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Naseeruddin Shah says he fears for his children in India of today

A joke :)

Bhakts : if you do not like India go to Pakistan .

Kashmir : okay

Bhakts : oye , not you :bash:
 
He's back.


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Not sure what journalists are moaning about, every other Indian political article these days is anti government - nothing wrong with that the press should hold the government to account but this wouldn't be happening if journalist's are really being silenced as Amnesty, Shah etc are now alleging.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
Not sure what journalists are moaning about, every other Indian political article these days is anti government - nothing wrong with that the press should hold the government to account but this wouldn't be happening if journalist's are really being silenced as Amnesty, Shah etc are now alleging.
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Amnesty was illegally operating in India and hob nobing with maoists. Since ED raided them and shut their OPs down they are up in arms.

An american NGO and its subsidiary can claim no right to work in India.
 
cricketjoshila said:
For what? Supporting a american NGO? Now india must allow american ngos to have a say in how india is run? Right?

Mr Shah openly supported and help establish a website againist Modi in 2013.


https://www.indiatoday.in/india/nor...bsite-pheku-to-take-on-modi-174720-2013-08-23

Then he talks about he had great expectation?

Shah is doing a political gimmick and has no buyers.
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What was wrong in his message? And doesn't he have FOE? So by making a 2 minute video he is supporting the NGOs attempts to have a say in how India is run? Are you sure it is American run?

I don't care about what he did in 2013 or what his expectations were back then, or his opinion about Modi.

How do you know he has no buyers? Have you taken a survey?
 
Swashbuckler said:
What was wrong in his message? And doesn't he have FOE? So by making a 2 minute video he is supporting the NGOs attempts to have a say in how India is run? Are you sure it is American run?

I don't care about what he did in 2013 or what his expectations were back then, or his opinion about Modi.

How do you know he has no buyers? Have you taken a survey?
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Amnesty international is a British NGO, Amnesty india is its branch in India. Sorry for the confusion.

He is speaking for Amnesty which was raided by the ED for illegal funds transfer from outside India and hob nobing with maoists. So now govt has to ask Shah before taking action againist foreign Ngos?

Shah did the same in 2015 during some state elections. He is a political pawn doing the bidding of his masters.

He is a anti modi guy since before Modi became PM. So his views on Modi are biased.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Amnesty international is a British NGO, Amnesty india is its branch in India. Sorry for the confusion.

He is speaking for Amnesty which was raided by the ED for illegal funds transfer from outside India and hob nobing with maoists. So now govt has to ask Shah before taking action againist foreign Ngos?

Shah did the same in 2015 during some state elections. He is a political pawn doing the bidding of his masters.

He is a anti modi guy since before Modi became PM. So his views on Modi are biased.
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I am sure some tall BJP leaders have spoken on VHP/Bajrang Dal/XYZ Sena/Sanatan Sanstha platforms. And those too have come under investigation for extremism, riots, killings, lynchings etc. Should I bring all that or will that be inconvenient?

Govt doesn't need to ask Shah anything, let them take action against NGOs if they are indulging in anti national activities. But they can't prevent him form exercisng his freedom of speech. Has he done something seditious or taken a stance against the nation/constitution. Maybe he is doing political bidding for someone, maybe he feels strongly about certain things like many of the common folk. In a democracy is that prohibited?

He may be anti Modi, what's the big deal. Modi isn't India, India isn't Modi. I am sure Modi supporters too hold biases against certain other people. This is a democracy and these things are part and parcel.
 
Always funny when the rich elite talk about feeling unsafe. Would take his claims seriously if he was actually under threat. otherwise laugh and move on.
 
Swashbuckler said:
I am sure some tall BJP leaders have spoken on VHP/Bajrang Dal/XYZ Sena/Sanatan Sanstha platforms. And those too have come under investigation for extremism, riots, killings, lynchings etc. Should I bring all that or will that be inconvenient?

Govt doesn't need to ask Shah anything, let them take action against NGOs if they are indulging in anti national activities. But they can't prevent him form exercisng his freedom of speech. Has he done something seditious or taken a stance against the nation/constitution. Maybe he is doing political bidding for someone, maybe he feels strongly about certain things like many of the common folk. In a democracy is that prohibited?

He may be anti Modi, what's the big deal. Modi isn't India, India isn't Modi. I am sure Modi supporters too hold biases against certain other people. This is a democracy and these things are part and parcel.
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Are VHP or Bajrang Dal or XYZ Sena a banned terrorist organisation in India? Do they attack the Indian state or police or army or paramilitary and kill them? If not then there is no comparision to the Maoists who are a banned terror organisation in India and have killed many Indians.

He is speaking in support of foreign Ngos who are involved in illegal activities. He is being criticised for that. FOE in democracy is not a one way street. If Shah is airing his views, people will also air their views on him.

He can be as anti Modi as he can be. Thsts his right. But then he should not lie about it and say i expected big things from Modi etc etc. Secondly he like some others is forgetting the difference between being Anti Modi and Anti India.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Are VHP or Bajrang Dal or XYZ Sena a banned terrorist organisation in India? Do they attack the Indian state or police or army or paramilitary and kill them? If not then there is no comparision to the Maoists who are a banned terror organisation in India and have killed many Indians.

He is speaking in support of foreign Ngos who are involved in illegal activities. He is being criticised for that. FOE in democracy is not a one way street. If Shah is airing his views, people will also air their views on him.

He can be as anti Modi as he can be. Thsts his right. But then he should not lie about it and say i expected big things from Modi etc etc. Secondly he like some others is forgetting the difference between being Anti Modi and Anti India.
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Is Amnesty a banned terrorist organization? I don't think Shah appeared in a Maoist run video campaign in Bastar. He appeared in a video of an organization that isn't banned in the country.

Recently a Bajrang Dal member was arrested for killing a cop in UP who was discharging his duty. And in a civilian democracy all lives matter. These RW groups have attacked Indian citizens and that is bad enough.

Banning NGOs is not Shah's domain of expertise. If the agencies can prove the serious charges, let them ban it. Shah can air his views, let other air counter views, I don't mind as long as it isn't reduced to violent threats from extremist organizations.

He can be anti-Modi and also expect great things, we don't have an insight into his brain. Sometimes when people are assigned big responsibility they change, maybe he was hoping for that. Problem with some nationalists is they confuse Modi with India, has happened in the past too when Indira was India and India was Indira, then we had emergency.
 
Swashbuckler said:
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Recently a Bajrang Dal member was arrested for killing a cop in UP who was discharging his duty. And in a civilian democracy all lives matter. These RW groups have attacked Indian citizens and that is bad enough.
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If a criminal happens to belong to a political outfit, why blame that political group? do you blame a religion if a criminal happens to be from a particular religion?
 
CricketCartoons said:
If a criminal happens to belong to a political outfit, why blame that political group? do you blame a religion if a criminal happens to be from a particular religion?
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But Shah can be blamed for appearing in an Amnesty video because some Amnesty workers have alleged links with people who have alleged links with Maoists? Makes total sense.
 
Swashbuckler said:
But Shah can be blamed for appearing in an Amnesty video because some Amnesty workers have alleged links with people who have alleged links with Maoists? Makes total sense.
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You failed to understand. Blame the person, not the political group he may belong to. Therefore shah can be blamed for his dishonest views. It is always funny when the rich say they are unsafe. When was his son attacked or even threatened? But he is saying he fears for his sons. This was a gimmick to evoke reaction from idiots who will now say stuff about him and he will use it to self fulfil his prophesy. this is a political trap by shah on the behest of his masters.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Is Modi seen as a holy figure by his supporters such that supporting or establishing a critical website would be seen as an act of blasphemy in India?
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It is to expose the lies of shah and his agenda, who recently said that he had high expectation from Modi, when in reality he was against him from the beginning.
 
CricketCartoons said:
It is to expose the lies of shah and his agenda, who recently said that he had high expectation from Modi, when in reality he was against him from the beginning.
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This is not necessarily an example of subterfuge. Could be Shah had high expectations of some of Modi's financial projects, but feared the effects of the communal division which Modi often supports.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Is Modi seen as a holy figure by his supporters such that supporting or establishing a critical website would be seen as an act of blasphemy in India?
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No he is no holy figure. But Shah is a critic of Modi even before he became PM. So his bias is well known. Thats why when Shah comes out with statements like i expected XYZ from Modi but he disappointed, its hogwash.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
This is not necessarily an example of subterfuge. Could be Shah had high expectations of some of Modi's financial projects, but feared the effects of the communal division which Modi often supports.
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as usual you are talking crap. show some evidence that modi "often supports" communal division. also that shah had high expectation from modi's financial projects.
 
Still trying to figure out what was said that made Bhakt so upset?

There is ample amount of evidence that minority in India is persecuted on daily basis.

There is also ample amount of evidence of increase persecution of minority under Modi's government.

Now a genuine question to Bhakts, the fake bearer of Hindu religion, the delusional one's of India, why are you upset for someone speaking the truth?
 
slipcatch said:
Still trying to figure out what was said that made Bhakt so upset?

There is ample amount of evidence that minority in India is persecuted on daily basis.

There is also ample amount of evidence of increase persecution of minority under Modi's government.

Now a genuine question to Bhakts, the fake bearer of Hindu religion, the delusional one's of India, why are you upset for someone speaking the truth?
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minorities have been persecuted since india existed, why is he suddenly feeling afraid now. why didn't he speak up when there were regular bombings in the city where he lives. what has changed now? rhetorical question, don't need to answer.

cowards and traitors should leave india if they feel unsafe.
 
CricketCartoons said:
minorities have been persecuted since india existed, why is he suddenly feeling afraid now. why didn't he speak up when there were regular bombings in the city where he lives. what has changed now? rhetorical question, don't need to answer.

cowards and traitors should leave india if they feel unsafe.
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Not speaking against violence against minority and defending every wrong by the majority is cowardliness, too.

It is okay for to speak against someone who hijack your beliefs and make it look barbaric against minority.
 
slipcatch said:
Not speaking against violence against minority and defending every wrong by the majority is cowardliness, too.

It is okay for to speak against someone who hijack your beliefs and make it look barbaric against minority.
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cowardliness is only when you are against something and yet don't speak against it.
 
CricketCartoons said:
as usual you are talking crap. show some evidence that modi "often supports" communal division. also that shah had high expectation from modi's financial projects.
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I said "could be" that Shah had high expectations from Modi's financial projects, the "could be" signifying that this was a theory, not something I am passing off as fact. If you believe that is definitively incorrect then you need to provide evidence. As for Modi supporting communal violence, his watch as Chief Minister of Gujarat saw communal riots which he failed to control, since becoming PM he has appointed ministers who have continued to stoke communal tension.

You have claimed in no uncertain terms that I am talking crap, also qualifying that statement by saying it is a usual trait. Can you provide evidence please? And no, my having never won a POTW award doesn't count, that is a highly subjective judgement with it's own criteria.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Is Amnesty a banned terrorist organization? I don't think Shah appeared in a Maoist run video campaign in Bastar. He appeared in a video of an organization that isn't banned in the country.

Recently a Bajrang Dal member was arrested for killing a cop in UP who was discharging his duty. And in a civilian democracy all lives matter. These RW groups have attacked Indian citizens and that is bad enough.

Banning NGOs is not Shah's domain of expertise. If the agencies can prove the serious charges, let them ban it. Shah can air his views, let other air counter views, I don't mind as long as it isn't reduced to violent threats from extremist organizations.

He can be anti-Modi and also expect great things, we don't have an insight into his brain. Sometimes when people are assigned big responsibility they change, maybe he was hoping for that. Problem with some nationalists is they confuse Modi with India, has happened in the past too when Indira was India and India was Indira, then we had emergency.
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Amnesty is under ED investigation for illegal funds transfer and maoist links. Coming out and saying that NGOs are bring suppressed and supporting Amnesty will invite criticism from various quarters. Shah is not immune from criticism.

Bajrang Dal as a organisation doesnot support that killing. They havent come out in support of that person either.

How can you be Anti Modi and then say i expected great things from him. Shah can criticise Modi as much as he wants. But hypocrisy will be called out by people. Shah makes political statements and he will get political answers.

Nationalists dont confuse Modi with India. Rather anti Modi people confuse support for the nationalist moves of Modi as support for Modi.

Can you tell me how many major terror attacks have taken place in India except J and K after Midi came to power? And how many happened during Congress rule?
 
Europeans killed off Jews en masse, an ethnic minority whose crime was to punch above its weight in politics, culture and business ; Shah belongs to a minority which glorifies the genocide of the majority through its collective memory, even more so as a descendant of Afghans, the single most Hindu hating race in history ; he should feel content that Hindus haven’t acted like Europeans despite going through way worse instead of playing the victim card, or else join PK, state created by/for the elite he belongs to, to avoid what he complains about now.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Amnesty is under ED investigation for illegal funds transfer and maoist links. Coming out and saying that NGOs are bring suppressed and supporting Amnesty will invite criticism from various quarters. Shah is not immune from criticism.

Bajrang Dal as a organisation doesnot support that killing. They havent come out in support of that person either.

How can you be Anti Modi and then say i expected great things from him. Shah can criticise Modi as much as he wants. But hypocrisy will be called out by people. Shah makes political statements and he will get political answers.

Nationalists dont confuse Modi with India. Rather anti Modi people confuse support for the nationalist moves of Modi as support for Modi.

Can you tell me how many major terror attacks have taken place in India except J and K after Midi came to power? And how many happened during Congress rule?
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Let the investigation be completed.

People are free to criticize anyone, Shah is free to give his opinion. When did I say opinions must be curtailed. I only said violent threats have no place in our society.

Amnesty has never come out and said that they support Maoists. They may have a few bad people working in it but how can we malign the globally reputed organization?

Mandela was a terrorist, then changed. Same with that Palestinian leader Arafat. People change, it might have been Naseer's expectation that with added responsibility as PM, Modi would have changed his outlook and become a statesman like Vajpayee taking everyone along. Or may be he had high expectations regarding infrastructure development that made him famous as Gujarat CM. We don't know in what context he was talking or what went through his mind.

Based on my interactions with people, some so called nationalists do confuse Modi with the nation.

JK is in greater turmoil now than it has been since the 90s. Don't think his Kashmir policy has worked well, rather it has alienated the youth more which is increasing radicalization. Our army bases have suffered terror attacks, I still hear of Maoist attacks and bomb blasts in North East India. Khalistan movement seems to have picked up steam. Worst part is terror in the form of lynchings has increased, that too kills our citizens just like terror attacks. But I do concede that our cities are safer from bomb blasts and major attacks which was common during UPA time. But terror has reduced even in Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. A more holistic study is required to understand this which is beyond my scope. Also we need concrete data about terrorism killings year by year. How is this related to the thread topic unless we are talking about NDA's performance since 2014?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I said "could be" that Shah had high expectations from Modi's financial projects, the "could be" signifying that this was a theory, not something I am passing off as fact. If you believe that is definitively incorrect then you need to provide evidence. As for Modi supporting communal violence, his watch as Chief Minister of Gujarat saw communal riots which he failed to control, since becoming PM he has appointed ministers who have continued to stoke communal tension.

You have claimed in no uncertain terms that I am talking crap, also qualifying that statement by saying it is a usual trait. Can you provide evidence please? And no, my having never won a POTW award doesn't count, that is a highly subjective judgement with it's own criteria.
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that shah had high expectation from modi's financial projects was a pure guess from you without based on anything. crap logic.

coming to modi stoking communal tension. you said his watch saw communal riots which he failed to control. there was only one, and failing to control is not the same as "often supports" or stoking riots. another crap logic from you. people like nehru have failed in controlling riots. modi brought in the army just 1 day after the riots, yet even the army took a day or two to fully control it. I dare you to discuss modi's complicity in riots if you are brave enough stand by your convictions.
 
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Naseeruddin Shah Stranded At Assam Airport For 2 Hours

Naseeruddin Shah, who was recently in news for his remark on mob violence and alleged government crackdown on NGOs, came to attend the Kartik Hazarika National Theatre Festival being held in Tezpur in Assam's Sonitpur district.

Guwahati: Actor Naseeruddin Shah was among a host of air passengers who were stranded for hours at the airports across Assam for hours due to non-availability of public transport following an 11-hour bandh called by various organisations on Tuesday.
A number of students' organisations and political parties called for a 'bandh' in the Northeast to protest the Citizenship Amendment Bill which seeks to provide Indian citizenship to non-Muslims from Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The passengers complained that they faced a lot of difficulty during the bandh period as no taxis, auto rickshaws or buses were available for them to either reach the airports or reach the city after landing.

Transport was available only after the bandh ended at 4 pm.

Naseeruddin Shah, who was recently in news for his remark on mob violence and alleged government crackdown on NGOs, came to attend the Kartik Hazarika National Theatre Festival being held in Tezpur in Assam's Sonitpur district.

Organisers of the theatre festival said Mr Shah had to wait for two hours at the Lokpriya Gopinath Bordoloi International Airport till the organisers arranged a car for him after the end of the bandh period.

In all the airports, hundreds of passengers were seen stranded at the arrival terminal.

Jet Airways issued a waiver on penalties for passengers' inability to fly Tuesday.

"Considering the situation in the Northeast India, we've issued a waiver on penalties for date/flight change, refund, no-show, fare difference if any, on all confirmed tickets for flights operating to and from Guwahati, Silchar, Jorhat, Imphal & Aizawl on 8th January 2019," Jet Airways said in a tweet.

Another airline GoIndigo also advised its passengers to keep extra time in hand for their travel to the airport.

Besides the bandh over Citizenship Bill, the All Assam Joint Forum of Motor Transport Workers called a ''chaka bandh'' Tuesday over their demands.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/nas...loi-international-airport-for-2-hours-1974728
 
gazza619 said:
Naseeruddin Shah, who was recently in news for his remark on mob violence and alleged government crackdown on NGOs, came to attend the Kartik Hazarika National Theatre Festival being held in Tezpur in Assam's Sonitpur district.

Guwahati: Actor Naseeruddin Shah was among a host of air passengers who were stranded for hours at the airports across Assam for hours due to non-availability of public transport following an 11-hour bandh called by various organisations on Tuesday.
A number of students' organisations and political parties called for a 'bandh' in the Northeast to protest the Citizenship Amendment Bill which seeks to provide Indian citizenship to non-Muslims from Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

The passengers complained that they faced a lot of difficulty during the bandh period as no taxis, auto rickshaws or buses were available for them to either reach the airports or reach the city after landing.

Transport was available only after the bandh ended at 4 pm.

Naseeruddin Shah, who was recently in news for his remark on mob violence and alleged government crackdown on NGOs, came to attend the Kartik Hazarika National Theatre Festival being held in Tezpur in Assam's Sonitpur district.

Organisers of the theatre festival said Mr Shah had to wait for two hours at the Lokpriya Gopinath Bordoloi International Airport till the organisers arranged a car for him after the end of the bandh period.

In all the airports, hundreds of passengers were seen stranded at the arrival terminal.

Jet Airways issued a waiver on penalties for passengers' inability to fly Tuesday.

"Considering the situation in the Northeast India, we've issued a waiver on penalties for date/flight change, refund, no-show, fare difference if any, on all confirmed tickets for flights operating to and from Guwahati, Silchar, Jorhat, Imphal & Aizawl on 8th January 2019," Jet Airways said in a tweet.

Another airline GoIndigo also advised its passengers to keep extra time in hand for their travel to the airport.

Besides the bandh over Citizenship Bill, the All Assam Joint Forum of Motor Transport Workers called a ''chaka bandh'' Tuesday over their demands.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/nas...loi-international-airport-for-2-hours-1974728
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BJP has always been vindictive, this should not come as a surprise. They're just validating what Naseer has been saying all along.
 
MP2011 said:
BJP has always been vindictive, this should not come as a surprise. They're just validating what Naseer has been saying all along.
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So NE parties doing a bandh to oppose the BJP sponsored Citizenship Amendment Bill is BJP being vindictive.LOL.

Shah is political tool and has been doing this since 2013.Nothing new.
 
Wondering if there is any statement from Nasiruddin Shah on the recent terror attack. Is he not fearful now?
 
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