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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Naseem Shah becomes the youngest fast-bowler to take a five-wicket haul in a Test innings <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvSL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1208979758882676737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Test fifer is quite hard for any fast bowler .Nasim have done it in just 2nd test outstanding performance
 
Naseem, Shaheen and Hasnain have very good potential. Just need a younger version of Abbas now :babar

Really happy for this lad.
 
He is not 16 but even at 18-19 he is an insane prospect hope we don't lose him
 
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A very grateful and happy Naseem Shah!
 
Naseem, Shaheen and Hasnain have very good potential. Just need a younger version of Abbas now :babar

Really happy for this lad.

Is there any potential fast bowler in the mold of Abbas or Asif in the domestic circuit?

Aamir
Shaheen
Naseem
Hasnain

These is one dangerous bowling attack.
 
Is there any potential fast bowler in the mold of Abbas or Asif in the domestic circuit?

Aamir
Shaheen
Naseem
Hasnain

These is one dangerous bowling attack.
Sameen Gul and Ehsan Adil, but remains to be seen how effective they can be.

Shaheen, Naseem and Hasnain could end up being a lethal combination, provided they work hard and are taken care of.
 
Sameen Gul and Ehsan Adil, but remains to be seen how effective they can be.

Shaheen, Naseem and Hasnain could end up being a lethal combination, provided they work hard and are taken care of.

Sameen Gul and Ehsan Adil are skill-less trundlers.
 
Such a good bowler. I hope he continues to work hard instead of turning into a clown like Hasan and Amir.
 
Where is [MENTION=31948]hur rizvi[/MENTION]? :yk

Got to be patient with these kids, their potential is endless.
 
Top class bowler. Should go places. Just hope that the Pakistani system doesn't destroy him.
 
Talk nah! [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] and [MENTION=31948]hur rizvi[/MENTION].

Sare awain hi uth ke experts ban jate hain.
 
Congratulations to the boy.. another 3 injury free years & this lad will be next level .ps some folk are not convinced about his age &#55358;&#56631;&#55356;&#57341;*♂️ Come on guys the lad looks like a teenager & hardly any facial hair..
 
And Youngest non-Pakistani to take five wickets in a test innings? Sorry I just wanna find out who did it for real without age fudging.

A BD guy, Nayeem Hasan.

And, Amir didn't age fudge.. he was genuine.
 
And Youngest non-Pakistani to take five wickets in a test innings? Sorry I just wanna find out who did it for real without age fudging.
Have you seen aamir in his teen years , When Naseem cane onto bat He was Looking like a Genuine 16 Which i believe he is 17-18 for sure
 
And Youngest non-Pakistani to take five wickets in a test innings? Sorry I just wanna find out who did it for real without age fudging.

Give it a rest.

Rejoice at the talent that the world of cricket is presented with today.
 
A BD guy, Nayeem Hasan.

And, Amir didn't age fudge.. he was genuine.

Thanks for the info.

Also I beg to disagree, Amir most definitely fudged age, you don't huff and puff and grunt your way to trundle in the very first spell of a test match when you are 25-26. He is at least 30-32 which is why he decided to retire from test to squeeze out whatever little juice he is left with.
 
Give it a rest.

Rejoice at the talent that the world of cricket is presented with today.

Of course he is talented, excellent feat even if he is 19-20. That doesn't mean one should ignore fact, he is clearly not the youngest to achieve that, this 'Youngest' drama is a mockery of truth. He should be celebrated as a fantastic young talent with massive potential but lying and age doctoring is not the way to go about it.
 
Of course he is talented, excellent feat even if he is 19-20. That doesn't mean one should ignore fact, he is clearly not the youngest to achieve that, this 'Youngest' drama is a mockery of truth. He should be celebrated as a fantastic young talent with massive potential but lying and age doctoring is not the way to go about it.

He is not 19/20, LOL. Get your bearings corrected.
 
He is not 19/20, LOL. Get your bearings corrected.

He needs to get his official age corrected, My bearings or whatever you mean by that is perfectly alright. His age could be anything in between 18-22, most definitely not 16. Not sure what is there to Lol about, this is truly embarrassing for a international sports person.
 
He needs to get his official age corrected, My bearings or whatever you mean by that is perfectly alright. His age could be anything in between 18-22, most definitely not 16. Not sure what is there to Lol about, this is truly embarrassing for a international sports person.
He doesn't NEED to do anything, just because you think it's not true. He may or may not be 16, but that's what it says on his official record. Folks like you NEED to live with it, and stop wasting everyone's time here discussing the same issue repeatedly.
 
He needs to get his official age corrected, My bearings or whatever you mean by that is perfectly alright. His age could be anything in between 18-22, most definitely not 16. Not sure what is there to Lol about, this is truly embarrassing for a international sports person.

If you have any evidence to prove that he is falsifying his age then bring it up otherwise you sound like a madman.
 
If you have any evidence to prove that he is falsifying his age then bring it up otherwise you sound like a madman.

Man you are so gullible it makes me sad.
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] do I have your permission to put one of your old tweets to prove my point?
 
He doesn't NEED to do anything, just because you think it's not true. He may or may not be 16, but that's what it says on his official record. Folks like you NEED to live with it, and stop wasting everyone's time here discussing the same issue repeatedly.

You are wasting both yours and my time by quoting me then if you feel fudging age and taking credit based on a lie is a non issue. Please ignore my posts and move on.
 
Man you are so gullible it makes me sad.
[MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] do I have your permission to put one of your old tweets to prove my point?

Saj's tweet was based upon what he was told. He did not go and certify Naseem's age.

So now as I asked before - stop spoiling a thread to celebrate a young man's achievement.
 
A BD guy, Nayeem Hasan.

And, Amir didn't age fudge.. he was genuine.

It is apparently well known in Rawalpindi Pindi that Amir is at least a few years older than his official age. He was in the papers when he was bowling 140 at ‘14’ years old. But people people who attended school etc with him attested he’s older.

Anyway time will tell. If he plays until 34/35 and maintains his current level then thrrr could be an argument that his age was close to genuine.
 
If you have any evidence to prove that he is falsifying his age then bring it up otherwise you sound like a madman.

He was 16 in 2016. You can check the video on Twitter and there are also articles from that time. Andy Roberts was quite excited by his potential when he worked with him Karachi.

He is 18-19. Still a teenager so a good achievement.
 
Talk nah! [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] and [MENTION=31948]hur rizvi[/MENTION].

Sare awain hi uth ke experts ban jate hain.

I am sorry if I am not partaking in the mass bhangra over performances against Sri Lanka.

Well maybe I should because this is the ceiling of Pakistani players today. Give me a moment so that I can take my dhol out.

On a serious note, ICC should act with caution before declaring a Pakistani or Afghani player as the youngest to achieve XYZ. Our players have no credibility when it comes to age.
 
Saj's tweet was based upon what he was told. He did not go and certify Naseem's age.

So now as I asked before - stop spoiling a thread to celebrate a young man's achievement.

Cool then, could have made him 15, would have made more buzz around the world.

Sorry for spoiling your thread in search for truth.

BTW never once doubted his talent or ability, just his age.

I am out.
 
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Saj's tweet was based upon what he was told. He did not go and certify Naseem's age.

So now as I asked before - stop spoiling a thread to celebrate a young man's achievement.

I don’t think he’s spoiling a thread. The comments are very fair and relevant to a thread which highlights his age as a key factor.

Naseem Shah is a brilliant talent and the most exciting player we’ve had since a young Amir. But his age is debatable.

No one is implying Saj made this up, but people have the right to debate it provided they don’t cross any lines.

As for evidence, of course no one will be able to give any. However given previous interviews and details, it appears likely that his age is a bit older than stated. Also, given he has been under the radar for a while and was apparently faster than Hasnain last year, how many 15 year olds have bowled 145+ in history I wonder?
 
Of course he is talented, excellent feat even if he is 19-20. That doesn't mean one should ignore fact, he is clearly not the youngest to achieve that, this 'Youngest' drama is a mockery of truth. He should be celebrated as a fantastic young talent with massive potential but lying and age doctoring is not the way to go about it.

For once I agree with you.
 
It is pretty clear that PCB decided to fudge his age between 2016 and 2019 to accommodate him in certain competitions etc.
 
I don’t think he’s spoiling a thread. The comments are very fair and relevant to a thread which highlights his age as a key factor.

Naseem Shah is a brilliant talent and the most exciting player we’ve had since a young Amir. But his age is debatable.

No one is implying Saj made this up, but people have the right to debate it provided they don’t cross any lines.

As for evidence, of course no one will be able to give any. However given previous interviews and details, it appears likely that his age is a bit older than stated. Also, given he has been under the radar for a while and was apparently faster than Hasnain last year, how many 15 year olds have bowled 145+ in history I wonder?

There is another thread for that - please discuss it there.
 
He was 16 in 2016. You can check the video on Twitter and there are also articles from that time. Andy Roberts was quite excited by his potential when he worked with him Karachi.

He is 18-19. Still a teenager so a good achievement.

I was aware of this, but MIG responded with regards to that tweet above.

He might be 18 but not 20.
 
Don’t know why his eyes look to indicate that he got teary after this achievement.

The presser was quite emotional, the journalists kept bringing up his family tragedy.

I can't explain what I went through because my family might be watching and my father might be upset so that will stay in my heart. I thank Allah for giving me sabr, it was a very tough time for me. I can't really explain in words, my feelings but thanks to Allah for making it easy for me. My mother didn't know much about cricket but I used to try and explain to her about it and she always used to pray for me. She didn't know about bowling or batting but she used to ask about who won. Whenever I told her we lost, she would offer namaz and pray for me. I spent a lot of time in Lahore recently and my mother didn't come there because she was accustomed to life in the village. When I joined the Pakistan team, I told her that I am very busy now and whenever I come for training to Lahore then I will see her, she was going to Lahore on the day that she passed away.
 
His age is controversial , but as a talent there is no doubt , he has good potential , needs to be played properly , and not overused.
 
Really looking for to naseem and shaheen bowl in the UK next summer. Should be great to watch.
 
Thanks for the info.

Also I beg to disagree, Amir most definitely fudged age, you don't huff and puff and grunt your way to trundle in the very first spell of a test match when you are 25-26. He is at least 30-32 which is why he decided to retire from test to squeeze out whatever little juice he is left with.

U actually have no clue eh I’m from Gujjar khan Amir’s village isn’t far from ours his older brother use to come play in our village and Amir was a little kid back than though i was only 3-4 years older than him he looked like in his very early teens and im talking about 10 years back 2008ish so amir was definitely 16-17 when he started playing for pakistan. you can even tell from face in the t20 2009 world cup how young he looks like a proper teenager
 

I don’t think anyone is going by his face but the fact that the PCB themselves called him a 16 year old in 2016.

They probably fudged their age to accommodate him in some team etc. and now it is too late to backtrack because his fake age has become a big part of his hype.
 
I don’t think anyone is going by his face but the fact that the PCB themselves called him a 16 year old in 2016.

They probably fudged their age to accommodate him in some team etc. and now it is too late to backtrack because his fake age has become a big part of his hype.

I wont trust the age being told around in the camp which Andy Roberts conducted. Camps for new players would have had countless players and I doubt that Andy Roberts or any other coaches (Considering the competency of PCB) around would have been that much involved that they remembered everyone's age.

This is Naseem Shah's childhood coach's statement:

""He has undergone PCB-conducted bones tests and a panel of doctors had also confirmed his age," Naseem's former coach Suleiman Qadir said. "Yes, in the past I do agree that in the absence of birth-certificates the age of certain cricketers were questioned. But in the case of Naseem Shah, he already has a birth certificate and a smart card. In our country Smart Card becomes a National Identity Card when a person crosses 18 and Naseem is still holding the Smart Card," he added."

"Andy Roberts is not Naseem Shah's father. I can guarantee you that he is 16 years of age. He came to our academy some 4 years ago and was twelve then," Naseem's former coach told Asian Age."

Source: https://www.ibtimes.co.in/andy-robe...hood-coach-claims-pacers-age-proven-by-809554
 
I wont trust the age being told around in the camp which Andy Roberts conducted. Camps for new players would have had countless players and I doubt that Andy Roberts or any other coaches (Considering the competency of PCB) around would have been that much involved that they remembered everyone's age.

This is Naseem Shah's childhood coach's statement:

""He has undergone PCB-conducted bones tests and a panel of doctors had also confirmed his age," Naseem's former coach Suleiman Qadir said. "Yes, in the past I do agree that in the absence of birth-certificates the age of certain cricketers were questioned. But in the case of Naseem Shah, he already has a birth certificate and a smart card. In our country Smart Card becomes a National Identity Card when a person crosses 18 and Naseem is still holding the Smart Card," he added."

"Andy Roberts is not Naseem Shah's father. I can guarantee you that he is 16 years of age. He came to our academy some 4 years ago and was twelve then," Naseem's former coach told Asian Age."

Source: https://www.ibtimes.co.in/andy-robe...hood-coach-claims-pacers-age-proven-by-809554

Well neither is the coach his father. Naseem Shah has himself stated that he is not 16.

Read Saj’s post in the following thread. I will quote a few:

I don't get why the PCB are trying to cover it up. Let it be, just say he's 18 or 19 or whatever.

Stop looking foolish by insisting he is 16, when the lad himself is saying he isn't 16.

The Naseem Shah age episode has been a farce.

He was 17 over a year ago when I tweeted about him.

2 years ago he was 16 when Andy Roberts commented about him.

Now suddenly he's 16 again.

When I tweeted he was 17, I asked him how old he is and he said 17.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...first-class-international-or-just-let-them-be

PCB and his coach are not fooling anyone with their drama. It is clear that he is not 16. He could be 18,19 or 20 but he is definitely not 16 or 17.

There was no need of PCB to lie about his age and dig a hole for themselves. It has created unnecessary controversy and he is getting mocked for no reason. He clearly doesn’t need or deserve this.

Whoever has been behind his age-fudging needs to apologize to him. I highly doubt he was the one to ask for it to be honest.
 
Well neither is the coach his father. Naseem Shah has himself stated that he is not 16.

Read Saj’s post in the following thread. I will quote a few:







http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...first-class-international-or-just-let-them-be

PCB and his coach are not fooling anyone with their drama. It is clear that he is not 16. He could be 18,19 or 20 but he is definitely not 16 or 17.

There was no need of PCB to lie about his age and dig a hole for themselves. It has created unnecessary controversy and he is getting mocked for no reason. He clearly doesn’t need or deserve this.

Whoever has been behind his age-fudging needs to apologize to him. I highly doubt he was the one to ask for it to be honest.

Maybe he is 18 but he doesnt look like anything more than that otherwise seeing the picture of 18 year old Cummins one can argue that this age issue might not be limited to sub continent only.
 
Maybe he is 18 but he doesnt look like anything more than that otherwise seeing the picture of 18 year old Cummins one can argue that this age issue might not be limited to sub continent only.

It is normal for westerners to look older than their actual age. In the UK some of the 15-16 year old girls hardly look different than 25 year olds.

It is quite normal in Pakistan as well. Some 27-28 year olds often look 22-23 and vice versa. Genetics play a role.

You can’t say much about Naseem’s age by looking at him. He could be 18, 19 or even 20, but he is mostly definitely not 16. His age has been fudged by someone for some reason.
 
Well neither is the coach his father. Naseem Shah has himself stated that he is not 16.

Read Saj’s post in the following thread. I will quote a few:







http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...first-class-international-or-just-let-them-be

PCB and his coach are not fooling anyone with their drama. It is clear that he is not 16. He could be 18,19 or 20 but he is definitely not 16 or 17.

There was no need of PCB to lie about his age and dig a hole for themselves. It has created unnecessary controversy and he is getting mocked for no reason. He clearly doesn’t need or deserve this.

Whoever has been behind his age-fudging needs to apologize to him. I highly doubt he was the one to ask for it to be honest.

I agree with that the PCB have created a whole mess out of this situation, on topic how old do you think SSA looks? he is officially 19 but looks around 20-21 to me.
 
I agree with that the PCB have created a whole mess out of this situation, on topic how old do you think SSA looks? he is officially 19 but looks around 20-21 to me.

Yeah probably 20-21. As a general rule, it is safe to add a couple of years to pretty much every Pakistani player. Most of them are quite open about it as well like Afridi and Younis.

The likes of Iftikhar take it to the next level though. His age-fudging is comical like Rashid Khan’s.
 
Yeah probably 20-21. As a general rule, it is safe to add a couple of years to pretty much every Pakistani player. Most of them are quite open about it as well like Afridi and Younis.

The likes of Iftikhar take it to the next level though. His age-fudging is comical like Rashid Khan’s.

Omg shaheen is 21 pleaseee he even had acne last year that shows you he is actually a proper teen you are Pathan you should know this Pashtun people look very manly and physically developed in their teens so it is not surprising thing for them to look older and be in their teens. Same thing with ifitkhar than we can argue Diego Costa is age fudging too since he looks 65. Man you are valid to a point when criticizing this team but than you get too boring and ridiculous when you start mocking everything
 
Yeah probably 20-21. As a general rule, it is safe to add a couple of years to pretty much every Pakistani player. Most of them are quite open about it as well like Afridi and Younis.

The likes of Iftikhar take it to the next level though. His age-fudging is comical like Rashid Khan’s.

But these records will have no meaning if there is severe age fudging. You can't have records like "youngest player to take fifer" "youngest player to score a 100". I wondered the same about hasan Raza. He was what 14 years old when he made debut? He looked young. But not that young.
 
But these records will have no meaning if there is severe age fudging. You can't have records like "youngest player to take fifer" "youngest player to score a 100". I wondered the same about hasan Raza. He was what 14 years old when he made debut? He looked young. But not that young.

These records are meaningless anyway. They don't hold much importance.
 
Omg shaheen is 21 pleaseee he even had acne last year that shows you he is actually a proper teen you are Pathan you should know this Pashtun people look very manly and physically developed in their teens so it is not surprising thing for them to look older and be in their teens. Same thing with ifitkhar than we can argue Diego Costa is age fudging too since he looks 65. Man you are valid to a point when criticizing this team but than you get too boring and ridiculous when you start mocking everything

Ifthikar for sure is not 29. That guy really did age fudge himself a good 8 years.
 
It is normal for westerners to look older than their actual age. In the UK some of the 15-16 year old girls hardly look different than 25 year olds.

It is quite normal in Pakistan as well. Some 27-28 year olds often look 22-23 and vice versa. Genetics play a role.

You can’t say much about Naseem’s age by looking at him. He could be 18, 19 or even 20, but he is mostly definitely not 16. His age has been fudged by someone for some reason.

Fair enough.
 
Could be 18 going on 19. Who cares.

I do actually. It makes the whole of Pakistan cricket look unprofessional.

As far as bowling is concerned, he would be a great talent if he was 20yrs old, that is what makes it all the more annoying that the PCB don't take these issues seriously.
 
Congratulations to Naseem Shah. He is a brilliant bowler in the making. I see his partnership with Shaheen to be a lethal one in the years to come. Can't wait to see them in New Zealand end of next year.
 
why do people get so sensitive about ages, all pak players except for misbah and fakhar afaik have fake ages, add 2 to 3 years for everyone and u get the right age.

yes its a unfair when overage players play under 19, but as far as international cricket goes ages are immaterial. age related achievements for cricketers should neither be celebrated or derided imo.
 
why do people get so sensitive about ages, all pak players except for misbah and fakhar afaik have fake ages, add 2 to 3 years for everyone and u get the right age.

He is literally getting hype cause he is said to be an age of 16. Yes it has happen before but it doesn’t mean its right. We should be wanting better than this. If people don’t speak out about it this trend will continue. It has to stop cause even us as cricket fans can’t properly judge a cricketer based on there age.
 
It is normal for westerners to look older than their actual age. In the UK some of the 15-16 year old girls hardly look different than 25 year olds.

It is quite normal in Pakistan as well. Some 27-28 year olds often look 22-23 and vice versa. Genetics play a role.

You can’t say much about Naseem’s age by looking at him. He could be 18, 19 or even 20, but he is mostly definitely not 16. His age has been fudged by someone for some reason.

How can you compare the 15-16 year old girls with people from the SC??

Teenagers in the UK wear makeup, dress like adults and what not. If they take off the makeup and dress appropriately they'll look their age too. It's not like they naturally look older.

Having said that, Naseem is not 16. Babar isn't 25 and that's a fact that i came across yesterday.
 
He is literally getting hype cause he is said to be an age of 16. Yes it has happen before but it doesn’t mean its right. We should be wanting better than this. If people don’t speak out about it this trend will continue. It has to stop cause even us as cricket fans can’t properly judge a cricketer based on there age.

id disagree, everyone knows hes 18 or 19, hes getting hype because hes a very talented bowler.

the other issue is a societal thing, pakistanis don't view "white lies" as problematic, sub chalta hai attitude, and i dont think a cricketer will change anything.

afridi came out with his real age, realised it meant he played under 19 wrongly then back tracked on it. no one even cared.
 
Whats the fuss about his age.

Even if hes 19 this is quite an impressive feat.
Btw if we go by looks he surely looks like a teen, no facial hair.
 
He is literally getting hype cause he is said to be an age of 16. Yes it has happen before but it doesn’t mean its right. We should be wanting better than this. If people don’t speak out about it this trend will continue. It has to stop cause even us as cricket fans can’t properly judge a cricketer based on there age.

Hype is due to what he can do with the ball as a teen. Even if he is 18 which genuine 18 year old took a fifer before? If we push the limit of genuineness maybe Cummins and Amir, so that tells you how much potential Naseem has.

Its not only Naseem or Pak players, you cant judge an age of any Indian, BD, Afg or Srilankan players as well with confidence. Shami is 28 while Rashid just entered tender 20s? Really?
 
Hype is due to what he can do with the ball as a teen. Even if he is 18 which genuine 18 year old took a fifer before? If we push the limit of genuineness maybe Cummins and Amir, so that tells you how much potential Naseem has.

Its not only Naseem or Pak players, you cant judge an age of any Indian, BD, Afg or Srilankan players as well with confidence. Shami is 28 while Rashid just entered tender 20s? Really?

Not sure of the system in pakistan but getting your birth registered within the allotted time is very strict in srilanka. Ages are very accurate due to the strict policies implemented.
 
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