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Nasser Hussain about MS Dhoni's & K Jadhav's batting: "I am completely baffled by this"

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Completely baffled by the strategy of the Indian batsmen at the end:

You have wickets in hand, an opportunity to quality for the semi finals, your fans watching you in numbers and you still on purpose don’t take risks to try win the game and accept defeat? Shocking!!!!!! Where is the fighting spirit?
 
Sourav Ganguly "You cannot be chasing 338 to win and still have 5 wickets in hand."

"I don't have an explanation for this. Will there be questions asked in the dressing room, just what were you doing out there?" #ENGvIND
 
Shameful display from both. I predicted the same earlier too. Dhoni is done and Jadhav cannot clear boundaries here I. England. India will be in deep soup, if in future matches they depend on these players if the asking rate is >10.

Such shameful chase as today can only be rivaled with that of Nayan Mongia and Prabhakar. They robbed the hard earned money of the fans who bought the tickets with such shameful display.

I would have been happy to lose by 60 runs trying rather this shameful display.
 
Dhoni is well past his due date. This is the guy who booted out non performing senior players during his captaincy.

The hypocrisy of it is mind boggling.
 
Jhadav is garbage. Have never seen him even give the impression of being a match winner with the bat, am pretty sure there are better hard hitting batsmen in India than him.
 
Where is Viru bhaag, who I feel is Dhoni in disguise. He will definitely come up with a theory that this batting of Dhoni was so beautiful and crucial that it helped improve our eventual NRR. Utter shameful batting. So sad to see such a great man eking out innings like these and robbing fans of the game to see a spirited display.
 
The amount of excuses and slack that gets cut for Dhoni is unbelievable. Its almost like he is a god like figure who can't be dropped.
 
India were scoring at about 10 runs from 32 and over onwards till 40 th, so chances were there. See, one needs to give his 100% which these two players with their shameful display did not.
 
Not over. One big over was all needed. A 20 run over. Asking rate would have drastically reduced. Towards the end Stokes smoked a few fours and sixes and took them to 338.

One big over and RRR would have come down to under 9 instead going up all the time. You don't have to score 10-11 every over.

The only difference I see between Pak chasing 45 in last 5 overs vs today for India is perhaps instead of 1 big over two would have been necessary in last 10 overs. Still very much possible and Rashid could have been Gulbadin for India but instead he went for 5 singles.
 
Shameful display from both. I predicted the same earlier too. Dhoni is done and Jadhav cannot clear boundaries here I. England. India will be in deep soup, if in future matches they depend on these players if the asking rate is >10.

Such shameful chase as today can only be rivaled with that of Nayan Mongia and Prabhakar. They robbed the hard earned money of the fans who bought the tickets with such shameful display.

I would have been happy to lose by 60 runs trying rather this shameful display.

I'm happy you're upset at them but you need to focus on the lack of intent, not the ability. Any tail-ender would have tried to hit out in that situation. It was clear that Dhoni and Jadhav did not even try and that is very concerning if you're not a hardcore Pakistani-hater.
 
that CT final defeat has struck them hard
they don't wanna face us in a knockout again, that was obvious from there approach
 
Dhoni was really bad and so was Jadhav. Just nudging around at that stage was sad to see.
 
Lets not over react. England bowled very well but the lack of effort on the part of some batsmen was odd.

But in the end, Pakistan should have qualified on merit. We still can if the margin of victory takes our RR above NZ.
 
MSD was the biggest boon till 2014/15 and has turned to the biggest bane there after. He was a street smart cricketer and now the most crooked calculative politician. He became bigger than the game and is still relevant because of his irrational fan base, one step ahead of the SRT brigade. If BCCI can appoint a clown like MSK Prasad to head the selection committee, keeping MSD in the squad is just a cakewalk.
I thought MSD was a dignified player and would know when to hang up the boots. He took the selfishness of SRT, Ganguli etc. to a new level.
I sincerely hope commonsense will prevail and he will be forced to go after our SF debacle. Thank you for the memories, but you need to go MS before even your die-hard fans start questioning your relevance in the team. Just go. A successful career int he politics awaits for you.
Hope Kohli will retire gracefully! So far only Dravid has done that.
 
Lets not over react. England bowled very well but the lack of effort on the part of some batsmen was odd.

But in the end, Pakistan should have qualified on merit. We still can if the margin of victory takes our RR above NZ.

Forget Pakistan

Indian fans turned up in large numbers, paid good money only for their team not trying to win. Even Kohli said this needs to be discussed and im assuming he was not happy in the dressing room watching this farce of a ending.
 
that CT final defeat has struck them hard
they don't wanna face us in a knockout again, that was obvious from there approach

I don't believe in all these stuff, Dhoni simply is done, he is gone, you can see any match man of recent times, you will be shocked to see his way of playing and attitude. I raised the same issue with regards to Afghanistan match and some genius PPers here were saying to the contrary. I'm sad to see such a shameful display, we all cousins and friends gathered at our home to watch a spirited display and that hurt us.

Kohli was in superb form today who gave his best, Rohit after his initial scratchy innings settled in well and was looking ominous and set for a big score, Hardik gave his 100%, Pant showed intent from the start. See, I'm happy with such display but throwing your towel well before the match is ended like Dhoni and Jadhav did today is utterly disgraceful.

They are not capable of lifting themselves up, forget about the CT stuff and all.
 
They arent good enough for that situation. Simple as that. Dhoni is past it for those situations. And Jahdav will never be good enough.
 
I'm happy you're upset at them but you need to focus on the lack of intent, not the ability. Any tail-ender would have tried to hit out in that situation. It was clear that Dhoni and Jadhav did not even try and that is very concerning if you're not a hardcore Pakistani-hater.

Of course I would be, I'm watching cricket for long and appreciate good cricket. I was rooting for India/Pak match for the semi-final. I already created posts weeks back about Dhoni's and Jadhav's display and their lack of intent during Afghanistan match. Really sad to see such display as today for a true cricketing fan, I did not even think of Pak and all that possibility, India is good enough to defeat anyone that's why I was really sad to see today's display.
 
Not over. One big over was all needed. A 20 run over. Asking rate would have drastically reduced. Towards the end Stokes smoked a few fours and sixes and took them to 338.

Exactly. Shami was taken for 35 in his last 2 overs. if India could have replicated that with 100 needed off last 10, the RRR wouldve actually come down to only 8/over.
 
Dhoni has been losing India matches like this for a while. Can potentially cost them the WC.
 
It's mahi way nasser. Unfortunately coward kohli & shastri doesn't have guts to take stand against dhoni.
 
He'll use this performance during his political rallies a few years from now. I'm sure a lot of Hindutva goons are very happy with what he did today.
Nah... Any rational fan will understand that he didn't do it intentionally, he simply lost the his ability and feeding off his past reputation for the last 4-5 years now.
Let me assure you that only a microscopic portion of Indian fans will celebrate this loss because the result may hamper Pakistani progress in the WC.
 
It is smart move if you don’t want repeat of Champion Trophy 2017. Pakistan on red form is unpredictable.
 
A typical Dhoni inning. A truly sad display and I hope Kohli being the competitor that he is fuming with the way that innings unfolded.
 
I apologize to Pakistan fans that they had to witness a cowardly, gutless innings was Dhoni which totally killed any momentum we had towards reaching the target. For us Indian fans, its normal to see Dhoni play this way but i am sure Pak fans would feel it was deliberate lack of intent. I felt same way after Misbah 2011 mohali innings. India were in the match when Pandya was on crease. Later, England choked his run flow by bowling him length bowls outside off stump and fortifying the long off and midwicket region. Since, Pandya doesnt play scoops or square of the wicket, he holed out to deep mid on. I think match was over by then. Dhoni uncle is way past his expiry date. He is still in the team just because of his political/media connections. I hope Pak makes to semi finals. It is still a possibility.
 
We shouldnt care!
If the WC is in PAKS destiny we will go to the semis.

At least they cant say they did us a favour.
 
Nah... Any rational fan will understand that he didn't do it intentionally, he simply lost the his ability and feeding off his past reputation for the last 4-5 years now.
Let me assure you that only a microscopic portion of Indian fans will celebrate this loss because the result may hamper Pakistani progress in the WC.

Dude, any tail-ender would have tried to hit out, regardless of their lack of ability. Dhoni can certainly still hit boundaries, he did hit a perfectly good six when India needed 40-odd in the last over. He simply did not want to.
 
Yes we saw that against Afghanistan.

You mean how Pakistan won from an improbable position? That is exactly the Pakistan team to be afraid of. If your English team reaches the KO stages, they'll get crushed yet again.
 
One big over and RRR would have come down to under 9 instead going up all the time. You don't have to score 10-11 every over.

The only difference I see between Pak chasing 45 in last 5 overs vs today for India is perhaps instead of 1 big over two would have been necessary in last 10 overs. Still very much possible and Rashid could have been Gulbadin for India but instead he went for 5 singles.

now that over was suspicious, we all know pandya and hitting sixers. Didnt even try to hit one in that over..
 
Where is Viru bhaag, who I feel is Dhoni in disguise. He will definitely come up with a theory that this batting of Dhoni was so beautiful and crucial that it helped improve our eventual NRR. Utter shameful batting. So sad to see such a great man eking out innings like these and robbing fans of the game to see a spirited display.

Learn to tag people in forums first. And who are you? Vijay Dahiya in disguise?
[MENTION=140806]jnaveen1980[/MENTION] Dhoni had too much in his plate. You needed a scapegoat in this match and you have once again chosen Dhoni. Your Pant and Pandya didn't live upto hype one more time and you had to vent your frustration on Dhoni.

You also forgot to mention KL Rahul, indian bowlers poor bowling. I just wonder who will be the next scapegoat for you guys once Dhoni retires. Surely they won't be tullaybaaz Pant or Pandya? :inti
 
Dhoni has been known to play strategically and is one of teh smartest player in the game. I would question Naseer for not giving credit to his own country for bowling so well and killing it for the Indians. These were #1 & #2 ranked teams playing not minnows as some like to call them. I would give any one of these to win on any day. Just depends which team plays and executes well
 
Not sure how people are saying oh they’re not good enough. That can’t explain the clear lack of intent shown by them. How can you be tapping the ball around for a single when you’re needing 15+ rpo? Even tailenders, who obviously aren’t good enough, would atleast try and swing their bat.
 
Only think that was a bit off was Rashid over. Pandya normally murders spin.

Yeah that struck me as a bit odd too, Pandya almost showed no intent in that over. Why?

Seems to me like Dhoni was already calling the shots, 'take the match deep and don't take risks against Rashid, Eng are bowling him for that reason' , but when the RRR is 10 po, logic says you really should be targetting the spinner.
 
Learn to tag people in forums first. And who are you? Vijay Dahiya in disguise?

[MENTION=140806]jnaveen1980[/MENTION] Dhoni had too much in his plate. You needed a scapegoat in this match and you have once again chosen Dhoni. Your Pant and Pandya didn't live upto hype one more time and you had to vent your frustration on Dhoni.

You also forgot to mention KL Rahul, indian bowlers poor bowling. I just wonder who will be the next scapegoat for you guys once Dhoni retires. Surely they won't be tullaybaaz Pant or Pandya? :inti

Tully baaz they may be but definitely better than shameful displays of batting of Dhoni and Jadhav. KL Rahul also belongs in that category... As if, Dhoni is technique personified and is second coming of Len Hutton and Gavaskar in technique.

Dhoni/Jadhav should retire now just after this utter shameful display. And, today Dhoni Review System also costed India dearly.

Dhoni was a great player, not anymore and these are not IPL matches where he can afford to play how he wishes. And, how he can intimidate umpires by running into the ground in IPL matches... :inti
 
it was dhoni jadhav incapability plus the nrr under consideration. although it was deliberate /decision by the team the decision to play like that was dhoni n jadhavs incapability.
 
Sourav Ganguly "You cannot be chasing 338 to win and still have 5 wickets in hand."

"I don't have an explanation for this. Will there be questions asked in the dressing room, just what were you doing out there?" #ENGvIND

Exactly when was the last time a team was 5 down and passed the 300 mark and couldn’t chase a target of 338 that has probably never happened in the history of the game because if you are actually going for it you end up losing 8 or 9 wickets atleast
 
England bowled well and set the correct field. People need to move on and not rely on conspiracy theories.
 
listen Modi and his supporters would have literally never forgiven the team had they won.

Come on we all know the mentality.
 
If this was a WC SF or a final Ind would not have batted like this and it was obvious they didn't care about winning. But as I said earlier, I don't blame Ind, it's not their job to get us through. That awful performance against the Windies has cost us a place in the SF.
 
Lets not over react. England bowled very well but the lack of effort on the part of some batsmen was odd.

But in the end, Pakistan should have qualified on merit. We still can if the margin of victory takes our RR above NZ.

But You expect us to qualified and go all the way.
I have marked your words &#55357;&#56833;
 
It is smart move if you don’t want repeat of Champion Trophy 2017. Pakistan on red form is unpredictable.

Red form? You mean scraping a win vs afghans with all the umpires decisions going your way?
 
The lack of intent was very strange.

As far as I aware that there is no such thing as a draw in a ODI. It seemed like Dhoni was playing fora draw and had no intention to chase the total down.
 
The lack of intent was very strange.

As far as I aware that there is no such thing as a draw in a ODI. It seemed like Dhoni was playing fora draw and had no intention to chase the total down.

They are just not good enough. Will crash in the semis. Even the Kohli - Sharma partnership was way too slow. They left too much.

PAK vs New Zealand final.
 
..... then again, it was all cooked to keep us out of Semis !!!!!!!
Yes Indian team is scares to face the might Pakistani team who haven’t managed to beat them once in the world cup ever.
They must be dreading so thought they’ll make it easy for themselves bu deliberately loaing so they don’t have to face the might of Pakistan team.
Good long term thinking by team India.

I hope they also think about getting rid of Dhoni and Jadhav... maybe someone can get both these clowns injured... than India might be allowed a replacement.
 
The fact is that India scored over 300 with very little urgency for over half of their innings. If they had wanted to they could have chased this total down with overs to spare.
 
You mean how Pakistan won from an improbable position? That is exactly the Pakistan team to be afraid of. If your English team reaches the KO stages, they'll get crushed yet again.

Improbable position? You are the type of person who will find a silver lining on doomsday.

Pakistan botched a straightforward chase and started to bat like clowns as soon as the ball started to turn a little. The fact that we had to rely on their awful fielding to win brutally exposed our frailties. It was a pathetic performance and proved that we don’t deserve to qualify for the semifinals.
 
Yes we saw that against Afghanistan.

So did England and South Africa. Not long ago, India did the same on Champion Trophy final. England is easy peachy for India as opposed to red form Pakistan. It is smart move from Kohli. :D
 
Dhoni cant bat, field & even his review calls are not reliable anymore - Kohli should drop him immediately
 
I thought India chased it really well until the 40th over. But once Pandya got out, they just gave up. From that point on, they had no interest in winning.
 
Same old story of Dhoni. A terrible finisher and cannot hit big until the 50th over.

I would prefer to lose fighting and swinging rather rather than play like a coward.

Utterly shameful batting display from Dhoni and Jadhav.

We have to question the role of Jadhav in the team. He cannot bat or bowl and his fielding is 3rd class.

In high scoring matches, Dhoni, Jadav are a big liability.

Time for KL Rahul to be dropped permanently. The guy was doing okay at no.4. But he is clearly not an opener.

India needs some wholesale changes after WC.
 
I thought India chased it really well until the 40th over. But once Pandya got out, they just gave up. From that point on, they had no interest in winning.


Pandya and Pant gave me some hope. Once Pandya got out, it was all over. None of the incoming batsmen wanted to win. They played like cowards.

You cannot be shutting down the shop when you are only 5 down and still 6 overs to go. This is as cowardly as it gets.
 
Would have understood had India fallen short by 20 runs losing 8 or 9 wickets. Losing 5 wickets yet not even trying in the last five overs just doesn't make sense.
 
Nasser is being a drama queen. When Pandya got out there were 71 runs required from 31 balls, a RRR of over 14.

It would have required a strike rate of over 230 to win. It is hardly surprising that the remaining two batsmen played out the 5 overs without trying. It is not as if Dhoni is the Dhoni of old, he is much slower now.

I have seen numerous ODI games in which the batsmen in such situations give up. It is not as if this was a knockout game for India that they would be desperate to win. Might as well get batting practice for 5 overs rather than swinging the bat wildly for a 0.01% chance that a win may happen.
 
I apologize to Pakistan fans that they had to witness a cowardly, gutless innings was Dhoni which totally killed any momentum we had towards reaching the target. For us Indian fans, its normal to see Dhoni play this way but i am sure Pak fans would feel it was deliberate lack of intent. I felt same way after Misbah 2011 mohali innings. India were in the match when Pandya was on crease. Later, England choked his run flow by bowling him length bowls outside off stump and fortifying the long off and midwicket region. Since, Pandya doesnt play scoops or square of the wicket, he holed out to deep mid on. I think match was over by then. Dhoni uncle is way past his expiry date. He is still in the team just because of his political/media connections. I hope Pak makes to semi finals. It is still a possibility.

What??? Since when do India team fans have to apologize to Pakistan fans if India lost to any team? I don't get it.

Had you loaned out Dhoni to play for team Pakistan and he ended up causing them to lose their match, I can understand your eagerness to apologize to Pakistan fans
 
Horrendous performance by Dhoni and Jadhav. It was just strange to watch. India may have already lost the match but with wickets in hand towards the back end you expect your batsmen to go after the bowlers rather than knocking them around for singles
 
Horrendous performance by Dhoni and Jadhav. It was just strange to watch. India may have already lost the match but with wickets in hand towards the back end you expect your batsmen to go after the bowlers rather than knocking them around for singles

Totally agree. Dhoni and Jadhav were like deer caught in the headlights. The Indian team was stunned into inaction by the sudden prospect of losing a WC match after having an unchallenged run so far.

This point on the momentum and fan expectations of India team have come down. A reality check if there was any.

The fact is that the ENG team totally outplayed India. Sad day as a IND team fan.
 
Totally agree. Dhoni and Jadhav were like deer caught in the headlights. The Indian team was stunned into inaction by the sudden prospect of losing a WC match after having an unchallenged run so far.

This point on the momentum and fan expectations of India team have come down. A reality check if there was any.

The fact is that the ENG team totally outplayed India. Sad day as a IND team fan.

I noticed how fans were started leaving the stadium before the game had even finished. They were clearly disappointed with what they were seeing.
 
Very disappointing performance this. Quite unprofessional really. Slap in the face of the fans who paid thousands to travel a long way to watch this match.
 
Horrendous performance by Dhoni and Jadhav. It was just strange to watch. India may have already lost the match but with wickets in hand towards the back end you expect your batsmen to go after the bowlers rather than knocking them around for singles

Totally agree. Dhoni and Jadhav were like deer caught in the headlights. The Indian team was stunned into inaction by the sudden prospect of losing a WC match after having an unchallenged run so far.

This point on the momentum and fan expectations of India team have come down. A reality check if there was any.

The fact is that the ENG team totally outplayed India. Sad day as a IND team fan.

Dhoni scored 42* at S/R 135. It was a very good performance, unfortunately he could not turn into Superman and score 80* at S/R 270 to help Pakistan qualify for the semis.

There were no "5 wickets left". The 4 batsmen yet to play are the worst last 4 of any team and it wasn't as if Dhoni and Jhadav were wasting balls that Chahal and Bumrah would hit for sixes.

I noticed how fans were started leaving the stadium before the game had even finished. They were clearly disappointed with what they were seeing.

It is natural for many fans to leave when they believe that the outcome of a game has been decided. It is not particularly about Dhoni and Jhadav.
 
Very disappointing performance this. Quite unprofessional really. Slap in the face of the fans who paid thousands to travel a long way to watch this match.
Now pause and think of all the Pakistan fans who had come to watch the opening game, expecting it to be a cakewalk for their team but instead watched their team getting drubbed by the Windies. It must have felt much worse than a slap
 
Now pause and think of all the Pakistan fans who had come to watch the opening game, expecting it to be a cakewalk for their team but instead watched their team getting drubbed by the Windies. It must have felt much worse than a slap

However they did feel great when Pak beat England, something your team couldn't manage. What a slap on the face.
 
However they did feel great when Pak beat England, something your team couldn't manage. What a slap on the face.
With all the whining going on by a section of the Pak fans, since India lost yday, its hard to believe how they felt. Seems more like dejected
 
With all the whining going on by a section of the Pak fans, since India lost yday, its hard to believe how they felt. Seems more like dejected

No we are very happy because watching India lose is always enjoyable. We beat two teams England and New Zealand which your team couldn't manage. We are still in the WC you can now go back to the cave you crawled out of.
 
The lack of intent was very strange.

As far as I aware that there is no such thing as a draw in a ODI. It seemed like Dhoni was playing fora draw and had no intention to chase the total down.
True.

He even left alone the first ball he received a la test cricket style, was an absolutely harmless delivery! As if it is a sin to score runs on first ball you face!
 
Same old story of Dhoni. A terrible finisher and cannot hit big until the 50th over.

I would prefer to lose fighting and swinging rather rather than play like a coward.

Utterly shameful batting display from Dhoni and Jadhav.

We have to question the role of Jadhav in the team. He cannot bat or bowl and his fielding is 3rd class.

In high scoring matches, Dhoni, Jadav are a big liability.

Time for KL Rahul to be dropped permanently. The guy was doing okay at no.4. But he is clearly not an opener.

India needs some wholesale changes after WC.
And to think this Rahul guy felt entitled enough to open or and not bat in the middle order at all!
 
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