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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HBLPSL?src=hash">#HBLPSL</a> congratulates Schon Group on meeting the reserve price of $5.2 m per year for the 6th team <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Multan?src=hash">#Multan</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AbKhel6Ka?src=hash">#AbKhel6Ka</a></p>— PakistanSuperLeague (@thePSLt20) <a href="https://twitter.com/thePSLt20/status/870272894156193792">June 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Sold to Schon group for $5.2 million per year. Double than that of Karachi.
 
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I wonder if PCB has a clause where they can buy back the teams, imagine the price they can get for Karachi and Lahore now

I feel like Karachi may have fallen in price because of the ill-performance. The biggest risers would definitely be Quetta and Peshawar.
 
I feel like Karachi may have fallen in price because of the ill-performance. The biggest risers would definitely be Quetta and Peshawar.

Quetta may have risen in value. But Karachi and Lahore will not have fallen in price and will still be the most desirable franchises. They are the biggest markets regardless of their performance. They are like Manchester United, it's not all about the performance it's also about the market they're in and the high number of people that follow them.
 
I feel like Karachi may have fallen in price because of the ill-performance. The biggest risers would definitely be Quetta and Peshawar.

Price is little to do with performance and more with target market size
 
Anyways good decision.

Multan deserves representation.

Thankfully no clownish decision of giving it to some Ajk city or FATA wasn't taken
 
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Ideally would have like to see Sialkot (considering sialkot stallions' record in domestic tournaments) in the PSL but Multan is also a very good choice. $5.2 million per year is pretty impressive.
 
I feel like Karachi may have fallen in price because of the ill-performance. The biggest risers would definitely be Quetta and Peshawar.

It's not much price. Karachi or Lahore current price should be near 7 million dollars.
 
So many annoying people asking for 'Kashmir" team on Facebook and twitter. Does not make any sense to have team from there.
 
Truth is that franchises and also PCB is not willing for azad Kashmir as it may completely nullify the prospect of PSL broadcast in India
 
Anyways good decision.

Multan deserves representation.

Thankfully no clownish decision of giving it to some Ajk city or FATA wasn't taken

IMO, Sialkot deserved it more since it is Pakistan's sports industry hub and also Sialkot Stallion's record is very good in domestics.
 
I feel like Karachi may have fallen in price because of the ill-performance. The biggest risers would definitely be Quetta and Peshawar.

Don't think performance will have an effect on the value. It's a franchise tournament and the market matters more. Also, new owner can come in completely revamp the franchise in under a month. It won't be a deterent.
 
PSL's newest team is Multan, worth $41.6 million!..

The Pakistan Super League (PSL) on Thursday welcomed its newest outfit, Multan, which will feature in the third edition of the tournament to be held in 2018.

Dubai-based Schon Group met the reserve price of $5.2 million per year for an eight year contract, in a contest that had 10 bidders. The total contract is therefore worth $41.6 million.

Multan is Pakistan's fifth largest city. For its rich Islamic and Sufi tradition, it is known as the City of Saints.

Karachi Kings was until now the most expensive team, with the ARY Group purchasing it for $2.6m per year for 10 years.

The other teams of PSL Lahore Qalandars, Peshawar Zalmi, Islamabad United and Quetta Gladiators were purchased for $2.5m, $1.6m, $1.5m and $1.1m respectively.

The Schon group is managed and owned by Nasir Schon and his two sons, who have their family roots in Pakistan.

With the inclusion of a sixth team, the number of matches played in the PSL is also set to be increased. PSL Chairman Najam Sethi is aiming to host at least four matches of the PSL's third edition in Pakistan.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1336755/psls-newest-team-is-multan-worth-416-million
 
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Multan full deserved to have it's team in the PSL.Sialkot and Faisalabad also had a case in being the sixth franchise.I think they will be the next two franchises.
 
what is Schon group famous for?

Owner Nasir Schon is the 4th richest person in Pakistan with assets more than $ 1.5 Billion, which makes him the richest owner of all the PSL teams.
 
Good price but most important thing is More players will get a chance to play and get paid good money so they wont have to worry about money rest of the year and will concentrate on improving their game. lol more millionairs on the way 👌🏼
 
Congratulations to the Schon group for getting a good nut. :raja

I thing I would like to know here is why would you have a reserve price for getting a franchise? Chances would've been in a bid to get the team,owners might have outbidded another and hence more money.

I don't have an idea how it works so anyone here who can give some details.
 
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How the draft is going to happen? If it's not from scratch for every player, this team won't compete.
 
How the draft is going to happen? If it's not from scratch for every player, this team won't compete.

From what I have heard teams are allowed to retain upto 10 players from the previous edition.
 
From what I have heard teams are allowed to retain upto 10 players from the previous edition.

That's unfair to this team, unless there is transfer policy. If the other 5 teams blocks their 10 PAK players (Which I would have done, if permitted), this team can bring Starc, AB, Stokes & Tahir - still they'll play with 7 PAK players, who won't make even some decent FC teams.

Either, PCB has some other plan (could be transfer - like football league, or trading for money/player or future draft order - like North American sports), or there will be a fresh bid - otherwise, Multan will remain constant No. 6 for their entire period of contract.

Don't think someone would pay $42 mn, to be punching bag for a decade.
 
The team should have been renamed after FATA. We have all the other teams representing the major city of each province. Having Multan now breaks the rhythm.
 
The team should have been renamed after FATA. We have all the other teams representing the major city of each province. Having Multan now breaks the rhythm.

FATA would have been good but since Punjab has the largest population I guess 2 teams from Punjab is Ok.
 
The team should have been renamed after FATA. We have all the other teams representing the major city of each province. Having Multan now breaks the rhythm.

The people of Multan and Southern Punjab speak Seraiki and have been asking for a separate province for themselves for quite a while
 
That's unfair to this team, unless there is transfer policy. If the other 5 teams blocks their 10 PAK players (Which I would have done, if permitted), this team can bring Starc, AB, Stokes & Tahir - still they'll play with 7 PAK players, who won't make even some decent FC teams.

Either, PCB has some other plan (could be transfer - like football league, or trading for money/player or future draft order - like North American sports), or there will be a fresh bid - otherwise, Multan will remain constant No. 6 for their entire period of contract.

Don't think someone would pay $42 mn, to be punching bag for a decade.

Here,I would actually like to know why would you have a reserve price for getting a franchise? Chances would've been in a bid to get the team,owners might have outbidded each other and hence more money.

You seem to know quite a bit about marketing so do you know the strategy behind? I don't know much about bussinesses in these league so if you could help me out here.
 
Great stuff from Schon groups and nice name. Now karachi king owner will less cry about his how expensive

he have bought the team and blah blah
 
Here,I would actually like to know why would you have a reserve price for getting a franchise? Chances would've been in a bid to get the team,owners might have outbidded each other and hence more money.

You seem to know quite a bit about marketing so do you know the strategy behind? I don't know much about bussinesses in these league so if you could help me out here.



For the first, I think your question is how the price of a franchise can be maximized. I think, the best way is open bidding, build the PSL brand & then introduce new franchise - which, PCB is doing. The idea is - no body knew how successful PSL can be, therefore investors/owners were restrained to go in a bidding war. So, theoretically, had PCB phased it out over 10 years, they could have made more money - may be start with 4 teams & gradually increase up to 8. If the brand is bullish, each time the next franchise will be sold at much higher price. The risk in this model is that a flop PSL (or unstable market scenario - war, economic recession, declining mass interest, corruption ..) could have bankrupt PCB, because they can't manage overhead with 4/5 teams, neither can increase teams because of lack of interest from investors.

Second model can be what in used in US sports - they (take NBA) hardly increase franchise/team, but the participation right is sold for a particular period, after that one has renew with fees or sale their franchise to new owners; something like Minneapolis Lakers becoming LA Lakers (Laker brand was strong, so the owners relocated the franchise keeping same name), or Super Sonics at Seattle moved to Oklahoma as Thunders. What PCB has done is perfect - they covered initial risk with 5 franchise for 10 years contract (?) & once the PSL marketability is established introducing new teams at premium - after 10 years, with other economic factors going as expected, each franchise could be sold at 10X. But, they must maintain a check & balance between number of teams - to cash the market pull, if PCB introduces say 16 teams, quality will go down (& too many matches reducing the mass interest), which might kill the business prematurely. NBA can introduce another 30 teams (still big cities like Austin, Baltimore, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Nashville, Seattle, Las Vegas, St. Luis ...... don't have NBA team), but the result might end as a disaster. PCB has to find the optimum number of teams for best case scenario.

Second question is probably how the new franchise can come at per with the existing teams - this one simple, as I mentioned, either introduce a transfer market or trading system (i. e. ambitious owners will buy players contracted by existing franchise, paying fees to the club) or an annual free agent policy - every contract is for one season; new franchise can start the first season with equally strong team by hiring free agents. There can be mutual understanding between players & their franchise, but technically each player is free to move at the start of new season. This one again isn't helpful for new franchise in capped budget system (why a player will leave his current team to a new one for same money?). NBA uses cap to stop market blowing out of proportion, but they allow multi season contracts, bringing trading into equation.

Last question is probably, why Schon Property has spent so much & what's their marketing logic? To me, from business perspective - nothing. Real estate isn't a mass branding item; i. e. - it's not mass consumption product that one can bring economy of scale in mass brand campaigns, because the market is niche (selective) & it's not a bulk/repetitive purchase item. Rather, direct marketing strategy is used for products. You'll never see Boeing or Air Bus or Dessult or Bomberdier spending on their brands/communication - because their product (air craft), most likely won't be bought after watching ads pr logo on Barca shirt ..... The most expensive consumer product that is associated with consumer branding is probably automobile (car) - still you won't see much branding by Bugati, Ferrari, Koennigsegg, Lamborghini or Maybach - because, like real estate, their customer base is too small & they are more feature conscious. Instead of spending PR 450 crore on PSL, I probably would have hired 450 young graduates on salary & made their payment, at least 50% as direct commission from sales success - they'll also be happy to earn 12,000/month + allowances & a bonus of 50,000 in every 4/5 months for selling one apartment for 25,000,000.....

Why Schon Properties have spent so much then? Frankly speaking, every T20 franchise is a washing machine to clean some black money. I shouldn't talk about IPL or PSL, but I know many of the owners of BPL franchises ...... If I could do a civilized robbery of a bank (that's loan defaulter of 1 billion+), or I were a mafia boss of smuggling racket, illegal casino, brothel ... or I if were the son of a federal minister who handles lots of public expenses - I would have definitely bought a BPL franchise - even better, if it can push me to officially Bankrupt.
 
Players should be retained by franchises because it just brings loyalty towards a franchise and also reshuffling tends to disinterest fans. Lala fans would have a likening of zalmi bt now would be in two minds regarding supporting karachi or peshawar after afridi changed parties.
 
That's unfair to this team, unless there is transfer policy. If the other 5 teams blocks their 10 PAK players (Which I would have done, if permitted), this team can bring Starc, AB, Stokes & Tahir - still they'll play with 7 PAK players, who won't make even some decent FC teams.

Either, PCB has some other plan (could be transfer - like football league, or trading for money/player or future draft order - like North American sports), or there will be a fresh bid - otherwise, Multan will remain constant No. 6 for their entire period of contract.

Don't think someone would pay $42 mn, to be punching bag for a decade.

Yes official sources has given the following way:

All the previous teams will release atleast one player from each category and the new team will have the first turn for the each category.

I guess the new team will be pretty balanced like other teams as all the new players in the draft will also be available to them as they will have the first choice while all the released players from each category will also be available so they can make a good team by selecting the best of the lot.
 
If all the teams release one diamond, one gold,one silver, one emerging, I am not sure one platinum player is to be released or not but they can always buy a new available platinum player. So it will give them option of 5 diamond, 5 gold etc players to chose from which will make a very good team. As all the players in every team are pretty good so I am seeing a very good team by the draft time.
 
LHC reserves verdict regarding PSL’s 6th franchise

LAHORE: The Lahore High Court on Friday reserved verdict on a petition filed by Bin Zayed Group of UAE against non-consideration and rejection of its bid for Pakistan Super League's sixth franchise.

The single bench comprising Justice Shams Mahmood Mirza reserved the verdict after hearing arguments of the parties on the contempt and main petitions.

Earlier, petitioner's counsel argued that the court had directed the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to entertain bid of the petitioner but the board officials refused to allow the higher bid of the petitioner to be opened and the sixth franchise team of the PSL was sold for USD 41.6 million to Schon Group of Companies for eight years.

The counsel said that Bin Zayed Group (petitioner) had been offering USD 42.4 million for the said franchise. He said the petitioner was illegally denied bidding for the sixth team of PSL by the respondents. He said the respondents committed contempt of court by failing to entertain bid of the petitioner.

However, PCB's counsel Tuffazal Rizvi submitted that the board carried out the bidding process in a transparent and professional manner.

He said that the board received the petitioner's bid in compliance of court orders but petitioner's technical proposal was found to be non-compliant after evaluation.

The bid committee had no option but to disqualify the same and return their Financial Proposal unopened," he added. He pleaded the court to dismiss the petition.

The court after hearing the arguments reserved the verdict.

http://www.brecorder.com/2017/07/01/356615/lhc-reserves-verdict-regarding-psls-6th-franchise/
 
If all the teams release one diamond, one gold,one silver, one emerging, I am not sure one platinum player is to be released or not but they can always buy a new available platinum player. So it will give them option of 5 diamond, 5 gold etc players to chose from which will make a very good team. As all the players in every team are pretty good so I am seeing a very good team by the draft time.

Shouldn't release emerging players IMO.

Will give other,younger players a chance to play in the PSL,through the Multan franchise.
 
The upcoming draft is going to be different from the previous years and here is how it is going to be:

There will be a pre-draft before the actual draft in which Multan team will choose their 10 players-2 each from platinum,diamond and gold,3 from silver and 1 from emerging category.Then they will have the actual draft in which the usual drafting will take place with Multan given the last chance in every round of the draft.

Courtesy:Faisal Mirza.

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION],hopefully this answers your query and this is how it is going to be held this year.
 
The upcoming draft is going to be different from the previous years and here is how it is going to be:

There will be a pre-draft before the actual draft in which Multan team will choose their 10 players-2 each from platinum,diamond and gold,3 from silver and 1 from emerging category.Then they will have the actual draft in which the usual drafting will take place with Multan given the last chance in every round of the draft.

Courtesy:Faisal Mirza.

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION],hopefully this answers your query and this is how it is going to be held this year.

Multan having last pick in every round will make them very weak
 
Multan made most economic sense, they will get support of whole south punjab behind them.
 
Multan should pick:
Rashid khan
Muhammad Asif😀
Mark wood
Moeen Ali
Ahsan ali
Kamran ghulam
Shehzad azam rana
Atif jabbar
Nauman anwar
Umair masood
James anderson

This is a list of good players they can pick. Of jos buttler and warner are available then itll be even better
 
The upcoming draft is going to be different from the previous years and here is how it is going to be:

There will be a pre-draft before the actual draft in which Multan team will choose their 10 players-2 each from platinum,diamond and gold,3 from silver and 1 from emerging category.Then they will have the actual draft in which the usual drafting will take place with Multan given the last chance in every round of the draft.

Courtesy:Faisal Mirza.

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION],hopefully this answers your query and this is how it is going to be held this year.

I was expecting something similar - Multan'll be allowed to pick first 10 picks in draft & then it goes in circles. This should make Multan quite strong actually, if they have better scouts. I felt, in first 2 drafts, teams didn't do much homework and went for known faces, therefore there are few better players (PAK players) left out. Then, they didn't play few players after drafting (Amin, Md. Nabi comes to mind), who should leave for a secured spot in Multan. Finally, they should look for better foreign recruits than big names - hungry young players, who wants to make names trough PSL. Jason Mohammed, Sabbir, Mosaddek, Dickwella, Mendis, Gunaratne, Sean Williams, Sikandar Raja, Ashley Nurse, Luk Ronchi ... these players should be cheaper & better than Gayles & Mahelas now. May be, one top player like Amla or Bairstowe for branding & rest from this list.
 
I was expecting something similar - Multan'll be allowed to pick first 10 picks in draft & then it goes in circles. This should make Multan quite strong actually, if they have better scouts. I felt, in first 2 drafts, teams didn't do much homework and went for known faces, therefore there are few better players (PAK players) left out. Then, they didn't play few players after drafting (Amin, Md. Nabi comes to mind), who should leave for a secured spot in Multan. Finally, they should look for better foreign recruits than big names - hungry young players, who wants to make names trough PSL. Jason Mohammed, Sabbir, Mosaddek, Dickwella, Mendis, Gunaratne, Sean Williams, Sikandar Raja, Ashley Nurse, Luk Ronchi ... these players should be cheaper & better than Gayles & Mahelas now. May be, one top player like Amla or Bairstowe for branding & rest from this list.

This is a much better way of recruiting players than the usual draft which would've made Multan quite weak.

I am not too sure about the foreign recruits as you suggested.At the end of the day this is about money minting and marketing it properly is the top priority and more important than anything else.
 
This is a much better way of recruiting players than the usual draft which would've made Multan quite weak.

I am not too sure about the foreign recruits as you suggested.At the end of the day this is about money minting and marketing it properly is the top priority and more important than anything else.

At the end of the day what matters is win - by far the most popular 2 Franchise are KK & LQ .... and they had the biggest hunk one year each - and finished 4th/5th. Bringing Gayle or AB is good for marketing to start with, but after that all it matters is result.

People are not associated with players, rather associated with the club/franchise. Most fans, at the start, theoretically would love to see AB, Warner, Stokes & Strac as their 4 foreigners, but once the game starts - it hardly matters who is wearing the shirt, particularly if the team is performing.
 
Great news read about before but haven't posted about it. Honestly I would have loved to see Hyderabad just to troll the neighbours.

Imagine SunSetters Hyderabad :warner Then sign warner for that team and it would be perfect.
 
Heard that today is their kit and logo launch and some important announcements.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan Super League team Multan Sultans have named Tom Moody as their head coach <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HBLPSL?src=hash">#HBLPSL</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/911200206896664577">September 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Official logo of Multan Sultans:
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Just another team for KK to have the better off. *yaaawnnn*
 
Not sure why Multan Sultans should do a presentation in Karachi! Surely this should have been done in the city they were talking about in that presentation!
 
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