Name the most Trustworthy and Hypocrite people around the world

[The Bald Eagle]

The world is filled with people of every trait. Some people are true to their words and honor their promises and pledge. While there also exist some double-faced and hypocrites around the world who let alone honor their words, just keep breaking their promises.

So in your observation, which people are most Trustworthy and whom do you believe to be a bunch of chameleons

 

[The Bald Eagle]

@Bhaag Viru Bhaag @sweep_shot any observations

 

[sweep_shot]

@Bhaag Viru Bhaag @sweep_shot any observations

There are good and bad in every group I guess. I don't want to generalize.

Anyway, I have traditionally found East Asian people (Japanese, Chinese, Korean etc.) very trustworthy. Again, it is my personal experience. I am sure those countries have bad people also.

As far as hypocrisy go, zionists and sanghis top the list. No other group comes close.

 

[Hikaru]

From People I have worked/interacted with, Desis, Americans, Chinese and Russians have the least of my trust.

Germans, Dutch and Japanese have earned my highest trust over the years.

 

[Hikaru]

Biggest hypocrites for me would be an ideology (Islamists) and a nation (USA).

Everyone else atleast pretend to have a consistent moral compass, but these two groups are shamelessly blatant about their hypocrisy.

(I understand I'll get hate for this, but gotta keep things honest)

 

[sweep_shot]

From People I have worked/interacted with, Desis, Americans, Chinese and Russians have the least of my trust.

Germans, Dutch and Japanese have earned my highest trust over the years.

Japanese. Yeah. They are very honest and ethical.

I had a Japanese coworker about a decade ago. It was a pleasure to work with him. No politics. No ego.

I also had great experience with Chinese coworkers. At my last job, I had 5 desis and 1 Chinese in my team. 4 out of 5 desis were problematic; it was a pain to work with them. That Chinese girl was very easygoing and I got more things done when I was working with her.

 

[JaDed]

Europeans: Hypocrites

Most uneducated/medium educated rural folk: Trust worthy

 

[Hikaru]

Japanese. Yeah. They are very honest and ethical.

I had a Japanese coworker about a decade ago. It was a pleasure to work with him. No politics. No ego.

I also had great experience with Chinese coworkers. At my last job, I had 5 desis and 1 Chinese in my team. 4 out of 5 desis were problematic; it was a pain to work with them. That Chinese girl was very easygoing and I got more things done when I was working with her.

Perhaps Chinese in Canada or the US. I would trust American Indians too, but won't extend the same courtesy to ones working in Hyderabad or Bangalore. (This is strictly about my line of work, not overall)

 

[Hikaru]

Europeans: Hypocrites

Most uneducated/medium educated rural folk: Trust worthy

Take a tour of rural Punjab or UP some day brother, you are in for a shock.

 

[Vikram1989]

Aussies are quite straight forward. Very easy to deal and hard to satisfy as they are quite demanding. Iranians are quite arrogant but they got a great work ethic.least trustable should be our desi guys , Turkish and Chinese .

 

[sweep_shot]

Perhaps Chinese in Canada or the US. I would trust American Indians too, but won't extend the same courtesy to ones working in Hyderabad or Bangalore. (This is strictly about my line of work, not overall)

I trust all people (including Indians). But, based on my experience, Chinese/Korean/Japanese cause the least amount of issues. Almost no issue. They are model workers based on what I have seen.

Desis sadly get involved in petty politics. Not just Indians but Bangladeshis also do the same. My mother once had a Bangladeshi manager and she hated him. LOL. Anyway, that manager got fired apparently.

At my last job, I had a very nice Indian coworker (Gujarati girl). We were always nice to each other. I sadly encountered 2 other nasty Indians who were always petty.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Biggest hypocrites for me would be an ideology (Islamists) and a nation (USA).

Everyone else atleast pretend to have a consistent moral compass, but these two groups are shamelessly blatant about their hypocrisy.

(I understand I'll get hate for this, but gotta keep things honest)

@Hikaru I can bet you didn't know about this Islamic ideology but still you feel no shame to pass sweeping statement against it. Brother, I will ask you to study any aspect of it if not the whole ideology. I hope you see the light at the end of the tunnel

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Can we give examples from this forum? @The Bald Eagle

 

[JaDed]

Take a tour of rural Punjab or UP some day brother, you are in for a shock.

Unfortunately true.. maybe the least greedy people are most trustworthy

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Can we give examples from this forum? @The Bald Eagle

Sure brother...

 

[HalBass9]

Biggest hypocrites for me would be an ideology (Islamists) and a nation (USA).

Everyone else atleast pretend to have a consistent moral compass, but these two groups are shamelessly blatant about their hypocrisy.

(I understand I'll get hate for this, but gotta keep things honest)

No Hindutva has ever answered this, they always dodge it.

Who are the Islamists? every Muslim, is Irfan Pathan Islamist?

If you meant by radicalized religious extremists then how come not every Hindutva is hypocrite?

 

[Hikaru]

@Hikaru I can bet you didn't know about this Islamic ideology but still you feel no shame to pass sweeping statement against it. Brother, I will ask you to study any aspect of it if not the whole ideology. I hope you see the light at the end of the tunnel

You are right brother, I haven't studied the faith and not am I here to prove it's hypocrisy or anything. I am not educated enough so I don't know.

However I can't deny that I witnessed the most hypocrisy in the followers. Same acts are defended, ignored and villainized based on who is doing it.

This just fits my definition of hypocrisy, don't take it as an attack on religion because it was not. I am least bothered about proving other faiths wrong to feel better about my own, never been that kind of a person.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Sad thing is when doing business I find it difficult to trust a desi.

 

[JaDed]

Sad thing is when doing business I find it difficult to trust a desi.

That's because your sample size is higher, I always try not to work for a Desi consultancy or firm either but it doesn't mean White folks make it easy with their politics, they always fire the gun from your shoulder.

I think many people go through phases, I for one would had done unreasonable hours of work until age 32, now I just switch off after 5-6 pm.. this could mean someone who trusted me to do such work 5 years ago, can't trust me to put in the same amount anymore.

This is also true for blue collar jobs, someone in need will be different from someone that is steady and doesn't need the job as such.

 

[Hikaru]

No Hindutva has ever answered this, they always dodge it.

Who are the Islamists? every Muslim, is Irfan Pathan Islamist?

If you meant by radicalized religious extremists then how come not every Hindutva is hypocrite?

No. Just like other half of my answer didn't mean that all Desis/Chinese are dishonest, this didn't mean I see the entire group as hypocrites.

Hypocrites are everywhere, my response is about where I witness it the most. See it as something relative based on my observation rather than an attack.

 

[JaDed]

Aussies are quite straight forward. Very easy to deal and hard to satisfy as they are quite demanding. Iranians are quite arrogant but they got a great work ethic.least trustable should be our desi guys , Turkish and Chinese .

Turkish are surprisingly bad, not only are the extremely inappropriate (then men with women),they are also lazy. I somehow didn't expect that. I have had hit or miss with Chinese, same with Vietnamese.

 

[HalBass9]

No. Just like other half of my answer didn't mean that all Desis/Chinese are dishonest, this didn't mean I see the entire group as hypocrites.

Hypocrites are everywhere, my response is about where I witness it the most. See it as something relative based on my observation rather than an attack.

It's a bit hypocritical to selectively condemn one form of extremism while ignoring the other, especially when you're from a country where the odds of encountering radicalized Hindutva groups are far greater than coming across Islamist extremists. If the goal is to call out hypocrisy, it should be consistent across the board.

 

[Suleiman]

“Veggie” Vijays who want to lynch people for eating beef but then eat meat in private gatherings.

 

[Hikaru]

It's a bit hypocritical to selectively condemn one form of extremism while ignoring the other, especially when you're from a country where the odds of encountering radicalized Hindutva groups are far greater than coming across Islamist extremists. If the goal is to call out hypocrisy, it should be consistent across the board.

I could say the same, quite hypocritical to point me out when I am actually the one keeping my opinion respectfully and bothering to clear the air in case someone felt offended.

If you actually do find selective condemnation hypocritical, why don't you start with yourself and let my views be like you ignore the other side?

Besides read thread title, every critique of praise here is going to be selective. There's no other way to do it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Biggest hypocrites for me would be an ideology (Islamists) and a nation (USA).

Everyone else atleast pretend to have a consistent moral compass, but these two groups are shamelessly blatant about their hypocrisy.

(I understand I'll get hate for this, but gotta keep things honest)

You won't get hate bro, you are probably a hindutva, and most of them are world class hypocrites, so for you to have such views would tie in with how you are viewed by the rest of the world.

 

[LordJames]

The most rude, obnoxious, disrespectful people in the world are Israeli, if you have ever backpacked or stayed at Hostels you know.

Hindutva are cowards so they act sheepish, agree with anything and everything due to cowardice and don't discuss their true self

In order to observe Hindutva, you need to provide them:

• Anonymity: For example on forums or "Social Media live Q/A" and then you see these cowards become "braying Donkeys"​
• Support from State Machinery: Wherever you see Indian state machinery (Judiciary, Police, Paramilitary and military) supporting them you see the cowards turn into "braying Donkeys" and you see this scene played out all over India where everything combines​

Not even the most harshest and most vile Sanghi will air his (or her) views outside of India and will work in the corner in the office with their head down and profess to be:

1. Atheist in belief
2. "Cultural Hindus"

Experiment:

In the West, where there are masses of Hindus e.g Devon Avenue (Chicago) they gather in the hundreds and make a lot of noise (on celebrations), as a practicing Muslim (Sunnah Beard, clothes etc) just walk through literally hundreds of Hindu (closet) Sanghis and experience the cowardice of these hundreds of people.

In India, you will be beaten and lynched for walking.

If you want to send shivers of Terrors down the spine of hundreds of Hindu (closet) Sanghis just ask a little loudly "Excuse me! Whats going on while making eye contact with multiple people"...

So in my years of experience:​

1. Israeli: Entitled, obnoxious, dirty, rude...​
2. Hindutva: Cowards and hypocrites​

 

[JaDed]

The most rude, obnoxious, disrespectful people in the world are Israeli, if you have ever backpacked or stayed at Hostels you know.

Hindutva are cowards so they act sheepish, agree with anything and everything due to cowardice and don't discuss their true self

In order to observe Hindutva, you need to provide them:

• Anonymity: For example on forums or "Social Media live Q/A" and then you see these cowards become "braying Donkeys"​
• Support from State Machinery: Wherever you see Indian state machinery (Judiciary, Police, Paramilitary and military) supporting them you see the cowards turn into "braying Donkeys" and you see this scene played out all over India where everything combines​

Not even the most harshest and most vile Sanghi will air his (or her) views outside of India and will work in the corner in the office with their head down and profess to be:

1. Atheist in belief
2. "Cultural Hindus"

Experiment:

In the West, where there are masses of Hindus e.g Devon Avenue (Chicago) they gather in the hundreds and make a lot of noise (on celebrations), as a practicing Muslim (Sunnah Beard, clothes etc) just walk through literally hundreds of Hindu (closet) Sanghis and experience the cowardice of these hundreds of people.

In India, you will be beaten and lynched for walking.

If you want to send shivers of Terrors down the spine of hundreds of Hindu (closet) Sanghis just ask a little loudly "Excuse me! Whats going on while making eye contact with multiple people"...

So in my years of experience:​

1. Israeli: Entitled, obnoxious, dirty, rude...​
2. Hindutva: Cowards and hypocrites​

I lived near Addison for 2 years, used to go to Devon for desi groceries, are you saying Muslim people didn't celebrate their culture there and it was just the Hindus?

I've seen all desi folks celebrate over there something that i thought was pointless blocking the roads that carried buses at times, with crazy traffic.

 

[LordJames]

I lived near Addison for 2 years, used to go to Devon for desi groceries, are you saying Muslim people didn't celebrate their culture there and it was just the Hindus?

I've seen all desi folks celebrate over there something that i thought was pointless blocking the roads that carried buses at times, with crazy traffic.

My post isn't about celebration or blocking traffic and I agree that everyone who blocks traffic should be called out.

 

[Hikaru]

You won't get hate bro, you are probably a hindutva, and most of them are world class hypocrites, so for you to have such views would tie in with how you are viewed by the rest of the world.

We share similar views about each other, and about how the rest of the world views us. But I don't know why I am being made to feel like I commited a crime @Cpt. Rishwat . Kinda breaks my heart. </3

 

[Major]

Any muslim who portrays to be religious is the least trustworthy.

Canadians have to be the most honest and nicest people ever i came across

 

[HalBass9]

I could say the same, quite hypocritical to point me out when I am actually the one keeping my opinion respectfully and bothering to clear the air in case someone felt offended.

If you actually do find selective condemnation hypocritical, why don't you start with yourself and let my views be like you ignore the other side?

Besides read thread title, every critique of praise here is going to be selective. There's no other way to do it.

Explaining your hypocrisy doesn’t make it any less hypocritical. No one’s offended, why would anyone be, if you were actually speaking the truth? Just pointing out that almost all religious extremist groups are riddled with hypocrisy, including the one you evidently support.

 

[ElRaja]

having been involved at the sharp end of the business where i work over the last few years, i can unequivocally say desis some of the biggest time wasters, and angle shooters u can find. pakistanis and indians love hating on each other, but both groups have a lot of hypocrites obsessed with image and optics over actualy substance. im not saying all desis are bad business people, but by and large most bad clients tend to be desi in my experience.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Trustworthy - Sikhs, Jains. Most are.

Untrustworthy - beware of everyone else.

 

[Hikaru]

Explaining your hypocrisy doesn’t make it any less hypocritical. No one’s offended, why would anyone be, if you were actually speaking the truth? Just pointing out that almost all religious extremist groups are riddled with hypocrisy, including the one you evidently support.

Said that myself already, but thanks for repeating. So our only disagreement is our picks for the top spot. Don't think either of us needs to be called out for that choice, it's a personal pick.

 

[HalBass9]

Said that myself already, but thanks for repeating. So our only disagreement is our picks for the top spot. Don't think either of us needs to be called out for that choice, it's a personal pick.

You’re still not reading it correctly, and it circles back to my initial question.

Who are ‘Islamists’ to you? And since you’ve openly claimed and affirmed yourself as a devotee and supporter of Hindutva extremists, who exactly do you consider an ‘Islamist’? Is it every Muslim? is Irfan Pathan Islamist?

 

[LordJames]

having been involved at the sharp end of the business where i work over the last few years, i can unequivocally say desis some of the biggest time wasters, and angle shooters u can find. pakistanis and indians love hating on each other, but both groups have a lot of hypocrites obsessed with image and optics over actualy substance. im not saying all desis are bad business people, but by and large most bad clients tend to be desi in my experience.

What is an angle shooter?

 

[ElRaja]

What is an angle shooter?

its a poker term

Angle shooting is a tactic that walks the fine line between cheating and gamesmanship. Angle shooters use a variety of techniques to gain an edge, such as misleading statements about their hand, intentionally misplaying a hand, or exploiting a rule ambiguity.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

That's because your sample size is higher, I always try not to work for a Desi consultancy or firm either but it doesn't mean White folks make it easy with their politics, they always fire the gun from your shoulder.

I think many people go through phases, I for one would had done unreasonable hours of work until age 32, now I just switch off after 5-6 pm.. this could mean someone who trusted me to do such work 5 years ago, can't trust me to put in the same amount anymore.

This is also true for blue collar jobs, someone in need will be different from someone that is steady and doesn't need the job as such.

I am the same as you now in terms of switching off, although I probably switch off more as you can tell from the amount I have posted on PP in this past year.

When I interact with desis I know they are waiting for any opportunity to one up me. It makes me a bit more cautious. I work with a lot of Indians, and some Pakistanis, some of the sharpest and most hard working dudes, a pleasure to work with because of that, but I am constantly on guard because I wouldn't trust them to have my back.

 

[uppercut]

You’re still not reading it correctly, and it circles back to my initial question.

Who are ‘Islamists’ to you? And since you’ve openly claimed and affirmed yourself as a devotee and supporter of Hindutva extremists, who exactly do you consider an ‘Islamist’? Is it every Muslim? is Irfan Pathan Islamist?

Look in the mirror. Laughable that a specimen like you who brazenly supports your co-religionsts "right" to indulge in religious intolerance and bigotry is lecturing others.

 

[HalBass9]

Look in the mirror. Laughable that a specimen like you who brazenly supports your co-religionsts "right" to indulge in religious intolerance and bigotry is lecturing others.

As a free human, it is my right to eat whatever I wish too.

It is your right to indulge the cow's excrement.

Have you travelled back to India to slaughter non-Muslim Indians who were serving steak in the office?

 

[Vikram1989]

Turkish are surprisingly bad, not only are the extremely inappropriate (then men with women),they are also lazy. I somehow didn't expect that. I have had hit or miss with Chinese, same with Vietnamese.

I never expected them to be such bad as they are from europe.i was expecting behaviour and work ethic standards will be same of west but left disappointed quite a bit.

 

[JaDed]

I never expected them to be such bad as they are from europe.i was expecting behaviour and work ethic standards will be same of west but left disappointed quite a bit.

I havent had great experience with White Brits either, just Germans that too only for tech for Business even they were too laid back for me.

 

[JaDed]

I am the same as you now in terms of switching off, although I probably switch off more as you can tell from the amount I have posted on PP in this past year.

When I interact with desis I know they are waiting for any opportunity to one up me. It makes me a bit more cautious. I work with a lot of Indians, and some Pakistanis, some of the sharpest and most hard working dudes, a pleasure to work with because of that, but I am constantly on guard because I wouldn't trust them to have my back.

That is fair, I trusted a grand total of one desi since coming to Dallas Area in last 6 years, and he was an awesome manager and always had mine and others back.

Most Desis are unfortunately very insecure, probably to do something with ranking system back home in India where everyone is fighting for same resources consistently.

 

[Vikram1989]

I havent had great experience with White Brits either, just Germans that too only for tech for Business even they were too laid back for me.

Brits live in their old framework. I met both types.Germans are cool and laid back. Met quite a few hard-working Spanish.

 

[JaDed]

Brits live in their old framework. I met both types.Germans are cool and laid back. Met quite a few hard-working Spanish.

Makes sense and Latin Americans(from LATAM) were surprisingly creative in tech but their communication skills English were really bad, I saw folks taking advantage of them utilizing their ideas ,projects and passing off it as their own.

 

[psyoptica]

I have found Pakistanis specifically Punjabis to be the least trustworthy of all. I have kept my interactions with Indians to a minimum but I would be very careful to place my trust in them. Any nationality that comes from a poor economic background will inherently be greedy although some of my most trusted frriends are people in my established circles who are desis.

I have found white Americans and white Canadians and Sri Lankans to be most realiable and trustworthy. Latinos from Mexico too to a certain extent. The most hypocritcal people again I have found are desis from India and Pakistan. Anyone who's overtly religious and uses religion to frame their argument and get your attention is a huge red flag for me.

 

[Vikram1989]

As a separate matter, I will always find funny when Karachi and Pindi/Punjabi guys have a go at each other.They are happy to mingle with Indians than each other .Karachi guys will always complain "oh ,here comes the privileged punjabi/pindi".

 

[Hikaru]

You’re still not reading it correctly, and it circles back to my initial question.

Who are ‘Islamists’ to you? And since you’ve openly claimed and affirmed yourself as a devotee and supporter of Hindutva extremists, who exactly do you consider an ‘Islamist’? Is it every Muslim? is Irfan Pathan Islamist?

Your initial question has been answered above by me and later by @uppercut.

You are so enraged by my pick of top hypocrites that you have to keep dragging me to a pointless debate. Learn to accept the fact that being critical of an ideology or it's people isn't your sole right. Grow a thicker skin rather than being up in arms over contrasting views.

 

[Hitman]

Most trustworthy would be the entire Sharif and Bhutto family from Pakistan.

 

[Tera Gawaandi]

More I grow older less I like people.

It is not good to generalize races and nationalities. Many posters mentioned desi's, I feel like you guys put your guard down and unknowingly act racist in a manner as you expect a desi not to betray you and when your expectation do not meet reality you get hurt. Just act professional.

Before you trust someone, you have to tell them the consequences if they betray you. If you tolerate any disrespect then it's on you, you are a weak man and deserve a humiliation. Being meek is not a virtue.

Also accept the reality, we all have vices and we are all capable of being evil. Learn to be self reliant, expect no favours from others, don't act privileged.

Live a stress free life, don't boast and do not over share anything personal. Your coworkers are not your friends by default, don't talk bad about others, and don't listen bad about others. Set boundaries.

You just know when you meet someone authentic, their vibe and their persona feels not forced.

For the sake of this thread, I get along with Latinos and Filipinos most. They are easy going fun loving very open minded chill people. But others are not far behind.

 

[HalBass9]

Your initial question has been answered above by me and later by @uppercut.

You are so enraged by my pick of top hypocrites that you have to keep dragging me to a pointless debate. Learn to accept the fact that being critical of an ideology or it's people isn't your sole right. Grow a thicker skin rather than being up in arms over contrasting views.

Thicker skin? I’m not the one justifying violence over belief systems, your friend @uppercut is.

You haven’t answered anything because, quite frankly, you can’t. You’re dodging because you have no actual argument.

I’m not enraged, every far right religious group is extremist. It’s you who’s upset because I pointed out your hypocrisy, which is clearly rooted in hatred.

Quoting @uppercut,who manages to embarrass himself weekly by openly supporting the slaughter of humans in the name of belief, isn’t the flex you think it is. You could’ve done better.