performance in finals is as follows:

- PSL final 2022: 14 runs off 12 balls
- PSL final 2023: 34 runs off 23 balls
- PSL final 2024: 26 runs off 26 balls

Looking at Khushdil Shah performances:

In PSL 2022, Khushdil Shah scored 153 runs with a highest score of 32 in 12 matches

In PSL 2023, Khushdil Shah managed 72 runs in 11 matches with a highest score of 25

In PSL 2024, Khushdil Shah scored 68 runs in 10 matches with a highest score of 28*

Regarding Shahnawaz Dahani's performance:

In PSL 2022, Dahani was impressive with 17 wickets in 11 matches at an economy rate of 9.33

In PSL 2023, he played only 1 match and took 1 wicket conceding 40 runs

In PSL 2024, he only managed to take 1 wicket in 4 matches

It's evident that, apart from Abbas Afridi, Multan Sultans haven't invested in nurturing other emerging talents.
 
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They have a very well ran team but they are no where close to having the strongest squad.

The only team they’re definitely stronger than, on paper, is the Karachi Kings.
They had a few injuries and still got to the final.
 
Kudos to Rizwan, such a fantastic captain. He's head and shoulders above the rest and is very proactive. On another day the promotions of Willey and Usama Mir could have paid off.
 
Worst captains in PSL in the last few years - no particular order:

Imad, Shan and Rizwan

Babar led his weak bowling resources beautifully in this edition. Opening the bowling with Saim was a tactical genius move that proved to be the surprise factor of the tournament. He took the highest number of wickets in PP overs and nobody knew anything about his bowling prior to this tournament.

Based on this, my recommendation would be to reinstate Babar as captain if it doesn't work out for Shaheen.
Shaheen should stay captain for 2 years at least and if he fails, we can move on to someone new. Not Babar who was given 4 years!
 
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Kudos to Rizwan, such a fantastic captain. He's head and shoulders above the rest and is very proactive. On another day the promotions of Willey and Usama Mir could have paid off.
Not sure about his captaincy, but be it Asia Cup final, World cup final, or PSL final - Rizwan's choke is constant. Either he chokes or he bats really slow and eats a lot of balls. Mental midget.
 
Now, if I analyze why Multan Sultans lost three finals in a row, it's primarily due to poor performances of Khushdil Shah, Shahnawaz Dahani, and a lack of trust in emerging talent.

Mohammad Rizwan's individual performance in finals is as follows:

- PSL final 2022: 14 runs off 12 balls
- PSL final 2023: 34 runs off 23 balls
- PSL final 2024: 26 runs off 26 balls

@Rana

Rizwan is a choker on the big stage. Look at these performances in finals.
 
How are Multan chokers when they have won twice?

The chokers are KK and PZ because they cant manage to win again.

MS under Rizwan has maitained consisstent level of performance in every PSL
 
Shaheen should stay captain for 2 years at least and if he fails, we can move on to someone new. Not ghissa pitta Babar who was given 4 years!
Babar 2.0 is a proper captain. I saw some stuff in this PSL that I didn’t see before.

He is ready to be captain again. I will start by reappointing him as Test captain.
 
Standard Rizwan performance

He’s wasted 4 years of Pakistan’s cricket by just being available for T20 cricket

We can't have him captaining the Pakistan team. In T20s, he'll want to open.

I can't believe such a player has a cult following on here. At least Imad is made for the big stage.
 
@Rana

Rizwan is a choker on the big stage. Look at these performances in finals.
Its not just the PSL finals. Asia Cup final vs SRL, WC T20 Final vs Australia. He choked, played a pathetic slow innings and destroyed Pakistan's chances.
 
MS under Rizwan has maitained consisstent level of performance in every PSL

You're not wrong, here are Rizwan's batting performances in the last 3 x finals:

- PSL final 2022: 14 runs off 12 balls
- PSL final 2023: 34 runs off 23 balls
- PSL final 2024: 26 runs off 26 balls
 
You're not wrong, here are Rizwan's batting performances in the last 3 x finals:

- PSL final 2022: 14 runs off 12 balls
- PSL final 2023: 34 runs off 23 balls
- PSL final 2024: 26 runs off 26 balls

At least he gets to finals. Carries a weak team and gets the best out of them.
 
You're not wrong, here are Rizwan's batting performances in the last 3 x finals:

- PSL final 2022: 14 runs off 12 balls
- PSL final 2023: 34 runs off 23 balls
- PSL final 2024: 26 runs off 26 balls
He is getting Multan to the finals and his team has won PSLs. Captaincy is not only about personal performance by how you lead.

Now Shadab is the captain of Islamabad, but his performance was garbage and only won cause of Imad.

The choker tag is more associate with PZ and KK
 
Its not just the PSL finals. Asia Cup final vs SRL, WC T20 Final vs Australia. He choked, played a pathetic slow innings and destroyed Pakistan's chances.

Oh yes, I remember very well. The Asia Cup final should have been the straw that broke the camel's back with regards to the outlook of the RizBar opening combination.
 
We can't have him captaining the Pakistan team. In T20s, he'll want to open.

I can't believe such a player has a cult following on here. At least Imad is made for the big stage.
Bro the issue with Pakistan at the moment is that they are happy to eat dirt if that’s what the majority wants

The “majority” seem to be completely off the rails at the moment. They know what they want as a majority is wrong, but it’s just that they want their guy to be in the position to overtake the guy they don’t want or don’t like.

Rizwan needs to be captain for them just in case Pakistan fluke the tournament as the winner, and then that majority can remind you for the next 100 years that he was the greatest captain in the history of the country.
 
Bro the issue with Pakistan at the moment is that they are happy to eat dirt if that’s what the majority wants

The “majority” seem to be completely off the rails at the moment. They know what they want as a majority is wrong, but it’s just that they want their guy to be in the position to overtake the guy they don’t want or don’t like.

Rizwan needs to be captain for them just in case Pakistan fluke the tournament as the winner, and then that majority can remind you for the next 100 years that he was the greatest captain in the history of the country.

This mindset has prevailed all because of Misbah. He's the one that has brainwashed these fans.He's made Pakistan cricket soft and promoted the culture of stat padding and milestone chasing. Babar and Rizwan are following their mentor, who set this precedent during the 2011 World Cup during that dreaded Mohali Semi-Final game, when he came out to bat. Anyone with just an elementary understanding of cricket who watched Misbah's innings ball-by-ball would come to the conclusion that he was playing for his place in the side rather than the best interests of the team. This continued throughout his career and this selfish approach with the bat is the very reason why he never managed to score a single hundred in ODI cricket.

Two years after Pakistan saw the back of Misbah in white ball cricket they managed to win an ICC tournament, which featured 3 x players who had the mental attributes to perform when the stakes were high.

If you look at all the players in Pakistan cricket, you'll find there are only three players, who actually possess elite mentality. They are Imad, Amir and Fakhar.
 
Babar and rizwan are off the same mould as captains. No different, same mould players as well although rizzu is more funny and more trollish
 
Babar and rizwan are off the same mould as captains. No different, same mould players as well although rizzu is more funny and more trollish
um noo.

There is a massive difference between both in captaincy.

First of, Rizwan knows how to make his changes and never places himself in a situation where he is forced to bowl a bowler. Babars biggest issue was that he would always corner himself in being in a situation where he would just not bothered to bowl his 5th bowlers full qouta and than end up using that bowler during the death overs. Rizwan makes sure to use 6 bowler so that he doesnt end up in such a situation.

Than Rizwan is active in the field. He makes the field changes regularly. Babar had no idea what field to set up and was always half asleep..

Rizwan also has better leadership skills, he doesnt make cringe babar like speeches, tu mayra match winner hai.

Rizwan learned captaincy from SNGPL.
 
um noo.

There is a massive difference between both in captaincy.

First of, Rizwan knows how to make his changes and never places himself in a situation where he is forced to bowl a bowler. Babars biggest issue was that he would always corner himself in being in a situation where he would just not bothered to bowl his 5th bowlers full qouta and than end up using that bowler during the death overs. Rizwan makes sure to use 6 bowler so that he doesnt end up in such a situation.

Than Rizwan is active in the field. He makes the field changes regularly. Babar had no idea what field to set up and was always half asleep..

Rizwan also has better leadership skills, he doesnt make cringe babar like speeches, tu mayra match winner hai.

Rizwan learned captaincy from SNGPL.
Wdym? Rizwan makes cringe speeches all the time?

His sometimes acting speech was hilarious?

I watched the highlights yesterday and this psl on how he was taking reviews and where he was placing jordan on the field. No thanks man I'm good.
 
Wdym? Rizwan makes cringe speeches all the time?

His sometimes acting speech was hilarious?

I watched the highlights yesterday and this psl on how he was taking reviews and where he was placing jordan on the field. No thanks man I'm good.
Taking a good or bad review doesnt label your captaincy.

Captaincy depends upon bowling changes and fielder placement and decisions you make. He utilizes the likes of Khushdil and Ifitkhar as 6th and 7th bowlers better than anyone else. He was playing a PSL without a strike bowler, yet made it to the finals till the last ball of the tournament.

This was Shadabs first PSL final. Rizwan has played 4 psl finals and has won 2.
 
Wdym? Rizwan makes cringe speeches all the time?

His sometimes acting speech was hilarious?

I watched the highlights yesterday and this psl on how he was taking reviews and where he was placing jordan on the field. No thanks man I'm good.
But he learned captaincy at SNGL…..under Misbah…that’s all that matters bro…you should get it
 
But he learned captaincy at SNGL…..under Misbah…that’s all that matters bro…you should get it
you did not answer the question, and ran off.

Can Azam Khan make a good enough dive as Rizwan?
 
Taking a good or bad review doesnt label your captaincy.

Captaincy depends upon bowling changes and fielder placement and decisions you make. He utilizes the likes of Khushdil and Ifitkhar as 6th and 7th bowlers better than anyone else. He was playing a PSL without a strike bowler, yet made it to the finals till the last ball of the tournament.

This was Shadabs first PSL final. Rizwan has played 4 psl finals and has won 2.
We shall see his captaincy in the world cup. Results matter. I don't either to be unfair, so I'll give rizwan a leeway till 2027 wc, since I assume he'll become an all format captain eventually.

If he cam change the team or win even a single cup during that time period, I'll concede.
 
Rizwan has been consistent and took Multan to finals but when it comes to winning it, he fell short 3 times in a row now. He should have won at least 2 of them. out of 9 seasons, choked in the 3 finals, enough to label them as choked.
 
I’m not sure why you see it that way.

Before Rizwan took over, MS had never even made it to a final. Suddenly, he takes over and they win a final and then make 3 more consecutive finals. This is despite MS never having the strongest batting or bowling lineups.

If anything, MS has consistently over performed what has been expected of them. If they want to improve further they will probably need to pick up a couple new players.
I'm not denying that he has done a good job. I think after 3 failures in a row it's just good practice to open things up and get some fresh perspective.

From a captaincy perspective I'd imagine that psychologically going forward Rizwan will be operating to try and get the monkey of losing finals off his back. It's only natural but that's not a healthy position for the leader of the team to be in.

I haven't watched many other franchise leagues to see how these things are dealt with but from my own business experience it would be completely normal to bring someone else into the role....that doesn't mean that the Rizwan has done a bad job. He has done well and laid the foundations but perhaps it's time for someone else to build upon them.
 
This mindset has prevailed all because of Misbah. He's the one that has brainwashed these fans.He's made Pakistan cricket soft and promoted the culture of stat padding and milestone chasing. Babar and Rizwan are following their mentor, who set this precedent during the 2011 World Cup during that dreaded Mohali Semi-Final game, when he came out to bat. Anyone with just an elementary understanding of cricket who watched Misbah's innings ball-by-ball would come to the conclusion that he was playing for his place in the side rather than the best interests of the team. This continued throughout his career and this selfish approach with the bat is the very reason why he never managed to score a single hundred in ODI cricket.

Two years after Pakistan saw the back of Misbah in white ball cricket they managed to win an ICC tournament, which featured 3 x players who had the mental attributes to perform when the stakes were high.

If you look at all the players in Pakistan cricket, you'll find there are only three players, who actually possess elite mentality. They are Imad, Amir and Fakhar.
Funny how both misbah and rizwan lost an Asia cup final each against sri lanka
 
Chokers in the final stages of the tournament isn't a bad thing to be honest.

Karachi and quetta would love to be in that position
 
Felt like the wicket didn't really suit their attack, I don't think it was a case of choking. Their success has been based on the seam bowling of Mohammad Ali and to a lesser extent Abbas Afridi. When there is nothing in it for a pacer then their overs are basically useless.
 
I wont consider that game a choke for Multan, they fought until the last ball and one team has to lose, so I will call it just a bad luck.
 
Funny how both misbah and rizwan lost an Asia cup final each against sri lanka

Also explains why almost all Misbah fans are also Rizwan fans. Fans with a loser mentality follow serial losers wherever they go.
 
Andy Flower mentioned a year or so ago that Rizwan isn't very receptive to data and goes more by his gut feeling and is usually very confident with what he wants to do. But since he hasn't had success in last 3 finals, think he need to become more inclusive and broaden his approach by taking data into consideration before making crucial decisions.
Apart from that, he does marshal his players well and get them to play together as a team even though MS picks aren't usually the best. And Khushdil and Iftikhar need to spend more time playing domestic cricket (FC and LA). How Iftikhar is saved for only pacers and Khushdil still not being able to play anything towards offside is a shame.
 
It’s Chacha. If they kick him out of the team! Multan will win next 7 psl also they can defeat any ipl team. Thats how useless Chacha is
 
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I don't consider that choking one bit, if anything that's absolutely crazy to make finals 4 years in a row and winning one of them, very impressive.
 
It’s Chacha. If they kick him out of the team! Multan will win next 7 psl also they can defeat any ipl team. Thats how useless Chacha is
Chacha is not the one you think he is. Iffi won PSL with Multan, Peshawar, Islamabad, and Karachi. He played a vital part in the death overs for Multan and bowled some economical spells as well. Multan lost a game that went down to the last ball.
 
Also explains why almost all Misbah fans are also Rizwan fans. Fans with a loser mentality follow serial losers wherever they go.
Yeah that's one thing I never understood.

All rizwan fans are also misbah fans. I've never in my life come across a person who like rizwan but hates misbah or vice versa.

Same with imad and Babar, never come across a person who either likes both or hates both 😂.
 
How are Multan chokers when they have won twice?

The chokers are KK and PZ because they cant manage to win again.

MS under Rizwan has maitained consisstent level of performance in every PSL

Taking a good or bad review doesnt label your captaincy.

Captaincy depends upon bowling changes and fielder placement and decisions you make. He utilizes the likes of Khushdil and Ifitkhar as 6th and 7th bowlers better than anyone else. He was playing a PSL without a strike bowler, yet made it to the finals till the last ball of the tournament.

This was Shadabs first PSL final. Rizwan has played 4 psl finals and has won 2.
When was the 2nd time?
 
When was the 2nd time?
He was on the bench for Karachi Kings in 2020

Imad Wasim was being pressured to pick him but Imad stuck to his team and combination that was working for him.
 
He was on the bench for Karachi Kings in 2020

Imad Wasim was being pressured to pick him but Imad stuck to his team and combination that was working for him.
I know rizwan was on the bech when KK won but @Major is referring to MS as two times champions.
 
losing 3 finals is somewhat of a choke TBH. Should have won at least 1 of them.
 
I don't think people understand what choke means.

2022 they lost by 42 runs, they got outplayed clearly. That's an L no question

2023 and 2024, they lost by 1 run and 2 wickets both off the last ball. That's not choking, that's just cricket, a game of margins and it could have easily gone the other way. That's just life. I wouldn't call that choking.

I'm not even a big fan of Rizwan but I would not call him or Multan chokers
 
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