Naseeruddin Shah says he fears for his children in India of today

[Canford Cliffs]

Naseeruddin Shah says that he is worried for children in today's India. He's worried because he imagines a situation where his children may be surrounded by an angry mob and asked: "Are you Hindu or Muslim?"

"My children will have no answer," Naseeruddin Shah says, "Because we chose not to give a religious education to our children."

Naseeruddin Shah also says that there is a "poison" that has spread in the Indian society. "It will be very difficult to capture this djinn [genie] back into the bottle."

"There is complete impunity for those who take the law into their own hands," Naseeruddin says. "We have already witnessed that the death of a cow has more significance [in today's India] than that of a police officer."

Naseeruddin was referring to the recent Bulandshahr violence in which a police officer was killed by a mob. The violence was sparked by the discovery of cow carcasses.

The Uttar Pradesh Police has arrested three people in connection with the alleged cow slaughter. The policeman's killers remain free.

Naseeruddin Shah's comments were put online by Karwan-e-Mohabbat India (Caravan of Love) a travelling activist collective that is focussed on highlight and combating instances of hate crimes and lynching.

In a short YouTube video put up by Karwan-e-Mohabbat India, Naseeruddin Shah says that he worries for his children.

"I was given a religious education...But Ratna [Pathak Shah, Naseeruddin's wife] did not get any religious education...[And] we chose not to give a religious education to our children," Naseeruddin says.

Naseeruddin adds that he believes "good and evil have nothing to do with religion" and so his children were not brought up in a religious environment.

"So I fear for my children...Because if a mob gathers around them and asks them are you a Hindu or Muslim, they will not have any answer...Because they have no religion," Naseeruddin says, before signing off with: "I am angry and I believe every right thinking man must be angry and must not fear."


https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...-poison-hindu-muslim-video-1413485-2018-12-20

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Kohli to sirf bahana tha...desh ko intolerant batana nishana tha.
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] - This is what I was talking about in cricket forum and his inner motive. A classic case of I saw things before anyone and proven to be right again.

 

[JaDed]

Police reforms and better law and order situation can easily help, but alas govn and even worse activist SC interested in cricket than law and order situation in the country.

 

[JaDed]

Kohli to sirf bahana tha...desh ko intolerant batana nishana tha.

[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] - This is what I was talking about in cricket forum and his inner motive. A classic case of I saw things before anyone and proven to be right again.

What's the point your are trying to make here? He has been talking about intolerance from before, secondly he has massive interest in cricket, as known he hosts the show midwicket tales, also he has the right to opinion on Kohli just like Kohli can thrash his films if needed, which is nothing wrong.

 

[Swashbuckler]

His point about the cop killing in UP is spot on. Shah has always been an outspoken left liberal voice in our film/theatre industry and we need such famous people as the conscience of our society. He hasn't said anything wrong over here but fully expect North Korea channels to get mileage out of this and indulge in non-stop shouting matches. Even Sambit Patra will get more ammo for future troll fests .

From my side, I stand by everything this great artiste has said. Even those who don't like what he said should respect his freedom of speech.

 

[CricketCartoons]

His point about the cop killing in UP is spot on. Shah has always been an outspoken left liberal voice in our film/theatre industry and we need such famous people as the conscience of our society. He hasn't said anything wrong over here but fully expect North Korea channels to get mileage out of this and indulge in non-stop shouting matches. Even Sambit Patra will get more ammo for future troll fests .

From my side, I stand by everything this great artiste has said. Even those who don't like what he said should respect his freedom of speech.

we don't need biased people to be the conscience keepers, whether right wingers or leftists. both are too biased and see their pov as the right way. also, these are knee jerk reactions based on events that are happen once in a while. these clowns should stick to dancing in bollywood movies.

The main problem is the judiciary and rotten, stale constitution due to which common people can never get justice. the judicial system is designed to help the corrupt and the killers by the various delays it provides to protect them and discourage and harrass the victim. wonder why none of these liberals talks about these high and supreme court judges who are the real problem in this semi functioning nation.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Under Banner of 'Artists Unite', More Than 450 Signatories Speak out Against Hate

https://thewire.in/culture/artists-unite-450-signatories-declaration-democracy

Aparenly, actor Naseruddin Shah will be leading the march just before general election next year.

All falling apart now

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Bhakts should send him and his cronies to Pakistan.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

What's the point your are trying to make here? He has been talking about intolerance from before, secondly he has massive interest in cricket, as known he hosts the show midwicket tales, also he has the right to opinion on Kohli just like Kohli can thrash his films if needed, which is nothing wrong.

You can keep your head under the sand but dont expect others to be so naive. The inner motive of certain segment of our society is known to all. Why would Naseeruddin Shah feel threatened in a country which has given him so much? Didnt Amir Khan played the same card before the UP election and failed miserably?

Award wapasi gang, not in my name gang, tukde tukde gang and now new drama is coming 'Artists unite' gang

These pseudo seculars are funny but relentless at the same time.

If his concern was only about Virat Kohli sledging...he could hv simply criticized him for his poor conduct. But his last line "I have no intention to leave the country btw..." gave away his inner motive. Who has asked Naseer to leave the country anyway? That Virat's video where he asked the fan to go and live in a country whom he supports, was a statement made in jest. Everyone knows Virat Kohli didnt meant that and he even apologized for that in further tweets. But Naseer using Virat's agression for his bigoted political aspirations is clear to all.

But the good news is, Kuch nehi hone wala....it will be Modi again in 2019. They can try all they want though

 

[troodon]

That Yogi Government in UP is an abomination. That guy has made a mockery of India with each news coming out of there more ridiculous than before.

Naseeruddin Shah is right. What kind of toxic environment will future kids face in India? Intolerance is on the rise and the polarization of the society based on us vs them is increasing wherever BJP spreads its tentacles.

Future of India lies in people loving each other irrespective of religion, caste and race. Polarization of the society will do India a lot of harm in the future.

 

[CricketCartoons]

That Yogi Government in UP is an abomination. That guy has made a mockery of India with each news coming out of there more ridiculous than before.

Naseeruddin Shah is right. What kind of toxic environment will future kids face in India? Intolerance is on the rise and the polarization of the society based on us vs them is increasing wherever BJP spreads its tentacles.

Future of India lies in people loving each other irrespective of religion, caste and race. Polarization of the society will do India a lot of harm in the future.

The abomination are the millennial hindus who are writing the last chapter of hindu religion. What a shame that so many people died and sacrificed for a generation which is hell bent on joining the enemies of the True Religion and are cutting the same banyan tree which withstood every storm but is now fighting a losing fight against its own, the crypto, munafiq hindus who are eating it like a moth.

 

[Swashbuckler]

we don't need biased people to be the conscience keepers, whether right wingers or leftists. both are too biased and see their pov as the right way. also, these are knee jerk reactions based on events that are happen once in a while. these clowns should stick to dancing in bollywood movies.

Once in a while? Really? Have you been living under a rock?

 

[JaDed]

You can keep your head under the sand but dont expect others to be so naive. The inner motive of certain segment of our society is known to all. Why would Naseeruddin Shah feel threatened in a country which has given him so much? Didnt Amir Khan played the same card before the UP election and failed miserably?

Award wapasi gang, not in my name gang, tukde tukde gang and now new drama is coming 'Artists unite' gang

These pseudo seculars are funny but relentless at the same time.

If his concern was only about Virat Kohli sledging...he could hv simply criticized him for his poor conduct. But his last line "I have no intention to leave the country btw..." gave away his inner motive. Who has asked Naseer to leave the country anyway? That Virat's video where he asked the fan to go and live in a country whom he supports, was a statement made in jest. Everyone knows Virat Kohli didnt meant that and he even apologized for that in further tweets. But Naseer using Virat's agression for his bigoted political aspirations is clear to all.

But the good news is, Kuch nehi hone wala....it will be Modi again in 2019. They can try all they want though

Don't understand the point of your smiley at end of posts, you are not trolling anyone here except showing your ignorance.
Who you choose to vote or support is your choice, silar to what Nasserudin Shah says, Nasserudin has got lot from.country but has also given the country many good films not sure what your point is here should he be grateful to India for getting to act in movies in a craft which he exceeds?

And if you think Modi is coming in 2019 good for you, just don't whine incase he loses like you did after that he recent assembly elections that happened because he is not getting any support from Southern states and Northern,Central and eastern states are divided so good luck.

Most of us here are swing voters ,you are the one that takes politics to heart so better harden yourself because as said in 2014 'change is the only constant'.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Once in a while? Really? Have you been living under a rock?

Either you are ignorant or trolling. If you really believe then give me the ratio of events amounting to loss of life to peaceful events, within a year (any year of your choice). If you can't do that, then provide the murders per capita per year (any year of your choice). Give me hard cold data. I challenge you.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Most of us here are swing voters ,you are the one that takes politics to heart so better harden yourself because as said in 2014 'change is the only constant'.

And this is the problem with indians. they treat elections as a game, where one party/coalition wins and other loses, and they swing from one to the other enjoying the victory and loss of parties, when the only losers are themselves. instead, of treating it as a game, it should be treated as a system, which should be continuously improved. but no, the fools deserve what they get.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

If Shah has brought up his children to have no religion, why can't he instruct them to answer the mob "we are Hindus" when challenged? From my understanding a Hindu can be atheist, so they wouldn't be lying, and their safety would prevail...which surely is the most important thing?

 

[JaDed]

And this is the problem with indians. they treat elections as a game, where one party/coalition wins and other loses, and they swing from one to the other enjoying the victory and loss of parties, when the only losers are themselves. instead, of treating it as a game, it should be treated as a system, which should be continuously improved. but no, the fools deserve what they get.

How is it a game? So one should stick with the same party forever? It is a system and any party that improves the system and lives of it's citizens and interferes less in social and economical activity gets my vote and you might have a different opinion.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Don't understand the point of your smiley at end of posts, you are not trolling anyone here except showing your ignorance.
Who you choose to vote or support is your choice, silar to what Nasserudin Shah says, Nasserudin has got lot from.country but has also given the country many good films not sure what your point is here should he be grateful to India for getting to act in movies in a craft which he exceeds?

And if you think Modi is coming in 2019 good for you, just don't whine incase he loses like you did after that he recent assembly elections that happened because he is not getting any support from Southern states and Northern,Central and eastern states are divided so good luck.

Most of us here are swing voters ,you are the one that takes politics to heart so better harden yourself because as said in 2014 'change is the only constant'.

Now thats a typical leftist melodramatic arguement. Pls keep these filmy dialogue to yourself. No one has said he should be grateful to Indians for allowing him to work in movies. He can choose whatever he wants to do like any law obidient people in the nation.

But why would he equate Virat Kohli sledging in cricket field with leave India jibe? He could have simply said...he is the worst behaved player. No one would hv an issue. But what is the connection of Kohli and he having to leave India? Its crystal clear that with elections upcoming he wants to create a climate in the country that India is intolerant under current govt. He is also leading the 'artists unite' gang (the link I shared above) in feb just before elections. So its pretty clear why Naseer bhai took a dig at Virat Kohli and what was his intentions, deninitely not cricket.

 

[troodon]

If Shah has brought up his children to have no religion, why can't he instruct them to answer the mob "we are Hindus" when challenged? From my understanding a Hindu can be atheist, so they wouldn't be lying, and their safety would prevail...which surely is the most important thing?

They should tell they are Hindu to a Hindu mob and a Muslim to a Muslim mob.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

They should tell they are Hindu to a Hindu mob and a Muslim to a Muslim mob.

Exactly. See how simple it is?

 

[JaDed]

Now thats a typical leftist melodramatic arguement. Pls keep these filmy dialogue to yourself. No one has said he should be grateful to Indians for allowing him to work in movies. He can choose whatever he wants to do like any law obidient people in the nation.

But why would he equate Virat Kohli sledging in cricket field with leave India jibe? He could have simply said...he is the worst behaved player. No one would hv an issue. But what is the connection of Kohli and he having to leave India? Its crystal clear that with elections upcoming he wants to create a climate in the country that India is intolerant under current govt. He is also leading the 'artists unite' gang (the link I shared above) in feb just before elections. So its pretty clear why Naseer bhai took a dig at Virat Kohli and what was his intentions, deninitely not cricket.

He said that about Kohli coz Kohli did say something as stupid as that who couldn't take criticism and Nasser criticized Kohli and then said that so yeah.

What law has Nasserudin broken? He is law abiding you are the one bringing in country and all in your actual post.
And there is an issue in current envy w.r.t religion maybe mostly.in Hindi belt but it's there so stop saying there is no issue, there were riots during Congress time against Sikhs there is no denying, and similarly BJP has been involved in riots against Muslims/Christians(Gujarat,Orissa) and Been issues so just move on I'm not defending Congress here but you are hell bent on defending BJP and it's mother parties.
I don't care about Communists I blame them entirely for Bengals downfall and underachievment but you have a chip on your shoulders w.r.t BJP so don't label me but be ready to be labelled coz of your blind support to BJP-Modi.

 

[CricketCartoons]

How is it a game? So one should stick with the same party forever? It is a system and any party that improves the system and lives of it's citizens and interferes less in social and economical activity gets my vote and you might have a different opinion.

It is a game because all they care about is their favourite party to win and the party they hate to lose. they spend hours defending one party and dissing the other. instead of raising their bar and demanding a better standard from any party which is in power instead of unflinching loyalty to one party.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

He said that about Kohli coz Kohli did say something as stupid as that who couldn't take criticism and Nasser criticized Kohli and then said that so yeah.

What law has Nasserudin broken? He is law abiding you are the one bringing in country and all in your actual post.
And there is an issue in current envy w.r.t religion maybe mostly.in Hindi belt but it's there so stop saying there is no issue, there were riots during Congress time against Sikhs there is no denying, and similarly BJP has been involved in riots against Muslims/Christians(Gujarat,Orissa) and Been issues so just move on I'm not defending Congress here but you are hell bent on defending BJP and it's mother parties.
I don't care about Communists I blame them entirely for Bengals downfall and underachievment but you have a chip on your shoulders w.r.t BJP so don't label me but be ready to be labelled coz of your blind support to BJP-Modi.

When did I say Nasseruddin Shah has broken any law? I suggest you better read the posts completely, understand and then respond, else stop quoting me.

 

[DeadBall]

They should tell they are Hindu to a Hindu mob and a Muslim to a Muslim mob.

I think the mob concerned would stir trouble already knowing that they are of the Shah clan otherwise the chances of them being specifically (albeit randomly) mobbed would be almost 0%. But I get his general point and concern.

On another note, is the religion of a person mentioned in Indian passports like Pakistani ones?

 

[slipcatch]

Now thats a typical leftist melodramatic arguement. Pls keep these filmy dialogue to yourself. No one has said he should be grateful to Indians for allowing him to work in movies. He can choose whatever he wants to do like any law obidient people in the nation.

But why would he equate Virat Kohli sledging in cricket field with leave India jibe? He could have simply said...he is the worst behaved player. No one would hv an issue. But what is the connection of Kohli and he having to leave India? Its crystal clear that with elections upcoming he wants to create a climate in the country that India is intolerant under current govt. He is also leading the 'artists unite' gang (the link I shared above) in feb just before elections. So its pretty clear why Naseer bhai took a dig at Virat Kohli and what was his intentions, deninitely not cricket.

Stop hiding your support for bigotry under the term "right wing".

Changing the term doesn't negate the facts.

He isn't creating any climate in the country. He has stated the facts, there are countless evidence that support Indian bigoted far right are intolerant.

You and your post would have more weight if you would openly support bigoted, intolerant Ideas.

 

[PakLFC]

What is stopping him from settling elsewhere if India is that dangerous? Seems the old man just wants some attention.

 

[troodon]

I think the mob concerned would stir trouble already knowing that they are of the Shah clan otherwise the chances of them being specifically (albeit randomly) mobbed would be almost 0%. But I get his general point and concern.

On another note, is the religion of a person mentioned in Indian passports like Pakistani ones?

Thankfully no.

No mention of religion/caste/race on Passports.

 

[gazza619]

What is stopping him from settling elsewhere if India is that dangerous? Seems the old man just wants some attention.

But why would he want to settle elsewhere at his age. I mean India belongs to him as much as to any hindu nationalists. Morally the sub continent countries are going down the drain and we need to create more and more awareness.

 

[DeadBall]

Thankfully no.

No mention of religion/caste/race on Passports.

Think caste, race, etc would be too much on an international document anyway. Good that there is no mention of religion though.

 

[PakLFC]

But why would he want to settle elsewhere at his age. I mean India belongs to him as much as to any hindu nationalists. Morally the sub continent countries are going down the drain and we need to create more and more awareness.

Coz if he feels so oppressed then better to move elsewhere no matter how old he is.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Naseeruddin Shah’s Ajmer event cancelled over right-wing protests<a href="https://t.co/JOs9CvWOqh">https://t.co/JOs9CvWOqh</a> <a href="https://t.co/y5oEfefoRl">pic.twitter.com/y5oEfefoRl</a></p>— Hindustan Times (@htTweets) <a href="https://twitter.com/htTweets/status/1076118689475264513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Naseeruddin Shah speaks out... <a href="https://twitter.com/Bollyhungama?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Bollyhungama</a> cartoon <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NaseeruddinShah?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NaseeruddinShah</a> <a href="https://t.co/XzKIsg3Jtn">pic.twitter.com/XzKIsg3Jtn</a></p>— Satish Acharya (@satishacharya) <a href="https://twitter.com/satishacharya/status/1076025044994682882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Madplayer]

Pakistan bhejo is desh drohi ko because Pakistan ne hi theka le rakha hai sab ikhtalaaf karne walo ka.

 

[CricketCartoons]

LOL at those who call india intolerant, when the so called intolerant people get hurt and offended when someone says the country is not safe. real intolerant people would be proud of such accusations.

 

[Banter]

I like Naseer as an actor. And I empathize with his feelings.

The more you tolerate and allow bigotry to speak without resistance, the bolder it gets. This is how vocal minorities can snowball and dominate national conversations.

India is for all its citizens, and nobody, of any faith should ever have to feel this way. I feel embarassed that the advent of social media has given a platform for so many ignorant paindus to voice their bigotry.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Arnab Goswami on Naseeruddin Shah in his debate

https://youtu.be/Beye2PuF7Fw

 

[slipcatch]

Arnab Goswami on Naseeruddin Shah in his debate

https://youtu.be/Beye2PuF7Fw

Rather not watch loud mouth aunty.

But did he ask Naseer to move out of India?

Did he ask, do you love India?

Did he ask do you not consider India a great nation?

Did he mention other Muslims who are happy the way things are in India?

Or anything that would be close to above questions?

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Just realised that Shah’s brother is Zameer Uddin Shah, retired Lieutenant General of the Indian Army who fought in the 1971 war . Shah’s father and grandfather also served the nation in the Army. As did his nephew.

Yet these cowardly protesters, who seem to have a fetish when it comes to our bovine friends, have labelled him a pseudo Indian and are telling him to go to Pakistan. I wonder what they’ve done for their nation?

Shameful stuff.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Just realised that Shah’s brother is Zameer Uddin Shah, retired Lieutenant General of the Indian Army who fought in the 1971 war . Shah’s father and grandfather also served the nation in the Army. As did his nephew.

Yet these cowardly protesters, who seem to have a fetish when it comes to our bovine friends, have labelled him a pseudo Indian and are telling him to go to Pakistan. I wonder what they’ve done for their nation?

Shameful stuff.

Why should this bollywood celeb get credit for his relatives. strange line of thinking.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Just realised that Shah’s brother is Zameer Uddin Shah, retired Lieutenant General of the Indian Army who fought in the 1971 war . Shah’s father and grandfather also served the nation in the Army. As did his nephew.

Yet these cowardly protesters, who seem to have a fetish when it comes to our bovine friends, have labelled him a pseudo Indian and are telling him to go to Pakistan. I wonder what they’ve done for their nation?

Shameful stuff.

Dude its not so simple. First of all no one has asked Naseer to go to Pakistan until he opened his mouth saying his kids feel threatened in India. If you cant see this as a political stance just to create a hysteria in media before elections, you are being naive. Ask Amir Khan, he already did this drama in 2015. Didnt Naseer felt threatened when 26/11 happened in Mumbai, the city where he lives? He never said a word back then. But suddenly he is feeling threatened with what is happening in Uttar Pradesh?

Please.

 

[slipcatch]

Dude its not so simple. First of all no one has asked Naseer to go to Pakistan until he opened his mouth saying his kids feel threatened in India. If you cant see this as a political stance just to create a hysteria in media before elections, you are being naive. Ask Amir Khan, he already did this drama in 2015. Didnt Naseer felt threatened when 26/11 happened in Mumbai, the city where he lives? He never said a word back then. But suddenly he is feeling threatened with what is happening in Uttar Pradesh?

Please.

What are you even talking about?

Are you even using your brain?

It’s understandable that you have to find justification for any wrong committed by bigoted radicalized extremists Hindu but let’s not assume rest are as ignorant and naive as yourself.

“First of all no one asked Naseer to go to Pakistan until he opened his mouth”.

You must be kidding? The above comment is prime example that you can’t even comprehend your own ignorance, bigoted and racist thinking.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

What are you even talking about?

Are you even using your brain?

It’s understandable that you have to find justification for any wrong committed by bigoted radicalized extremists Hindu but let’s not assume rest are as ignorant and naive as yourself.

“First of all no one asked Naseer to go to Pakistan until he opened his mouth”.

You must be kidding? The above comment is prime example that you can’t even comprehend your own ignorance, bigoted and racist thinking.

Not sure what are you trying to achieve by using such big words. I have never brought hindu-muslim in this debate. Else I would hv long mentioned that the same Naseeruddin Shah signed mercy petition for Yakub Menon, the terrorist who was responsible for 94 bomb blast in Mumbai. But I guess its becoming a fashion in India, attaching any achronyms with hindus like hindutva terrorist, radicalized hindus etc...but when we say the same about other religion, we became bigoted. So this debate has no end...lets leave it here and stick to the topic.

Every action has a equal and opposite reaction...3rd law of Newton. No one wake up one day in the morning and asked Naseer to leave India. It is him, just to score a political point before general elections, said he fears for his children's life in India. So the reaction came from few(which is natural), then go to Pakistan.

When a padma bivushan winning celebrity like Naseeruddin says he feels threatened in India, that becomes freedom of speech. But if someone says leave India then, they are classified as 'Bigoted' and 'racist'

#Irony

 

[Madplayer]

Dude its not so simple. First of all no one has asked Naseer to go to Pakistan until he opened his mouth saying his kids feel threatened in India. If you cant see this as a political stance just to create a hysteria in media before elections, you are being naive. Ask Amir Khan, he already did this drama in 2015. Didnt Naseer felt threatened when 26/11 happened in Mumbai, the city where he lives? He never said a word back then. But suddenly he is feeling threatened with what is happening in Uttar Pradesh?

Please.

I am hoping (against hope) that this is a non-serious post. It is illogical on so many levels that you cant reply to it with a straight face.

 

[Adijazz1706]

Obligatory 'Thank you Jinnah' aside, this doesn't make much sense. If your kids have no religion, they can be Hindu for a Hindu mob and Muslim for a Muslim mob. Why would they be unsafe either way? And obviously the majority in India i.e. Hindus, are going to protect things sacred to them such as cows. It's like he didn't realize 75% of Indians are Hindus till now

 

[Madplayer]

Obligatory 'Thank you Jinnah' aside, this doesn't make much sense. If your kids have no religion, they can be Hindu for a Hindu mob and Muslim for a Muslim mob. Why would they be unsafe either way?

Because of their names. Unless you name them Number 1 , number 2 and so on.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Politicians/rulers of India live off that fear. They need the 'bogeyman' to divert people's attention to religious differences, caste discriminacions, Pakistan etc. Just keep the circus going on until the next elections, rinse and repeat. Alternative is to actually make India's billion poor peoples' lives better, which was never the plan.

Don't forget Modi is a bona fide murderer of his countrymen. That is if BJP Hindus even consider the Muslims of Gujarat Indians.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deeply regrettable but predictable this vile targeting of Naseeruddin Shah. He has raised a significant concern at a time a govt is more concerned about dead cows and cops. It’s great to have stars of popular culture speak out rather than hide...</p>— Shekhar Gupta (@ShekharGupta) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShekharGupta/status/1076149518863945728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Canford Cliffs]

Shekhar Gupta is a well known left journalist and a cheerleader of award wapasi gang. Anything coming from him or likes of him should be taken with a pinch of salt.

 

[Sidilicious]

Dude its not so simple. First of all no one has asked Naseer to go to Pakistan until he opened his mouth saying his kids feel threatened in India. If you cant see this as a political stance just to create a hysteria in media before elections, you are being naive. Ask Amir Khan, he already did this drama in 2015. Didnt Naseer felt threatened when 26/11 happened in Mumbai, the city where he lives? He never said a word back then. But suddenly he is feeling threatened with what is happening in Uttar Pradesh?

Please.

What a ridiculous post.

Just to overcome the anger I am feeling, I will need to have a beef steak for lunch today. And then a good beef hamburger for dinner.

 

[Abdullah719]

Shekhar Gupta is a well known left journalist and a cheerleader of award wapasi gang. Anything coming from him or likes of him should be taken with a pinch of salt.

I have no idea who Shekhar Gupta is, just came across this in my feed and saw he has 2 million followers.

Speaking of taking things with a pinch of salt, didn't you post something from Arnab Goswami above? I have had the displeasure of listening to clips of his shows and I must say, it was a bad experience.

 

[Sidilicious]

I have no idea who Shekhar Gupta is, just came across this in my feed and saw he has 2 million followers.

Speaking of taking things with a pinch of salt, didn't you post something from Arnab Goswami above? I have had the displeasure of listening to clips of his shows and I must say, it was a bad experience.

Can someone check if Canford Cliff is Arnab Goswami himself?

I feel ashamed to say that Arnab new up in the same city as me. [MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Can someone check if Canford Cliff is Arnab Goswami himself?

I feel ashamed to say that Arnab new up in the same city as me. [MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]

I think rather than getting personal with me, pls respond to the points I have raised. Why seculars always try to divert the topic? Where did Arnab Goswami born has nothing to do with this thread. Sometimes the IQ/debate capability of secular/leftists make me cringe.

I have already stated and will stand by it that this is a political statement by Naseer. If he was genuinely concerned about violence in India, he could hv spoken in other occcassions as well. 26/11 he never felt threatened even though he lived in the same city...but somehow 3 months before election he is feeling threatened with what is happening in UP

Its funny but alarming at the same time that so many of my fellow Indians think its not a political statement.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

I have no idea who Shekhar Gupta is, just came across this in my feed and saw he has 2 million followers.

Speaking of taking things with a pinch of salt, didn't you post something from Arnab Goswami above? I have had the displeasure of listening to clips of his shows and I must say, it was a bad experience.

Shekhar Gupta works in NDTV, a congress paid channel. Like the party itself...the channel is full of scams. Infact there is a viral video where anchors are speaking behind the scene how to defend congress in a debate show. Its the same channel that was raided by CBI for forgery. Its the same channel who refused to show JNU sloganeering but no problems showing when lawyers got beaten down by ABVP. Its the same channel whose journalist got praised by Hafeez Saeed.

So Indians know the truth about NDTV and its reporters. Hence its tv ratings are very poor.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UP outfit books Naseeruddin Shah’s flight ticket to Karachi <a href="https://t.co/FBqIeulFGF">https://t.co/FBqIeulFGF</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/TOICitiesNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TOICitiesNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/mPnPbaePVS">pic.twitter.com/mPnPbaePVS</a></p>— Times of India (@timesofindia) <a href="https://twitter.com/timesofindia/status/1076038312891052032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Naseeruddin Shah turning into Pak agent from "Sarfarosh", says BJP leader <a href="https://t.co/9FcjwIy1z4">https://t.co/9FcjwIy1z4</a> <a href="https://t.co/guDvxi3glQ">pic.twitter.com/guDvxi3glQ</a></p>— NDTV (@ndtv) <a href="https://twitter.com/ndtv/status/1076136693562929153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Naseeruddin Shah should consider moving to Pakistan: Shiv Sena on comments by actor after Bulandshahr violence<br><br>READ: <a href="https://t.co/Gf0373ioqY">https://t.co/Gf0373ioqY</a> <a href="https://t.co/8qUutwAdH2">pic.twitter.com/8qUutwAdH2</a></p>— TIMES NOW (@TimesNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1076427125282861056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Thomaskutty]

Arnab Goswami on Naseeruddin Shah in his debate

https://youtu.be/Beye2PuF7Fw

This is one of the more vacuous episodes i've seen of this show. Instead of doing a deep dive analysis of the substance of the actor's comments and see if they have any merit, about 90% of it is straw-man chatter about some petition Shah signed in the 90s.
Goswami has been awful to watch since he founded his new right wing channel.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

This is what Naseeruddin's brother has to say. Absolutely nailed it

https://twitter.com/i/status/1075818791181766656

 

[Sidilicious]

I think rather than getting personal with me, pls respond to the points I have raised. Why seculars always try to divert the topic? Where did Arnab Goswami born has nothing to do with this thread. Sometimes the IQ/debate capability of secular/leftists make me cringe.

I have already stated and will stand by it that this is a political statement by Naseer. If he was genuinely concerned about violence in India, he could hv spoken in other occcassions as well. 26/11 he never felt threatened even though he lived in the same city...but somehow 3 months before election he is feeling threatened with what is happening in UP

Its funny but alarming at the same time that so many of my fellow Indians think its not a political statement.

Political statement or not, asking Naseeruddin Shah to leave for Pakistan is despicable. And he is stating the truth. UP is going the religious extremists way since that idiot Yogi took over.

Also, I am not a secular. I am an atheist and believe the Indian secular pandering is the root of half the problems. First, with the muslim appeasement and now with Modi and Yogi.

 

[Tusker]

This is what Naseeruddin's brother has to say. Absolutely nailed it

https://twitter.com/i/status/1075818791181766656

I dont get it... can you explain what he meant and the context (Sorry have not been following this news event )

 

[ILcricket]

Cannot fault Shah on anything he said . Modi & goons are a poison to our secular fabric !

 

[Muhammad10]

Can someone check if Canford Cliff is Arnab Goswami himself?

I feel ashamed to say that Arnab new up in the same city as me. [MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]

He might not be Arnab, but he sure is a passionate Indian_Supporter, who loves right wing parties like BJP and Britain First.

 

[RainMan_]

[MENTION=147347]Canford Cliffs[/MENTION]

Why r we seeing this sudden outburst from nassiruddin Shah. Has he always been this outspoken against communal violence or is he trying to get some attention here? Is there any possibility of him getting a a ticket from Congress in the upcoming election? If I'm not wrong communal viloance was pretty common during the period of Congress too.

 

[slipcatch]

Not sure what are you trying to achieve by using such big words. I have never brought hindu-muslim in this debate. Else I would hv long mentioned that the same Naseeruddin Shah signed mercy petition for Yakub Menon, the terrorist who was responsible for 94 bomb blast in Mumbai. But I guess its becoming a fashion in India, attaching any achronyms with hindus like hindutva terrorist, radicalized hindus etc...but when we say the same about other religion, we became bigoted. So this debate has no end...lets leave it here and stick to the topic.

Every action has a equal and opposite reaction...3rd law of Newton. No one wake up one day in the morning and asked Naseer to leave India. It is him, just to score a political point before general elections, said he fears for his children's life in India. So the reaction came from few(which is natural), then go to Pakistan.

When a padma bivushan winning celebrity like Naseeruddin says he feels threatened in India, that becomes freedom of speech. But if someone says leave India then, they are classified as 'Bigoted' and 'racist'

#Irony

After reading your multiple comments it is quite clear you do not understand what bigotry and racism is. And, probably it is so common to you that you are probably unable to understand what that mean as long as you are able to support and promote BJP and RSS, and anyone who promote these two groups.

Equating asking Indian national to leave India by major politicians and a person saying that I currently feel threaten by the rise in extremism in India by Hindu majority isn’t the same. You may and your supporters of radicalized nationalist Hindus may not see the difference but every one wit sane mind does.

Right wing extremists Hindu nationalists made it fashionable for themselves to be labeled as extremists, they thrive on that, it gets them elected by the common majority Hindus.

 

[PakLFC]

Whenever any Indian particularly a Muslim criticises their country why are they told to go to Pakistan? Send him to the UAE or Saudi if you don't like him. Pak has nothing to do with it.

 

[PakLFC]

Pak is not offering Naseer citizenship that India want to send him to us. He's your man, you keep him. Pak did not ask him to say what he did.

 

[MP2011]

Modi and his bhakts have made an absolute joke of India.

Have I become anti national by posting this? Should I move to Pakistan?

 

[MP2011]

Vikas this and Vikas that....Had Modi done any Vikas in his dreadful tenure, he and his cronies won't have been ranting about cows,kabristan and shamshan etc.

 

[MP2011]

Even though I am not a supporter of any political ideology, I think Congress was still thousand times better than bigot BJP.

 

[MP2011]

Pak is not offering Naseer citizenship that India want to send him to us. He's your man, you keep him. Pak did not ask him to say what he did.

Even though Naseer isn't going to Pakistan,trust me Pakistan will be richer to have an actor like him. Tremendous actor...

 

[Syed1]

Hum ne saray anti-national Indians ka theka liya wa hai?

 

[Canford Cliffs]

[MENTION=147347]Canford Cliffs[/MENTION]

Why r we seeing this sudden outburst from nassiruddin Shah. Has he always been this outspoken against communal violence or is he trying to get some attention here? Is there any possibility of him getting a a ticket from Congress in the upcoming election? If I'm not wrong communal viloance was pretty common during the period of Congress too.

Its a political statement before elections which are due in 3 months. There is a concerted effort by few sections of the society to show that India is intolerant towards minorities. And its not the first time, this intolerance non-sense is going on since 2014 and creeps up everytime before elections. Amir Khan said the same couple of years back during UP election.

Naseeruddin Shah will leading a protest march in Delhi along with 450 Artists in february against govt. Its being named as 'Artistes Unite' gang. So he wanted to come to limelight by first accusing Kohli in FB and now this rant.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Not sure what are you trying to achieve by using such big words. I have never brought hindu-muslim in this debate. Else I would hv long mentioned that the same Naseeruddin Shah signed mercy petition for Yakub Menon, the terrorist who was responsible for 94 bomb blast in Mumbai. But I guess its becoming a fashion in India, attaching any achronyms with hindus like hindutva terrorist, radicalized hindus etc...but when we say the same about other religion, we became bigoted. So this debate has no end...lets leave it here and stick to the topic.

Every action has a equal and opposite reaction...3rd law of Newton. No one wake up one day in the morning and asked Naseer to leave India. It is him, just to score a political point before general elections, said he fears for his children's life in India. So the reaction came from few(which is natural), then go to Pakistan.

When a padma bivushan winning celebrity like Naseeruddin says he feels threatened in India, that becomes freedom of speech. But if someone says leave India then, they are classified as 'Bigoted' and 'racist'

#Irony

Non muslims feel threatened by Islamic extremists : Islamophobia

Muslim saying he is afraid,despite the fact that he lives a elite life, see XYZ religion extremism is rising.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Shekhar Gupta works in NDTV, a congress paid channel. Like the party itself...the channel is full of scams. Infact there is a viral video where anchors are speaking behind the scene how to defend congress in a debate show. Its the same channel that was raided by CBI for forgery. Its the same channel who refused to show JNU sloganeering but no problems showing when lawyers got beaten down by ABVP. Its the same channel whose journalist got praised by Hafeez Saeed.

So Indians know the truth about NDTV and its reporters. Hence its tv ratings are very poor.

Could you point out that video? I know NDTV is biased but this is shocking if true.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Could you point out that video? I know NDTV is biased but this is shocking if true.

https://youtu.be/cltCoiVvmF8

 

[Swashbuckler]

https://youtu.be/cltCoiVvmF8

Don't understand Hindi, don't know whether that audio bit is real or tampered, don't know in what context it was said. But thanks for the video, I never had good opinion about NDTV. They are sellouts just like almost every other media house in India.

 

[Sidilicious]

Don't understand Hindi, don't know whether that audio bit is real or tampered, don't know in what context it was said. But thanks for the video, I never had good opinion about NDTV. They are sellouts just like almost every other media house in India.

I dont listen to Indian news much because it is very hard to trust any news channel. All channels are associated with one of the political parties and always have an agenda. Just getting the news and facts is next to impossible in India.

I have been told that "The Hindu" is the only newspaper that can be considered credible. Hope someone in India can confirm that.

 

[PakLFC]

Even though Naseer isn't going to Pakistan,trust me Pakistan will be richer to have an actor like him. Tremendous actor...

No one is questioning his acting ability. I don't want him in Pak though.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

I dont listen to Indian news much because it is very hard to trust any news channel. All channels are associated with one of the political parties and always have an agenda. Just getting the news and facts is next to impossible in India.

I have been told that "The Hindu" is the only newspaper that can be considered credible. Hope someone in India can confirm that.

'The Hindu' is the most anti-hindu newspaper in India.

But overall I agree, print media is more reliable than TRP craving television news channels. And its not only in India...in almost every country tv news channels are propaganda mediums for political parties. CNN has to be the most biased channel ever. Indian media is saint infront of them.

 

[Sidilicious]

'The Hindu' is the most anti-hindu newspaper in India.

But overall I agree, print media is more reliable than TRP craving television news channels. And its not only in India...in almost every country tv news channels are propaganda mediums for political parties. CNN has to be the most biased channel ever. Indian media is saint infront of them.

Well, its the same in the UK too. You can easily how the media is divided. Though, the BBC is somewhat better in these aspects.

If you think CNN is bad, listen to Fox once in a while.

Are there no channels in India with a reliable source? Its hard to difficult to listen to Arnab Goswami without getting a torn eardrum and never can I trust the words coming out of Barkha Dutt.

 

[Sidilicious]

'The Hindu' is the most anti-hindu newspaper in India.

But overall I agree, print media is more reliable than TRP craving television news channels. And its not only in India...in almost every country tv news channels are propaganda mediums for political parties. CNN has to be the most biased channel ever. Indian media is saint infront of them.

Found this very interesting video about Indian media.

https://youtu.be/wfF5Q17lYy4

The most interesting part is 8:30 to 11:30

This kid will go places.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Found this very interesting video about Indian media.

https://youtu.be/wfF5Q17lYy4

The most interesting part is 8:30 to 11:30

This kid will go places.

Dhruv Raathe?

He is a perpetual liar and runs his anti BJP agenda sitting in Germany. He blocked me from his FB page after I tried to counter question him. According to him, only Arvind Kejriwal is the real leader in India and AAP is the greates party ever